NYTimes: Doctors want ban on thyroid cancer screenings — “A tsunami of thyroid cancer… Stop the diagnosis… We need to actively discourage early detection” — WSJ: Judge rules nuclear reactors causing thyroid cancers — Study: Fukushima-related tumors can spread very fast, must be closely monitored

Published: November 7th, 2014 at 10:11 am ET


New York Times, Nov. 5, 2014 (emphasis added):  To the shock of many cancer experts, the most common cancer in South Korea… is now thyroid cancer, whose incidence has increased fifteenfold in the past two decades. “A tsunami of thyroid cancer,” as one researcher puts it… Cancer experts agree that the reason for the situation in South Korea and elsewhere is not a real increase in the disease. Instead, it is down to screening… “It’s a warning to us in the U.S. that we need to be very careful in our advocacy of screening,” said Dr. Otis W. Brawley, chief medical officer at the American Cancer Society… some doctors, including Dr. Hyeong Sik Ahn of the College of Medicine at Korea University in Seoul, the first author of the new paper, have called for thyroid cancer screening to be banned… Thyroid experts in the United States are calling for restraint in diagnosing and treating tiny tumors… Dr. R. Michael Tuttle… said the best way… was to “stop the diagnosisdecrease screening

New York Times Op-ed by H. Gilbert Welch, Nov. 5, 2014: An Epidemic of Thyroid Cancer [in South Korea]?Nowhere in the world is the rate of any cancer growing faster… Where did all those new thyroid cancers come from? They were always there. As early as 1947 [See: August 1945 atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, both ~150 miles from S. Korea] … thyroid cancer was a frequent finding during autopsies. Studies have since shown that over a third of adults have thyroid cancer… Even without a concerted effort to promote screening, thyroid cancer incidence in the United States is up threefold since 1975. To reverse this trend, we need to actively discourage early thyroid cancer detection… having doctors not look too hard for early cancer is in your interest… Too many epidemiologists concern themselves.. with hoping to find small health effects of environmental exposures — or worse, uncertain effects of minor genetic alterations.

Wall St. Journal, Oct 21, 2014: A South Korean court for the first time has ruled in favor of a plaintiff claiming… thyroid cancer was caused by radiation from six nuclear power plants located [5 miles] from her house… “She has lived within 10 km of the plants for over 20 years and has thus been exposed to radiation for a long time. Other than the radiation from the nuclear reactors, there’s no clear reason for her cancer,” the court said… [A] government-commissioned study in 2011… showed women living within 5 km of nuclear plants had 2.5 times higher incidences of thyroid cancer… [In a study of the plaintiff’s county by a] nuclear-power research institute… between July 2010 and December 2013, about 1.4%… were found to have thyroid cancer… in 2011 [women had] 114 cases out of 100,000 [0.11%].

UC San Francisco, Oct. 27, 2014: For the first time, researchers have found that exposure to radioactive iodine is associated with more aggressive forms of thyroid cancer… Lydia Zablotska, MD [said] “Our group has previously shown that exposures to [Chernobyl’s] radioactive iodine significantly increase the risk of thyroid cancer… The new study shows that radiation exposures are also associated with distinct clinical features that are more aggressive”… Zablotska said the findings have implications for those exposed to [Fukushima’s] radioactive iodine fallout... “children or adolescents to the fallout are at highest risk and should probably be screened for thyroid cancer regularly, because these cancers are aggressive, and they can spread really fast… Clinicians should be aware of the aggressiveness of radiation-associated tumors and closely monitor those at high risk.”… radioactive iodine [exposures] are associated with a whole spectrum of thyroid diseases… Thyroid cancer is ordinarily rare among children, with less than one new case per million diagnosed each year… [In the study] researchers diagnosed 158 thyroid cancers among 11,664 [13,546 per million] subjects…

See also: Japan Expert: Outbreak of cancer now underway in children after Fukushima; Clear evidence of epidemic — Official: Would be disastrous to conclude it’s actually from Fukushima

Published: November 7th, 2014 at 10:11 am ET


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1,293 comments to NYTimes: Doctors want ban on thyroid cancer screenings — “A tsunami of thyroid cancer… Stop the diagnosis… We need to actively discourage early detection” — WSJ: Judge rules nuclear reactors causing thyroid cancers — Study: Fukushima-related tumors can spread very fast, must be closely monitored

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    What is the crane dangling near 3?

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Oops..meant for webcam thread..
    At 13:40..

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Thanks to tarpus!
    Fear or love – it's just a choice…Bill Hicks

  • Bill Duff

    No operational reactors in Japan smells like VICTORY to me.

  • Bill Duff

    All SIX reactors at FDNPS are decommissioned forever smells like victory.

  • Bill Duff

    FDNPS Reactors 5 and 6 will NEVER be constructed smells like VICTORY

  • Bill Duff

    Anyone counting on WHO is a Starry Eyed MORON.

  • Bill Duff

    FDNPS Reactors 5 and 6 are decommissioned forever which is a victory

  • Bill Duff

    FDNPS Reactors 7 and 8 have been cancelled on the drawing board SMELLS like victory

  • Bill Duff

    TEPCO is a bankrupt WARD of the state smells like victory to me.

  • Sickputer

    Oh this news story release from 3 days ago from the IAEA will really impress all the brain dead naked apes on planet earth:


    SP: They don't test and reveal any VALUES or LEVELS of toxic radiation…they just see how competing labs compare to each other. Yep…18 labs worldwide measured the same Fuking water samples as 12 Japanese labs and the Japanese were more proficient in their methodology!

    To hell with listing becquerel readings or anything that would make sense to the public! Just play their little Fuking mind games! You can't make this shit up unless you are a stone cold nucleoape!

  • Bungalow Phil Bungalow Phil

    The Velocity of Now Episode 12 (Hour 2) SHILL and COP Spotting

    Published on Sep 29, 2013
    Identifying Shills and Infiltrators in the Alternative Movement:


  • Bill Duff

    Sellafield nuclear plant in Cumbria does NOT process MOX SMELLS like a victory

  • Bill Duff

    Siemens ABANDONED nuclear SMELLS like VICTORY

  • skizexq skizexq

    too much, Dr Bill on KSCO
    "the only hope for us is with nuclear!"
    BS artiste since he was on KZGO, may still be.
    ON NOW at stream

  • skizexq skizexq

    he just said Fukushima may be damaging the health of 100 people…"

  • skizexq skizexq

    calling in as I write to ksco live, mr. bill Wattenberg, we'll see if I get on…I think the news he doesn't p[ay attention to re uss Ronald Reagan must have been overlloked

  • Bill Duff

    Nation after Nation abandons nuclear power SMELLS like victory

  • skizexq skizexq

    of course it is the end of the show and I probably won't get on, but I did say to the screener the uss Reagan must have close to 100 in and of itself. 'damaged' by fuku

    this bill Wattenberg is one of the biggest spinners and liars I have ever known, and I used to listen to him on kgo when I was frickin 12 and didn't know any better, friendly grampa voice…bs all the time and very condescending…
    he never stops!

  • Bill Duff

    USA down to 100 operational reactors and dropping SMELLS like victory

  • skizexq skizexq

    I will write this BS artist and explain to him in baby terms the effects of RADIATION FALLOUT especially, on the sailors on the USS Ronald Reagan when it was hosed by FUKUFairy dust courtesy of Israel and how these believers in democracy who signed up to THAT bs – how their lives are now…what a Mofucker. Bill Wattenberg will fry in hell someday,.

  • Sickputer

    Back on topic again…

    SP: I actually have to acknowledge (not compliment) the sheer audacity of the nucleoape cabal that they came up with this Fukushita-smile tactic to deflect the enormous thyroid contamination plague striking Japan and other nuclear hotspots.

    Their new tactical lie began after they had publicized extensively the false assumption that (paraphrased): "large scale public screening of Japanese children with extremely sensitive scanning instruments would detect far more thyroid "abnormalities" but that large number was NORMAL!"

    You see how they make a virtue of a genocidal vice? A blessing out of their crimes?

    It is beyond belief the gall of these nucleoapes who prey on the emotions and employment problems of innocent victims caught in the epicenter of the world's largest manmade ecological disaster. They soothingly issue words of comfort to evacuees and people who should be not only be evacuees, but really should be permanently relocated as per the nuclear industry's own guidelines developed decades ago by their previous crop of nucleoape scientists who still had some smidgen of humanity in their soul.

    Next stage of their "Work will set you free" plan (btw… Do you think a nukie snatched the Auschwitz gate?):

    That stage is No More Thyroid Tests. Soon to be followed by Return to Your Safe Fukushima Towns.

    Tepco: "It's all in your mind…you lazy evacuees. We will pound down the lazy nails sticking out!"

    • ISPC

      Yes. Sickputer. President Obama informed Americans that the "radiation leak" at FDNPP posed no health risk. The truth of the dangers of the triple meltdown and thermonuclear detonations is now widely evidenced, yet, no retraction, no correction, no further discussion. Today, most Americans have completely forgotten about Fukushima. They have in their minds that they are safe. In that, they do nothing to protect themselves. The Truth is that Fukushima posed/poses very real danger to all Americans. The President's misleading statements have done more harm than the disaster itself would do to an informed public. If only he had been honest…. We know there are things that can be done, in the simplist manner, for instance, to protect the Thyroid Gland with the administration of Iodine prior to exposure. How many Thyroid Cancers in the U.S. could have been avoided by simply informing people of the danger, and presenting the simple ways to combat the harmful biological effects of radiation exposure. It is clear that those we trust to make reasonable decisions on our behalf do not have our best interests in mind. In fact, it appears as if there is a conspiracy of silence and lies intended to cause the greatest possible harm by those we trust the most. The People will eventually wake up to what has been done to them. I hope they wake up sooner than later; if only for their own sake, but when they do, we will see Justice, too. Wake up People. No Nukes. Peace

      • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

        Quote ISPC : "In fact, it appears as if there is a conspiracy of silence and lies intended to cause the greatest possible harm by those we trust the most"

        ..In fact, it appears as if there is a conspiracy of silence and lies intended to cause the greatest possible harm by those who stripped us from all options except the option to behave as if that's a reason to trust them…meanwhile emphasizing the importance to smile..


      • Bill Duff

        The American People are quite fed up with the lies of the Øb☭ma Cabal. They recently were so angry with the Kenya Native, as to overwhelmingly vote for Republicans. This, notwithstanding the KNOWN moral hazards of the GOP.

        I personally would prefer pitchforks, tar, feathers and a 13 knotted rope.

  • skizexq skizexq

    He's like Michael Medved or Hannity, or Rush limpdick or Alan Colmbes (sp), so much hot, yet influencing to some, air/
    or any of the other puppet MSM bs artists that plague OUR airwaves.
    rant over \
    and to all a good night.
    Check out ksco at link on Sunday if you want to go into la la land and have a chance to coutner it by calling in, I was a little late, but his comment of maybe 100 people 'may' have been affected by FUKU.
    What a bastard.
    Reminds me of some of the trolls on here…shoot them down.

  • skizexq skizexq

    "his comment of maybe 100 people 'may' have been affected by FUKU."
    – was made 10 mins out from the end of his 'show'…at least I tried to challenge him. told the screener I was pissed, but they blathered on about global warming…no mention of the world wide chemtrail geo-engineering, of course, or anything relative to being aware of trends and following them. He probably thinks the babies without brains around Hanford is a "fluke."


  • Sickputer

    Yes Bill…you are quite right…we have won many victories. Suffered many losses also, but we are winning the intellectual battle through the interface designed by the nucleoapes to survive a global holocaust. Slightly ironic don't you think?

    1, 2, or 3 flamers (probably the same person as the style is just unmistakable to careful observers) is such a puny response. The nucleoapes in general are reeling from Fukushima despite their stiff upper lip and false bravado. Got to get their children through college. Not trained for much else.

    They would like to hit the big Powerball and take a fully stocked yacht south to the Tongas or New Zealand with their extended family. 🙂

    Might meet Tom Cruise or some fatcat Tepco expatriate.

    Yes, I firmly believe there is a Japanese Doomsday Machine that has been unleashed in eastern Japan. Don't believe me? Check back on the status of health issues in Tokyo in about 5 years and see if you still feel the same. It's all downhill now…

  • skizexq skizexq

    Sochi falling into ruins, Tokyo next?- funny how 5 orbs can change a place…designed by Hitler himself I read…
    or some music at the right time:

  • skizexq skizexq

    keep on rockin on, til we can't no more, Sickputer, maybe we'll someday tear the masks of those in 'Eyes Wide Shut' someday. They deserve it soon…

  • skizexq skizexq

    I'll bet if a Hippopotamus was up close to these so called revered doctors, up close, like on their doorstep ,or in their yard, field – threatening their car (omg!) or (god-forbid) their chirrens, they would believe in Hippocratic oaths once again and abandon such absurd directives to forego what they (may or may have not) been wanting to do/uphold in their field in the first place.

  • Jebus Jebus

    I think it's rich that the resident diety has to bring his own possee of bat shit crazies, just to make it look like he is sane…


    • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

      Lol , i gave up on trying to look normal…it was a relief when the trolls use the fringe argument a bit to much.. but still no real counterargument's..check..oke..i give them "fringe"..and i don't own a posse… but i do think ENEnews has a much higher percentage of people with deity effect's/quality's one way or the other..than in other places…
      Sort of like there are more psychopath's concentrated on the top of the corrupt , diabolic pyramid foodchain "hostage takers on the weel" , but opposite..i think that's a no small compliment.. but i don't know whom you talking about so i leave it like this.. 🙂

      quote wiki : "defined a deity as "a being with powers greater than those of ordinary humans, but who interacts with humans, positively or negatively, in ways that carry humans to new levels of consciousness beyond the grounded preoccupations of ordinary life.""

  • itsanuclearwar quote "This is the stuff that stock, vannev and many more do not want to be exposed and why I AM SO LIKED HERE AT ENEWS(SARC) That and because I exposed the shills by name, pissed them off big time. This place is crawling with them, some are slicker than others, or in reality, slimier."

    LOL from a post by itsa above.
    OH, the other main strategy from this troll is

    3) marginalize the ENE site by expressing really far out there conspiracy theories, transhumans, fuku was on purpose, etc.

    • itsanuclearwar

      That's the best you could do stock? Lame at best, chicken shit also.
      The fraudulent intent is clear though, as you are still a shill, nothing has change, although you appear to be desperate. Lets discuss something relevant like HAARP. Problem with that is you will run and hide from that discussion like a chicken shit and like you have before, like with "stock out". Pathetic troll trick used for avoidance. Angels Don't Play This HAARP and stock is afraid to look/discuss it.

      A detailed discussion that discloses the facts regarding HAARP will only serve to expose you for the shill/troll you are. So how about it punk, lets debate it and settle this.

      I bet that you won't reply at all, or if you do it will be more garbage from you. Maybe one of your shill buddies will defend you on this, another troll trick used here at enenews by you shills.

      • @itsa Your not fooling anyone boy. People are not stupid here, they have taken the red pill already.

      • Previous personal attacks on Sickputer:
        by itsanukularwar

        Quote: "@SICKPUTER, the story about the guy turning back because of to high of radiation was not the truth. So here you are promoting their lies and fabricating your own. It seems that some people are falling for it. Why the lies?"

        Quote: "Kind of shot yourself in the foot there. Do you just make it up as you go? And we are to take you seriously?"

        I think somebody owes Sickputer an apology.

        Personal attack on Razz:
        by itsanukularwhore

        Quote: "No, not that simple. You have left out much. But don't let the facts get in the way of a false story, one that supports the hidden agenda you keep pushing!"

        I think somebody owes Razz an apology.

        Personal attack on Crickets:
        by itsanukularwhore

        Quote: "I question the intent of anyone that acts as if this is the truth, especially those here at enenews."

        • itsanuclearwar

          Oh my, the sky is falling. They probably should lock me up for ALL THAT. Mighty DESPERATE their stock. You might fool some here at enenews, but not many. Of course you have your team that will go to bat for you no matter what. Makes you all look bad though, and yes, you are doing a good job of fucking up this site with your lies and such.

          Fuku was done by design and you know it! Done by design to kill off the USELESS EATERS. The governments actions/inactions, their lies and concealment of the radiation, the raising of the "safe" limits of radiation, importing all the radiated food from Japan, is ALL EVIDENCE in support of the fact that Fuku was done by design. That is just the tip of the iceberg. Yet you call it a conspiracy theory. That is way past stupid there genius. You and George Bush and conspiracy theories. Get real. Are you a 9-11 denier also? You know, do you deny that 9-11 was an inside job? AT least answer that question, after all, you have nothing to hide, right?


          • Troll nailed

            You got no game. Oh ya, USA used HAARP to create a Tsunami to destroy their greatest trade partner.

            Oh ya, make a lot of sense. that shite is stupid talk.

            Now troll be gone.

            Please list "my lies" that you speak of repeatedly. stock out

        • VoxDei VoxDei


          Your modus operandi always includes re-arranging a persons name in an insulting and degrading way.

          This does not lend to any credibility on your part.

          I have read this exchange between you and IANW. Its very sad indeed to see such a learned person as yourself stoop to the level of trash talking with impunity.

          I think admin should be aware that people regardless of where they stand on the issues, should behave in a proper and appropriate manner.

          Would you not agree or would you just call me a name, and besmirch my logon ID in some juvenile format?

      • Personal attack on Crickets:
        by itsanukularwhore

        Quote: "I question the intent of anyone that acts as if this is the truth, especially those here at enenews."

        I think somebody owes Crickets an apology too.

        Personal attack on CodeShutdown:
        by itsanukularwhore

        Quote: "I would not waste my time on this whatsoever if I didn't believe this. I haven't heard anyone else come up with anything that sounds like a good idea. For you to write this off without even looking at it is ass nine."

        I think somebody owes everybody on enenews an apology.

        Personal attack on WeNotTheyFinally:
        by itsanukularwhore

        Quote: "You can't be serious. May be you should read the info on Codex again, it must not have registered with your brain."

        I think somebody owes WeNotTheyFinally an apology, but that…

        • Very impressive muck raking Stock!

          At the very least, stuck in denial of how bad it is.. many people are stuck there.

          But then attacking the messenger? Well, sadly that is the norm for a lot of people out there in the mass media world where;

          Lies are truth
          war is peace
          poison is healing
          heavy metal/radiation is bananas
          propaganda is media
          IAEA marketing agency is 'official watchdog'
          WHO is not in charge of health, IAEA is
          FDA says nano silver is insecticide, 'protects' public from it
          CIA assassinates democratically elected leaders to promote 'freedom' and democracy
          DU weapons blown up in cities to fight 'terrorism'
          INEPTCO makes up stuff; is now 'official' and can take that to court
          Farmers now own INEPTCO radiation, can't give it back, promotes health
          Fukushima doctors say smiling protects people from radiation

          Plus stocks 100 nuke lies.. see his blog for details on the rest of the iceberg mountain of corruption that the nuclear cabal is built on.

          • itsanuclearwar

            @Dr. Goodheart, so you are OK with what stock tried to do to my post/links regarding cancer cures. That should go up to the top of your list that begins:

            "Lies are truth
            war is peace
            poison is healing"

            You the good heart doctor is good with blackballing the excellent info that I tried to provide, in good faith, for the good of everyone.

            Maybe you should change your handle that is more accurate.

            Hey stock, me thinks you are color blind, you people are taking the blue pills instead of the red ones.

            • itsa, so the matter is clear.

              I posted about a virus that a troll posting into file links at ENE like 2 weeks ago.

              You mistakenly took that comment to be about YOU today. And now you have made up pure lies about my prior and current posts. You are on my shite list.

              troll be gone.

              The goal is not to mitigate cancer, is it to shut them down and avoid cancer.

              • itsanuclearwar

                No that's not true. You are still lying. It was me in your crosshairs from the beginning, that is only to obvious. You started in on me at the very beginning of this tread. You have been laying in wait. Make no mistake about it. You don't care who might get hurt because of your actions, all so that you can silence me, silence the truth. That Fuku was done by design, and you are paid to conceal this fact.

                Shutting them down sounds so good, but you know it aint gonna happen. We will all be dead and gone before that never takes place.

                So you are here on a false pretense and continue to do what ever you can to conceal the truths about HAARP and Fuku.

                Your alleged goal to shut them down is a scam. In the mean time the government is using HAARP and other scalar weapons to modify the weather, making it a weapon of mass destruction, and using it every day against the population.

                The evidence proves this as fact, but you will do anything to conceal this truth. Hiding behind "SHUT THEM ALL DOWN". Sounds noble but is the wolf in sheep's clothing.

                There it is, more of the truth that serves to expose you and your bullshit reason for being here, SHILL!

                SHUT YOU DOWN would benefit humanity.

                Better get to work, more truth to eradicate to protect the TPTB and their useful idiots.

                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  itsanuclearwar, you do realize that you have ruined your position and appear to be a DISRUPTOR? If you think its important to talk about HAARP, secret societies and cancer cures, go ahead, nobody is stopping you. Instead you attack people. You appear to be tagging the anti nuclear people as "conspiracy theorists" by association. If you are for real, you better wise up and quickly. If you are a vindictive disruptor, thats not going to work either. I would say youre about an inch from getting booted. But we will still have VoxDei to chatter with….

              • VoxDei VoxDei

                No troll caused your virus. To this end, all I have done is post a contrarian view to your position. I do not inject viruses or point to malware sites.

                It sounds as if you are a little paranoid, and should investigate your own motives.

                Maybe you just made it all up just to stir things up. But you have high fallutant IP trackers and other things that spies and hackers have. These programs are always under attack, and not necessarily by someone you deem a "troll".

                • or-well

                  Look who showed up a minute apart.

                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    yep. They ram it up your ear and suck it out your rear…or is it the reverse? Asymmetric intraguild kleptoparasites never leave you alone. Thats why Im in favor of public defense using an array of hand held aluminized mylar umbrellas judiciously aimed for maximum solar effect

                    • or-well

                      But…but…that means…
                      that's a fact cuz it's all-capped and has exclamation marks.
                      BTW, I got Mitsuku to agree to infect pronuke websites.
                      I think she lied to me tho.

            • LOL, if you think stock and others you have insulted are shills, I'ma thinka you, itsa, might needsa new glasses. 🙂

              Somehow you're mistakenly mis reading or mis attributing intentions of posts, then flying into spit and sputter mode. Save that for the actual enemies of enews. Please.

          • VoxDei VoxDei

            You forgot burning fossil fuel and coal releases radiation.

            Try your Geiger counter on your car exhaust just for fun. I bet you get some clicks.

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              100 mile range electric cars existed 100 years ago. Could charge using solar today. When did big oil and coal become the good guys?

              • Bill Duff

                I have had a small PV panel set up to charge the batteries on my fishing boat for 20 years. It will fully charge the 2 batteries in a few days, if they are completely depleted. But that would ruin the batteries. So I do full charges with a grid connected charger; and use the PV panel for keeping them charged.

                Useful, in a limited sort of way.

                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  C'mon Bill, I know you can do better, if you can make that system for the coastguard…which we hope was not useful in a limited sort of way…

                  At least show us you can make your fishing boat solar…heck illiterate grandmas in India are putting up solar systems for villages

                  • Bill Duff

                    The battery chargers I provided the USCG cutters were conventional AC powered not solar. The Oil companies bought solar chargers for their offshore platforms.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      conventional AC generators? You mean diesel? Funny about oil companies using solar for their platforms…I mean cmon

            • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

              Vox Diablo: No one here is advocating fossil fuels for energy besides you. No one here is advocating nuclear energy besides you.

              Please use only solar, wind energy. Ban all coal, oil, methane, nuclear and other polluting energies.

              • Bill Duff

                Actually, I advocate the use of Natural Gas, LPG, Oil and Clean Coal technologies. Until something better comes along.

                No carbon-14 in Fossil Fuels … decay you know

                • AGreed, Bill, someday I shall provide some facts about solar, perhaps to an ahah moment.

                  For now, suffice to say that in Hawaii solar PV can be built at less than 3 cents per kilowatthour. That is with Gov tax credits. And it stays at 3 cents for 30 years.

                  IN the meantime, why not use natural resources as long as we can get away from dirty country killing nuke. In fact we have as the solar buildout will probably take several decades.


                  • Bill Duff

                    Hawai'i was nice B4 the Salt Spray included C-134 & SR-90

                    • Excatly, I was boiling off a half gallon of sea water, on the grill outside. And 2 friends were like OMG! what if there is radiation in there!!!!!

                      I said, do you go to the beach? Do you live on this island….what about the salt spray we breathe every day, if a half gallon is "bad" how is 1,000,000 gallons aerosolized every day? And much more when windy or stormy.

                      Results, plate background no salt 25CPM

                      Plate with boiled off residue on it…..39CPM

                      Kind of scary, not sure how to interpret that. Must be bananas in the water.

                    • Bill Duff

                      Mined salt is less radioactive than sea salt since 311. Ethanol has more C-14 than gasoline. Peat Moss is less radioactive than mulch.

                      Making those Post Fukushima lifestyle changes.

                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  The earth and its animal and plant inhabitants have flourished on solar since the dawn of history. And you are waiting for something better than oil and coal? Maybe like those floating nuke reactors, or those quad deep earth reactors…

                  Intelligence has a certain ring to it, the sonorous tone of which has gone missing from your posts it seems

                  • Bill Duff

                    I prefer functional engineered systems to pipe dreams and fantasy power. The civilian nuclear power attempt is a failed economics fission experiment. I favor continued nuclear fission R&D at a drastically reduced level, in much more robust designs. Fossil fuels for now, until something better comes along.

                    • Time to read the solar link, Bill

                      There has been a massive sea change in the last 3 years. Sea change.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      History of the planet is not a pipe dream, no fantasy. The fact that an average house is accustomed to the equivalent work of 10 or 20 men putting out their 1/4 HP 24/7 doesnt mean its imperative. Anyway, we can talk about the fantasy/pipe dream of sustainable energy over at my friends place which is totally solar. I think he has some Duff beer in his fridge which works just fine

      • yogda yogda

        @ Stock
        It's obvious the nuclear village is losing this battle to the truth.

        Sending in bots and pro nuclear shills just shows how desperate they are to contain public awareness.

        Never give up!

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        itsanuclearwar, you are OT here. Waaaaaaaay OT. Give it a rest. Or take it to the Forum, OK?

    • itsanuclearwar

      @stock, you look and sound just like Bush when he said:

      "Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories, concerning the attacks of September 11th. Malicious lies that attempt to shift the blame away from the terrorist themselves, away from the guilty."

      Bush lied. You lied. You are lying now.

      Lets talk about HAARP. Lets expose HAARP. Oh, that's right, exposing the truth about HAARP exposes you too.

      How about stuxnet? Oh yea, that exposes you too. This is where your shill friends come in to protect you from having to reply, so as not to expose you for the shill that you are. So, who will step up first?

      We discuss HAARP and then you can attack the message instead of the messenger like you trolls do. Dead give away for a shill/troll, attack the messenger, never the message, at least not with facts.

      • Take your shite to Above Top Secret.

        All those conspiracies do nothing to advance the anti-nuclear cause, only to distract and to marginalize.

        HAARP is real, "own the weather" is a real written goal of the US military.

        Stuxnet is real, in fact nuke promoter are tricking anti nukes via link into being infected with a variant of the Stuxnet. Stick that is your conspiracy pipe and smoke it.

        Troll Be Gone!

        stock out

        • itsanuclearwar

          "stock out"

          I called that one. Hit and run like a chicken shit troll. Also said you wouldn't debate it, cause the truth serves only to expose you.

          The US military have reached their goal and now they completely own the weather. You know it too, but will never admit it, punk.

          How about the cancer cures, care to promote them. I didn't think so.

      • I

        You can disagree or have differences of opinion here on ENE without getting into a personal shaming, blaming and flaming war.

        If you persist in attacking people personally and calling everyone else here a shill, you will become a troll, by definition.

        Cool it. Let it lay. NO ONE agrees with anyone about anything 100% of the time.

        If you are on the side of anti nuclear, join the crowd.

        If you blame the whole anti nuclear crowd for any and all perceived slights or attacks, you become the enemy, but you do it at your own hand and by your own devices.

        You are running out of rope.. forgiving and forgetting may be something worth considering at this point.

        Go ahead and make your own bed, because you will be the one lying in it..

        Free choice and all that..

        The world is more than just black and white.. there are many shades of grey.

        The enemies you seem to perceive here on this site may be just in your head; have you ever considered that?

  • Bill Duff

    It is NOT hopeless.

    • Agreed, but only if reality is accepted and embraced.

      So far INEPTCO is choosing to stay in denial and obstruction mode.

      NO interest in truth telling or facing reality.

      Kind of like an addicted going downhill fast…

      Where is the bottom going to be?

      Who knows?

      It must get much darker first, until the addict chooses to face reality and ask for help, plus surrender self will and do a 12 step program.

      This works personally and in organizations..

  • Bill Duff

    Fukushima CORIUM can be contained.

  • Bill Duff

    Humanity CAN substantially reduce our internal contamination radiation exposure after Fukushima, Chernobyl and Atmospheric Weapon Tests.

  • Bill Duff

    Greenhouses can produce food without radioactive potassium. Potassium-40 (40K) is a radioactive isotope of potassium makes up 0.012% of the total amount of potassium found in nature. Potassium-40 undergoes all three types of beta decay.

  • Another lie of nuke–pretending that the WHO is NOT a captured agency in terms of nuclear and radiation reporting. Doc you got a link to support the capture…how can I search a topic on your site? stock all in

    Bill Duff
    November 9, 2014 at 8:22 pm · Reply

    The World Health Organization is prevented (by charter) from declaring nuclear hazards.

    Report comment

    VoxDei VoxDei
    November 9, 2014 at 8:24 pm · Reply

    That is not true. The WHO is chartered by the UN as is the IAEA.

    Look, you can have whatever kook organization you want independently going around saying the sky is falling. It doesn't make it true.

  • Bill Duff

    I will not BUY California wine but friends and family keep GIVING me the contaminated swill. I hate to regift poison or even pour it in my yard or down the drain.

    • Buy 2010, not activated, ya know

      • Mica

        Exactly, stock. You can still find some 2009 & 2010 CA wines if you are persistent. I'm getting quite a collection. And then there are always South American wines…

        • Bill Duff

          Southern Hemisphere wines are preferable. Local Texas wines and Eastern Mexico Wines are 2nd choice due to 2011 DROUGHT and Jet Stream path during Spring of 2011. Rocky Mountains remain a decent barrier

          Left Coast and Northern USA wines – I don't think so.

          • Sickputer

            Yes, my wine purchases lately are from 2010 or older and almost all from Argentina, Chile, New Zealand and Australia. When there is choice and price is not prohibitive your buying habits should reflect the reality of the new Fallout Age. YMMV

  • micky thered micky thered

    OT? heads up folks. Kenny B from woods hole is on the front page of Reddit doing an AMA. probably too late to get a reply from him. but it's a great opportunity to post replies/rebuttals to the redditors on there. I'm going to work my way through the posts and try to shine a little light in there.

  • @itsanukewhore

    Quote of "Jack Burton": "Son of a bitch must pay!"

    Quote of itsanukularwhore: "You are an idiot vannev, my post is not off topic, and is on topic with Dr Goodheart's post that I replied too. I have been away for a while, you must be foaming at the mouth for a chance to attack me, you and stock both. Both shills that work for TPTB, USEFUL IDIOTS!"


    Wasted no time attacking Anne after a lengthy absence.
    Now i think he/she owes Stock an apology too.

  • Nick

    November 7, 2014 at 11:23 am · Reply
    Stages and prognosis for Thyroid Cancer:

    Early diagnosis and treatment, and diagnosis at an early age, for thyroid cancer plays a large role in survivability.

    Very good topic, Admin. 🙂
    Great find!
    Forcast 600+ posts on this over next day or two.

    (THIS IS POST # ~983)

    Excellent call PUN!! Nick

    • Bill Duff

      Important factors in determining a patient's prognosis include the type of cancer, size of the tumor, spread of the tumor into nearby structures in the neck, spread of the tumor to other areas of the body (i.e. metastasis), and most importantly, the age of the patient.

      Good Study Nick

    • Bill Duff


      Where is the phrase "early diagnosis" located in the Columbia webpage. I looked for your quote and have not located it on the website.

      Has the phrase "early diagnosis" been redacted?

    • Bill Duff


      Has the phrase "early diagnosis" been redacted by Columbia Thyroid?

    • Bill Duff

      Has the phrase "early diagnosis" been banned?

    • Bill Duff

      Early detection of recurrent disease

      By Ernest L. Mazzaferri, MD MACP Adjunct Professor of Medicine, University of Florida and Emiritus Professor & Chairman of Internal Medicine. The Ohio State University

      In the past few decades, thyroid cancer has been diagnosed earlier, providing an opportunity for treatment before the cancer has spread beyond the thyroid and improving survival rates. Proper therapy – in most cases this means surgical removal of the tumor along with the entire thyroid gland, followed by radioactive iodine (I-131) ablation and thyroid hormone therapy – has the potential to reduce recurrence and mortality rates.

      (The phrase eems mainstream enough on the Thyroid Community Online)

  • "Hey I think stock is a troll AND a shill"


    • It is a badge of honor… wear it proudly..

      If a person here is not being attacked at some point by someone, they are doing it wrong.

      There is no way to keep everyone 100% in agreement with everything you may ever say.. The more you say, the more disagreement there is.

      Everyone has their own mind, beliefs and hidden unconscious influences..

      Staying on the same 'team' is hard work, because it means constant forgiveness and acceptance of 'differences'.

      Supporting those who are different, while disagreeing with individual points is an important part of building a 'team'.

      Diversity is important, and should be celebrated. Enenews is a great example of how it happens and works through everyone here.

  • Here is the Ken Woods Whore comment and answer site….shite, he avoided all three of my questions.

    stock out


  • 1001 posts in this thread.. yahoo! more money for ENE

  • skizexq skizexq

    "Do No Harm," yeah right…first thing most docs want to do if you say you are depressed is pump some SSRI pills into you, you know the ones on teeveevee;
    "may cause irrational behavior, suicidal thoughts, and increase blood pressure, rare instances result in mass shootings at public schools, egged-on by handlers hidden, and may cause psychotic breaks, results vary widely…"

  • Jebus Jebus

    Where are the souls who wore these?


    What were their names, at least…

    Where are the souls?

  • rogerthat


    Nov 7 By Christof Lehmann

    Hanford Engineer: Digging Debate Covers Up Decades of Dirt

    Christof Lehmann (nsnbc)

    In April 2014, nsnbc reported a 400% spike in anencephaly, a rare birth defect correlated with radioactive isotopes, in three counties around Washington State’s Hanford nuclear site.

    In November, the head of the EPA’s Richland office said digging up contaminated soil is expensive, suggesting not to dig so deep.

    An engineer working at the Hanford Nuclear Reservation broke the code of silence, saying the top soil debate is covering up decades of dirt and the fact that Hanford spreads plutonium and other isotopes throughout the region…

    In April 2014, nsnbc reported that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had registered a 400% above national average spike of the rare birth defect anencephaly in Yakima, Benton and Franklin counties, which are located around the Hanford Nuclear Reservation.

    Speaking with CDC epidemiologist Mandy Stahre, who was overseeing the investigation into the birth defects for the Washington State CDC at that time, nsnbc noted that Stahre was literally clueless about the difference between isotopes and radiation, or in other words, hot particles and radiation and the different effects the one or the other have on living organisms….

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