Nuclear Expert: World’s food chain being compromised by radioactive substances from Fukushima Daiichi? Levels “unexpectedly high” in California bluefin tuna (AUDIO)

Published: July 15th, 2012 at 2:33 pm ET


Interview with Robert Alvarez
June 7, 2012

At 32:00 in

What we’re finding is that the aquatic life, especially the fish at the top of food chain like bluefin tuna, are definitely taking this radioactive material up and carrying over very long distances across the ocean. At levels that are, in my opinion, unexpectedly high.

At 35:00 in

It really has to do with whether or not, this to me is a signal, even though there are low levels of radioactivity from Japan, could be a signal that the world’s food chain is being compromised.

Robert Alvarez, an Institute for Policy Studies senior scholar, served as senior policy adviser to the Energy Department’s secretary and deputy assistant secretary for national security and the environment from 1993 to 1999.

Published: July 15th, 2012 at 2:33 pm ET


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41 comments to Nuclear Expert: World’s food chain being compromised by radioactive substances from Fukushima Daiichi? Levels “unexpectedly high” in California bluefin tuna (AUDIO)

  • Max1 Max1

    Not, "could be a signal…"
    … This IS a signal.

  • norbu norbu

    The light's have been going off since 3-11, major signal, the food chain is in trouble, might be to late.

  • bleep_hits_blades

    Geeze, you have to wonder what dream world these 'experts' have been living in… 3 meltdowns, with hundreds of different kinds of rads released at hundreds or thousands of magnitudes greater than Hiroshima, etc…. and they are 'surprised' and 'puzzled' and etc. etc. etc.? at these shockingly high levels of contamination?

    The sun sets, and they're astounded? Damn! Who turned out the fuckin' lights? It rains, and damndest thing if they don't get wet… I mean, will wonders never cease…

    To paraphrase Churchill (who was no angel himself) – there are liars, damned liars… and 'experts.'

  • or-well


    Well the Eastcoast girls are catscanned
    and I dig girls with no hair,
    the southern girls with their thyroid scars
    radiate me when I'm there,
    the midwest farmers' daughters reveal dairy is a fright
    and the northern girls who must stay inside
    look like ghosts both day and night.
    I wish "they" hadn't "done" California
    I wish they'd used the sun, California
    I wish there were still some California girls.
    The westcoast could've gone solar
    used public transport, tide and wind,
    too bad about the French nuke tests in the South Pacif
    and that ship sunk in New Zealand
    Just go around this great big world
    and test what radiation's done
    then come back home to where you're from
    and try and get nuke plants shut down.

    Another old song adaptation.

    • norbu norbu

      You rock!

    • Sickputer

      +311 orwell… Your best work so far

    • richard richard

      there'll always be a Rainbow Warrior.

      It's all one big Pacific, Rainbow Warrior, California Girls, Fukushima and Bondi Beach.

      "Portuguese crew member, Fernando Pereira, was killed in the explosions."

      I always like your work or-well.

      Excuse me for remembering the Rainbow Warrior here, but I felt it's worth the extension.

      Unsaid words placed here….

      • or-well

        Richard, that is the ship and incident (state sanctioned murder) I was referencing.
        I'm glad you took the time to specify, for I'm sure some viewing had no idea.

        • richard richard

          Thanks or-well.

          I particularly want to recall Mr Fernando Pereira here. He has died at the hands of the nuke industry while supporting activists who put their bodies into their beliefs. The cause we all share here, to stop nukes.

          We need to think about getting more involved. I'm trying, I'm not great at it and I've been lax before, but this time around I don't see a way out until nukes are stopped.

          That upcoming events thread should be one of the busiest on this site.

    • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

      wowzer, what a zinger

  • norbu norbu

    They have made a secret deal with some entity. Why else would they build these [NPP] death plant's? Why would they do nothing? Very sad. Its time to get up stand up don't give up your right's!

  • weeman

    What about the plankton, what effect is radiation having on it, break that chain and the rest will topple.

    • alasanon

      One good thing is that deep water does serve as a barrier to radioactive damage caused by alpha, beta, and gamma rays, much like a several foot thick layer of solid cement in a nuclear bunker. Water is a good blocker for radioactivity. Although water has that capacity, once the radioactive contamination penetrates and becomes mixed into much of the water…then I guess it's all about the lucky mutations?? 🙁

      • alasanon

        Also, cold-blooded animals (fish, turtles, other reptiles?) have been found not to be nearly as impacted by radioactivity as humans are, so I'm sure many fish populations will carry on. Alligators, for example, do have a thyroid, of sorts–they just don't have the complex metabolism, etc….But, it should make it harder for us warm-blooded types to eat from the seas. 🙁

    • moonshellblue moonshellblue

      Weeman there is an article on Enenews concerning plankton and the amounts of Cesium found but be fore warned it is not good news.

  • norbu norbu

    They will tell us about the plankton in a few year's, "Oh by the way all of the plankton is gone there will be air rationing every other day, you must not breath on the off day's".

    • StPaulScout StPaulScout

      Unless of course you can afford to pay for the 'air every day' pass. Then you can breath freely all the time. The pass can be bought at your local post office for $750,000.00 and we only except cash.

  • Sickputer

    Giant brown seaweed is what food manufacturers use to produce thousands of tons of sodium alginate every year. Sodium alginate is also used in chelation therapy for heavy metal and radiation poisoning. It's also a health food supplement, but hard to find in smaller cities.

    On the Internet it is widely available, but I worry about the origins of the seaweed. It is harvested from sources off Australia, Scotland, and also many Asian coastlines. I have done some research looking for the safest suppliers, but I am still coming up short for most suppliers. I guess a few phone alls may be in order to determine the safest supplies. If anyone in Australia has information please post here or in the combating radiation forum:

  • norbu norbu

    The only seaweed we eat is what we bought a year and a half ago, pre-fuku.

  • Very interesting, MIT releases a study purporting to show that it be better to blast people with radiation

    MIT does not deny that their purpose is to promote nuclear energy. Ego and Denial of the academic "innocents". But indeed, just because one is blinded by their scientific desire to push the edge of the envelope and play god like games of turning matter into energy, does not relieve them of the incredible guilt and responsibility of the predictable damage they cause.

    2 weeks after the study was published, MIT issued a statement concerning a multi-million dollar grant that they were handed by the US government, in order to take the best and brightest in the nation in order to create a propaganda campaign to get the public to buy the nuke lies, hook line and sinker.

    "The nuclear enterprise has long faced difficulties in gaining the broad social acceptance needed for success. Reliance upon public education effort continues to be the main, and largely unsuccessful, tactic to achieve acceptance. This project will develop a model for the social acceptability of nuclear projects."

    And a brilliant Video by Goddard that lays bare the lies of the paid pimps of nuke promotion.

  • cbuchner1

    As far as I know from press reports, 4 Bq / kg of Cesium have been measured in tuna, whereas the safe limit for consumption is set at 100 Bq / kg.

    That's ridiculously low levels. We routinely measure 7000 Bq / kg in wild boar meat in wild boar hunted in Germany, mostly in Bavaria. Any contamination above 600 Bq / kg will cause the meat to be discarded and the hunters to be financially compensated. All because of that Tschernobyl thing which happened about one half life of Cesium ago. It will take a couple more half lives to get back to safe levels. Read this article here:

    Keep measuring the tuna though, the levels could become higher over time.

  • cbuchner1

    an editing feature would be nice, sorry about the "wild boar" duplication in above text.

  • jackassrig

    If this is our intellectual knowledge bank, God help us. MIT is chocked full of insanity. The jury is out on nuclear.

  • reVivre

    Hello – just wanting to leave that the current link to the audio-stream is leading to

    <i>6th of july</i> (Conrad Miller) instead of

    <i>7th of june</i> (Robert Alvarez) and should be:

    small date-turner 😉 greets ~ V

    • ML

      Good link. Thank you. I love what Robert Alvarez says: NRC funded studies are clearly science fiction. This is referring to the MIT studies. If we all collectively laughed at the NRC and MIT might they become a tad bit embarrassed?
      I am reading Richard L. Miller's book: Under the Cloud and find it amazing how much was not known, how much was lied about, and how much was underestimated regarding the contamination from fallout of nuclear testing. The human brain basically put the energy of the sun on earth and "played" with it. The temperatures from these activities were enormous.

      I would like to call attention to a great blog, attesting to global warming stemming from nuclear activities.
      At the end of the blog, DJ Paul Edge wonders about the increase of ocean water temperatures around Japan. "I did notice in my much searching, that in 2006 sea surface temperatures around Japan have risen as much as three times the world average over the past century , the cause they attribute it to was of course Global Warming." He attributes it to the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I believe there is a better explanation.
      Well, it wouldn't surprise me to learn that it was all those nuclear reactors in Japan "dumping" into the ocean before the tsunami. And now it can only be worse.

      • richard richard

        Thanks ML for the Doctors link, in my opinion he certainly seems to be onto something.

        I've mentioned before, I reckon nukes are causing climate change, so I can only agree with the doc.

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    The few crazy people that still believe in this failed technology are ruining our world.

  • PhilipUpNorth philipupnorth

    About Radiation:
    It isn't one breath that causes the damage, but all the breaths.
    It isn't one glass of water that causes the damage, but all the glasses.
    It isn't one bite of food that causes the damage, but all the food.
    It isn't one hotparticle that causes the damage, but all the hotparticles.
    It isn't one day that causes the damage, but all the days.
    It isn't one isotope that causes the damage, it's all the isotopes.
    No nukes. Not now, not ever. Unload the reactors now.
    We can live without nuclear power.
    But with nuclear power…not so much…

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Bleep, sadly they are all brain dead, for sure.

    We have about 1000 "mini suns" operating all over the surface of our planet and some of us wonder why its getting warm or why the ocean waters around or downstream from these "mini suns" have increased in temperature?

    The tiny island of Japan has 54 of these "mini suns" that they are trying to cool down with those same warming waters.

    Last time I checked, we do not live on the sun's surface.

    • richard richard

      hi obewanspeaks – i believe this is exactly what's contributing to climate change. And yet again, it's covered up with alternate distractions… look.. there goes the ball! It's called carbon emissions or cow farts or anything but the gagaguzillion terrawatts of energy pouring out from these abominations.

      Thanks for the reminder.

  • petfish


    Read ENENEWS everyday. Just received the 2011 Water Quality Report,
    County of Maui MAKAWAO SYSTEM (drinking water). The line of interest reads:

    Radiologicals, Beta particles 4.1 pCi/L. Referenced: EPA considers 50pCi/L to be the level of concern for beta particles.

    Question: Did the EPA recently raise the limit for drinking water from 3pCi/L over a 70 year period or did they just change the parameters a bit?

    Thank you in advance


    • arclight arclight

      hi pet fish

      i cant answer your question as accurately as some here.. so i wont..

      that is a good question… if you sont get an answer here maybe repost on the general forum for nuclear issues.. in fact also, post on a thread people are currently posting on..

      when you get your answer could you post it on the radiation monitoring thread? could be a useful bit of info.. i think you could check out majias blog and maybe agreenroad and the other posters that have there own web blogs.. cant remember who was discussing it… 🙁

      welcome aboard!

      • petfish

        Thank you arclight,

        I went to the EPA web site and found a doc. forgot which one? using the search: radionuclides allowable limits in drinking water.

        found a table pg 37 (better with numbers) says that 50 pCi/L of beta particles is of concern and one one should drink it over a long period. talks about alpha, gamma limits. but im sure i saw a number at 3pCi/L back 2011 when Hawaii posted their milk results (Hilo) and Alexander Higgins blog mentioned 6oo% for alpha? or beta? (cant remember) above EPA limits. The discussion around that subject gave me the idea that the MCL was 3pCi/L over a seventy year period. guess i should do my own research.
        Anyway i dont like what the report reports. Going to look back at older testing results to see if beta particles were tested pre-fukushima.
        Aloha and keep smiling.

    • richard richard

      @petfish – majia has started to answer your duplicate post over here …

      • petfish

        thank you richard. maybe that news article was mistaken or i just read the wrong doc. w.r.t. intent? guess have to look at when the doc was made? and if so can the EPA change the original – though this would not make since because someone else would have a copy.

  • kaybee1

    ~70 years of nuclear technology and look at what we've accomplished. Sickening. These 'scientists' are absolute fools. Mankind will be extinct within a couple generations. There's just no two ways about it.

  • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

    Radiation dangers in food and water; via A Green Road Blog

    Radiation Safety Standards for Food: Comparing Chernobyl vs Fukushima; via A Green Road Blog