Nuclear Safety Expert: “Many experts are extremely concerned we could have additional releases” at Fukushima plant — “Very, very unstable facility” (AUDIO)

Published: May 1st, 2013 at 9:49 am ET
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Title: Workers at Fukushima nuclear plant struggle to contain rush of contaminated water
Source: FSRN
Date: May 1, 2013

Dan Hirsch, a nuclear safety expert, president of the Committee to Bridge the Gap, and lecturer at the University of California, Santa Cruz: Many experts are extremely concerned that we could have additional releases.

This is a very, very unstable facility.

Very, very damaged with people working in extraordinary high radiation fields trying to repair it.

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Published: May 1st, 2013 at 9:49 am ET
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43 comments to Nuclear Safety Expert: “Many experts are extremely concerned we could have additional releases” at Fukushima plant — “Very, very unstable facility” (AUDIO)

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Uncontrolled nuclear material follows predictable scientific activity patterns.

    Nuclear melt-down.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_meltdown

    Funny..how most of us know..when a car..qualifies for being 'totaled".
    Yet millions of people watched the explosions at Fukushima..and fail to see the same.

    Explosion reactor 1

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psAuFr8Xeqs

    Explosion reactor 3.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haUawwm7l4k


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    • Sol Man

      I am curious of what the vast amounts of particulate matter in the smoke was ejected into the air at the moment of these two events?
      The event continues as more particles are irrradiated as they pass by.
      We understand that the world is in trouble.


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      • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

        Mystery Black Substance with very high rads has been found along roadways all over central Japan, Sol Man.
        http://enenews.com/strange-pieces-highly-radioactive-mystery-black-substance-cling-magnet-video
        Probably rained down as soot, both from the explosions, and from smoke from the ruins, and from corium burning in the ground.


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        • hbjon hbjon

          Perhaps it is from truck tires that wear off material to the roadways? That material may have an affinity to uranium and other toxic substances that are falling out of the sky.


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          • Time Is Short Time Is Short

            It's a cyanobacteria that feeds on radioactivity, like how mushrooms gather unusually high concentrations of rads. Dormant since the days when the earth was radioactive, and now unleashed.

            It's all over the Hawai'ian coral, too. As the rad levels increase worldwide, this bacteria will awaken and spread.

            The beginning of the end of all life on earth.


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        • vital1 vital1

          I was sent this resin encapsulated sample of black fungus like material. It has reportedly come from somewhere in the Minamisoma area Japan. A contact in Japan sent enenews forum member Spectrometising this sample.This my test chart of it. For those of you who have not looked at a chart like this before. The position of the peaks in a the chart indicate what isotopes are present.

          http://sccc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Minamisoma-Cesium-290313-TV45-23c-25040-MB.jpg

          This fungus started growing on the concrete, and rock surfaces in Japan after the Fukushima Nuclear disaster. It appears to be bio-accumulating Cesium.

          Scintillators are less sensitive as you go to higher energy keV. The Theremino MCA software allows you to increase the magnification of the higher energy peaks. The peaks in this Theremino MCA V4.5 software chart have been energy compensated, to bring out the smaller details at higher energies. The sample very small, grams or less.

          A professional lab reported test results 117 Bg Cs-137 and 58 Bq Cs-134.
          I don't know the exact weight. Spectrometising is trying to find out.


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          • vital1 vital1

            This comment was posted on a forum discussing this test.

            “I’m an expert on weighing objects (sell scales, use different ones daily, some precise to .01g). Fungus in that form does not appear to hold too much water weight and would likely weigh less than a gram given the scale. If it jis thin and flakey type fungus, it may be under .25-.5g. Is it thick like a mushroom cap or more like lichen? I’ve only observed extremely thin fungi growing on concrete, and I would err on the very low side. My best guess is .3g.”

            My reply

            That means the black fungus sample from Japan is very, very, hot.

            Test results 117 Bg Cs-137 and 58 Bq Cs-134

            117 + 58 = 175 Bq x (1000 grams/0.3 grams) = 583,333 Bq/Kg of Cesium

            Even if it was 10 times greater in weight 3 grams, it would still be 58,333 Bq/Kg of Cesium.

            There is no copyright placed on the chart screen shot, so you can copy it, and make use of it where ever you like.


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            • vital1 vital1

              Get the message out there on how serious the Fukushima nuclear disaster is quickly, and efficiently. You don’t need to explain anything just distribute the lifesaver.pdf or create your own, hand it out, mailbox it, or email it.

              http://technologypals.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/lifesaver.pdf


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              • papacares papacares

                most excellent series of posts vital1

                would be interesting to learn the amount of
                increase in area year over year from 3/11 or has
                it been found throughout the island? also density may
                reveal the direction of contamination flow and spread through various carriers other than wind and rain – great work, thank you


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              • We Not They Finally

                Thank you for caring. We talk with people randomly here and there, even people we never before met. It's amazing how many people know that something is terribly wrong, especially (maybe surprisingly) YOUNG people. But information hasn't been coming to them, and life these days seems to demand the likes of more work hours with less pay. But everyone should try.


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              • We Not They Finally

                You remember the beatles here comes the sun.After Obama sends nuclear waste to the sun..It will be there goes the sun…Who needs the sun anyway….


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          • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

            "The black fungus…appears to be bio-accumulating Cesium." Vital1
            So, this fungus metabolizes cesium. The radiation doesn't destroy the cells, or the DNA? How strange. There will be life left on Earth after humanity perishes, at least. And some lifeform similar to humanity may re-evolve on Earth at some far future date. Many thanks for sharing the test results, Vital1. :)


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    • Jay

      Hear of the Rose , I don't activate Active Scripting so I can't watch UTube or similar formats . Can you please help to create a movement agains the Active Scripting ? EX-SKF does show UTube videos that Can be watched with Active Sripting turned off .

      Now …

      Explosion # 1 shows the vertical going shock wave very clearly And very Cleanly : there are no debris flying Up with the shock wave , meaning that the explosion happened Above the Roof , in Open Windy air that should not allow for the lighter-than-air hydrogen to Concentrate at such levels as to have that Detonatin power to flaten the reinforced concrete roof and walls … the material 'fairy-tales' are made of …

      Explosion # 2 shows how an Internal / inside explosion looks like , a 'dirty' vertical shock wave carryin a lot of debris .

      So , that's what I see … what did You see ?


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    • mairs mairs

      "Funny..how most of us know..when a car..qualifies for being 'totaled".
      Yet millions of people watched the explosions at Fukushima..and fail to see the same."

      Rose, I post on Huffington Post. I remember very clearly all the nuclear industry talking points that came out immediately after every development at Fukushima. The explosions were explained as not serious at all. "The wall panels are designed to blow out like that. "The explosions are minor, just releases of hydrogen."

      I'm a layperson and I was half believing them in the beginning. A lot of what they were saying was clearly manipulative nonsense, but I wanted to believe that they were telling the truth about the explosions. I really wanted to.


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  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    No surprises here, as this has been the case right along.
    TEPCO is putting in less and less money,
    The plant ruins are essentially open to the air.
    Containments1,2,&3 are breached, and no longer hold water.
    Basements, on the other hand, are still full of water, which is not able to be pumped out (limited storage).
    Coriums1,2,&3 are well out of reach, and there is no plan to locate or do anything about them.
    Earthquakes and corium fissures have made the ground under the plant unstable, with Unit4 sinking.
    SFP1,2,3,&4 are under tenuous control, with truck mounted switchgear operating pumps and temporary pipes.
    Only SFP3&4 now have covers.
    SFP4 will begin to be emptied in 2013 and 2014.
    SFP1,2,&3 will begin to be emptied sometime in the future.
    Radiation in holding pond water breaks seams and destroys materials, causing leaks and spills.
    TEPCO wants to dump contaminated water into the ocean, but the government won't let them (wink, wink).
    Top managers come and go, with a new boss starting in June, 2013.
    Workers are hard to find, get little training, and even less supervision.
    Workers seem to be involved mostly with getting into and out of their radiation suits, and being tested for rads.
    Workers spend much of their workday getting bussed to and from the NPP.
    When the workers get sick or injured, they are simply let go, since they are mostly subcontracted out.
    Yes, I would call this a very very unstable facility.


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    • VanneV anne

      There's not going to be anyone alive in the future to work on this mess.


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      • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

        Yes, anne, having no workers at all is very much worse than having the few workers they now throw at the problem.
        TEPCO is loosing the battle.
        They cannot even keep their jury-rigged temporaty systems operating.
        Things do seem to be spinning out of control at Fukushima.

        And things will certainly get worse as Japan's long-term population decline, turns into a population crash.
        Japan is toast. So sad. :(


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    • Nice summary PhUN.

      They now admit an even more horrible accident could happen there any time. Earthquakes seem to be increasing, but I'll have to check this [someone here will know].

      The comments below on Tokyo are worrisome.


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  • weeman

    I guess that the contamination that is destroying the pacific ocean does not count as additional release as that is a continuous release, I do not have a PHD, I don't need one to know that we have and will have further releases of contamination any one with a grade 9 education knows that, tell us something we don't know and be a human being and put your reputation on the line and stop being a sniffling weak minded minon.


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    • VanneV anne

      Who are you addressing your remarks to?


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      • VanneV anne

        I guess you are talking to Dan Hirsch. It isn't as he says, we could have additional releases. We have been having continual radiation releases since 3/11 and they will continue ad infinitum. It isn't, hey, we must do something before there are no more releases, but the releases are continuous because only idiots are in power and nuclear reactions can never be contained. So why keep mining for uranium and continually creating more nuclear reactors? This system is bankrupting the world's economies and making it uninhabitable for ever.

        And now they are privatizing water? So people will have to pay huge amounts for radiation contaminated water instead of radiation contaminated food? There will soon be no one left alive to steal from. These plutocrats don't seem to realize the choices poverty stricken people have. Kill the goose and there are no more golden eggs.


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  • Shouldn't EVERYONE be 'extremely' concerned?


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  • hbjon hbjon

    Currently, getting a reading of 24CPM. That is a high normal background here. This test was of precip swipe of the hood. Normal swipes this year have been between 70 and 120CPM. This test is in the northern plains USA. Outdoor temp of 32 F. with partially frozen precip. Just a little surprising so thought I would post.


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  • razzz razzz

    Repair it? They can't even contain it.


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  • harengus_acidophilus

    "we could have additional releases"

    Additional to the ongoing releases?

    Hm, … in NPPs they remove the fuel right in time to prevent a bildup of higher transuranic elements, wich are also fissionable but in a uncontrollable (unknown) way. And in the coriums (coria?), the breeding process continues and will reach "uncharted territory". If you look in a physicists book in the "table of critical masses" you will find for the higher transuranics lower masses to reach criticality.
    This stuff gets hotter "as times go by", on the other hand
    it will be "diluted" (what an euphemistic phrase) we will see…
    It's "uncharted Territory" and the bridges behind us are broken. And in the same way the "nuke-devils"
    will tell us: "Let's explore this! Humans first …"

    It's hopeless.

    Sadly to say, I expect more nasty surprises from this "event".
    For sure.

    h.


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    • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

      "Approximately 600 to 860 milligrams of matter in the [Little Boy] bomb was converted into the active energy of heat and radiation (see mass–energy equivalence for detail). It exploded with an energy of 16 kilotons of TNT…It has been estimated by neutral sources that 90,000–166,000 people [in Hiroshima, Japan] had died as a result of its use by the end of December 1945".
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Boy
      harengus_acidophilus, there has been some discussion here of the physics within the corium. Molten elements, some conjectured, could sort themselves by atomic weight, easily reaching critical mass, producing an explosion that would involve (touch off) the explosion of neighboring elements. But this appears not to have happened, although some have identified earthquakes in the immediate area as "corium quakes". Instead, the corium seems merely to be releasing into the Pacific Ocean (from below) increasing amounts of radioactivity as time goes on. Some hold that the temperature of the cirium reached 5,000C. The smoke and steam we have seen rising from the ground between Units1,2,3,&4 may be coming from very small amounts of corium remnants left behind by the exiting cirium mass. As we see in the case of "Little Boy", there is a great amount of energy released when even a tiny amount of matter is converted into energy.
      Interesting discussion. Any additional thoughts?


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Fukushima Daiichi is getting worse, as proven by increased fallout readings in Tokyo, and in soil at the site.


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  • many moons

    With the containment broken, cracked or blown apart how could we have anything but continued releases???…for forever…or until someone comes up with a new way to contain the as of right now uncontainable.


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  • This is the top threat to all our lives.

    Urgent White House help to Japan must have the highest priority.

    See http://www.aesopinstitute.org

    Scroll down a few pages for a few things you might do…


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    • pcjensen

      Mark, do you have an inside line to the White House? I ask because there've been petitions, requests, demands, and questions about response sent to the WH, O, and others since 311 activists saw there was no real effective response occurring, let alone news on the critical nature of this catastrophe. And, nothing substantial has come forth from the big house. Boxer and a few others are startled enough abut San Onofre to enact greater oversight and demand answers and a few other legislators have questioned Fukushima, but, here we are…still waiting for all the big light bulbs to turn on.

      By the way, I really appreciate http://www.aesopinstitute.org Thank You.


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  • moonshellblue moonshellblue

    Here is the pro nuke video from the head of the World Nuclear Association the lies spewing from this man are as toxic as the disasters he claims "have not caused a single fatality with the exception of the 16 firefighters at Chernobyl." The information on this video is outrageous and full of downright lies but anyone who is against nuclear power should watch this, know thy enemy. http://youtu.be/UzTB0iX5mzg


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