Nuclear Experts: Fukushima Unit 4 has shown signs of collapsing — Underneath buildings it’s becoming saturated — “Known fractures in soil” — Large structure already went down at plant after ground was super-saturated and had mudslide in March 2011 (PHOTO & VIDEO)

Published: September 25th, 2013 at 3:14 pm ET
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Tepco’s video tour of Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, Sept. 2013 (At 1:00 in) – The power line tower of units 5 & 6 fell over due to a collapse of the embankment. Consequently, the whole site lost its outside power source. 20-minute video here

WERU’s News Report interviews Dean Wilkie, nuclear reactor operations at a U.S. Department of Energy test reactor in Idaho (At 28:50 in) – When the accident happened back in March 2011 there was a power pole, one of these huge power poles, inside of the Daiichi facility, inside the area there, and the ground that it was set on became super-saturated with water and they had a mud slide and that whole tower went down […] At Fukushima now, what we’re seeing, all of this work that they’ve been doing with these walls and then it’s causing the water to back up, it’s starting to saturate soil that’s underneath the buildings and in adjacent areas around the buildings. Couple that with the fact that there are known fractures in that soil — it was very obvious during the earthquake.  Full broadcast here

Nuclear Expert Gordon Edwards interview on the Green Power Wellness Show (At 32:00 in) – The worry with Unit No. 4, even though there was no fuel in the core of the reactor, there’s a spent fuel pool very precariously perched up above 5 floors. If the plant were to collapse — which it’s been showing signs of doing — then that fuel would be all over the place and it would be impossible to cool. And that would be a real… you could get far greater emissions than we did initially. Full interview here

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  • pkjn

    Fukushima Daiichi Leaked 43.8 Terabecquerels To The Sea In Last 2 Years
    September 23rd, 2013 SimplyInfo
    60 GBq of Cs137 & Sr90 directly go out to ocean outside of the Fukushima Daiichi port daily
    It also does not include other isotopes such as cesium 134, tritium, radioactive silver, cobalt 60, ruthenium, plutonium or the many other substances known to have been leaking out of the plant.
    These daily leaks to the sea may explain why contamination in fish has not gone down.
    http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/?p=11467
    http://www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/Meetings/PDFplus/2013/cn207/Presentations/1028-Aoyama.pdf

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      heres the scary part; its only one sixth thousandths the release from atmospheric bomb tests

      • Time Is Short Time Is Short

        There have been 2,108 nuclear bomb tests to date:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_tests

        “The uranium bomb which the United States dropped on Hiroshima at the end of World War II released 89 tera becquerels. It killed 140,000 people – many instantly, others within weeks of the blast as they succumbed to severe radiation burns.”

        http://voices.yahoo.com/fukushimas-nuclear-disaster-radiation-released-was-9025493.html

        “A recent study was prepared for Greenpeace Germany by international nuclear safety expert Dr. Helmut Hirsch. Dr. Hirsch’s assessment, based on data published by the French government’s radiation protection agency (IRSN) and the Austrian government’s Central Institute for Meteorology and Geodynamics (ZAMG) found that the total amount of unstable radionuclides Iodine-131 and Caesium-137 released between March 11 and March 23 has been so high that the Fukushima crisis already equates to three INES 7 incidents.

        Release of radiation from the stricken reactors has reached 10,000 teraBequerels (10,000 trillion Bequerels) per hour, measured for radioactive Iodine-131.”

        http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24292

        Using the Greenpeace numbers – 10,000 terabecquerels per hour. (That's 10,000 trillion becquerels, or 10 petabecquerels per hour)

        The Hiroshima bomb was 89 terabecquerels of radiation.
        10,000 divided by 89 is 112.36. That's equivalent to 112.36 Hiroshima nuclear bombs worth of radiation released per hour.

        • Time Is Short Time Is Short

          With 2,108 nuclear tests, that is no more than 18.77, or 19 hours of radiation release from Fukushima.

          Say the bombs used in the tests were 20x the Hiroshima bomb. That is still only 375.4 hours of release from Fukushima, or roughly 15.65 days – half a month, or up through 3/26/2011.

          And this will be on-going for billions of years, and the cores and site contaminant will continue to increase in radioactivity for hundreds of thousands of years.

          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            how much radiation released? OK, disregarding the plutonium and other super toxic radiological releases for which there is little info, it would at least be good to get in the ballpark, using existing data. If we are already at 2.5 million bombs, this should reflect in measurements, right?

            here are some links

            fukushima released Cs137
            direct discharge 3.6 PBq
            Atmospheric 12-15 PBq
            land 2 – 3 PBq
            700PBq in the three cores
            140 PBq in stagnant water

            atmospheric tests 290 PBq
            http://www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/Meetings/PDFplus/2013/cn207/Presentations/1028-Aoyama.pdf
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            Harwell Radiation Laboratory in England demonstrate the airborne radiation in Japan is 1,000 times higher than radioactive “fallout” at the peak in 1963 of H-Bomb detonations by the nuclear powers
            http://www.shoah.org.uk/2011/08/02/fukushima-radiation-1000-times-h-bomb-peak/
            ================

            http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/?p=11467
            Fukushima Daiichi Leaked 43.8 Terabecquerels To The Sea In Last 2 Years
            ====================

            According to JNES’s report “Severe Accident Analyses of Fukushima-Daiich Units 1 to 3? published on IAEA general conference of 9/17/2012, Central research institute of electric power industry evaluated the amount of releases of radioactive material (I-131, Cs-134/137) to Pacific ocean.

            Their analysis shows 1.1 ten quadrillion Bq of Iodine-131 and 7.1 thousand trillion Bq of Cs-134/137 were released to Pacific ocean from March.26 to…

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              In this study, the emissions Cs-137, I-131 and Xe-133 are investigated. Regarding Xe-133, the total release is estimated to be of the order of 6 × 1018 Bq emitted during the explosions of units 1, 2 and 3. The total source term estimated gives a fraction of core inventory of about 8 × 1018 Bq at the time of reactors shutdown. This result suggests that at least 80 % of the core inventory has been released into the atmosphere and indicates a broad meltdown of reactor cores. Total atmospheric releases of Cs-137 and I-131 aerosols are estimated to be 1016 and 1017 Bq, respectively. By neglecting gas/particulate conversion phenomena, the total release of I-131 (gas + aerosol) could be estimated to be 4 × 1017 Bq.

              http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00024-012-0578-1?no-access=true

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              The TEPCO engineers believed that 0.601 EXA-bequerels of Noble gasses were released on March 12, 2011.

              ===========

              On Wednesday, TEPCO released revised estimates of the amount of radiation leaked from Fukushima.
              A short video showing the Hiroshima bombing which released 89 tera becquerels of cesium radiation over Japan. Fukushima is now estimated to have released 360,000 tera becquerels of cesium which is equal to 4,023 Hiroshima bombs.
              The estimate is also more than 4 times Chernobyl which is estimated to have released 85,000 tera becquerels of cesium radiation into atmosphere.

              • Time Is Short Time Is Short

                Or in plain terms:

                'Fukushima Equals 3,000 Billion Lethal Doses'

                “Dr Paolo Scampa, a widely know EU Physicist, single handedly popularized the easily understood Lethal Doses concept. “Lethal Doses” is a world wide, well understood idea that strips Physics bare and offers a brilliant, understandable explanation for all the physics gobbledygook Intelligence agencies and their respective governments use to disguise the brutal truths of the Fukushima Daiichi Disaster."

                "Three thousand billion (3,000,000,000,000) Lethal Doses of Radiation means there are 429 Lethal Doses chasing each and every one of us on the planet, to put it in a nutshell. This is up from about 70 Billion Lethal Doses March 23, 2011. It is getting worse everyday without any intervention by the US and the other nuclear powers….”

                "Note that the lethality of radioactive reactor cores goes up the first 250,000 years they are out of the reactor – not down."

                http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/05/28/fukushima-how-many-chernobyls-is-it/

                • hbjon hbjon

                  Well, ok. Let's say the thing spills its contents and the volatilized toxins cook off and drift eastbound. Perhaps your one of the unlucky ones that didn't run like the wind for the southern hemisphere. Maybe you live in a valley where the air like to stagnate and mix with smog from the big cities. A massive dose can accumulate in ditches, sewers, and gopher holes. If the gophers all die and you start to feel a bit fatigued with shortness of breath and a drain full of hair remember one thing. Drink plenty of pure water and stay away from the doctors office as they don't have a cure for you.

                  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

                    Medical advice from a non-doctor? That actually is illegal:

                    "If the gophers all die and you start to feel a bit fatigued with shortness of breath and a drain full of hair remember one thing. Drink plenty of pure water and stay away from the doctors office as they don't have a cure for you."

                    Your "diagnosis" may be all wrong. Various symptoms have differing causes. Your doctor may be able to help you. Don't ever give up.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

                      Fatigue and Shortness of breath
                      “WebMD Symptom Checker helps you find the most common medical conditions indicated by the symptoms fatigue and shortness of breath including Heart rhythm disorder, Anemia, and Medication reaction or side-effect.
                      “There are 117 conditions associated with fatigue and shortness of breath. The links below will provide you with more detailed information on these medical conditions from the WebMD Symptom Checker and help provide a better understanding of causes and treatment of these related conditions….”
                      http://symptomchecker.webmd.com/multiple-symptoms?symptoms=fatigue|shortness-of-breath&symptomids=98|204&locations=66|14

                    • hbjon hbjon

                      It's only illegal in Nazi Germany. My Master is the one who informs me on what directions to take for good health. Have you ever seen a doctor smoke cigs? Eat greasy cheeseburgers? I suppose your gonna tell me that chemo cures cancer? Does radiation cure cancer too? (to date, the only medical answers). You go ahead Anne and run to the doctor, I'll catch up to you. I can use the only benefit they offer. Pain killers.

                    • hbjon hbjon

                      Anne, you said that fatigue and shortness of breath can be caused by the doctors prescription. If one stayed away from the doctors office, one wouldn't have the symptoms of a bad chemical reaction caused by their masters hokus pokus. Doctors actually advised patients to gargle and rinse their mouths out with bleach during the flu pandemic of 1918. I care for people with no profit motive and have survival of all as my goal. Most Americans are too strong to go crying to the doctor anyway so it was a mute point.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

                      hbjon, I quote you: "Anne, you said that fatigue and shortness of breath can be caused by the doctors prescription." I never said that. And there are many different doctors. They have different specialities, qualifications, etc. Telling someone not to go to a doctor is ridiculous. Hair can fall out because of a chemical release. Gophers can die because of a chemical also. If there is a nuclear accident, a doctor can prescribe potassium iodine.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

                      hbjon, if we are being personal, I haven't been to a doctor in 7 years, and take no medicine. And I certainly take no drugs legal or illegal. I am 72 years old. However, when I was dying of cancer 24 years ago, and because totally disabled I went to 50 different doctors and I learned something from each of these doctors.

                      However, I do not prescribe to anyone else as to what they should do. Health care is a personal decision. And I have no formal medical training. And I certainly wouldn't choose to go to you for medical advice. "Nothing to fear, but fear itself" is not my motto as it is yours. Smile all you want, but if you are exposed to enough environmental carcinogens, in the long run smiling won't keep you from dying. Surely you are not expecting to live forever.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

                      because = became

                    • hbjon hbjon

                      Healthcare in society should not be a personal thing, and it should be public. With full disclosure and transparency so that doctors don't pour bleach down your throat to cure you of pneumonia. I can fill this thread full of the facts that help me form my system of beliefs, but I have to move on. In parting, let me say that Americans are too strong to go crying to the doctor about their health problems.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

                      I guess I meant healthcare should be a personal choice. Of course, most people don't have enough money to go to a doctor or to an alternative healer (many of whom also make mistakes). There are so many different health problems, generalizations can tend to be futile.

                  • soern

                    @hbjon:
                    you wrote:"It's only illegal in Nazi Germany"

                    We are not Nazi Germany, sorry for you to seem to be out of date. Last Sunday we had Goverment elections and there was no Nazi Party mentioned to be of interest nor becoming member of parliament at all!

                    Also you are totally wrong – it is legal to go to an alternative healer as you want in Germany.

                    Go to your Master and let you tell more BS.
                    Maybe you think world is about 6000 Years old too?

                    • hbjon hbjon

                      It's my understanding that Nazi Germany forced healthcare in the form of hydrocyanic acid upon millions of incarcerated people back in the not-so-distant past. How is it that you were not part of that healthcare experiment? I'm not singling you or anybody out, I just wonder how some people were spared and others weren't. Was it a special salute or handshake?

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

                      Nazi Germany came to an end in 1945, almost 70 years ago. Do you have a link for your assertion?

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

                      Oh, you are talking about ZyklonB in the concentration camps. To insinuate that someone is now 100 years old and used to be a Nazi in 1940 seems rude and far-fetched.

                      I hope someone doesn't hold me responsible for all the depleted uranium used by the US someday, and all the other medical experiments that I don't and have never supported. I am certainly not giving a special salute or a special handshake.

                      I hope I won't be held responsible for all the nuclear accidents in the US and around the world.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

                      I hope I won't be held responsible for Fukushima Daiichi. But humans are capable of any behavior, and many innocent people have been made political prisoners and sacrificed in the history of the world.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

                      hbjon, so now you are equating healthcare to the concentration gas ovens in Germany? Good luck with your life.

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      I understand exactly what Hbjon is trying to say and its in between the words/lines and in many ways he is correct.

                      There have been many horrible things done to humans in the name of science and medicine. Maybe this is/was suppose to be considered a form of intellectual progress in our recent past. Examples that he could conjure up would state otherwise.

                      Medical science is a big business and no different from cleaning toilets for a living and/or any other business. People are sold garbage/unneeded treatments by most of them and many are now dying from such sales/tactics.

                      That being said, it is what it is, and all people visiting any doctor must research what they are told, and then if not, they get what they are being told/sold.

                      We are all responsible for our own health through good practice. Yet when you have a Civil Authority that approves the poisoning of its own population via its written laws, then it does become their sole expense to correct the damages they have done too those they have negatively affected.

                      I have not been to a doctor 15 years and that is a personal choice since the last time I found out there was nothing they could do/cure for what ails me..

                      Yes, they are making strides in some areas and they have helped millions have/live better lives, but once again they have also created just as many problems.

                    • soern

                      Thx Anne!
                      @hbjon:
                      If you want discuss ancient history, go to a history forum!
                      Dont mix modern times and history here. It is bad enough to live as a German with that bad history even now. If you are from USA you have a similar bad history too!
                      Neither you nor me are responsible for bad things our Fathers and Mothers did!
                      There have been very bad things all over the world since ancient times of course – but would you condemn Italians for having had a Nero in former times NOW?
                      @Obe:
                      I simply dont like reading between lines while beeing blamed for beeing member of some nation which did bad things in former times which i could not stop as i was not born at that time.
                      Als the whole discussion is off topic since hbjon second comment.

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Not ancient history by any stretch of the imagination and no he should not be picking on you or anyone else here, since we all have tons of historical baggage to drag around with us daily…

                      Yet, recognizing the past which by the way was yesterday may give us hope for a better today and tomorrow.

                      Many feel pain for what others have done to others and we must all work through this envisioned in our brain pain..

                      We all now have an opportunity to learn very quickly from all our ancestors past mistakes..

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      death from iatrogenic causes is listed as 225,000 per year. Mainstream medicine is highly educated, yet rely on pharmaceuticals which are approximately 50,000 times more toxic than herbs with often slim advantage over placebo, …surgery and radiation. Cure rate for cancer is politically skewed and questionable. Codex alimentarius was said to have placed herbal and orthomolecular medicine in drug category in Germany, yet it appears they have excellent herbal therapy continuing. Dont know for sure, but the preceding arguments seems symptomatic of lack of communication rather than substantive

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      my take is that hbjon was decrying the control, leverage and often ineffective methods of "mainstream" medicine, but unfortunately equated it with the extreme case during Nazi era. The battle to overcome illness is arduous. We can take information or even treatment from mainstream medicine, while realizing their focus is on symptom suppression, not health building. Clean food and water, herbs and exercise form the basis for health, which no doctor will provide. Now we can add reducing exposure to radionuclides. I dont see a fundamental reason for this argument

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

                      She said, don't go to a doctor because there is no cure. That statement is much too general, IMHO.

                    • hbjon hbjon

                      Anne, thank you for the sincere good luck wishes. Back at you. There is a fundamental reason for this discussion and it is to help people.
                      Kidney, liver, heart, respiratory, and other systems within the body can fail. Their failures are not from lack of medicine. A sunburn will heal on its own without intervention. Repetitive damage to any groups of cells from radiation will cause irreversible and permanent harm to your biology.
                      My guess is that radiation will be sensed and people will try to remove themselves from affected areas. Now, I am not a doctor as anne was so quick to point out. I am a dump truck driver and philosopher. I can only make suggestions to myself and remind people that they own their bodies. They have the power to run like the wind when a threat is upon them. You cannot fight this invisible enemy that blows in the wind.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

                      hbjon, I think there are a lot of things a person can do, including moving to a safer place. They are listed in the forum on methods to fight radiation. Even if one were to go to a doctor, that person can take a proactive stance on what treatment and tests s/he will accept, and those s/he will not.

                      One can also prolong life with prayer and the support from a loving community. This has been proven. And there are many books that can be read, and there are many different kinds of doctors in the US and many different kinds of food stores.

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Currently based on past practice we humans are now all "guinea pigs" whether we like it or not…

                      Radiation contamination will keep us this way as "guinea pigs" for thousands of years into the foreseeable future.

                      It Nuclear Power Technology as with other energy sources was/were a huge mistake and yes we are in the process of slowly correcting it for future generations and that is one reason why we are all here.

                      Can anyone with any confidence say there is such a thing as an organic product anymore? Maybe, maybe not, based on the "not of this earth" Radioactive Isotopes spewing all over this planet. Everyone is now throwing the dice..

                      For every step we take there also seems to be quite the mess we all like to make. It is what it is and let's hope smarter people take charge and that we all stop chasing the money around the planet..

                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  TIS, the quote of 3000 billion lethal doses from Scampa is a good one. How many lethal doses were released from nuclear bomb testing? Note that in no way am I trying to down or upgrade Fukushima as a disaster. Simply this; the Nuke testing, which probably raised the cancer rate to +- 50% and caused a cascade of sickness and death with unknown consequence, yet didnt immediately decimate the population, gives us great comparative value, and also possible insight into how the power players may be thinking

                  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                    Yes, and as people die from cancer more people are born and the eugenics programs continues to move forward.

                    Biggest problem now is low sperm counts and dropping population numbers across the globe and why we still do not close our borders as our nation's civilization and others are now retreating or dying!

                    This is what happens when you poison your own populations!

                    All 7 billion living on this planet can live inside Texas with 1000 sq ft each..

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      that population argument about texas is misleading. If you look into it, there are way too many people on this earth which has a diameter of only 8000 miles. Try calculating how far mankind would stretch if lined up holding hands.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      this article didnt really say anything except how absurd Sierra Clubs density projection is. The truth is that animal species are going extinct at an alarming rate because of humans. The world is being polluted at an alarming, alread over the top level because of too many humans. All the nice place…dont know if you noticed…but they are PACKED FULL of humans. You folks might think thats good, but its not for me. No way

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Correct and we have not even touched 70% of the world's surface water as potential solutions. The entire to many people argument is if we trash via pollution, radiation contamination etc. all the/our world's resources, then of course we will be/are over populated..
                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw6Z0TmmPjI

                      Stop trashing the Earth's wealth of resources for future generations!

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      obe, the sea is for sea animals, who would dream of encroaching? The argument that there are too many people is more than the poor use of resources. Even if we were totally solar, there are too many people on the beach, in the parks, in the cities, in India, China, you name it. People are everywhere you go, whats good about it, exactly? Good for the wolves? Elephants? People like me? dolphins? monkeys? Lions? Flowers? Whats so great about a world full of people, I dont get it! Theyre everywhere!

                  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

                    Problem is radiation is accumulative and bioaccumulative. We still have all the radiation from the nuclear bomb testing, and the environment is accumulating more and more radiation exponentially. So also will the disease, immune deficiency, cancer rates, and genetic instability increase exponentially. Every generation will inherit more physical and genetic problems and lowered IQ and lowered judgment, and still have to face even more radiation than the previous generation.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      you speak the sad truth. The world was trashed by the bullies and technocrats. Sci Fi, but nothing good about it

      • We Not They Finally

        CS, I'm not a scientist but I do a lot of reading and your under-calculations look WAY WRONG to me. Consider the sources.

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          WNTF and TIS, so youre confident that the people of the world can come to ENEnews and find 2.5 million bombs worth of radiation released so far and be in the ballpark? …theres measurements around the globe, and they have to match up with that. Some of the sources I link are journal papers, and its pretty hard to argue unless you have better data. And if you are wrong by 2 million bombs, then I think we lose some credibility. So far, Im not at all convinced we are at 2.5 million Hiroshima bombs and counting

          • NoNukes NoNukes

            Truth is not on the side of nuclear.

            If people knew all the facts about how nuclear reactors would destroy their children from emissions on a regular day, and had the power, they never would have let this insanity spread all over the country.

            So, for generations, nuclear has bought up all the politicians, the scientists, the labs, the celebrities, and so on, all to create something they refer to as "credibility."

            Now, credibility is not truth, it is produced in order to hide truth.

            If there is any doubt about this, try to find someone who wants nuclear in their backyard, even with all of the "credible" sources saying it is beneficial.

            Which is more important, credibility or truth?

            "Credibility" gave me thyroid disease at the age of eight, 9 miles from the nuclear plant that my elementary school would take us to visit on field trips.

            I am sick of credibility, I only want truth.

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              nonukes, I follow your point. I think you can see that spouting a number that is way out of the ballpark is not truth and its not credibility either. There is no question nuclear kills and cant be contained. But we are talking Fukushima now, and I dont want to tell my associates theres three billion atomic bombs worth if there is only five thousand. What if the entire population of earth was going to read ENEnews…we would exercise some care. The exposure is upon us

          • We Not They Finally

            I don't know that you're wrong. I just said consider the sources. You had both higher estimates and lower estimates. And it's been outlandishly gushing with no end in sight. It sounded low, that's all. I'm not a scientist.

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        CodeShutdown, how did you arrive at that figure? Can you please provide a citation?

    • A Green Road – Ground Liquefaction At Fukushima Buildings – Groundwater Has Satured All Soil
      http://youtu.be/KvgvSwaLt-A

  • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

    I thought last years headlines were bad. Seems the last three months have brought-on an onslaught of bad-to-worse news…

  • wetpwcas1 wetpwcas1

    OH Crap, more bad news, but we that it was coming! Thee ones who will we surprised will be the MSM!!!!!!!!

  • rnix rnix

    "Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
    Everybody knows that the captain lied
    Everybody got this broken feeling
    Like their father or their dog just died

    Everybody talking to their pockets
    Everybody wants a box of chocolates
    And a long stem rose
    Everybody knows"

    Leonard Cohen

  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

    The power line tower of units 5 & 6 fell over due to a collapse of the embankment
    nuke engineers; "well, noboby could have anticipated that, but lesson learned for future safe nuclear"

    At Fukushima now, what we’re seeing, all of this work that they’ve been doing with these walls and then it’s causing the water to back up
    nuke engineers; "well, noboby could have anticipated that, but lesson learned for future safe nuclear"

    there’s a spent fuel pool very precariously perched up above 5 floors. If the plant were to collapse — which it’s been showing signs of doing
    nuke engineers; "well, noboby could have anticipated that, but lesson learned for future safe nuclear"

    the terrifying outflow of contaminated water pouring through the Fukushima site is a clear and present threat to all living things in the Pacific Ocean and to human life in general
    nuke engineers; "well, noboby could have anticipated that, but lesson learned for future safe nuclear"

  • rnix rnix

    "Well I’m standing by the river
    But the water doesn’t flow
    It boils with every poison you can think of
    And I’m underneath the streetlight
    But the light of joy I know
    Scared beyond belief way down in the shadows
    And the perverted fear of violence
    Chokes the smile on every face
    And common sense is ringing out the bell
    This ain’t no technological breakdown
    Oh no, this is the road to hell

    And all the roads jam up with credit
    And there’s nothing you can do
    It’s all just pieces of paper flying away from you
    Oh look out world, take a good look
    What comes down here
    You must learn this lesson fast and learn it well
    This ain’t no upwardly mobile freeway
    Oh no, this is the road
    Said this is the road
    This is the road to hell"

    Chris Rea

  • Havn't listened to radio broadcast but watched TepGov video. As I have stated before all treatment of water involves mostly cesium removal. TepGov video confirms this. Strontium and other isotopes must be accumulating in coolant water. That is why coolant water eventually gets removed and stored in tanks of 1000 ton capacity. Too much strontium cloggs up machinery. Imagine all that water shaking around during an earthquake. Unclear how they can treat the stored water so it can be safely dumped into the Pacific. That part of the plan isn't mentioned in TepGov video. What is water incineration facility? Do they boil off the water? Or are they incinerating the cesium they are collecting?
    Today is a sunny day. Gotta bounce. Peace.

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Whole world is waiting for it to collapse. And why wouldn't it?

    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      And not a word on Rokkasho. That went silent quickly.

    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      And how about the nuclear fire about to destroy Greater St. Louis and the US midwest? (If it hasn't already started)

      The truth about the Bridgton Landfill fire:

      http://www.moenviron.org/images/West_Lake_Photos_/West%20Lake%20Rept03142013.pdf

      As the EPA continues to refuse to do anything about it, the fire is 1,000 feet away from the illegally dumped nuclear waste. Strange that the fire has been '1,000 feet' away from the illegal nuclear waste for a couple of months now when it used to be described as 'fast moving'. Hmm.

      • We Not They Finally

        I suspect that it's closer, or possibly even there already. Something else that aroused suspicion (though I can't get a confirm) is that the CDC just recently ordered 2.79 million doses of an anti-radiation drug from a corp named Amgen. But by "coincidence," 2.79 is the exact population of greater St. Louis.

        Why order 2.79 million? Round it off to 3 million, or at least 2.8 million. Again, I DON'T KNOW. It just looks strange. Just putting this out there.

  • rnix rnix

    That's all folks…..obi wan kenobi isn't coming….When dealing with this kind of catastrophe "Here be dragons" no one….not even the best physicist knows exactly how this will all end. There are no good outcomes only different degrees of going from really bad to much worse.

    We have a few months so make peace with whatever God you believe in and make preparations for trying to survive. Life will go on….maybe…somewhere in the southern hemisphere….it may not look or exactly be human like we are but maybe that's a good thing….humans like us got us into this so maybe we should go extinct….at least the nuclear physicists who brought us this Prometheus fire should go extinct….Perhaps we were not ready morally for such a gift, perhaps it wasn't theirs to give but we took the stolen goods from them and now we will all have to pay the price.

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    Unit4 looks OK in the new equipment floor photos:
    http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/u4_defueling130925_09.jpg
    Old news?

    • But the building underneath the frame that holds up the crane, how is that doing? That is the park that sank, bulged, cracked and settled. They do not show that part.

      Not enough info, plenty of bull…

    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      I doubt that picture is from Fukushima. It looks like a photo out of a catalog.

      Either way, the entire site is turning liquid. Every building is in danger of collapsing into a twisted pile of rubble. Not a single engineering plan considered the possibility of structural damage of any structure there surviving intact on top of watery mud.

      All they hope for now is that it goes fast and gets swallowed up by the ocean as quickly as possible.

    • We Not They Finally

      PUN, if it was actually "o.k." then they would not even be contemplating the insanely risky task of removing the fuel rods, and likely remotely, since humans can't get near anything that hot.

      Not o.k.

  • rnix rnix

    Sorry Obi but these are the droids we were looking for….Tepco droids Now if we can it's time for us Technomage's to leave for another place before the darkness comes….because it is coming and nothing can stop it now.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjToVZTqCbw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hts8hvB_B2U

  • truthseek truthseek

    The most dreaded headline, afraid to read the blog comments.

    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      "Abandon hope, all ye who enter here" – Dante

      Inscription over the Gate to Hell. Fitting.

      • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

        Wish we made choices never to enter anyway but hey , the road was wide and the flesh weak and addiction strong and ego big and dogma false and opposition laughable and.. stuff..

        • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

          And it seems to be history is a "one way only road".., considering the absence of breaks in our "vehicle" aka "culture" aka "technological progress"..
          And if there are breaks, then they are not working i dare to say..

  • Anthony Anthony

    My instinct is, no matter what the **story Du Jour** is being served about FUKU, we need to not panic for several reasons.

    * SPF fire reported in docs from the get-go tell how its already hit the fan long ago.

    *Like another poster said, they held tours standing about the draped spf4 which from the outside looked odd….. but OBVIOUSLY proved that the danger was not present, arguably in a super dangerous way. Why the hell would they have done that if they couldn't?

    * If an imminent topple was to bring forth a ravishing devastation you can bet your very ass they would be evacuating the plant and the area in droves. They are not. Because there is no big danger.

    Usually in my postulations I often wish to be wrong. This time I hope and think my intuition is right.

    • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

      I gave up on hoping to be wrong.. but i hope YOU are right !

    • We Not They Finally

      I honestly haven't seen ANYTHING about that site that does not look dangerous. Even that the picture of SFP4 showed it "draped" makes no sense. What kind of a "drape"? That would not protect anyone from anything, so if there, it was there for another reason. Or a photo of a different part of the site?

      What they are contemplating, the removal of the fuel rods, is INSANE. So they must think that the danger of NOT doing it might be even worse.

      • Anthony Anthony

        The circus tents, the photo-shopping…clues everywhere that it is and hasn't been what has been told. Thats why I literally refuse to allow it to destroy my mind or heart and personal peace. For the first six months I even avoided being rained on and I live in BC so that's saying something! At this stage, I am free of it in a sense, it hasn't been easy, but I just refuse to let such lying ass LIARS ruin my life or my life direction. We have to have a clear head to testify later. You are so right, if they COULD have done something constructive and proactive it surely needed to be done EARLIER while they actually could get it done. They have dilly dallied and completely saturated the grounds (WHY WHY WHY) under completely already precarious reactors and they now seem to be in a call to action when the rads are too heavy to navigate? You could drive yourself crazy trying to fathom such complete dysfunction and disarray.

      • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

        Wouldn't such a drape protect the people standing around SFP4 from alpha and beta radiation coming off the surface of the pool?

  • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

    I keep getting my comment removed for linking a person's website that has hi res photos from above Fuku. Is there something I should know about the freelance reporter Jim Stone? His photos are amazing, I am not sure why this is being censored.

  • Lacsap Lacsap

    Nuclear power/bomb is a Jewish invention and not as many believe American or even German.

    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      If you look at this picture of the site, it look much worse than the photos they are showing:
      http://i.imgur.com/dormfxz.jpg?1

    • MichaelV MichaelV

      So…this disaster is the fault of the Jews??

      I refuse to believe that.

      had you said matzo balls, Hanukkah, and beautiful women, that I could believe.

    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      Actually, Ernest Rutherford is the 'father' of nuclear power:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Rutherford

      http://www.nndb.com/people/218/000068014/

      and he wasn't Jewish. Oppenheimer was Jewish:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Robert_Oppenheimer

      but Fermi wasn't, he was born Catholic:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrico_Fermi

      I would say there's plenty of blame to go around.

      • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

        Yes , plenty ..all western cultures have build the road to hell on this finite planet in my view..but not all equally agressif..
        But if usa does something "National Security" then i think its good for israel too.. just saying..

        • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

          ps srry Heart , i did not see you posting whilest i was still typing and thinking..

          • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

            No problem..DID..it seems that several of us are in a..'say it because it needs to be said' type mood…. along with lapses of introspection and reflection.

            All qualities of mentality are being tested…

        • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

          Scratch "western" cultures , All dominant cultures that are alive today period

      • hbjon hbjon

        If your a thinking person, here is something to ponder. The substance called uranium had been played with by humans long before the element was isolated and named. Metal working has been around for millennia. There are physical properties of uranium that are unique to the substance and must have been very interesting to the people. How many people were sacrificed in the gradual learning process all the way up to where it was found that among the same element there were species that differed in weight and properties? The person who invented nuclear bombs surely must have blown himself up. His neighbor thought to himself,"Wow, Mr. Smith was playing around with that stuff, and look what happened." Imho, the names attached to the advances in the understanding of this great evil probably borrowed the knowledge from the poor soul who sacrificed his life out of curiosity in a phenomenon.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Yep..enough blame to go around.
    But there is no one in the world that can convince me that Israel is not watching reactors..
    They say they were denied access by the Japanese government…I don't believe it…

    Israeli Security Firm in Charge at Japanese Nuke Facilities Prior to Disaster

    March 18 2011

    "The Arava-based Magna BSP company, which specializes in producing and installing stereoscopic sensory and thermal imaging cameras, had been contracted to place cameras around one of the plant’s six cores – the core that has been experiencing explosions and overheating.

    Speaking to The Jerusalem Post on Monday, Magna’s head, Haim Siboni, said the thermal cameras also had the ability to detect the presence of radioactive clouds in the air, but added that Magna had not been able to gain access to the images recorded by the cameras at this time."

    http://theuglytruth.wordpress.com/2011/03/18/israeli-security-firm-in-charge-at-japanese-nuke-facilities-prior-to-disaster/

    PS..And not a word to their people.

  • timemachine2020 timemachine2020

    Known fractures in soil AKA Corium Fissure Cracks

  • NoNukes NoNukes

    Bobby1 on September 25, 2013 at 6:12 pm said:

    Large scoop! Unit 4 explosion image found “know the source of the smoke,” Iwata Kiyoshi (Oyama Koichi)

    See the white smoke (reactor on) the center of the screen comparison of 6:00 and 7:00 and 6:15 on March 2011! Wall of the nuclear fuel pool side intact!
    The screen of 7:00, it appears to have different wall of the nuclear fuel pool side collapses!

    http://www.asyura2.com/13/genpatu33/msg/744.html (Japanese)

    http://optimalprediction.com/wp/general-discussion/comment-page-7/#comment-16337

    (Check out the pic though, that’s the spent fuel pool on fire.)

  • NoNukes NoNukes

    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA NUCLEAR REGULATORY COMMISSION

    JAPAN’S FUKUSHIMA DAIICHI ET AUDIO FILE
    WEDNESDAY – MARCH 16, 2011

    CHUCK CASTO: For me, I’m evermore convinced that there’s nothing there. There’s major damage to that building. And I just have to stake my career on it.

    But I don’t see that there’s any structural integrity there at all.

    http://enformable.com/2012/03/nrc-transcripts-chuck-casto-re-fukushima-unit-4-for-me-im-evermore-convinced-that-theres-nothing-there-theres-major-damage-to-that-building-and-i-just-have-to-stake-my-career-on-it/

  • NoNukes NoNukes

    I have noticed that public discussion of reactor 4 is usually accompanied by unusually high spikes in radiation, 10x, 20x or more. Such spikes are common these days, yet always with discussion of reactor 4.

    "Bobby1
    on September 25, 2013 at 6:14 pm said:
    Arkansas radioactive rain measurement, Sept. 20. About 27 times background.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5GagenFbjY&feature=youtu.be

    http://optimalprediction.com/wp/general-discussion/comment-page-7/#comment-16337

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    March 19 Fukushima Update – No. 4 Pool Fission?
    March 19, 2011
    http://www.moonofalabama.org/2011/03/march-19-fukushima-update.html

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Fukushima Is Falling Apart: Are You Ready … For A Mass Extinction Event?
    “If they are MOX fuel, containing 6% plutonium, one fuel rod has the potential to kill 2.89 billion people. If this pool collapses, as Senator Wyden is now saying too, we would face a mass extinction event from the release of radiation in those rods….”
    http://www.infowars.com/fukushima-is-falling-apart-are-you-ready-for-a-mass-extinction-event/

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    If there was really a danger of a collapse of Unit4, wouldn't they simply dispense with the testing of the new cranes, and get on with fuel removal? Just asking.

    My thought is that almost all of the official attention on SFP4 is for the sole purpose of diverting attention away from two things:
    1. The problem of three missing nuclear cores, lost in the Earth below Reactor Buildings 1-3.
    2. The releases which have already occurred, which will over time take down the nation of Japan, the State of Hawaii, and the West Coast of the US and Canada to the Rocky Mountains, and which is destroying the Pacific Ocean Seafood Industry.

    Axiom:
    When you have a really big problem, and small problem, draw the public's attention to the small problem.

    This goes double for a really big problem you have no solution for. 😉

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

      SFP #4 is the biggest problem with the most plutonium having no containment. Right now the Fukushima disaster is 17.5 Chernobyls. If SFP #4 blows up, it will be 85 Chernobyls.

      • Anthony Anthony

        Personally I'm still most concerned about the loss of the common pool due to its sheer volume of poisons.

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

          If SFP #4 explodes, it will take the common spent fuel with it. See below.

          • Anthony Anthony

            Exactly – a cruel game of dominoes. Radiation reminds me of a throbbing injury but instead it radiates poisons and cellular chaos. Fuku unchecked will get SO COMPLETELY toxic it will radiate like a circle from it source, so potent at the center wafting out getting weaker but still deadly. All the while getting STRONGER AND STRONGER at its middle until one day, a thousand years from now it will begin to lessen in toxicity for the next several hundred years. Close to reality it this shitter blows?

  • or-well

    Abe @ Wall Street vows to keep nuclear energy, pitches deregulation,says japan economy is "extremely good" and will never abandon nuclear.
    Mainichi has the story.

  • or-well

    Japan Today has Chubu Electric applying for Hamaoka safety approval.

  • or-well

    Governor of Niigata approves Tepco's application for the regulatory standard compliance exam, according to Tepco press release.

  • Anthony Anthony

    13001 people here paying attention now!

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Fukushima Daiichi Site: Cesium-137 is 85 times greater than at Chernobyl Accident
    Posted on26 September 2013.
    “Japan’s former Ambassador to Switzerland, Mr. Mitsuhei Murata, was invited to speak at the Public Hearing of the Budgetary Committee of the House of Councilors on March 22, 2012, on the Fukushima nuclear power plants accident. Before the Committee, Ambassador Murata strongly stated that if the crippled building of reactor unit 4—with 1,535 fuel assemblies in the spent fuel pool 100 feet (30 meters) above the ground—collapses, not only will it cause a shutdown of all six reactors but will also affect the common spent fuel pool containing 6,375 fuel assemblies, located some 50 meters from reactor 4. In both cases the radioactive assemblies are not protected by a containment vessel; dangerously, they are open to the air. This would certainly cause a global catastrophe like we have never before experienced. He stressed that the responsibility of Japan to the rest of the world is immeasurable. Such a catastrophe would affect us all for centuries. Ambassador Murata informed us that the total numbers of the spent fuel assemblies at the Fukushima Daiichi site excluding the assemblies in the pressure vessel is 11,421 (396+615+566+1,535+994+940+6375)….” http://www.shoah.org.uk/2013/09/26/fukushima-daiichi-site-cesium-137-is-85-times-greater-than-at-chernobyl-accident/

  • An easy to read chart of inventory of spent fuel bundles at Fukushima Dai-ichi. Each bundle contains upwards of 72 fuel rods.

    http://josephmiller.typepad.com/.a/6a014e86f76033970d0147e3cfac13970b-800wi

    The page it comes from contains a good overview for those who don't know much about nuclear reactors, like me, so here's the link.

    http://josephmiller.typepad.com/battle-to-stabilize-the-f/2011/03/30-how-did-the-accidents-happen-i-should-preface-this-discussion-with-the-fact-that-there-still-much-speculation-surroundin.html

  • W8R W8R

    Arnie designed the fuel racks.
    Tepco doubled the capacity by removing the empty spaces between the bundles, cutting the safety threshold in half.
    More assemblies per bundle plus less space between equals disaster waiting to happen.
    They aint about to try to remove them.
    Its all BS. No boron, damaged racks and bundles, top handles burned off. We have all seen the pics..
    Who do they think theyre fooling?

    • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

      Send in the diver with a dust pan. (Or, should that be a shovel!)

    • soern

      @W8R
      "Arnie designed the fuel racks"
      Arnie – you mean that Arnie Gunderson, you are shure?
      If yes, now i know why i didnt trust his "well balanced" messages since the beginning.
      I've seen many many faces and i know how a soup seller looks like.
      He argues against melt through on his site too. -??????-
      Simply i dont trust his messages nor him as he makes money with his discussions on Fukushima Accident.
      Sometimes i become even angry about people always arguing with his
      messages.
      I wont ever!

  • I think poor Joseph Miller is pro nuclear which is probably why he hasn't written anything about Fukushima in the last year or two. Pretty hard to be pro nuke as this disaster continues to unfold and to say we might be on the eve of destruction is not a chicken little mentality.

  • yohananw

    The so-called "Competent Authorities" have lost their credibility. The government agencies, the political military, industrial, corporate factors, promoters and regulators of nuclear power have lost public trust. So even apocalyptic rant on Enenews seems sensible…

    >"…the worst is not So long as we can say 'This is the worst.'"< Shakespeare, King Lear, Act IV

  • W8R, they aren't telling us everything. I think its lies on top of lies. Remember TEPCO still works on the hope they can start up all their other reactors and generate revenue to pay back loans and bring the company back. Nobody but Tepco really knows whats going on. But their mission is to save the company at any cost not fix the triple meltdown at any cost. It could be lies stopping the marines from taking over the site. But why Russia, China and Korea have banned Japanese fish and not Canada or USA is puzzling and dissapointing.

    Then there is the Rokkasho issue http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion/2013/09/21/commentary/rokkasho-nuclear-white-elephant-or-yen-sucking-black-hole/#.UkRuXBhbmKw

  • NoNukes NoNukes

    From Majia's blog, important screen shots and her warning about the most recent criticalities, also a comment by James (we miss you James!)

    September 26, 2013 at 7:15 AM
    Majia,

    1. #4 looks completely stable – in contrast to all the latest panic articles about it collapsing. – which I believe are a distraction.

    2. #3 is still burning madly – much worse than a year ago – this shows me the true awesome power of nuclear – the fact that something can burn hard for 18 months or more.

    3. They've cleaned all the rubble off the top of #3. Any overhead photos will show the breached containment, or more likely will be doctored to cover it up.

    4. They seem to have created some type of real time panel pixilation of the daytime view which covers up the flames and smoke somewhat….

    James

    http://majiasblog.blogspot.fr/2013/09/emergency-major-criticality.html

  • pkjn

    A fence containing Fukushima’s radiation has a hole in it
    THURSDAY, SEP 26, 2013 SALON
    The silt barrier is intended to keep contaminated water from flowing into the sea
    A barrier set up to contain radioactive particles from Fukushima’s crippled nuclear plant has a hole in it. It’s the latest thing to go wrong in an increasingly escalating disaster.
    http://www.salon.com/2013/09/26/a_fence_containing_fukushimas_radiation_has_a_hole_in_it/singleton/

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Arnie Gundersen: Fukushima reactor buildings essentially now sitting in mud — Soil could ‘disappear’ during quake and bring structures down with it; That can result from what Tepco’s doing to groundwater (AUDIO)
    http://www.infiniteunknown.net/2013/09/18/arnie-gundersen-fukushima-reactor-buildings-essentially-now-sitting-in-mud-%E2%80%94-soil-could-%E2%80%98disappear%E2%80%99-during-quake-and-bring-structures-down-with-it-that-can-result-from-what-t/