Published: July 11th, 2011 at 12:11 pm ET
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Duxbury Presentation with Gundersen, Fairewinds, July 1, 2011:
- At 7:27 in: It appears that more fuel damaged at Fukushima than all other reactor accidents combined
- At 34:40 in: Fukushima probably worse than I ever thought could happen
- At 36:15 in: Fukushima was well beyond what we could have ever anticipated
- At 1:02:00 in: During April, the people in Seattle could have just as easily been in Tokyo for the amount of hot particles that were there
Duxbury Presentation with Gundersen from Fairewinds Associates on Vimeo.
Published: July 11th, 2011 at 12:11 pm ET
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Nice to know when you’re #1.
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Being #1 should = a new Level 8 nuclear disaster designation. This new higher level designation is long overdue.
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Yeah… we need something like the Richter scale that is used for earthquakes – the sky is the limit.
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Darth:
You’re right. I read somewhere that so far, as in it’s ongoing, more than 70,000,000,000 lethal doses of radiation have been released from Fukushima. Indeed, the “sky is the limit”.
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OT God. I mention IT and what happens? VERMONT IS A DEAD THREAD @ HP NOW. I should have kept my mouth shut.
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IT’S STILL DEAD. That p**ses me off so much. It WAS flying high yesterday and this morning. Now no new comments at all. How can PEOPLE EXPECT TO LEARN about these Plants if places like HP don’t leave a link up?!?! Epic failure.
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come post unmods at realitycheck. there We try to beat the clock
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Snuck under the radar. rad hahaha
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Chemfood/vermont-yankee-plant-nuclear-regulatory-commission_n_894209_96597754.html
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My user name has been taken at your site. I did not set up an account. I am concerned about propaganda….
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How were you able to post this comment?
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Anne : think he is speaking of huffingtonpost.com site !
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at rc or hp? propaganda…how so?
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at chemfood’s site
http://realitycheck.no-ip.info/nnn.html
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Ah..heck..no….I’d stake my life on both places.
Reality Check and Enenews…fierce “truthers”.
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The cool thing at Reality Check is live chat…important for keeping in touch…if …..
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hmmmm…i logged into rcnnn temporarily under your name. didn’t say name taken. not a big deal. u can do so as a temp too (i’m back to chemfood)… or by registering w the chat chantango option
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omg. A french article just came through that SHOULD SOBER UP EVEN THE DRUNKEST OF DRUNKS.
Nuclear waste, something even worse than Chernobyl Fukushima
http://www.culturizando.com/2011/07/deshechos-nucleares-algo-mas-grave-aun.html
I’ll wait to see if you WANT some of it translated. Headline says it all though.
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Look like spanish to me. But I’m monolingual.
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Oh…probably is. What a SOBERING post. The Genie Is OUT OF THE BOTTLE. I’m afraid for our ENTIRE PLANET. This is going to end HORRIFIC.
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Spanish, maybe?
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Yes
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- At the level of radiation is being built at 500 m from the floor on some huge Rails into two halves which will move one time finished on the reactor. The weight of this sarcophagus is 32,000 tons, and is guaranteed to last at least 100 years. Will not prevent spread of radiation from the reactor, only will ensure that there will be no emanation of radioactive dust into the air, or is contaminated ground water table level. …
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Interesting. So it’ll DO NO GOOD AT ALL. Good god.
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Lot more impressive than a tent.
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@Whoppie: Sorry but this is not a French article, it’s Spanish.
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Yeah…so I heard. TY!
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A Google translation of the end of this article:
“On the other hand the nuclear waste generated at the plants since the beginning of the nuclear age, plants closed and used as material, amounted to 300,000 tons, which, to be considered harmless to life, must be isolated for 100,000 years . The major nuclear nations have been buried in the cave 400 meters deep in mountains. Onkaolo in Finland began operating in 2020 and condemned in 2120, and up to 100,000 years will not open. “
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I would like it translated.
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Cindy already did in whole others did in part, scoll down to Cindy July 11, 2011 at 2:52 pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoUkhOup1C4
finland nuke storage for 100,000 years, to be completed and ready in 100 years from now.
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i couldnt find that link saturday ..nothing on you tube about onkaolo. strange!..thanks for posting officerdave
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heres the documentary that i feel goes together repost from discussion page
and heres a video saying how rubbish onkalu is anyway!
Bad geology at Olkiluoto nuclear deposition site (Paha geologia – tekstitetty Suomeksi)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O34JJxc2JF0
oh and remember the latest unfinished reactor in finland is rubbish too! its having to upgrade before its even open Linked to evidence in previous post!
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Oh Wow! Just checked the front page at HP
Lookee here!
SHOCK REPORT: MURDOCH PAPERS TARGETED EX-UK PRIME MINISTER
This is HUGE NEWS = it might even be MUCH BIGGER THAN THAT – i/e Nuclear Reactor type stuff coming soon too. (i can dream) Watch Wikileaks too. Old Murdoch is GOING DOWN!! THINK: foxNOTnews. A network FULL OF PROPAGANDA!
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Wow….The experts say it is the worst nuclear diaster so far…ummm ..Chernobyl ..1 reactor…Fukushima..4…at least.
Wow…second grade math class could have pulled off this equation.
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A Huffer just posted this important LINK:
Radioactive Refugee are the people that are forced to leave their homes and or Countries (usually forever) because of the spread of Radioactive pollution.
Tens of thousands of Japanese are now Radioactive Refugees living in camps because of the wide spread pollution caused by their nuclear reactor disaster on 03/11/11.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Radioactive%20Refugee
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MISSION check other thread for INFO on how to get back on HP.
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Monday, July 11, 2011
Waste nuclear, something more serious even than Fukushima and Chernobyl
The time that has passed since the beginning of the ordeal to residents in the area of 20 km around the plant in Fukushima Prefecture, which is very similar to that were submitted by residents of Chernobyl, is leaving at last see the magnitude of the iceberg at the global level nuclear waste, something more serious than the leaking of nuclear radiation in both cases.
Following the initial concealment became the Japanese of the true magnitude of the disaster, by the private company, global, Green Peace, in an effort to not shake the defenders of the environment environment or damage the industry of global electrical energy production, a problem which was intended to let pass unnoticed as this erupting.
Recently it was discovered that deck of reinforced concrete and sand, Chernobyl reactor had cracks, which could produce leaks of radioactivity from nuclear waste in the same. The IAEA (International Atomic Energy Agency – International Atomic Energy Agency) – had already established that Fukushima was a problem of degree 7, which was the maximum. However given the noticeable difference with Chernobyl, especially for the high reading of buried reactor radiation and pollution of the soil, they raised this to grade 8.
At the current stage is being built, Chernobyl, a sarcophagus of carbon steel, coated by a covered internal and external stainless steel. It is a vault of the size of a football field and its maximum height is 100 meters.
At the level of radiation is being built at 500 m from the floor on some huge Rails into two halves which will move one time finished on the reactor. The weight of this sarcophagus is 32,000 tons, and is guaranteed to last at least 100 years. Will not prevent spread of radiation from the reactor, only will ensure that there will be no emanation of radioactive dust into the air, or is contaminated ground water table level. It will be placed on your site by 2015.
On the other hand the nuclear waste generated in the plants since the beginning of the nuclear age, closed plants and equipment already used, amount to 300,000 tonnes, which they consider harmless to life, must be isolated for 100,000 years. The large nuclear Nations buried them in caves at 400 meters deep in the mountains. Onkaolo in Finland began operating in 2020 and condemn in 2120, and up to 100,000 years later will not open.
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I used ‘Microsoft translator’ for the article posted in spanish Earlier
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me too !
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Great Job Cindy. Thank you. It’s an important one for sure!
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which they consider harmless to life should read harmfull to life!
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Hi there, first post. A big Thank you for all the info and updates
Wanted to especially thank those of you who put translations and transcripts and content and not only links. I am in India, internet connection is terrible (but very little nuke around!) so whatever you all can do to limit my internet connection time is greatly appreciated.
Also I cannot watch You Tube these days (connection too slow), so I am missing all Arnie Gundersen last info. Can anyone can put transcripts or abstracts here?
And Whoopie and everybody, keep your spirit up and take time to enjoy real life. The main thing is in the present, right now, and lucky you you have food and shelter and even though contaminated you’re not in hell, yet. Please appreciate and think positive. We ALL need positivity, the worse it goes the more positive minds we need.
I appreciate the good laughter and jokes.
Enough of “oh my God!” please.
And yes, lets us be active not just post on ene…
Good luck!
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go to the fairwinds site the transcripts are under the video…you might have to click on a video to open the page then scroll down under the video…hope this helps. peace
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I ordered the 2005 modern remake of On The Beach and it is pretty topical considering what is going on. Nice remake with modern touches like laptops, cell phones, etc…make sure you click and play all scenes or you might think the movie ends a little abruptly (Hint…it does NOT end at the end of the scene where they get a cryptic message Do Not Despair!
The characters are great and fit the Australian setting (Anthony Perkins and Fred Astaire were great in the 1959 movie, but the 2005 actors who play those parts really speak Australian!).
http://www.amazon.com/Beach-Armand-Assante/dp/B0007N1JNM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1310410220&sr=8-2
I have a couple of very short clips that I posted on Youtube to give a preview of a couple of neat scenes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBJAlASdq9o
The submarine captain of the last American survivors on earth gets the news that the deadly radiation from the massive thermonuclear war with China is bleeding across the atmosphere at the equator and will soon descend on the last vestiges of civilization in Australia.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzsZTEEkrm0
Radiation map of the world on a large TV.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1iAABDPt3w
City life after the supplies of petrol are low and looters run around. The 2005 Anthony Perkins character sees how things have gone amok.
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I think it’s a year 2000 remake, not 2005?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0219224/
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>I think it’s a year 2000 remake, not 2005?
Quite right…thanks. Helluva big plasma TV for 2000! Made a title edit so maybe it is correct now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBJAlASdq9o&feature=related
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Good to know we’ll be the last to go here in Australia. Isn’t that nice? I’ll turn off the lights before the final curtain.
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I didn’t know there was a recent movie of On the Beach! I’ll check it out. I love the book.
For books, also read Alas Babylon. Very similar theme, nuclear war and its aftermath. It explores the breakdown in society more. It’s the ultimate SHTF book.
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Radiation Levels in Northwest Rain Were Up to 130 Times Safe Drinking Water Standards Following Fukushima
Radiated Rain
By GERALD POLLET
http://www.counterpunch.org/pollet07112011.html
excerpted:
Radiation levels in rainwater collected in Portland, Oregon on March 25, 2011 were 86.8 pCi/L for Iodine 131 (I131), amongst the highest recorded in the US after Fukushima. Rain in Olympia had even higher levels of radioactive Iodine. The Portland result was not posted by EPA until April 4.
The maximum level of Iodine 131in rain in Olympia, WA was 125 pCi/L on March 24, which was not posted by EPA until April 4.
Highest levels in rainwater in California were collected March 22, 2011 in Richmond, CA with levels of 138 pCi/L.
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What’s the EPA safe limit? 3 pCi/l?
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Another 3.0 earthquake 11 miles (18 Km) from Fukushima Daiichi:
8:13, 2011/07/12
Earthquake Activity
Date-Time 2011/07/12 8:09
Epicenter Area FUKUSHIMAKENHAMADOORI
Depth(km) 10
Magnitude(M) 3.0
Area(LAT) 37.1
Area(LNG) 140.9
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This 4.8 earthquake was 11.7998 miles (18.99 km) from Fukushima Daiichi.
Earthquake – 4.8 july 11
Magnitude4.6 Date-Time
• Monday, July 11, 2011 at 00:09:17 UTC
• Monday, July 11, 2011 at 09:09:17 AM at epicenter
• Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones
• Monday, July 11, 2011 at 09:09:17 AM – Seoul, Tokyo
Location37.217°N, 140.802°E Depth42.9 km (26.7 miles) RegionEASTERN HONSHU, JAPAN
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php
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are you going to make something out of each quake? you say you aren’t calling wolf, why not post up a quake when it is only necessary. posting up something about each little quake, you do realize those quakes have been occurring since march, right? no reason to make a deal out of each quake or feel the need to break each quake down.
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We are looking for seismic patterning…HYPOTHESIS
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Thank you to whoever posted the link to this quake energy map for Japan since March 11. The largest quake is graphed at the top for each day, and the number of quakes is the lower line graphed. This is updated every day.
http://www.japanquakemap.com/dailyEnergy
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Hum… Todays article on Japantimes.
Radiation, debris vex Tohoku’s fishermen
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110712f1.html
On June 29, Tepco revealed that tellurium 129m had been detected near the power plant (in the sea) in concentrations of 720 becquerels per liter, or over double the level considered safe. The isotope only has a half life of 34 days, …
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Not just a proof of the ongoing criticality, also proof that the plant is leaking all over
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thanks for the post…another bit of proof of recriticality
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Amongst all the bad news, here’s an encouraging article:
http://www.care2.com/causes/sunflowers-may-heal-fukushimas-radioactive-soil.html
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Kan says Japan must ditch plan to lift reliance on nuclear energy
Jul. 12, 2011
TOKYO — Prime Minister Naoto Kan said Tuesday his government has no choice but to jettison a plan to boost the ratio of the nation’s reliance on nuclear energy to 53 percent by 2030.
Kan made the remark at …
http://www.japantoday.com/category/politics/view/kan-says-japan-must-ditch-plan-to-lift-reliance-on-nuclear-energy
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Japanese billionaire takes the lead in promoting renewable energy
http://nuclear-news.net/2011/07/12/japanese-billionaire-takes-the-lead-in-promoting-renewable-energy/
and another worry for the nuke lobby
Stuxnet computer worm ushers in new threat to nuclear installations
http://bigthink.com/ideas/39255
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Regarding Revelation and its prophecy of a global event involving ‘Wormwood’; What if there was a worldwide EMP solar flare, or an asteroid hit which otherwise generated a global EMP? How many of the 435 nuclear reactors around the world would still have power for core and spent fuel pond cooling? How many of those, if any, have EMP protection? Or design which allows hot shutdown and automatic cooling without the use of power? I’d guess none. How many thousands of tons of radionuclides would this release to the world?
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the earth is capanle of so much more in the way of megadisasters..history and prehistory is full of it…the only sane thing to do would br to decommision the lot..quickly!! my opinion!
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meant capable
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The history of the earth is full of the extinction of species. Man, at the top of the food chain, will be the largest target of extinction due to radiation poisoning.
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Yes. In the context of the discussion
Expert: Appears that more nuclear fuel damaged at Fukushima than all other reactor accidents in history combined (VIDEO):July 11th, 2011 at 12:11 PM,
See
http://plutoniumaradiumabillionpeoplehitdna.blogspot.com/2007/12/health-effects-of-worldwide-nuclear.html
and Table IMNA therein,we see that in India alone the excess Infant Mortality in the Nuclear Era 1946-1989 over the mean Infant Mortality 1911-1945 is 30 million. Applying the precautionary principle, this is also a ball park estimate for infant mortality in India due to Fukushima ongoing disaster alone in the years to come. Of course this includes the synergistic effect of the ionising radiation and the chems like dioxin by burning plastics and mercury from coal and other ingested inhaled chems like agri poisons, GM foods etc…
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And if the infant mortality in India climbs to 30 million because of Fukushima, so will the population of India dynamically increase to 2 billion from the present 1.2 billion because of reasons of community survival feedback. See
http://indiapopulation.blogspot.com/
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http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/f1/images/11071206_table_summary-e.pdf
“Unit 4: Data on temperature of the spent fuel pool are not measured (from July 9 to 11) due to the temporary power source outage for the remote supervisory equipment.”
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Tepco wouldn’t change blueprint that left emergency backups vulnerable
GE plan followed with inflexibility
Yukiteru Naka, a former employee of General Electric who took part in designing and operating reactor units 1, 2 and 6 at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant, is just one of a few engineers whose knowledge spans the facility’s 40-year history.
Naka recalls that he and many of his colleagues had a lingering question about the plant at least since the mid-1980s: Why were the backup emergency diesel generators and DC batteries still located in the turbine buildings’ basements?
“If an earthquake hits and destroys some of the pipes above, water could come down and hit the generators. DC batteries were also located too close to the diesel generators…
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110714a2.html
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No vid of original reactor 4 explosion and no talk of this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHVLONNtGn0
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