Nuclear Professor: Yes, worry about what they’re doing at Fukushima, there’s good reason — One mistake from disaster — Gov’t has lost public trust, I don’t believe them either — Another quake to be ‘final blow’ for Japan (VIDEO)

Published: November 19th, 2013 at 12:12 pm ET


Arirang’s ‘Prime Talk’, Nov. 19, 2013:

Should we be worried [about the fuel removal at Fukushima? Dr. Suh Kune-yull, Professor of Nuclear Engineering at Seoul National University: Yeah. There’s good reason to be. Actually, they’re talking about removing these fuel bundles — 1,500 of them — if there’s any one mistake, it’s going to be a disaster. That source itself is like a 1,000 nuclear bombs. Think about Hiroshima, so they’re talking about 10,000 times more radioactive material. That’s the hottest spot on the planet. […]

Why did it take over 2 years to get to this point? Dr. Suh Kune-yull: It’s not actually long enough in fact. […] They’re talking about 3 totally molten reactors plus Unit 4 which is 1,500 fuel bundles high up in the air […] it looks like they’re just moving forward, probably politically, not technically. […]

Would you eat fish after more than 30 years of radiation leakage into ocean? […] Dr. Suh Kune-yull: It’s a matter of public trust. Both the Japanese and Korean governments have dropped the ball on that. They’ve lost the public trust. No matter what they say we’re not listening. I’m not listening, either. […]

If there’s to be an earthquake or tsunami, what would be the consequences be like? […] Dr. Suh Kune-yull: Another earthquake — there will be a real disaster, a real final blow — because one more earthquake or even tsunami and they can ruin the rest of the plants.  […] There’s going to be a real disaster, which we can hardly imagine. […] What can they do about it? Just keep their fingers crossed.

Watch the full interview here

Published: November 19th, 2013 at 12:12 pm ET


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48 comments to Nuclear Professor: Yes, worry about what they’re doing at Fukushima, there’s good reason — One mistake from disaster — Gov’t has lost public trust, I don’t believe them either — Another quake to be ‘final blow’ for Japan (VIDEO)

    • ENENews

      Description: EON is proud to host-post another important documentary by the Academy Award-winning team Vivienne Verdon-Roe and Michael Porter. Their 1994 expose' tells the currently relevant story of the U.S. soldiers and sailors who were used as EXPERIMENTAL ANIMALS in America's quest for nuclear dominance…and were then denied health care. (More at link above)

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Experimental animals. Yes, we're all experimental animals. The beginning of this video is just terrifying. I watched the pigs, wrapped in reflective blankets, and placed in things which looked like barbeques, squirming in anguish, and screaming in their death throes. A fitting opening to a documentary on the horrors the atomic veterans experienced, and still experience today.

      • We Not They Finally

        its not just a final blow for Japan.It may well be the final blow for all of us…Are The Satanists rejoicing? Unfortunately the most powerful and wealthy many of them are pure unadulterated evil.David Icke has a great attitude.He seems as aware as any of us.
        The maxim is sane good humans would not destroy their own planet.

    • PurpleRain PurpleRain

      I just can't watch that.

  • dka

    TEPCO is extremely well prepared in the event that pool 4 starts to loose water. Pomps, water, everything is ready in case something does not go as in a perfect scenario.

  • weeman

    This is not a game of cards or chance and you cannot leave it to chance, that is redicilious, we all know the pension the Asians have for gambling? No disrespect and variables apply.
    We have to get into the game of probability in favor of the dealer?, big difference.
    Now give me the probability of a accident happening and I will decide if it is worth it, is it 5 percent or 80 percent?
    Tell me and have you increased the potassium iodine tablets produced world wide, just in case, why not, should be pro active, as this is a distinct possibility, no, yes, off course?

    Piss me off
    Gets on my nerves
    Well Your a one balled man
    And it off to the rodeo.

  • pkjn

    Fukushima fallout damaged thyroid glands of California babies
    19th November 2013 The Ecologist
    Confirmed cases of hypothyroidism, defined as those with Thyroid Stimulating Hormone level greater than 29 units increased by 21% in the group of babies that were exposed to excess radioactive Iodine in the womb. The same group of children had a 27% increase in 'borderline cases'.
    Our paper reports 44 confirmed thyroid cancer cases in 0-18 year olds in Fukushima in the last six months (a figure that has since risen to 53). In the hypothyroidism paper we discuss the 44 cases relative to the population and calculate that this represents an 80-fold excess based on national data prior to the Fukushima Iodine releases.

    • Socrates

      Christopher Busby, Janette Sherman and Joseph Mangano are absolutely correct.

      The rise in post-Fukushima mortality and morbidity will keep increasing. This study only examines the effects of Iodine 131 discharges early on.

      An analogy would be like getting a dented fender in s parking lot but then getting run over by a fleet on 18-wheeler trucks going 75 miles per hour.

      In the end, we all are going to die anyway, but the risky business ahead assures that this will happen sooner, rathrr than later.

      The news of this is getting out from what Ican determine. I just spoke to old friend whose father flew the mission to bomb Japan. She agrees that the Pacific Ocean is becoming sterilized. She says it is all the fault of the nuclear madmen who wanted to conquer the world with NPPs being part of that plan to justify the expenditures and to enrich.

      She and I went through the Cuban Missile crisis together. We bodysurfed at the Wedge in Newport. We surfed in La Jolla.

      We both went to UCLA. She says the ecosystem is in sharp decline, especially the coastal marine environment. The number of species is in decline.

      Younger people did not witness what it used to be like. One big experiment for NUCLEAR DOMINATION , all for naught.

      It is hard to hide the tears…

      Brain development depends on thyroid as a master hormone, especially during gestation and in early neonatal periods. The human genome, only recently sequenced is irreparably damaged forever.

      • dharmasyd dharmasyd

        Socrates! I must say hello because we have such similar backgrounds. I body surfed the Wedge, Oak St, Wind N Sea; board surfed Trestles, San Onofre, Rincon. Went to UCB in 1950s where we took our geiger counters out to measure the radiation on cars in the rain on campus during the Pacific tests.

        During those A-Bomb tests, I had a job working banquets at the Claremont Hotel which ususally hosted the dinners for the AEC (Atomic Energy Commission, predecessor to the NRC). I was frequently assigned to serve the head table, waiting on Glen Seaborg, Ed Teller, and other nuclear notables. It was how I first learned of official lying. At the time the Quakers were sending radioactive asparagus to Eisenhower and the AEC was issuing statements that eating vegetables and dairy were perfectly safe, I watched these noble scientists, push the veggies away, scrape the whip cream off the desserts, etc.

        It was, as you say, complete NUCLEAR DOMINATION without regard for anything else. Those who questioned or maintained doubt and moral consciousness, like Oppenheimer and Einstein and even John Brofman, were ostracized or driven off.

        Capitalism and nuclearism are incompatible, mutually destructive. In my early anti-nuclear days I used to view the splitting of the atom as the trigger, the mandate, for the next evolution, the evolution of consciousness. It seems that we humans simply didn't recognize what was necessary to make the next leap of evolution…

        • dharmasyd dharmasyd

          Socrates (cont.) Einstein referred to the next stage of evolution when he said that everything had changed with the splitting of the atom "…save man's mode of thinking." To me, this is the mandate to change that "mode of thinking," to evolve human concsiousness.

          It's too bad. It would have been very interesting to watch us become more compassionate, more caring, more into realizing we share this planet and are all each others' brothers, sisters, and keepers. But NUCLEAR DOMINANCE won out. Maybe there can be some unlikely reversal, but I doubt it. I think that the gene pool has been irreversably damaged.

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            dharmasyd, did you know the young engineer from Idaho Flats who went on to be the head engineer (operations first, then nuclear engineering) for Hanford? The one who became an auto racing world champion?

          • Sam

            Nuclear power is like a hand grenade in the hands of monkeys. They are playing with it and…..the probability of one of the monkeys pulling the pin out = 1 !

        • We Not They Finally

          WE definitely have evolved…evolved into a pile of dust.How ever my whole life is based on the belief that the human soul is immortal and that really there is no death but contined movement into other possibilities elsewhere…The earth is not our home we have all come to the earth from elsewhere. We all every one of us were born with some alien DNA. Guess we can look at the possibility and where it leads us if there was no big bang at all.The macro- cosm and micro- cosm play by the same rules and are totally connected and the unified field theory is now being proved by Nassim Haramein.

          • dharmasyd dharmasyd

            Don't know of all you refer to, but am in general agreement. All of this is so much greater than our tiny existence.

  • Please note in this diagram

    Common intake is upper middle of rectangle inner harbor for 1, 2, 3, and 4 also rectangular inner harbor for 5 and 6. Cooling system discharge on both sides of both complexs. Its a common system for all facilities.
    Therefore all spentfuel rods including common pool have this salt contamination affecting safety. At this point the mission looks to be get whatever is salvagable out. Dont think they even know how to get damaged fuel out. As fuel leaves the pool that volume must be filled with water to maintain water level for remaining rods so that pool will still be stressed with a heavy load just less rods to burn. Best progress available conzidering 3 melted through cores and readings in the Seiverts…..unapproachable. Still they should be diverting groundwater before its polluted and dry casking as much fuel possible. Peace.

  • Socrates

    From what I remember of probability theory, if the risk factors are independent variables, one must multiple the risk times the number of times the risk is taken to determine the overall magnitude of the risk of the procedure.

    So if we flip a coin repeatedly and the risk of getting tails rather than heads is roughly 50-50, the risk of coming up with tails on a tails-you-lose can be determined by 100% -(.5 X .5. X .5, etc.)

    How many times can they pull bundles or straws or whatever before tragedy strikes?

    This probability approaches an almost 100% certainty of a operational complication.

    Looking at the magnitude of the consequences, the experts are saying 1,000 nuclear bombs with 10,000 times as much radiation!

    Even if that does not happen, aftr thirty years you would not want to eat fish because there will be constant discharges into the Pacific Ocean!

    I said this exact thing on March 15, 2011. That's because I lived through above-ground testing in Nevada on the late 40s and early 50s, and knew that these people are more than willing to take any risks to advance nuclear supremacy.

    We are lucky to have averted an all out nuclear war, but this is maybe worse in some ways. There could be a blast, too.

    At the age of six years, I knew they were nuts. They still are.

    Trust indeed! Who can trust madmen? And why?

    And they say the term "evil" is reserved for Stalin and Hitler. How can they look in a mirror?

    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      "Gov’t has lost public trust, I don’t believe them either"

      There isn't a population anywhere in the world that trusts their own government anymore.

    • scottyji scottyji

      Nice post & contribution. Thanks.

    • We Not They Finally

      I define evil as my friend Florence Maines the psychic in jess stearns book :reaching out for what you have no right to.Evil is that surge for greed power over others and the enjoyment of wanton destruction of your own species…Its the curse of Satanism that nothing is enough and you end up a gloated beast like a T-REX or Velocaraptur…

  • Environmental terrorism is an unlawful action or set of actions leading to short or long-term harm/destruction of environmental resources and property to deprive others of its use. [1] The term also refers to the unnecessary destruction of the environment for personal gain. Fukushima has been a playbook of cost cutting measures since construction began and right through to now.
    It is clear those in power are not looking after anybodies interest except the Bankers. The cost benefit model is flawed and the Politicians show derelection of duty.

    • Socrates

      The DNA of a corporation mandates privatizing profits and externalizing costs so profits trump public safety, let alone environmental quality.

      Greed may be good for Wall.Street fat cats in the short run, but they and their children are going to meet the exact same fate as we and our children will.

      Did Ayn Rand ever figure this out before she smoked her lungs out and went on Social Security and Medicare?

      • We Not They Finally

        There is a simple excuse for Ayn Rand she became anti-collective when she was brought up as a child in Russia during the Russian Revolution…Our childhood can entrap us like nothing else.Selfishness actually creates all kinds of problems… Like greed,destruction of the grounds of societal responsibility that one finds in the Bill of Rights ..At least this radioactive plague will ensure we all have the right to perish.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    So in essence, you and I are not allowed to do (Environmental Terrorism) which is exactly what those in power are legally always allowed to do. 🙁

    We Humans certainly are all bat-shit crazy by a cleverly created Zeitgeist Matrix design.. 🙁

    Worldwide oppression is certainly approaching/coming soon.. 🙁

    • Socrates

      The Matrix sure killed off hope Obewan.

      Anthropology explains all of this. Being too clever by half got our species past several ice ages, but this fix is a real botch.

    • We Not They Finally

      Actually the word is not oppression..Its collapse Panic and frenzy…It will not be pretty.Im probably guessing but there may well be very unfortunate steps taken to divert our attention from
      concern to something else.

  • Grampybone Grampybone

    "it looks like they’re just moving forward, probably politically, not technically." This is one of the truest statements about the actions of TEPCO.Gov I have ever read. They are moving forward with a PR campaign of delusion and lies. Keep the public quiet and uninformed and avoid consequences at every turn.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    "Another quake to be ‘final blow’ for Japan".
    The odds?
    At least they acknowledge being on the mat.
    A final blow…to finish off Japan is unnecessary.
    Unconsciousness fast approaching.

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    The final blow was the loss of three nuclear cores into the environment. Greater Tokyo should have evacuated on 3/11/2011. (Please send away your mothers and babies now.) Japan should have evacuated en masse to fill the Chinese Ghost Cities with life and culture! LONG AGO!!

    There is still nothing in place to block the movement of highly contaminated groundwater. (Why the hell not?)

    TEPCO still circulates water through useless containment vessels with big holes in the bottom where 94 tonnes of molten fuel corium exited (somewhat less in Unit1). Better to fill the containments and reactors with borated sand, then seal them in concrete.

    I don't care how mentally-ill you TEPCO and Japanese Government types are, you simply must step up your game!

    Doesn't the utter destruction of the Pacific Ocean Ecosystem mean anything to you sushi-loving mfs?
    Geez Louise! 😉

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    You sound very concerned and that is vey good.. 🙂

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    oops.."very" good! 🙂

  • Nick

    Cold Shutdown.

    Remember how we were lied to about Units 1,2, and 3?

    Now that we know all 3 cores are out of containment, spewing their eternal toxins hither thither and yon, how much do we trust the shell-game of SFP#4?

    Within allowable limits.

    No immediate cause for concern.

    Radiation sickness only happens to sad or unhappy people.

    Radiation monitors going off-scale…..sorry we don't have the actual number so we didn't report it.

    Etc. Etc.

    Each of us has to make our own decisions, no one can give us a REAL answer about what has happened, nor will happen.

    At this point, I don't see much if any of decontamination going on, just busy work to milk dollars and Yen from us all.

    The Secrecy act in Japan is very ominous and I fear other countries may go the same route.

    Who knows, ANYONE who calls nuclear power/weapons industries evil ,may just vanish someday?

    Don't fool yourselves for one minute that Fukushima is under control. Only the information.

    Tomorrow is gone. Love for today. Cherish the past.

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      Yeah, I want to see the video where they take a dosimeter that is pegging off a happy person, and put it on an unhappy person standing next to the happy person. Will the dosimeter drop to normal levels? Dun Dun Dunnnn.

    • flatsville

      >>>Who knows, ANYONE who calls nuclear power/weapons industries evil ,may just vanish someday?<<<

      I just did that yesterday on ENENEWS to someone who I am certain was an industry shill…and one of the worst I've read in some time. Whoever is paying him is not getting their money's worth.

      Still here.

      Enviro group lawyers, free lance litigators, the semi-retierd consultants and enviro political opetatives aren't likely to be "disappeared."

      Whistleblowers are at the grratest risk.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Nick, You are starting to sound like a very powerful Jedi! 🙂

  • bdais92

    I read somewhere that each cask weighs approx. 90 tons……. How can an already unstable SFP 4 handle an additional 90 tons when loaded into the pool to load the rods if its in such dire condition ?? water will take the place of each fuel assembly , is water heavier or lighter than the weight of the fuel assembly would displace? With the huge explosion at unit 3, is there even a sfp there? or unit 1 even? Do we know if theres enough room in the common sfp for ALL of the rods in 1-4 sfps, and how safe is that sfp? Not much new info coming out lately, how are all of the other units doing 1,2,3,5,6??

    • scottyji scottyji

      The cask is moved by the larger of two Hitachi cranes. The larger crane's weight and the cask's weightare supported by the new structure, not the old & damaged #4 building.

    • razzz razzz

      Uranium Baseball
      A major league baseball weighs about 5.25 ounces. A uranium baseball would weigh over 8.5 pounds!

      Not to say the bundles are solid uranium but you get the idea. 1 gallon water weighs 8.34 pounds and takes up more space than uranium to weigh that much.

      Uranium is very dense.

      Unit 4's spent fuel pool is overloaded and has hotter fuel than the rest of the pools plus the building is a total wreck. So it is important that the pool is unload first to bet the fuel to ground level.

      All I know is that the common pool holds its water and I haven't heard of any leaks there. The only reason the common pool would be at capacity is because TEPCO doesn't spend the money to move it to dry cask storage (about a million bucks per container).

      They keep saying the fuel needs to cooled 4-5 years before it can be stored inside dry casks. At this rate (almost 3 years later) all the fuel and melted cores could be air cooled by the time they get around to removing everything.

      Unit 2's pool needs to be unloaded next because 1&3 are probably to damaged or full of debris (I know 3 is full of rubble, look at TEPCO's website for past video of that pool).

      All the pools hold their water and I read rumors that Unit 5&6 pools are slowly being unloaded. Any Units that were functioning at the time of the quake eventually melted down. The rest of the Units were in various stages of refueling or maintenance.