Published: June 26th, 2012 at 8:47 pm ET
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Japan Reactor Building is Tilting But Is Not a Risk, Operator Says
New York Times
By HIROKO TABUCHI
June 26, 2012
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Tepco, said in a report on Monday to Japanese nuclear regulators that at least two of the walls of the No. 4 reactor building are bulging outward at various points and that the building is tilting.
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The latest findings could add to concerns over the state of the No. 4 reactor building
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Some experts say that the building [...] is not strong enough to support the fuel pool, especially if another earthquake hits the region.
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other experts warn against removing fuel rods too hastily, which might pose its own risks.
h/t Anonymous tip
Published: June 26th, 2012 at 8:47 pm ET
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Oh, I doubt anything could add to the concerns I already have.
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right comment!
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Did you see these? Incredible stuff going on at daiichi
Making matters worse at Fukushima 6-26-12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHNScctMcQ0
Fuku F#@$ UP {excuse my language please}: http://youtu.be/yVrnpUBYL0Q via @youtube
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Good clips. Thanks Whoopie.
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Initially it looks like steam/smoke from the reactor SPF floor level, but later it can be seen to follow the crane boom.
So that looks like a demolition tool at work on the end of the crane. Jack hammer and crush jaws. The dust seems only to come from where the tool is working.
Heaven help anything down wind tho, as if a little more will make much difference. Sad.
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In fact I've seen that digger they're using for the demolition before. Its a remote controlled unit.
So they've dropped that remote controlled digger onto the reactor room floor (L3?) and its demolishing the trashed concrete columns and walls above that floor level. No wonder they put that solid lid above the spent fuel pond. End of this they will have a clean deck to work on, and probably room to put up some rails for a new crane to extract the fuel rods all separately supported.
Maybe some real progress. Time will tell!
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Nigwil sez: "In fact I've seen that digger they're using for the demolition before. Its a remote controlled unit."
SP: Thanks…I wondered if they had somebody on oxygen inside the cab!
That news doesn't make me feel like they have any better control over saving the integrity of the remaining walls by using crane cameras and waldo controls.
As I said I think they needed several of the big diggers…one to grab and stabilize a column and one to chomp.
I sure hope they don't collapse the building, but if it does…
C'est la vie!
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i hear you guys on the remote controlled crane idea.
but i tend to think someone was in the cabin. the speed and dexterity with which the heavy equipment moved around would not be easy when done remotely.
really, that must have been a massive crane, it has to be one of the biggest, comparing it to the size of the building and how visible it was over the long distance of the JBS cam.
i watched the event live, it really was astounding sometimes how fast they moved (they must have known they had a time limit). I even wonder if they swapped operators during the process, to keep dosage to a limit.
in short, i'd be impressed if it really was remotely operated.
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You could be right Richard, it certainly moved fast. I guess the operators were only there for the time it took to get their lifetime radiation doses, then a Hero of the Soviet Union medal for them – oops its Japan isn't it. They don't have any radiation problems do they, let alone recognition of the efforts of their suicide squads. Just another day on the job then.
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The biggest story in the history of mankind, and virtually no one's heard about it. And, full steam ahead on those 2 plants in Georgia and one in NC.
Is this a great country or what?
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I would wager anything that you are right!
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Truly insanity. When I try to talk to my friends, family and colleagues about it they look at me like I am nuts and tell me they do not want to hear about it. WTF is wrong with people.
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Of course it's "not a risk." All the bulges and tilting are "within acceptable limits" … just like the fish and vegetables and rice from Fukushima.
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Nuclear Power, Just like we're all on the Titanic, ice berg warning, never mind, FULL STEAM AHEAD! "within acceptable limits" this ship is unsinkable!
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if #4's ring torus caved-in from earthquake/fuel explo. event, the building sank into this cavity. or of course the plyons are bent or are shifted out of vertical. if it's only bent or displaced columns, reinforecment is relatively simple. if it sank into the collapsed torus, reinforcement is difficult. the first thing they should do is put angled braces around the outside of the building.
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I wonder what type of structure is being fabricated offsite to deal with the fuel removal? It will be fascinating to see what comes out of the brainstorming.
The engineering and logistics challenges behind all of this are extraordinary. Especially considering the dangers of the operating environment and the fact that they will doing the assembly work with far fewer workers than you would normally have on a construction site.
Modular building systems I supposed. Lots of pre-assembly and delivery by barge.
Has anyone seen any of what they have planned beyond the simple renderings of the outside of the building?
Thanks.
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It's TEPCO. They will simply pick up the spent fuel, throw it into a dump truck, and take to Tokyo to be burned. The drivers will be listening to old Cheech and Chong tapes so they will be smiling all the way to the incinerator so there is absolutely no chance they can be hurt by the radiation.
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KEPCO Can't Find Photos of Fault at
Ooi Nuclear Power Plant, But NISA Says No Problem
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2012/06/kepco-cant-find-photos-of-fault-at-ooi.html
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"KEPCO says 'We're looking for the photographs but we can't find them'." MIA. Kinda reminds me of when W couldn't find the WMDs.
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the very first money is spent at last! (first in U.S.) agate beach oregon is spending $84,956 dollars to remove that old fuku barge that washed up there. that same amount of money spent on feeding homeless folks would have provided 16,991 $5 dollar meals.
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BUT, last month they swore the building is not tilting, because the water in the pool was level.
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Hey everyone! Don't worry, be happy! Not everyone gets, in their lifetime, to experience a PLANETARY CATASTROPHE that will (sooner or later)kill all life as we know it.
Instead pay attention to what the MSM wants you to pay attention to, celebrity antics, sports, the latest fashions, weather related miseries, politics, etc.
Remember, nobody gets out of life alive.
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Yes, one could say that Death is part of Life's rich pattern. And a free ticket to the final show.
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Very sad to see the NYT's statement in the article about the consequences. "Damage to the pool or loss of cooling could lead the spent fuel to overheat, releasing large amounts of radiation into the environment, the experts warn" Oh yes and the loss of Japan as a habitable country, and major consequences world wide.
So so predictable and understated, everyone stay seated in your deck chairs that was only a minor collision with a large ice cube.
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