Nuclear Professor: Fish on West Coast found with Fukushima radioactive material — We’re testing fish that are sold at markets to U.S. consumers (AUDIO)

Published: February 22nd, 2014 at 9:30 am ET
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Radio VR – US Edition, Feb. 22, 2014 (at 6:15 in):

See also: More US tuna contaminated -- Study: Entire food web "including humans" may be affected as Fukushima radionuclides spread to West Coast

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  • Cisco Cisco

    Catherine Higley said, "So it’s not a level that’s hazardous. It’s a level at or below the natural complement."

    What "natural complement"? The residual left from nuclear bomb testing is not natural complement. That's just ridiculous and certainly unscientific. But, who cares, it's not about science, it's about ideology and putting folks back to sleep. No worries, now what's up with the Kardashians?

    Be careful Dr. Higley, we wouldn't want those industry and government grants to dry up.


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    • ENENews

      'Natural complement' appears to be referring to naturally occurring radionuclides present in the ocean, such as potassium-40 and polonium-210.

      For example Pacific bluefin tuna have a mean K-40 concentration of 367 Bq/kg (dry weight).

      http://www.e3s-conferences.org/articles/e3sconf/pdf/2013/01/e3sconf_ichm13_32001.pdf

      If cesium levels are being found "at… the natural complement" in any fish off the West Coast, that should be front page news.


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      • We Not They Finally

        Oh, potassium-40 again? We're back to "deadly bananas"? Say, I'll take my chances with the bananas and skip the sushi, thank you…


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      • Exactly right. ANY bomb test, waste dump (they've been dumping high level waste in drums offshore since the '40s) and/or Fuku contaminates in the food are man-made and IN ADDITION TO the 'natural' radionuclide complement. If they're seeing man-made radioactivity "at the level" of natural radioactivity, that means the fish are TWICE as radioactive as 'normal'.

        Two, two, two fish in one! Should sell well to the hormesis crowd. So long as nobody mentions the doubled dose comes from isotopes known to be dangerous in small concentrations (like strontium, tritium, cesium, plutonium and the rest of the longer-lived actinides and fortified with cobalt-60, it's just more bananas. Right?

        I'm sure contamination for any one man-made isotope is well below 'limits' for that isotope, but double the 'normal' dose overall should certainly catch someone's attention.


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        • Socrates

          JoyB,

          Vandals placed fecal matter in our swimming pool at our complex. I did not swim for years.

          If coliform levels were elevated, adding more fecal matter would be fine since there was already fecal material?

          This is the same reasoning. The insane nuclear freaks contaminated the ocean so why not just double the levels and deem it to be "safe?" Poop is "natural."

          I would like to see laws against public health announcements from non-physicians who fail to disclose conflicts of interest and known medical controversies. The majority of physicians would disagree with this professor's safety analysis. In public health, there is the precautionary principle. It in't safe until proven safe.


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      • weeman

        You must remember that as we evolved all these natural isotopes were present and therefore a natural immunity to their presents is expected, but other isotopes are so very rare that evolution would not recognize them or manmade isotopes and in concentrated measures deadly.
        We're did life on this plant first evolve the ocean, no atmosphere to protect from solar radiation, not until the atmosphere was formed did life step on dry land.
        Now what does that tell you?


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      • Fall out man!

        There really should be a page devoted to the lie that Cesium / Strontium / Plutonium contamination can be put into "banana" equivalents. Here are a quick few points to help people understand what a very nasty fraud that is, on a number of levels…
        First – Banana equivalent dose compared to Cesium, as stated by the Nuke industry, makes K40 out to be 240 times more dangerous than it is. K40 levels in the body return to normal within 3 hrs of consuming K40. But in nuke industry calculations, they assume it takes a month.
        Second – The human body is designed to deal with K40 as best it can
        Third – Cesium is a Potassium analogue. So actually eating bananas (high in Potassium) helps you stop taking in the nuke industries Cesium (which really does cause all kinds of disease). Potassium was added to soil on the Marshall Islands to save people from some of the horrible diseases caused by Cesium contamination.
        Fourth – any radioactive element in the body does damage, even one the body is designed to cope better with, like Potassium 40 , which is found in tiny traces with ordinary Potassium.
        Fifth – Potassium is an essential element, and the tiny trace of Radioactive Potassium that is found with normal potassium in food is unavoidable. We just have to put up with it. However Cesium is just contamination, its poison from Nuclear power. It destroys the genome, and brings all life closer to extinction.
        Fallout is not comparable to tiny traces of Potassium found in Bananas.


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    • bluetick

      Well as I understand most of the 1200 or so yummies are classified and we dont know what they are/half life, toxicity ect. please let me know if I have been misinformed….


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    • bluetick

      OK SO OW THEY WANT EVERYONE WITHIN A 100 MILE ZONE of WIPP to go in for lung and body scans… WTF PLUTONIUM 239


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  • We know more now.

    Have none of these so called 'experts' ever read the BEIR VII report?

    "Advances in cell and molecular biology have also contributed new information on the mechanisms through which cells respond to radiation-induced damage and to the close associations between DNA damage response and cancer development."

    Don't forget ;)
    "…other health effects, such as cardiovascular disease and stroke, can result from radiation exposure."

    BEIR VII Report Phase 2:
    http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=11340&page=R8


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  • or-well

    Garbage interview.
    They sounded like nothing less than a tag-team of Tepco spokespeople.
    Higley hit every one of the Nukist cabal's talking points she could in response to Seder's "softball", leading invitations.
    Shows the depth of the "official mythology" though.


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  • jump-ball jump-ball

    Include us out of your arrogant presumptions Higley: we'll test our own fish, and soon probaby won't be eating any of it.


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  • American Phoenix57

    Environmental Protection Agency: “ … any exposure to radiation poses some risk, i.e. there is no level below which we can say an exposure poses no risk. ”

    Nuclear Regulatory Commission: “ any amount of radiation may pose some risk for causing cancer … any increase in dose, no matter how small, results in an incremental increase in risk. ”

    National Academy of Sciences: “ … it is unlikely that a threshold exists for the induction of cancers… ” (John LaForge: Dangerous Disinformation About Radiation, 2011)

    “ There is no safe level of radionuclide exposure, whether from food, water or other sources. Period. ”
    - Jeff Patterson, DO, immediate past president of Physicians for Social Responsibility.

    “ There is no safe dose of radiation since radiation is cumulative. Harm in the form of excess human cancer occurs at all doses of ionizing radiation, down to the lowest conceivable dose and dose rate. ”
    - John Gofman, Ph.D., M.D. in Radiation and Human Health.

    “ There is no safe level of exposure and there is no dose of radiation so low that the risk of malignancy is zero… the genetic risks, and especially those associated with recessive mutations, may be as harmful and debilitating to the human race as the increases of cancer. ”
    - Dr. Karl Z. Morgan, director of the Health Physics Division of Oak Ridge National Laboratory, in Sept. 1978 Bulletin of Atomic Scientists.

    “ No amount of radiation is safe. Every dose is an overdose. ”
    - Nobel Laureate George Wald, in…


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    • We Not They Finally

      Thank you for that.


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    • ratpuppy ratpuppy

      Back in the 70's and early 80's, "There is no safe minimum dose," is also the first thing we were told by the U.S. Navy, when working with nuclear weapons, or as part of N.B.C. training (Nuclear, Biological, Chemical) warfare and defense. (That is why you always send minions to deal with a spill should one happen…)


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    • Homolumina Homolumina

      Thank you Phonenix, just copied all the statements as well as the mailing address of Higley – the letter is in the making ! Thank you !!!


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    • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

      “ No amount of radiation is safe. Every dose is an overdose. ”
      - Nobel Laureate George Wald

      Of course, this is common sense. If you have a susceptibility to disease from ionizing radiation then the lowest possible exposure is necessary. For example, Breast Cancer Susceptibility gene mutations in BRCA1/2 was discovered to create a susceptibility to cancer from x-rays, CT scans, etc. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/elaine-schattner/breast-cancer_b_1879634.html Have all the cancer susceptibility causes been found in the human genome for all types of ionizing radiation? Until this is done, then and only then can you establish a base line for safe levels of ionizing radiation. Incidentally, human experiments to determine physiological and immunological effects of radiation were well documented starting during the cold war era. And as we know, the nuclear (bomb) industry is an integral part of the government. Therefore, the "safe" level is within the margins of immunity from culpability based on data from the aforementioned human experiments. Oh, and the data from gov't experiments on prisoners and MIT's experiments on disabled children without consent of course.

      Radiation hormesis. The body's answer to being attacked by low level radiation.

      CONT'D ->


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  • earthsmith

    Nothing new. Just keep regurgitating nuke puke out their bloody arses . "natural complimant " huh????. The air,water,land,and creatures now those USED TO BE "natural compliments" but no longer thanks to the hierarchy of ignorance,SCIENCE, we have been subjects of your " natural complimant". You disgusting,filth,yellow cake scum…..all of them!


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  • mairs mairs

    Where are the people who say Arnie Gundersen isn't whatever enough for them. He said he's not going to eat any Pacific seafood ever again.


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      • earthsmith

        Arnie is doing what he can. Which is way more than anyone else that is or was in the industry . He is looking tired imo….he deserves some respect.


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      • RonM

        The problem with not eating Pacific fish is that half the time or more you aren't even getting the fish you thought you were and where it came from even though that is supposed to be traceable and documented I think its highly dubious and fish purveyors and supermarkets just tell you whatever they want, what are they going to do not sell you a product that is highly perishable and let it rot in the freezer and then throw it out.

        I'm not going to search the links down but I've seen many stories over the last decade about certain fishes not being the actual fish but another similar fish, Google the topic and you can easily find dozens of stories.

        Anyhow how can they find anything at a level or below the level of natural occurrence? This sentence makes absolutely NO SENSE AT ALL!

        If levels are at or below naturally occurring levels there would be nothing additional to report which there obviously is so they are find levels ABOVE the naturally occurring (or previously contaminated levels.}


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    • We Not They Finally

      Gundersen does SO MUCH. So he's too mild-mannered for people? That's just how he is. We could use a thousand of him and none of Kathryn Higley.


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      • combomelt combomelt

        hey KATHRYN! HERE'S A NATURAL COMPLEMENT(COMPLIMENT?)FOR YOU….

        THANK YOU FOR BEING AN HONEST, UPSTANDING PROFESSOR & RESEARCHER WHO STRIVES TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ABOUT THE INVISIBLE LETHAL PARTICLES SWIRLING AROUND US "NATURALLY". MAINLY, THAT THE DANGER TO YOU STUPID SHEEPLE IS NOT REALLY DANGEROUS, AND FAR BELOW WHAT THE UBER-TRUSTWORTHY, WHOLLY-INDEPENDENT, UN-INFLUENCEABLE epa states is safe.
        I, Kathryn Higley, do hereby swear to deceive, obfuscate, and deflect any and all criticism and/or statements to the contrary of my official capacity/party-line statements which only serve to protect the interests of my cozy best friends in the nuclear cabal who pay me handsomely for my bogus research, and "scholarly" opinions which poo-poo all other inferences of any type of harm emanating from fuku.
        I, Kathryn Higley, have worked my entire life for the enrichment of myself over and above everyone else on earth. I promise to give every cellular amount of energy in my being to supporting the filthy polluting nuclear industry in their offensive meme of exterminating as many humans as possible while stating the exact opposite of reality.
        btw…..F U KATHRYN, MAY YOU SNIFF YOUR NEXT BREATHS FROM THE EXHAUST STACK OF WIPP, AND OR ANY OF THE EXHAUST STACKS AT HANFORD.
        HAVE A NICE DAY, HOW CAN YOU LIVE WITH YOUR LYING, DECEITFUL SELF?


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    • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

      Arnie said he was not eating fish in 2011…

      For anyone thinking he has not sounded the alarm from the beginning here are the videos he has been posting since 2011….

      http://fairewinds.org/media/fairewinds-videos/epidemiologist-dr-steven-wing-discusses-global-radiation-exposures-and-consequences-with-gundersen
      http://fairewinds.org/category/media/fairewinds-videos/
      http://vimeo.com/22586794


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    • Questionit

      Arnie Gundersen changes his story often.

      Here is a link to one broadcast from 11/2013:

      http://kboo.fm/content/paulrolandtalkswithnuclearengineerarnoldgundeersenab

      At 3:30 he says Fuku is on par with Chernobyl
      He knows it's much worse. Minimization

      At 24:10 he admits he told people not to take the iodine pills at the time – Claims the concentrations too small for concern, which is not true. Minimization plus he allowed people to be damaged.

      At 39:40 he says he bought some salmon and had it tested and says the salmon is squeaky clean. His little bit of store bought salmon is not sufficient to tell people salmon is squeaky clean. He is aware that but is misleading people that the danger is not here.

      At 45:15 he says he know of no published studies showing contaminated tuna. This is a cleaver move to deceive and minimize. They may not have been published as a study but others tested tuna and found contamination. This information was published but not as a "study" and was well known.

      Good old Arnie wants to bury the reactors and walk away for 100 years for example.

      Arnie is in it for Arnie. He also works to minimize the perceived affect on the US. He only comes out with statements after the real activist have done the work and convinced people. Then Arnie show up and simply repeats what is already accepted.

      Arnie never mentions the coriums being in the ground (or even the possibility).

      We would be better off in Arnie disappeared and others…


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  • Tiza Tiza

    Oh, make sure that you're putting enough of that tasty Cesium-137 on my fish, please. Yum….yum!


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  • mayibfrank

    Sampling fish that came on the market?

    "Hillary Clinton signed a pact with Japan that she agreed there is no problem with Japanese food supply and we will continue to buy them so we are not sampling food coming in from Japan"AG

    The fish showing up in markets could be from right off the fuku coast.
    http://www.examiner.com/article/radiating-americans-fukushima-rain-clinton-s-secret-food-pact


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    • We Not They Finally

      It's amazing that she and Obama, who have both had "first daughters," are just fine with Japan, and then the most iconic first daughter, Caroline Kennedy, gets sent to be poisoned in Japan.

      Do you think that they would sanction Chelsea and Malia and Sasha going there, even for a visit? Crap, no.

      This is all about "trade"? Some of these people trade their very souls — and for what?


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  • coffeebolus

    PEACE To all ENENewsers!

    I have been enjoying this forum for the past 2 months. I have certainly been made aware of the epic disaster unfolding in the Pacific, due to Fukushima.

    As another poster recently wrote, "Fish is a four letter word."
    This saddens me. Thanks to all here who are doing their part in exsposing the horror of nuclear energy.
    Peace-
    Tim in Okc


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Kathryn A. Higley

    http://ne.oregonstate.edu/content/kathryn-higley

    The journalist is spelling her name wrong..


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Fukushima Daiichi Panel Discussion
    ASME Board of Nuclear Codes and Standards

    Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:00 PM – 5:00 PM

    http://calendar.oregonstate.edu/event/92070/

    There will be no answers coming ..from Oregon State..


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  • Sol Man

    How convenient; fish caught are precooked.


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  • Here is a collection of recent data on fresh and ocean water contamination at/from Fukushima

    http://majiasblog.blogspot.com/2014/02/contaminated-water-at-fukushima-daiichi.html


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  • We Not They Finally

    Check on who FUNDS Kathryn Higley. There have been reports on her before. She is one of the "experts" who lies about and downplays everything.

    Let her eat fish.


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  • weegokiburi weegokiburi

    "a level at or below the natural compliment"
    ? below? That's clever.
    Saved!


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  • Nick

    I hate to be a TATAL taler, but Fukushima's goodies are toxic at the atomic level, TATAL.

    No spin can erase this truth.

    The natural compliment is a meaningless phrase developed for obfuscation of the masses.

    Cesium is toxic. P E R I O D.


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  • Daisy207

    And where is the table that shows the levels detected? Did they test for Strontium? Tritium? Uranium? How many samples were collected? What lab analyzed them? What units are the results being reported in? How many people are sick from historical cesium from nuclear testing? Look up the condition known as Chromosome 22 Deletion – has long been suspected as being a result of radiation exposure from nuclear testing. Feed this guy some kool aid made with Fukushima water from one of those wells on the site.


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    • Johnny Blade

      @Daisy207;+311!! ; Does anyone remember when I posted what I'd seen while waiting for my spouses oncologist in the waiting room and I bumped the mouse on the PC and the sealed portion of my wifes medical file was on the screen? I remember enough to have dejavu when "Chromosome 22" was mentioned above! "Patient Sandra ____ diagnosed with Advanced Inflammatory Breast Cancer HER-2 Stage 3B in left breast and 7 lymph nodes. Indications are DNA markers p21,"p22",d23 suggesting exposure to ENVIRONMENTAL POLLUTANT" !! :| I wish I could find my old posts that I included that info in but I'm not that slick with computer stuff. I think this is damning evidence that nuclear crap from fukushima and/or the 11 spewing shitium piles in IL caused OUR suffering and despite going through the worst crap anyone could imagine even without being in the middle of the 5 yr cancer treatment plan,I don't want their dirty compensation money IF they even admitted guilt & offered it! I want something else and you guys will KNOW what that is when my wife dies and I have nothing left to lose because my bucket list is short and there's nothing "nice" on it except for a sense of closure for me,my wife and ALL of their victims! If there's just ONE promise that I SWEAR to keep no matter what,this is IT!!


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      • or-well

        JOHNNY BLADE – it was Nov 18, 2012, on a thread called "Scientists: The very lowest levels of radiation are harmful to life"


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      • Homolumina Homolumina

        Much Love your way Johnny, I wish I could give everybody here a hug…


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      • Daisy207

        I know a lot about the deletion syndrome – my son has it. Numerous symptoms as a child including heart murmor (VSD which closed as he aged), flat feet, deviated septum, numerous other stuff but at age 24 – schizoaffective disease. A doctor in Canada told me about the connection to nuclear testing and the deletion. I was born in 1948 – in the 50's and 60's we did the duck and cover routine in school. The testing was going on in Nevada and I'm sure Indiana and its farm lands were very polluted with the fall out – along with all the other industrial chemicals that GM dumped into the ground in Anderson, Indiana where i grew up. GM closed all those plants (19 in all) just BEFORE the hazardous waste laws went into effect in 1980 and turned all the land over to the town for $1 with their active cyanide lagoons and chemical pits. The towns population dropped in half. Today the main industry in the town consists of two cancer centers. The water supply is in karst topography – underground caves and streams – with all that GM pollution running through it + the fallout from nuclear testing. It's no wonder I was genetically affected by what I was exposed to growing up. I also have an auto immune disease – Hyper IgE – which causes asthma and constant infections that I have to fight. My prayers are with you and your wife. Hugs to both of you.


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        • Johnny Blade

          Thank you Daisy207,Homolumina,VanneV,or-well and whoever I might miss. Things are falling into place and the pieces of the puzzle that the team of Dr.'s treating Sandy have ever disclosed or found in their "sealed" inter-departmental files & memo's without getting direct answers to questions & concerns that I sensed made them nervous & uncomfortable for reasons that seem more obvious now but still don't find me blaming them or to stop trusting them with her life!(which I hope remains the case!)She's had severe asthma since birth & after having our only child together at 19 she gained weight that is attributed to metabolism/thyroid issues rather than an eating disorder.After 5 near-death asthma/pneumonia bouts the scar tissue from intubations left her options for the next one having to use pediatric tubing if tubing becomes necessary. She suddenly began having seizures & syncope episodes in mid to late 2011 and her stage 3B IBC was suspected by her PCP on Valentine's day2012 & confirmed diagnosis & Chemo began on 3/1/2012 :( They had been pushing for her to have preventative surgery including removal of her remaining breast,suspect lymph nodes & now her ovaries(?)pending genetic testing that was inconclusive but I do recall the word "somatic"(?) as a possibility related to her cause or status of the cancer(not sure what it means though?She has been having slurred,delayed speech,eye twitching,dizzy,confusion,dementia-type emo outbursts & severe depression & lymphodema…


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          • Johnny Blade

            getting worse now even with a compression sleeve & weekly PT. If that wasn't bad enough I have to be here for her 24/7 and everything I mentioned & then some has left our credit ruined with evictions & judgements including the loss of our driers licenses,hers for seizures and mine for unpaid fines & an ancient failure to have car tested for emissions but I risk losing the only thing left worth a little bit of money to get her to her Dr.'s and pharmacies & to her church when she's able & has refills for her portable O2 tanks. We have to get by on her SSI/disability stipend of $855 a month before co-pays,transportation costs & basic living costs nearly wipe it out and we left a stable,secure living arrangement to help her family member care for her own cancer-stricken late-husband which had me tending to BOTH he & my wife until he died in home-hospice last Sept The rest of the story is too hard for me to relate & it hurt my wife so deeply her recovery has been set back & is sicker now as we suddenly find ourselves having been skipped out on & holding the bag on a foreclosed mobile home we have to vacate unexpectedly by March 1st. Sandy will probably have to go into a nursing home while our dog & I reside in our jeep until something encouraging happens(?). I wasn't going to set this stuff out but I want it known that the impacts of 311 nuke crap goes FAR beyond Japan's exclusion zone! Sorry for being OT.I'll figure something out though,I always do! :) TAKE CARE ALL!


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            • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

              JohhnyB….sending you and yours love and I hope that something positive will come into your lives. :-)


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            • VanneV VanneV

              Johnny, I so sorry that you and your wife are going through all that. You are in my prayers and I hope things turn around and get better. It is painful enough without all the financial worries. Hugs and kisses and take care.


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            • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

              "I wasn't going to set this stuff out but I want it known that the impacts of 311 nuke crap goes FAR beyond Japan's exclusion zone! " It's important for folks to hear these things. It's a form of communication that spurs one to action. What you're going through I consider a form of "violence" some here are evidently incapable of comprehending. Sorry to hear you'll be homeless. I hope it's warm where you are. I know most of what you're going through and more than once. I'm thankful for the health of my family; which today is tantamount to being fattened for the slaughter. I've whored for the banksters of Wall St. and of course earned a significant income while having my humanity boiled away inside a pressure cooker sparring with the most egocentric, narcissist, passive-aggressive bastards you can imagine. When the insanity reached a level that made me hate my job and then myself, I rebelled and paid a serious price. I relate more now to the street and those that reside there, than I do to my former professional life. I can handle it though. But you want to know what I can't handle? The coldness displayed by people, who are themselves, not to far from living the lives of "those" people they dismiss with increasing prejudice. I wish to God I could have been there to help Kelly Thomas. I watch that video and hear his cries for help, over and over, as the people stood and stared. Sorry to ramble… stay safe my friend.


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              • Johnny Blade

                Thanks everyone! I didn't plan on putting the last personal portion out here but today everything is kinda sinking in and getting under my skin. Not surprisingly though considering the news rolling in lately doesn't exactly offer much hope of a future even without all my own drama including the prospects for my spouses recovery seem grim even without 311/Fukushima,WIPP and whatever else must SURELY have happened,is happening,or surely WILL adding to the odds stacked against her & all the people I care about including all of you! I've been the one rambling though(SW)& I apologize! I guess the feeling that I might not make it back out here at any given time whether personal "meltdowns" or the ones we can count on from the nuke-pukes toys are behind my trying to cram my 2cents about EVERYTHING into every damned comment box I start typing in??!!lol,idk,but I'm probably gonna be MIA for a bit soon until I get my shitium together & sort through another fine mess I've gotten myself into! NYUK,NYUK,NYUK! ;) lol My wife seems better in the last few hours since I was last trippin' so I'm able to "check my emotions at the door" again for now & be grateful that @ 1 day at a time-I still got a roof overhead & a bed tonight with 7 more "lives" to go and I haven't forgotten that there's plenty of people who do not! I appreciate all of you and wish for nothing but the best for you! THANKS for being friends :)


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                • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

                  Allow me to speak to you a tenet of my faith; Before you were born I new thee; And when you born I sanctified thee.

                  Everything is not by chance my friend. You are here, according to a plan; great or small, it does not matter. Each has their place and their purpose. Revel in this. :-)


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                • bo bo

                  Johnny Blade, I am so sorry about all this which you do not deserve at all. But think about Kevin Blanch… he had a miracle recovery from a 1 % chance of recovery from a rare type of leukemia. . anti nukists have have special guardian angels. The harder we fight the more we are protected….! I know that you have been active locally in the anti nuclear movement… Don't give up, and please keep posting! My thoughts and prayers are with you and your wife.

                  Much love – Bo


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  • Cdog

    I visualize being bombarded with the electric voltage from potassium 40 is like being shot with a nerf gun, while the corisponding energy from plutonium 239 is like being bombarded with a AK-47!
    Zero comparison and Higley knows this if she's a nuclear professor. Obvious misinformation to anyone that has the most basic understanding of nuclear physics. Beware Higley, you are now an accomplice to the murder odf everybody and everything.


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  • Nick

    When atoms decay, get out of the way.

    The energy from a decaying atom is not okay in any amount.

    Doesn't matter what element, the decay chain yields all manner of zaps to our biology.

    ffttt. ssssttt zat!

    Not one atom of cesium is okay. Got it? Same with the others.


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  • Socrates

    Why are professors of nuclear engineering allowed to express opinions about the medical implications of vast releases of radionuclides on public health without being a medical doctor with training in toxicology, medicine and epidemiology? That is practicing medicine without a license. I intend to contact that university and complain that pushing the comparison of bananas to 134/137Cs is unethical. I will contact legislators to introduce legislation prohibiting this practice altogether. Baseless reassurance from non-licensed individuals about health issues increases exposures to children and pregnant women who are 1000 times mode vulnerable. The entire nuclear industry makes these erroneous comparisons. At a minimum, they should be subject to legal liability. The comparison is known to be fraudulent. This rely needs to be stopped.

    Any one who listens to Steven Starr's presentation about 137Cs will be angered by authorities allowing this academic fraud to continue.

    This academic and industry fraud has become one of most important consumer issues. It affects public health and safety to pimp for the nuclear industry. Writing to the university and the medical board is a place to start. If I recommend vitamins, I would be prosecuted, especially if I held a medical license. Small irony….


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    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      If one notices there have been very few Nuke Pukes present on this site and there is a very good reason for them not joining our educational party. :)

      Their argument for promoting and then supporting Nuclear Technologies is over. :)

      After posting real event timeline pictures/images of the devastation created by Nuclear Technologies to humans and other biological life, there is nothing more them to say, and yes, it is evident now that the entire Nuclear Industry needs to be shut down very quickly worldwide! :)

      The above pictures/images tell the entire very sad 70 year Nuclear Technology story line. :(

      Cancers, deformities and related diseases are now rampant worldwide from their current 70 year old industry practice! :(


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    • Homolumina Homolumina

      Thank you Socrates, as always you have a valid point and an intelligent approach – I will put this issue into my letter too !


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    • combomelt combomelt

      socrates, TY.

      couldn't have said it any better. And, what you say, should be law like being prosecuted for vitamins…… ty again


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  • chevvvy chev

    sowassa matter??? ….Sarc
    coriums in fish, is prolly no worse than mercury!!
    for the fish anyway.
    What is coriums natural compliment,? anyway
    maybe its the surface of the ocean, and the fish were found below that, so thats alright!!
    Boy Im glad they didnt catch any of those fish, above the ocean!


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    What ever is experienced by all those now traveling thousands of miles up in the air, will also eventually be experienced by all those living on the ground.

    I believe we call such understandings the consequences of gravity! :(


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  • razzz razzz

    How man made nuclear fallout from nuke bomb testing morphs into natural background radiation, I'm not sure but if the natural compliment is matched by Daiichi's fallout then that is a doubling of background radiation. If the mad nuke scientist is only referring to ocean borne radiation, then that is a hell of a lot because most nuke bomb fallout traveled high into the atmosphere to continually washout for centuries.

    It has only been around 30 years since the last nuke bomb test created additional fallout (China testing in open air) but around 50 years of exposure to above ground testing fallout, on a 300 year timescale not counting Chernobyl's releases, this only a short period of time in half-life speak. The nuke radicals will point out decay rates halve by half by half, etc. which lessen the degree of exposure. I say kids are 20X more susceptible to radiation poisoning than adults, no mention of any dangers to children being exposed to Daiichi dusted sea foods. Collateral damage I suppose, best to be ignored when more than one industry's livelihood is at stake.

    'Fallout from Nuclear Weapons Tests and Cancer Risks
    Exposures 50 years ago still have health implications today that will continue into the future'
    http://www.americanscientist.org/issues/issue.aspx?id=982&y=0&no=&content=true&page=6&css=print


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  • or-well

    I've said it before,
    I'll say it again -
    Nukists fear no consequence
    for anything they say as spin,
    for publishing their pseudo-science,
    for lies of commission or omission,
    for pronouncing as fact their opinion
    even outside their specialisation,
    free to brush off criticism,
    unconcerned with retribution.
    It doesn't hamper their careerism
    as peers seem to lack the intention
    to practise social ostracism
    and when within the legal system
    have they encountered prosecution
    for opinionated expression
    of "educated speculation"?
    They're unconcerned with religion
    branding as Abomination
    their adherence to the Cult of Nukism
    so it rather begs the questions;
    is it a matter of education,
    working with the existing system
    or is vigilantism a solution
    or will it take a revolution?


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    • SadieDog

      "The following disease agents, some of which cause ulcerative skin disease in marine animals, have been screened for and ruled out as possible causes: Calicivirus, Morbillivirus, Pan-Picornavirus, Herpesvirus, Papillomavirus, Poxvirus, Parapoxvirus, Vesicular Stomatitis Virus, Foot and Mouth Disease, Circovirus, Influenza A/B, Adenovirus, Coronavirus, Enterovirus, Flavivirus, Orbivirus, Orthohepadnavirus, Paramyxovirus, Rhabdovirus, and Papovavirus."


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  • guevara3712

    this is totally off subject but i just learned that John Wayne was killed by nukes. i reckon i will shortly find out that everybody here already knew that, lol. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049092/trivia


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  • Ontological Ontological

    We blessed the last fish we ate. That was 5 years ago, almost 6. It was delicious, pre FUKU FU, and not one bite of anything from the ocean since.
    Sad note to watch in horror as these bastards destroy the world, and NOT ONE is in prison. Bait and switch…You go kill millions, and we will put this 84 year old NUN in for you. PATHETIC! NO respect to nuketards, NO respect for MONEYGRUBERS, NO respect for Earth trashers. NO respect for corporations. NO respect for governments ANYWHERE. Lets put Mr. CEO, Mr. President, Mr./Ms. Elected official in the microwave oven…ON HIGH! Better yet let's line the MOFO's up and make THEM work 3 entire DAYS in a bloody ROW at Fukushima Diachi One, sweeping up Co60 fragments, WITH ZERO PAY ZERO SLEEP, NO REST! My mother is about the age of that poor Nun. She would not live 3 years inside a prison. NO WAY! MAKE THOSE BASTARDS PAY!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-xMr6o3SDo


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    • GQR2

      Damn Craig Venter to hell a special hell an intergalactic forever hell. He brought Synthia to market.
      He is a mad scientist who must thinks he is god. Corexit. Just like David Keith with his aluminum barium and strontium spraying experiments. Karma will find them.

      These poor sea creatures.
      these poor sea creatures. They gave so much sustenance and joy. They do not deserve this. This is Karmatically such a scar on our species. How could it not be ? So sad.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKtozMvSsBk


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  • Capt. Nemo Capt. Nemo

    How many hours of American TV does a person need to watch before he or she realizes that Americans adore the Lie. I choose the word "adore" because there is certain religious tone in American life regarding America as a kind of holy land. News reporters and commentators have mastered the grave truth sound which they use when quite often repeating what they know well to be falsehood. They are the hosts smoothing things over, calming the troubled masses who may perchance have gotten their minds on the actual facts. So when it comes to something more than a little technical we should know by now that the ground is fertile for falsifications, obfuscations, etc.
    Now consider what the case would be if your endocrine system told lies to the nervous system? Or if your brain told lies to your feet. Flat on your face. If you eyes falsified where your hands were; and lied about an approaching vehicle. Maybe dead.
    So truth plays an important part second to second in our lives; yet for a variety of reasons in public life lies play the most important part. When the President lies, as we all know well that he does, well, we just accept it. Strange world.
    The faith really that a lie will somehow do a better job than the truth. And Fukushima, nuclear power is the current grand lie and will be so for years to come. At no point will the full truth ever be known. Strange world.


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    • amberlight amberlight

      That would be "nuclearmonia"


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    • Ontological Ontological

      It isn't just the big horns here. The sheeple here also have some kind of similar pneumonia like super bug. There is a huge anti smoking campaign going on, as people can't take the smoke inside and the garbage in the air outside also with whatever they have making them sick. They go inside the resorts for relief and they are assaulted by noxious tobacco fumes. The 'hack' is everywhere here now. Skull cancer recovery has been no fun amongst such mindless corporate idiots who only wish to now make EVERYONES lives miserable, just to cover their pathetic lies. Whilst the Governments I have to presume by now HAVE NO FRIGGING SCIENTIFIC CLUE HOW BAD THIS SHIT REALLY IS, sit on their elected asses excepting corporate buy offs, and generate bullshit propaganda excuses as to why they can't clean up their acts. Would it not be cheaper just to print up the propaganda fliers first, & not print more money to pay for them? Draconian political practices are getting BORING. There is no escaping NWO fascism now however. Why? Because it's Templar mateys". We be sailin' on the Devil's cruise ship. Arrrr.


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  • amberlight amberlight

    From the link Heart of the Rose posted — http://ne.oregonstate.edu/content/kathryn-higley (thanks, Rose), this tidbit:

    "environmental health physicist at the Hanford Nuclear Reservation"

    In other words, this nuclear whore had first hand experience examining the effects of the ongoing Hanford Site crimes against humanity and nature, but is still walking the streets for the nuclear pimps!

    Some people sell their souls to the devil, but some have no souls to sell…


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  • amberlight amberlight

    Then there is this news item demonstrating what happens to those who act with integrity:

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/whistle-blower-fired-hanford-nuclear-site-22568963

    Donna Busche is out of a job for telling the truth, but Kathryn Higley is given air time to spread her web of lies and obfuscation.

    Note to self: Tell Molly Seder to give Donna Busche equal time!


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    FACTS FROM THE TESTING . . .

    Fish caught off the West Coast, to be taken to market for consumption, contains radiation from Fukushima.


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  • rockyourworld

    spreading pro-american propaganda? is that even possible at this stage in the game?


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  • Lastly, the CEMRC provides a free service (lung and whole body counting) to adult citizens living within a 100-mile radius of the WIPP facility whereby concerned citizens are measured to see what radiation may exist in their lungs and whole body. This service can be obtained by scheduling an appointment with the CEMRC Internal Dosimetry lab at (575) 234-5530. For more information regarding CEMRC or the findings from the most recent event, contact Dr. Russell Hardy, Director at (575) 234-5555 or visit CEMRC’s website at http://www.cemrc.org .


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  • Antirads

    I think at this point if people want to be safe about the situation they can go to http://pwc2.com/b2t and get one of their radiological water filters, otherwise there is not much else you can do, obviously try and avoid the food from the pacific too, but after that id just carry on with life and not worry about it, nothing you can do or others, we just have to hope for the people there to do their best


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  • unincredulous unincredulous

    See also: More US tuna contaminated — Study: Entire food web "including humans" may be affected as Fukushima radionuclides spread to West Coast

    "[...] By predicting the radio-biologic stress (if any) for a managed species as more Fukushima-related radionuclides are uptaken, appropriate action may be taken before significant population effects have occurred. Determination of natural background concentrations and high quality transport models produced from these data also aid in management in the event of a future accidental release, and in regulating safe activity releases."

    "[...] appropriate action may be taken before significant population effects have occurred."????? Like what, exactly, retroactively shutting down all nuclear power plants? This isn't a Star Trek movie, OSU! You can't go back in time and save the whales. Not an option.


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  • Nick

    There is no turning back.

    We can magically wish away all the accumulated crap of weapons and energy generation but that ain;t gonna happen.

    That stuff doesn't get better with age.

    The rotten nuclear industrial complex has sealed our fate, even if they try and cannisterize the lot.

    The atoms of death seek their prey.

    Think slow motion wreck.

    We can't fast forward this flick, we can't pause it, we can't erase it, we can't really even edit it.

    Fukushima is just a large concentration of the idiocy that infected our planet.

    The infection will last a very, very long time.


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    • unincredulous unincredulous

      Always look on the bright side. No one will be feeling us up at airports or drug testing people to get a job as a toilet bowl cleaner. The NSA won't be spying on us and telling their well connected friends about our new inventions. The police won't be tasering deaf people for warnings spoken behind their backs. There will be no more problems because everyone will be dead. But it will get worse before it gets better and all that happens.


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  • ioff101der

    I think we should have a new designation for the killing power of radiation: The Beq… "banana equivalent quantity". It probably wouldn't confuse things any more that TEPCO and our covernment is doing now.


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  • Elmer Fud

    TO MUCH RADIATION EXPOSURE MAKES YOU GO NUTS!

    Ionizing radiation acts like super powerful free radials, get the right dosage and you go INSANE while you silently die.

    Could it be that Dr. Higley has gotten a bit too much exposure to remain sane.


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  • Elmer Fud

    Don't forget …

    Obama and family were hiding out in BRAZIL when the radiation cloud from Fukushima 3/11 floated over the northern hemisphere.


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