NYTimes: Doctors want ban on thyroid cancer screenings — “A tsunami of thyroid cancer… Stop the diagnosis… We need to actively discourage early detection” — WSJ: Judge rules nuclear reactors causing thyroid cancers — Study: Fukushima-related tumors can spread very fast, must be closely monitored

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New York Times, Nov. 5, 2014 (emphasis added):  To the shock of many cancer experts, the most common cancer in South Korea… is now thyroid cancer, whose incidence has increased fifteenfold in the past two decades. “A tsunami of thyroid cancer,” as one researcher puts it… Cancer experts agree that the reason for the situation in South Korea and elsewhere is not a real increase in the disease. Instead, it is down to screening… “It’s a warning to us in the U.S. that we need to be very careful in our advocacy of screening,” said Dr. Otis W. Brawley, chief medical officer at the American Cancer Society… some doctors, including Dr. Hyeong Sik Ahn of the College of Medicine at Korea University in Seoul, the first author of the new paper, have called for thyroid cancer screening to be banned… Thyroid experts in the United States are calling for restraint in diagnosing and treating tiny tumors… Dr. R. Michael Tuttle… said the best way… was to “stop the diagnosisdecrease screening

New York Times Op-ed by H. Gilbert Welch, Nov. 5, 2014: An Epidemic of Thyroid Cancer [in South Korea]?Nowhere in the world is the rate of any cancer growing faster… Where did all those new thyroid cancers come from? They were always there. As early as 1947 [See: August 1945 atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, both ~150 miles from S. Korea] … thyroid cancer was a frequent finding during autopsies. Studies have since shown that over a third of adults have thyroid cancer… Even without a concerted effort to promote screening, thyroid cancer incidence in the United States is up threefold since 1975. To reverse this trend, we need to actively discourage early thyroid cancer detection… having doctors not look too hard for early cancer is in your interest… Too many epidemiologists concern themselves.. with hoping to find small health effects of environmental exposures — or worse, uncertain effects of minor genetic alterations.

Wall St. Journal, Oct 21, 2014: A South Korean court for the first time has ruled in favor of a plaintiff claiming… thyroid cancer was caused by radiation from six nuclear power plants located [5 miles] from her house… “She has lived within 10 km of the plants for over 20 years and has thus been exposed to radiation for a long time. Other than the radiation from the nuclear reactors, there’s no clear reason for her cancer,” the court said… [A] government-commissioned study in 2011… showed women living within 5 km of nuclear plants had 2.5 times higher incidences of thyroid cancer… [In a study of the plaintiff’s county by a] nuclear-power research institute… between July 2010 and December 2013, about 1.4%… were found to have thyroid cancer… in 2011 [women had] 114 cases out of 100,000 [0.11%].

UC San Francisco, Oct. 27, 2014: For the first time, researchers have found that exposure to radioactive iodine is associated with more aggressive forms of thyroid cancer… Lydia Zablotska, MD [said] “Our group has previously shown that exposures to [Chernobyl’s] radioactive iodine significantly increase the risk of thyroid cancer… The new study shows that radiation exposures are also associated with distinct clinical features that are more aggressive”… Zablotska said the findings have implications for those exposed to [Fukushima’s] radioactive iodine fallout... “children or adolescents to the fallout are at highest risk and should probably be screened for thyroid cancer regularly, because these cancers are aggressive, and they can spread really fast… Clinicians should be aware of the aggressiveness of radiation-associated tumors and closely monitor those at high risk.”… radioactive iodine [exposures] are associated with a whole spectrum of thyroid diseases… Thyroid cancer is ordinarily rare among children, with less than one new case per million diagnosed each year… [In the study] researchers diagnosed 158 thyroid cancers among 11,664 [13,546 per million] subjects…

See also: Japan Expert: Outbreak of cancer now underway in children after Fukushima; Clear evidence of epidemic — Official: Would be disastrous to conclude it’s actually from Fukushima

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  • rogerthat

    … Subsequent to the publication of the article in April, nsnbc was contacted by an engineer who is working at the Hanford nuclear facility. Speaking on condition of anonymity while proving his credentials, the Hanford engineer stressed that while he is working there, he has advised younger members of his family not to even live within a radius of at least 100 – 150 miles around the reservation.

    He noted that both the open garbage disposal pits, leaking containers at “parking lots”, leaking tanks and other sources of contamination endanger the population around the Hanford reservation by releasing a cohort of radioactive isotopes or hot particles including plutonium into the air and the groundwater.

    He added that bringing up the issue of “hot particle contamination” at the Hanford site is equivalent to being fired at the spot, manhandled like a criminal, and the prospect of unemployment for the remainder of one’s life.

    On Thursday nsnbc spoke with the man who broke Hanford’s “code of silence” about the top-soil removal. He noted that anything is better than nothing, but that neither the removal of 10 or of 15 feet of soil is sufficient to address the problem that highly radioactive isotopes have been working their way down into the ground-water table for decades, and that hot particles are carried with the wind all over the region. The top-soil removal covers up decades of dirt, he added…

    • rogerthat

      … CH/L – nsnbc 07.11.2014

      Note: Are you a resident of Yakima, Franklin, or Benton county? Are or have you been working at the Hanford Nuclear Reservation? Have you / your family or loved ones been affected? Do you have important information to share? – nsnbc international has launched an in-depth investigation and we are asking you to come forward. We guarantee name protection for whistleblowers. You can contact our editor in chief by e-mail, Skype or phone at: e-mail: nsnbc.wordpress@gmail.com, SkypeID: nsnbc.international – or phone +45 322 177 31

      About the Author

      Christof Lehmann – Dr. Christof Lehmann is the founder and editor of nsnbc. He is a psychologist and independent political consultant on conflict and conflict resolution and a wide range of other political issues. His work with traumatized victims of conflict has led him to also pursue the work as political consultant. He is a lifelong activist for peace and justice, human rights, Palestinians rights to self-determination in Palestine, and he is working on the establishment of international institutions for the prosecution of all war crimes, also those committed by privileged nations. On 28 August 2011 he started his blog nsnbc, appalled by misrepresentations of the aggression against Libya and Syria. In March 2013 he turned nsnbc into a daily, independent, international on-line newspaper. He can be contacted at nsnbc international at nsnbc.wordpress@gmail.com

      • nedlifromvermont

        rogerthat you are on it man!!! Go rogerthat!!!

        (by the way … who is Roger?)

        a bevy of great links — you are helping us to pick up our game!!!

        and make the trolls/shills/nuke-bots look stupid and pathetic in their turn …

        Thank you … and to all the 'newser team!!!

        signed: Nedli in Vermont (heading to Washington, D.C. area "Nuclear Free Future" summit for the weekend!!)

        see y'all there …

        • itsanuclearwar

          Speaking of the Palestine and shills, why does Vannev stick out like a sore thumb? She hates Palestine. She hates the Middle East period, and those that call it home, except for Israel of course. Just another hidden agenda here at enenews. We must bow down to Vannev! If you don't you must be a troll. This fucking place is fucking upside down, and run like Washington DC, BY CRIMINALS!

          By the way, good job rogerthat, better yet, excellent job rogerthat.

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

            I don't hate anyone. This is really off-topic.

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

            I have many times spoken out against use of uranium weapons and uranium armaments.

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

            @itsanuclear, you are the one advocating nuclear technology, not me. Your rants and your cabal are the ones killing off the people of the Middle East.

            Catholics against uranium weapons:

            Depleted Uranium Weapons
            The problem
            “There is growing international concern about the use of depleted uranium in weapons, and the harm to military personnel, affected communities and eco-systems exposed to its toxicity and radioactivity.
            “A dramatic rise in birth deformities in the Iraqi city of Basra following the First Gulf War in 1991 is attributed to the US military's use of weapons containing depleted uranium. In the Iraqi city of Fallujah a sharp rise in birth defects began a year after intense U.S military attacks on the city in 2004 which allegedly involved DU weapons.
            “The babies of Basra and Fallujah are dying from wounds of a war they never saw – the toxic legacy of modern weaponry – it is ‘Agent Orange’ all over again.
            “Depleted Uranium use presents a clear risk to human health and the environment. This risk is increased through the use of the weapons in civilian areas and against civilian objects, and is further compounded by the inability of affected communities to effectively manage contamination…”
            http://www.ccjpoz.org/Home/Issues/Depleted-Uranium-Weapons

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            Your comment REPORTED. You are derailing the threads and trying to pick fights with people here. This appears to be a violation of user policy.

            Every time you go completely OT and continue with the OT comments (multiple comments) or attack someone here, your comment will be

            REPORTED

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            REPORTED.

            Baiting a user and trying to start an argument. Plus you're posting lots and lots of OT comments. It appears you are trying to derail the threads.

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

            itsa nuclear bomb, enenews.com is definitely not run by criminals, but aggregating news about the dangers of nuclear technology.

            I am definitely not a criminal either. How is being a pacifist and trying to save lives a criminal activity?

            How is loving all the children in the world a criminal activity?

            If you are in favor of nuclear war and nuclear energy, you are definitely the criminal. It is nuclear technology that is killing off all the children of the world and rendering the world uninhabitable.

  • rogerthat

    https://www.facebook.com/sayno2nuclearwaste

    Say No to Nuclear Waste Storage in Northern Saskatchewan

  • rogerthat

    https://whosaidlifeisfun.wordpress.com/tag/hanford/

    Edward Teller
    Posted on November 10, 2014

    He was the most frightening man I ever interviewed, and the first thing he said to me was, “I never wanted to do this interview”…

  • rogerthat

    http://lmtribune.com/northwest/article_28cc8ee2-77f2-53d1-b1d7-abc75b5590d8.html

    Hanford board wants rules change for landfill waste

    November 11
    By Annette Cary of the Tri-City Herald

    The Hanford Advisory Board called for common sense in applying rules for disposing of unwieldy pieces of contaminated equipment at its recent meeting in Richland.

    The Environmental Protection Agency's rules prohibit waste from being placed in landfills before it is treated, but that prevents the safest way of treating some Hanford equipment contaminated with radioactive materials, according to the board…

  • Bill Duff

    The Nuclear Village desperately needs to REDUCE the Japanese Thyroid Cancer statistics.

  • Bill Duff

    Team Nuke needs to reduce the cancer diagnosis numbers near civilian nuclear reactors.

  • Bill Duff

    The Nuclear Village desperately needs to reduce cancer Morbidity and Mortality (M&M) statistics.

    • nedlifromvermont

      and you would do that by not looking for the morbidity and mortality in the first place … Check.

      like you would use as your control group of Japanese citizens, in the design of a study of the epidemiology of the irradiated victim-survivors of the Hiroshima bombing … an also irradiated and victimized subset of the population from the outlying Hiroshima suburbs … and not the indicated population of Japanese living in less affected areas (eg. Hokkaido) … in order to make the cancer and leukemia statistics from the radiation insult from our bombing look less sinister … less important … Check!

      the lies of Mr. Big Nuke have gone on … at the moral level of a Josef Mengele … for far too long …

      We will mock the nuke supporters with their own poorly designed epidemiological studies … as we die together … victims both of their audacious stupidity, their reckless ambition … and their boundless mendacity …

      all for the sake of profits from uranium metal … forged in Supernovae … and the bane of carbon-based life …

      The guys with the Nobel prize money in biology should have hired hit men to take out the guys who were winning prizes for their high energy physics discoveries … e.g. Seaborg for plutonium …. '

      'nuff said …

      peace 'newsers … Rock on! On to the Sierra Club "Summit for a Nuclear Free Future!!!"

      • Bill Duff

        No, I would do that by dismantling 90% to 95% of the USA civilian nuclear power reactors. Fission would be reduced to an ongoing applied physics experiment, in deep underground facilities. Quad Level design cooling redundancy would be required, as would supersonic detonation containment.

        Future energy needs and resources will ALWAYS remain uncertain. So I prefer to hedge my energy bets.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Japan is toast! 🙁

  • rogerthat

    http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/?p=14074

    43 Groups Request Revision Of UNSCEAR Fukushima Report & New UN Mandate For UNSCEAR
    November 11th, 2014 | Add a Comment
    43 groups from around the world delivered a formal letter to the UN during the UN general assembly.

    The letter requested that UNSCEAR revise their highly criticized 2014 report on Fukushima. The report claimed no discernible effect on the Japanese population from Fukushima, yet a considerable body of research has shown otherwise.

    The letter also requested the UN change the UNSCEAR mandate to focus on a primarily scientific mission and to protect public health.

    Details can be found here:
    http://fukushimavoice-eng2.blogspot.com/2014/11/a-letter-hand-delivered-to-un-and.html

    • nedlifromvermont

      The IAEA is a nest of evil LIARS in the thrall of uranium fission physics … in the service of the Dark Lord himself …

      … whoever that might be …

      Soar On! Dick Cheney … Henchman of the Apocalypse …

      We be loving your titanium heart valves, Dude …

      You do look glowing … with that Plutonium six pack …

      Plans to run in 2016 … fully cyborg … and rule for one hundred and sixty radioactive years …

      Oh well … was nice knowin' …

      ya'

  • rogerthat

    http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/?p=14067

    SimplyInfo
    Details Of Fukushima Unit 4 Damaged Fuel Removal
    November 10

    TEPCO cites that they have removed the last of the damaged fuel from unit 4′s spent fuel pool. They provided a few photos and videos of the work. The assembly was hoisted with a cable out of the fuel rack then moved to the cask. The assembly shown in the videos and photos had large scrape marks showing how distorted the assembly is as it was pulled out of the fuel rack. Videos and larger format photos available in the link above.

    • nedlifromvermont

      It now appears the "danger" of Spent Fuel Pool 4 was over-hyped in order to provide cover for the far larger actual danger and disaster which is presented by the three unapproachable and largely vaporized (?) spent fuel pools 1 – 3 and the three runaway coria … six true mega-disasters which have a far smaller chance of having anything positive being done about them …

      … by the hapless Yakuza castaways who labor at the hellish site …

      Guess I won't be getting to up close with Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg at any future Harvard alumni events …. as she has certainly become "hot" since her visit to the Daiichi control room …

      poor, sweet Caroline … Big Nuke took her Daddy … and now her, too?

      Big Nuke? You are one really bad dude …

      okay … maybe five minutes with my lead shield on!

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      How do they explain unit 4 spent fuel getting over to Europe?

      Cesium found in Europe from fukushima unit 4

      The caesium activity ratios indicate emissions from the core of unit 4

      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22236558

  • rogerthat

    http://www.evacuate-fukushima.com

    http://www.evacuate-fukushima.com/2014/11/sorrow-living-fukushima/

    The Sorrow of Living in Fukushima 福島は日本か
    Nov 10, 2014Nelson SurjonTESTIMONIES0

    福島の原発震災と自身の生活について、自らの想いを綴りツイッターで発信している福島出身のお母さんがいます。雑誌ママレボが、先月発売の第8号でこのお母さんの詩(福島は日本か@asukensuke)をまとめて掲載しました。言葉の一つひとつが、胸に突き刺さります。子ども世界ネットワークにて、一連の詩を翻訳しました。

    A Fukushima-native single mother has been writing poems on twitter about her life since the 3.11 disaster.

    She goes by the twitter name of Sasukensuke and her account “Is Fukushima Japan?” has been followed by thousands of users. In August, Mamarevo magazine published a series of her poems on the latest issue.

    How has the worst nuclear accident in the history changed a mother’s life? How has she been fighting to protect her children and family from radiation exposure? WNSCR translated Sasukensuke’s poems to share with readers…

  • rogerthat

    http://netzfrauen.org/2014/11/09/german-tv-station-das-erste-reveals-fukushima-visiting-biggest-nuclear-building-site-earth/#more-20469

    9. November 20141 Kommentar
    German TV station “Das Erste” reveals: Fukushima – Visiting the biggest nuclear building site on Earth

    – Ranga Yogeshwar. there's lots of interesting stuff in here

    • ISPC

      Yes. rogerthat. TY. This is the first video I have seen with many workman apparently working, and over a fairly large area of the plant. I did not know that 6000 workers could be onsite, or that they were limited to two to three hours of work. I suspect they will all become very ill in time; in spite of TEPCO's assurances otherwise. The video is worth a second look. No Nukes. Peace

  • rogerthat

    http://nf2045.blogspot.com.au/2014/11/fukushima-daiichi-and-other-horror.html

    Nuclear Free by 2045?
    Enough of this century of dread. Nuclear waste is here to stay, but the bombs and reactors can be dismantled. Shut it all down before the centennial of the Trinity Nuclear Bomb Test at Alomogordo, July 16, 1945.

    2014/11/10

    Fukushima Daiichi and Other Horror Stories

    I’ve been living in the Tokyo area since the time of the Fukushima Daiichi catastrophe…

    … In order to put Fukushima in a global and historical context of ecological disasters, the rest of this article will discuss the humanitarian and environmental catastrophes in Kazakhstan and the Southern Urals of Russia. These Central Asian catastrophes have never received the level of attention given to the Fukushima Daiichi meltdowns, even though the environmental, health and social impacts have been far worse.

    The region forms a triangle, with a point at the north in Russia’s plutonium factories near the city of Chelyabinsk, a point in the southwest by the Aral Sea, and another in the east by the Soviet nuclear test site at “the polygon,” near the town of Semey.

    For comparison, you could make a triangle of similar dimensions and proportions in America, with the nuclear sites of Hanford, Washington, Rocky Flats, Colorado and the Nevada Test Site as the points of the triangle…

  • rogerthat

    … Each side of both triangles would be about 1,000 kilometers (660 miles) long.

    Both of these fateful triangles could be described places afflicted by the same suite of devastating ecological assaults.

    Both have been dammed (damned), mined, soaked with agrochemicals, and contaminated with nuclear fallout.[1]

    However, the triangle in Central Asia outdoes its American counterpart by all standards of comparison…

    Chelyabinsk (1957)

    … Victims are still fighting for recognition of the link between radiation and their illnesses, stillbirths, birth defects, and trans-generational genetic damage…

    Semey (Semipalatinsk, The Polygon Test Site)

    … A number of genetic defects and illnesses in the region, ranging from cancers to impotency to birth defects and other deformities, have been attributed to nuclear testing.

    There is even a museum of mutations at the regional medical institute in Semey… It consists of a room filled with jars containing monstrosities caused by nuclear testing such as deformed fetuses and human organs, and animal carcasses barely recognizable as potential living beings.

    As well as an epidemic of babies born with severe neurological and major bone deformations, some without limbs, there have also been many cases of leukemia and other blood disorders, according to James Lerager’s 1992 article Second Sunset–Victims of Soviet Nuclear Testing…

    • rogerthat

      … there's lots more, extremely well sourced, and worth reading in full

    • rogerthat

      … Lerager goes on to say: “The director of the Oncology Hospital in Semipalatinsk estimates that at least 60,000 people in the region have died from radiation-induced cancers; ‘officially,’ the area has the lowest cancer rate in Kazakhstan.” [4][5]

  • rogerthat

    http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/11/american-government-lied-1918-spanish-flu-pandemic.html

    … The U.S. National Academies of Science noted in 2005 (starting on the bottom of p. 64):

    In the United States, national and local government and public health authorities badly mishandled the [1918 "Spanish Flu"] epidemic [which killed up to 50 million people worldwide], offering a useful case study.

    The context is important. Every country engaged in World War I tried to control public perception. To avoid hurting morale, even in the nonlethal first wave the press in countries fighting in the war did not mention the outbreak. (But Spain was not at war and its press wrote about it, so the pandemic became known as the Spanish flu).

    The United States was no different. In 1917 California Senator Hiram Johnson made the since-famous observation that “The first casualty when war comes is truth.” The U.S. government passed a law that made it punishable by 20 years in jail to “utter, print, write or publish any disloyal, profane, scurrilous, or abusive language about the government of the United States.”

    One could go to jail for cursing or criticizing the government, even if what one said was true. A Congressman was jailed. Simultaneously, the government mounted a massive propaganda effort. An architect of that effort said, “Truth and falsehood are arbitrary terms…. There is nothing in experience to tell us that one is always preferable to the other….

    • rogerthat

      … The force of an idea lies in its inspirational value. It matters very little if it is true or false” (Vaughn, 1980).

      The combination of rigid control and disregard for truth had dangerous consequences. Focusing on the shortest term, local officials almost universally told half-truths or outright lies to avoid damaging morale and the war effort. They were assisted—not challenged—by the press, which although not censored in a technical sense cooperated fully with the government’s propaganda machine.

      Routinely, as influenza approached a city or town—one could watch it march from place to place—local officials initially told the public not to worry, that public health officials would prevent the disease from striking them.

      When influenza first appeared, officials routinely insisted at first it was only ordinary influenza, not the Spanish flu. As the epidemic exploded, officials almost daily assured the public that the worst was over.

      This pattern repeated itself again and again. Chicago offers one example: Its public health commissioner said he’d do “nothing to interfere with the morale of the community…. It is our duty to keep the people from fear. Worry kills more people than the epidemic” (Robertson, 1918).

      • rogerthat

        … That idea—“Fear kills more than the disease”—became a mantra nationally and in city after city. As Literary Digest, one of the largest circulation periodicals in the country, advised, “Fear is our first enemy” (Van Hartesveldt, 1992).

        In Philadelphia, when the public health commissioner closed all schools, houses of worship, theaters, and other public gathering places, one newspaper went so far as to say that this order was “not a public health measure” and reiterated that “there is no cause for panic or alarm.”

        But as people heard these reassurances, they could see neighbors, friends, and spouses dying horrible deaths.

        In Chicago, the Cook County Hospital mortality rate of all influenza admissions—not just those who developed pneumonia—was 39.8 percent (Keeton and Cusman, 1918).

        In Philadelphia, bodies remained uncollected in homes for days, until eventually open trucks and even horse-drawn carts were sent down city streets and people were told to bring out the dead.

        The bodies were stacked without coffins and buried in cemeteries in mass graves dug by steam shovels…

        • rogerthat

          …This horrific disconnect between reassurances and reality destroyed the credibility of those in authority. People felt they had no one to turn to, no one to rely on, no one to trust.

          Ultimately society depends on trust. Without it, society began to come apart. Normally in 1918 America, when someone was ill, neighbors helped. That did not happen during the pandemic. Typically, the head of one city’s volunteer effort, frustrated after repeated pleas for help yielded nothing, turned bitter and contemptuous:

          Hundreds of women who are content to sit back had delightful dreams of themselves in the roles of angels of mercy, had the unfathomable vanity to imagine that they were capable of great sacrifice. Nothing seems to rouse them now. They have been told that there are families in which every member is ill, in which the children are actually starving because there is no one to give them food. The death rate is so high and they still hold back.3

          That attitude persisted outside of cities as well. In rural Kentucky, the Red Cross reported “people starving to death not from lack of food but because the well were panic stricken and would not go near the sick” (An Account of the Influenza Epidemic, 1919)…

          • rogerthat

            … As the pressure from the virus continued, an internal Red Cross report concluded, “A fear and panic of the influenza, akin to the terror of the Middle Ages regarding the Black Plague, [has] been prevalent in many parts of the country” (The Mobilization of the American National Red Cross, 1920). Similarly, Victor Vaughan, a sober scientist not given to overstatement, worried, “If the epidemic continues its mathematical rate of acceleration, civilization could easily … disappear … from the face of the earth within a matter of a few more weeks” (Collier, 1974).

            Of course, the disease generated fear independent of anything officials did or did not do, but the false reassurances given by the authorities and the media systematically destroyed trust. That magnified the fear and turned it into panic and terror.

            It is worth noting that this terror, at least in paralyzing form, did not seem to materialize in the few places where authorities told the truth.

            One lesson is clear from this experience: In handling any crisis, it is absolutely crucial to retain credibility. Giving false reassurance is the worst thing one can do. If I may speculate, let me suggest that almost as bad as outright lying is holding information so closely that people think officials know more than they say.

  • rogerthat

    http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es502849e

    Speciation of Radioactive Soil Particles in the Fukushima Contaminated Area by IP Autoradiography and Microanalyses

    Hiroki Mukai *†, Tamao Hatta ‡, Hideaki Kitazawa §, Hirohisa Yamada ∥, Tsuyoshi Yaita ⊥, and Toshihiro Kogure †
    † Department of Earth and Planetary Science, Graduate School of Science, The University of Tokyo, 7-3-1 Hongo, Bunkyo-ku, Tokyo, 113-0033, Japan
    ‡ Japan International Research Center for Agricultural Sciences, 1-1 Ohwashi, Tsukuba, Ibaraki 305-8686, Japan
    § Quantum Beam Unit, National Institute for Materials Science, 1-2-1 Sengen, Tsukuba, Ibaraki 305-0047, Japan
    ∥ Environmental Remediation Materials Unit, National Institute for Materials Science, 1-1 Namiki, Tsukuba, Ibaraki 305-0044, Japan
    ⊥ Quantum Beam Science Center and Fukushima Environmental Safety Center, Japan Atomic Enegy Agency, 1-1-1 Kouto, Sayo-cho, Sayo-gun, Hyogo 679-5148, Japan
    Environ. Sci. Technol., Article ASAP
    DOI: 10.1021/es502849e
    Publication Date (Web): October 24, 2014
    Copyright © 2014 American Chemical Society…

  • rogerthat

    http://ajw.asahi.com/article/0311disaster/fukushima/AJ201411090008

    Minamata disease group opposes restart of Sendai nuclear plant
    November 09, 2014

    By YASUSHI SAITO/ Staff Writer

    … The city of Minamata is about 40 kilometers from the plant…

    Matsunaga said he sees similarities between the Sendai plant’s restart and Minamata disease.

    “While human lives should take priority, the priority has been placed on corporate profits,” Matsunaga said. “(The government) has not learned lessons from Minamata and Fukushima.

    Matsunaga, 51, visited Iitate in Fukushima Prefecture in February 2013. Many residents of the mountain village, whose center is about 40 km from the crippled Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant, remain in evacuation because of the high levels of radiation around their homes.

    Matsunaga said that when he saw the Iitate village office, the vacant houses in the central area and temporary housing, he thought: “Residents cannot return home even if they wanted to.

    “The Fukushima nuclear power plant has been tormenting people who were born and brought up in this village. There is no guarantee that Minamata can avoid the same fate.” …

    • rogerthat

      http://www1.umn.edu/ships/ethics/minamata.htm

      The Poisoning of Minamata

      by Douglas Allchin

      It started out quite simply, with the strangeness of cats "dancing" in the street–and sometimes collapsing and dying. Who would have known, in a modest Japanese fishing village in the 1950s, that when friends or family members occasionally shouted uncontrollably, slurred their speech, or dropped their chopsticks at dinner, that one was witnessing the subtle early symptoms of a debilitating nervous condition caused by ingesting mercury?

      Yet when such scattered, apparently unconnected, and mildly mysterious events began to haunt the town of Minamata, Japan, they were the first signs of one of the most dramatic and emotionally moving cases of industrial pollution in history…

      • rogerthat

        … The outcome was tragic: a whole town was both literally and figuratively poisoned. Yet for those of us, now, who can view it more distantly, this episode also offers a conceptually clear and affectively powerful example of the concentration of elements in food chains, the sometimes unexpected interconnectedness of humans and their environment, and the complex interactions of biology and culture. In short, it is a paradigm for teaching ecology and science-society issues.

        The case of Minamata, Japan, and the mercury poisoning (originally called Minamata disease) that took place there, appeared briefly in news headlines in the 1970s and then receded from public attention–at least in the U.S. The episode was fully and richly documented, however, by former Life photographer, Eugene Smith, and his wife, Aileen, who lived in Minamata for several years. Much of what follows draws on their book (unfortunately, now out-of-print, but available in many libraries; see Smith and Smith 1972, 1975; Ishimure 1990)….

  • rogerthat

    http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/news/nuclear.html

    … The 7 municipalities, all located within 31 kilometers of the plant, decided to ask Chubu Electric Power Company to sign an agreement promising to seek their approval before key operational changes at the plant.
    The power company already has such an agreement with Omaezaki and 3 other cities closest to the plant.

    The 7 municipalities plan to present their demand to the prefectural government on Wednesday before starting negotiations with the utility.

    Chubu Electric says it cannot comment as it has not yet seen the documents, but that it will consider the demand.

    A number of municipalities across Japan have been seeking promises of advance approval or consultation before reactors are put back online.

    But power companies are reluctant to oblige.
    In the case of Sendai nuclear plant in Kagoshima Prefecture, its operator has signed safety agreements only with the plant's host city and the prefecture.

  • Bill Duff

    The Pilgrims encountered a deadly epidemic among the American Indians as related in 'Of Plymouth Plantation', by Governor William Bradford, circa 1630 AD. The afflicted natives were weak, unable to lift their heads. Their skin would slough off.

    Out of compassion and a sense of moral obligation, 'Christian Duty', volunteers rendered care. The Pilgrims were surprised that none of their own ever contracted the disease. The natives would flee their villages when any member of the tribe exhibited the symptoms. They would request that the Pilgrims tend the sick; and were always obliged.

  • Bill Duff

    Roman Army siege tactics included launching excrement, diseased animals and dead humans over the walls. Sometimes the Roman Legions succeeded in sparking an epidemic among their enemies. Biological warfare tactics are quite ancient.

  • Bill Duff

    The false promises, fraudulent science, health hazards, environmental degradation and leachlike economics of the Nuclear Village have drawn our enduring ire.

    It is HIGH TIME to shut those badboys down!

  • Bill Duff

    On Friday, Luminant, a subsidiary of Dallas-based Energy Future Holdings, suspended its application to the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission to build two new reactors at the plant. Its partner on the project, Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, said it was focusing on getting its nuclear reactors in Japan back in operation.

  • Bill Duff

    NRG Energy had been working toward getting a license from the NRC to expand its South Texas Project nuclear facility outside Bay City on the expectation that power prices will one day rise.

    But last month the nuclear agency ruled that a deal with Japanese industrial giant Toshiba to fund the project through a loan violated U.S law prohibiting foreign control of nuclear power plants. http://www.dallasnews.com/business/energy/20131108-expansion-of-comanche-peak-nuclear-power-plant-suspended.ece?nclick_check=1

    • Sickputer

      Bill: regarding 2013 ruling against Toshiba for the Bay City, Texas nuclear reactor expansion:

      The NRC 2013 ruling was reversed in 2014 thus keeping Toshiba's shaky option alive:

      http://www.elp.com/articles/2014/04/nrc-grants-nrg-approval-to-expand-south-texas-nuclear-plant.html

      SP: Just nucleoape posturing and greasing some greedy palms. The likelihood of a nuclear expansion in America is slim. People may be braindead from the "stupid" algae, but the bankers aren't going to approve funding in Frack World Texas. They could build 20 gas plants with 5 times the electricity output as the nuclear bid. Flaring valuable gas in south and west Texas is not something the electric grid wants or needs. There's consumer gold in those stinky burning flares of desirable energy.

      • Bill Duff

        Very little Gas Flaring in Texas but check North Dakota

        The Commission’s Statewide Rule 32 allows an operator to flare gas while drilling a well and for up to 10 days after a well’s completion for operators to conduct well potential testing. The majority of flaring permit requests received by the Commission are for flaring cashinghead gas from oil wells. Permits to flare from gas wells are not typically issued as natural gas is the main product of a gas well. http://www.rrc.state.tx.us/about-us/resource-center/faqs/oil-gas-faqs/faq-flaring-regulation/

      • Bill Duff

        Texas Cited by Democrat as Model for Less Flaring After Fracking
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        Texas should be the model for other states as officials seek to reduce the need to burn, or flare off, methane coming from oil and gas wells drilled by hydraulic fracturing, a top Senate Democrat said.

        Senator Ron Wyden, chairman of the Energy and Natural Resources Committee, praised Texas for a flaring rate of 0.5 percent of the gas it produces.

        “I want to hear what the industry can do to get other states’ levels of flaring down to Texas’ levels,” Wyden of Oregon said at a committee roundtable with gas producers and environmental groups in Washington.

        With an oil boom in North Dakota, drillers are flaring 30 percent of the gas being released, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration. The activity drew global attention after NASA distributed a nighttime photograph showing the lights from flaring towers and oil-field equipment in a state with 9.7 residents per square mile in 2010. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-23/texas-cited-by-democrat-as-model-for-less-flaring-after-fracking.html

          • Bill Duff

            Actually the NASA picture of North Dakota Bakken Formation region tells the SAME Story.

            Although beginning 10/01/2014 even North Dakota has cut their flare rate to under 10% of natural gas production. To give credit where credit is due

          • Bill Duff

            About one-third of the natural gas North Dakota has produced in recent years has been flared rather than sold to customers or consumed on-site. The rapid growth in North Dakota oil production, which rose from more than 230,000 barrels per day (bbl/d) in January 2010 to more than 1,130,000 bbl/d in August 2014, has led to increased volumes of associated gas, or natural gas that comes from oil reservoirs. These increased volumes require additional infrastructure to gather, process, and transport gas volumes instead of flaring them. These additions can take time to build, and well operators are often reluctant to delay production. In an effort to reduce the amount of natural gas flared, North Dakota's Industrial Commission (NDIC) established targets that decrease the amount of flared gas over the next several years.

            The first target of 26% flared is set for fourth-quarter 2014, with continued decreases in flaring reaching 10% by 2020 http://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.cfm?id=18451

        • Bill Duff

          Sickputer can U read?

  • Bill Duff

    Energy Future Holdings Corp., forced by rebel lenders to sell assets to the highest bidder, said a sale might incur a tax bill so steep that it would be forced to liquidate. As a holding company, Energy Future wouldn’t be able to pay the taxes,

    http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-10-02/energy-future-sees-liquidation-prospects-on-tax-bill

  • Bill Duff

    Nuclear Power Generation is NOT a competitive source of electricity.

  • Sickputer

    Now, now Bill…no need to feel offended. What regulators (poor word for that puny role in energy waste) report and what is real differs far from the official estimates. YMMV. 🙂

  • Bill Duff

    Texas has installed massive natural gas turbine generation to back up the unreliable Wind Generation Farms. When the wind blows, about 25% of the time, the Gas fired Jet engines idle, saving about 90% of their full load fuel burn rate. The other 75% of the time, the natural gas turbine generators are the primary AC electrical power provider.

    Selling AC electricity as well as natural gas.

  • Sickputer

    You need to relax a bit. Don't get me started on wind energy either because you are wrong there also (25% of the time the wind blows?).

    Well, it has been 25 percenting me about 300 days this year (and we have about 50 days left).

    Read the wind report for Texas:

    http://governor.state.tx.us/files/ecodev/renewable_energy.pdf

    Page 13

    • Bill Duff

      ntegrating random, highly variable wind energy into an electricity system presents substantial problems that subvert wind technology’s ability to offset the use of fossil fuels–and avoid air emissions, including carbon dioxide (CO2). Measuring this accurately is important because many believe that wind projects significantly reduce such emissions.

      This analysis finds that natural gas used as wind back-up in place of baseload or intermediate gas (in the absence of wind) results in approximately the same gas burn and an increase in related emissions, including CO2. Extrapolating from this example to the whole, the working hypothesis is that intermittent wind (and solar) are not effective CO2 mitigation strategies because of inefficiencies introduced by fast-ramping (inefficient) operation of gas turbines for firming otherwise intermittent and thus non-usable power. https://www.masterresource.org/wind-power/wind-integration-incremental-emissions-from-back-up-generation-cycling-part-i-a-framework-and-calculator/

    • Bill Duff

      Natural gas is domestic. America has the most abundant supply of natural gas in the world. By utilizing natural gas found right here at home, we improve energy security and independence.

      Even as more alternative energy comes online, traditional power sources remain necessary. As a low-emission fuel, natural gas generates reliable electricity and provides critical back-up power when solar and wind resources aren't available. And with 50 percent fewer air emissions, natural gas provides a clean alternative to burning coal. http://www.semprausgp.com/energy-solutions/natural-gas-benefits.html

    • Bill Duff

      Installed Wind Generation Capacity does not translate into instantaneously available AC electrical power, in Texas, Denmark, England, Australia or offshore Martha's Vineyard. Wind Generation Nameplate Capacity is not a substitute for reliability or cost effective AC electrical power. 22.5% natural gas use reduction, via use of intermittent Wind Generation is about as good as it gets. 90 percent reduction in natural gas fuel use about 25 percent of the time.

      0.90 X 0.25 = 22.5%

      Natural gas produces only half as much CO2 as Coal and ZERO fission products. Only Hydroelectric is a reliable, available and cleaner alternative than Natural Gas.

  • Bill Duff

    I am in for the penny but not the pound. I favor reducing the USA civilian nuclear power plant inventory from 100 to about 5 or 10 new reactors of various designs and technologies. The fleet would be a hedge against an uncertain energy future. They should be constructed underground, below the fresh groundwater tables; for safety purposes.

    I do not favor eliminating the nuclear arsenal, which has proven to be a significant deterrent. Count me OUT on the totally nuclear free vision/delusion thing.

  • Instead of believing what some carbon fuel junkie pusher is selling, maybe look at some reality?

    Offshore Wind Energy; 4 X The Energy Potential Of ALL Existing Power Plants In US Today, Including Nuclear; via A Green Road
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2013/02/offshore-wind-energy-4-x-energy.html

    • Bill Duff

      DG, you don't want to argue electrical power generation with a degreed electrical engineer with a power specialty.

      • 😐

        Not another 'all knowing' totally anonymous entity who constantly goes off topic. 😉

        We can spot a trolling 'Factchucker' when we see one.

        • Bill Duff

          There are always a few Purple Kool-AID guzzlers in any reform movement.

          I favor a DRASTIC reduction in the civilian nuclear power generation sector.

          • Sickputer

            Yes, I favor a drastic reduction in American nuclear power plants…a 100% reduction.

            We could survive the loss of all those creaky old monsters easier than the Japanese (and I don't recall blackouts occuring in the last 14 months when ALL the nuclear power plants in Japan have been shutdown!

            Yes, they have gone into more government debt. Big deal…the US will probably declare bankruptcy itself some day when the foreign debt holders find out their trillions in gold "certificates" in America are probably worth 5 cents on the dollar (the two year efforts for reclamation by Germany's for their American gold bullion has been such an eyeopener in its lackluster transfer of impure gold bars. Old melted Roosevelt confiscated gold coins melted into 92% gold bars. Not quite the pure bars they paid for and oh the US has said it will take SEVEN years to ship the German shares in bars from Ft. Knox. The $35 billion German share could fit on three planes so that excuse doesn't sound right.

            Big Brothers raped the Social Security taxes for 2 trillion dollars over the past 30 years to pay the fat cat military industrial complex to blow the shit out of various enemies. Big corporations raped the government for another $30 trillion in onshore and offshore tax shelters set up by their paid stooges in Washington. Enough money squandered that could have fully funded national health care, paid the national debt, and put solar panels on every roof in America. YMMV

    • Bill Duff

      Covering 10% of the oceans with solar voltaic panels would be an ecological disaster. That would be the close to shore waters. Beyond that is too far to efficiently transmit power.

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Well then what about this one, since we have already trashed the ground that paved roads represent.
        http://www.solarroadways.com/intro.shtml

        • Bill Duff

          Solar Voltaic panels are useful about 6 hours per day, 25% of the time, on average. Wind power is available on a random basis, also about 25% of the time. Solar is more predictable. Together, they cannot produce reliable AC electrical power, more than 1/3 of the time, without enormous batteries or natural gas turbine generator backup. This is the case, no matter how large the wind/solar generation farm, or where it is located.

          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            My off grid friends who have plenty of power using solar and wind they put up themselves laugh when goofballs say solar and wind cant produce reliable power more than 1/3 the time.

            And their battery packs arent very big either. This is typical of pro nukers; They are smart enough to design nuclear plants but cant make solar and wind work! I think a few descriptive words are appropriate here…like delusional murderous fools. More Duff beer for everybody!

            • Bill Duff

              The USA Coast Guard requires an 8 day battery for offshore warning lights on stationary platforms. An 8 hour recharge period is essential to maintain battery life for most technologies.

              I have engineered and delivered more solar voltaic battery power systems than anybody else here, including inverters for AC power. I can make them work, within their inherent physical limitations.

              Let's not be conned by 'Earth Mothers' or 'Team Nuke'.

              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                So glad you delivered 8 day battery time for offshore warning lights…including AC inverters…ooohh, impressive! A round of Duff beer is called for! Did you provide gas turbine backup for the coastguard because solar "cannot produce reliable AC electrical power, more than 1/3 of the time" ?

                Solar powered Yacht cruises into London, Duff warns it cant work 66% of the time! Laughs and more Duff beer for everyone!!! Yeah!! hic!
                http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130905120415-solar-boat-tower-bridge-london-horizontal-gallery.jpg

                • Bill Duff

                  Do you prefer DARKNESS and sea collisions to the USCG 8 Day Battery requirement?

                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    Bill, I believe your point above was that solar and wind are not reliable 66% of the time, (and I guess you would add not cost effective) and thus we must keep nuclear and other toxic detrimental energy generating systems. The fact (?) that you yourself can install an 8 day solar system for the coastguard…thats what I understood…rather disproves your point of solar unreliability more than proving it. Now asking whether I like darkness and ship collisions is, as far as I can tell, utterly irrelevant. Specialized missions require specialized systems, but the fact is, most homes can use passive heating, solar for lighting and to run some motors for this and that. Drying clothes outside is not such a bad thing…esp if the alternative is a dead ocean from nuclear

                    Homer loves Duff beer! Excellent!

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        10% of the ocean surface required for solar? This is what happens to brains on nuke. Fried

        The Sahara desert has 20x the area required to power the world with solar.

        http://landartgenerator.org/blagi/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/AreaRequired1000.jpg

        According to the United Nations 170,000 square kilometers of forest is destroyed each year. If we constructed solar farms at the same rate, we would have enough solar for the world in 3 years.

    • Bill Duff

      Here is a reasonably decent estimator for solar voltaic systems. Not too complicated for non-technical types. It covers the basic cost constraints. The problem gets tougher when you turn the HVACR on. Lighting is less than 1 kW for a small house.

      http://www.nmsea.org/Curriculum/7_12/Cost/calculate_solar_cost.htm

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        $600 to purchase and install a 75 watt panel? See, thats the first problem right there; assumptions! How different the world would be if it was assumed that nuclear would kill everybody and that solar could come down in price with dedicated engineering and a different economic structure!

        It reminds me a little of the electric car conundrum. "cant be done" "batteries the size of a refrigerator, and the cost of a gold plated Rolls Royce" When in fact, 100 years ago electric cars were a common feature of the roadway. What, you cant make progress in 100 years?

        Already in 1899, an electric car covered 100 miles on a single charge. In 1909, Emil Gruenfeldt of the Baker Motor Vehicle Company covered 160.8 miles on a single charge in his Baker Electric Roadster. Since then, we learned about streamlining which would have brought the velocity to modern standards. …yeah, 100 years ago….you got more a that Duff beer?

        • Bill Duff

          Physically realizable battery constraints

          The 2014 Arrhenius equation-based mathematics describe the temperature-dependent degradation rates of electrochemical cells, which remain unchanged.

          And I prefer Shiner Bock beer

  • 😐

    "I favor …new reactors of various designs and technologies."
    – B. Duff

    Who's the moron now?

    "…can U read?"
    – B. Duff

    IMO – The RISKS and COSTS of Nuclear Power are simply too great under any circumstance. Fukushima's TRIPLE MELTDOWNS are proof of that.

    "I am not offended or amused by liars, fools and/or ignoramuses."
    – B. Duff

    Then look in a mirror. 😉

    • Bill Duff

      A 90% to 95% reduction in nuclear power plants in the USA is achievable. 100% elimination of nuclear reactors, even those for physics research purposes, and medical treatments IS SIMPLY NOT going to happen.

  • If renewables are so useless and worthless, why are the carbon and fuel monopolies so scared of it and trying to stomp the life out of it?

    FREE Solar Power Can Generate Enough Energy To Replace All Power Stations Globally ; 100% of New Power In USA Added To Grid In March 2013 Came From Solar Power; via @AGreenRoad
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2013/05/100-of-new-power-added-to-grid-in-march.html

    • Bill Duff

      It would require a solar voltaic panel surface the size of New Mexico, and a battery the size of Rhode Island, to supply the energy and power needs of Houston. And that would displace a lot of critters and native plants.

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        Bill Duff, are you sure about that solar area requirement? Its funny when people argue the math of solar and wind because I visit friends who are totally off the grid using solar and their quality of life is superior to any grid chained borg dweller they have the audacity to call civilized.

        You wanna keep deadly nuclear around like its an imperative which is the same uber foolish reasoning its always been. Dead zones surrounded by sick zones. History proves that man lived and animals thrived…for all of history…until the specter of nuclear arrived. You folks who argue uninterrupted power 24/7 on a master grid are out of your effin minds. Go contemplate a Van Gogh for a while and consider the power infrastructure that existed for 99.9% of mans history.

        Denholm and colleague NREL Robert Margolis estimate that if solar PV were used to meet 100 percent of U.S. electricity demand, it would take up about 0.6 percent of the total area of the country, or less than 2 percent of the land dedicated to cropland and grazing.

        The photovoltaic cycle requires the least amount of land among renewable-energy options, while the biomass cycle requires the largest amount. Moreover, in most cases, ground-mount PV systems in areas of high insolation transform less land than the coal-fuel cycle. In terms of land occupation, the biomass-fuel cycle requires the greatest amount, followed by the nuclear-fuel cycle.

        • Bill Duff

          Point of use energy conversion, such as natural gas air conditioning, is critical. Then roof mounted solar and wind CAN do the rest.

          Air conditioning is ESSENTIAL to modern life in the American South, just as HEATING is required in the American Northern states. HVACR heating, ventilation, air conditioning and refrigeration are, by far and away, the largest power uses in homes. Electrical motors consume 65 to 70 percent of the AC electrical power. Those motors deliver water and sewage services to our homes and businesses. Lighting was once about 21% of our power usage but is lower now. Computers and communication gear (cell towers) have taken up most of the lighting efficiency gains.

          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            Home heating…and even cooling, can be 90% passive. Its tragic that architects and civil engineers are stuck in a non sustainable land of stupid when the technology is here, now, and too easy to argue about. The word ESSENTIAL is not the same as IMPERATIVE. Essential is an opinion, and as it turns out, not a very well considered one. Kind of like a chicken in a coop running around clucking that the grain trough is ESSENTIAL for chickens around the world, when in fact chickens survived 100,000 years (figuratively) without a food trough, and incidentally avoided the chopping block.

  • The nuclear PR machine is putting out all kinds of lies and deceptive advertising via the corporate owned mass media monopoly, so many are drinking that Kooooollllaaaiiddd

    What is the reality?

    Nuclear Energy As A Direct Cause Of Global Warming, Acid Rain, Acid Oceans And Super Storms; via @AGreenRoad
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2013/12/nuclear-energy-as-direct-cause-of.html

  • Yea, let's maintain that nuclear arsenal, because there is no risk in that, and it maintains our safety and security, right?

    Wrong! Shaking that treee… shaking it good.

    20+ Close Calls; Why MAD Total Nuclear Global World War III Almost Happened 20 Times So Far, What Happens AFTER A Global Nuclear War? via @AGreenRoad
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2014/05/13-close-calls-why-mad-total-nuclear.html

    • Bill Duff

      Hopefully our coalition to dismantle the civilian nuclear reactor business and reduce the AC electrical power grid inefficiency will not become a mutual suicide pact.

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        dismantling civilian nuclear business a suicide pact? Some people have a condition known as "grid brain" which is a well defined psychopathy. The only deadly thing about dismantling the nuclear business is when the mafia murders whistleblowers, or when they cant store their poison, which has been the case since the get-go.

        Is Duff for real, or is it some kooky joke based on the Simpsons? I can see Monty Burns now…"excellent" "so easy to fool the flock. Duff beer laced with a little fluoride works wonders for those little uprisings"

        http://www.thestand.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/monty-burns-L.jpg

        • Bill Duff

          Are CodeShutdown, ChasAha and DrGH living in the real world?

          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            My friends (more than one) who live high Q lives off grid using solar sure live in the real world. More Duff beer for everybody…hic! Remember the real world didnt have your precious grid, nuclear "so your laptop can keep running on cloudy days" and your convoluted thinking that always MUST include your poisonous revenue generating precious until the last wee itsy bitty century…the most catastrophic thin page in history…

          • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

            Count me out…on the my way or no way delussional attempt of saving global current overheating economic and social structure's… on a dying planet…with their centralised power/profit technologic structures and thinking…and their logic decadence..aka modern world..if people wanne survive in the long run…they will have to cut a LOT of dead by cancer wood from our tree of life…all our mistakes truout history..aka choices sterilised of all vision based in biologic's reality..and nurture the rest with an new enlightened approach…that FIRMLY avoid's making the same mistakes again..we're better start the cutting in the tought pattern's today.. , as deep as needed..that relates directly to the amount of time we waste..before finally giving up on desires our world can not/no longer support..including our deadly choice how we use energy…and how much we think we need..for what activity..
            If the prevailing attitude will be… from my cold dead pusher hands and that of my brainwashed addicted hostages…well..there is no stopping you..but i would not consider that something to celebrate..in the long run…

            I'm not pointing solely at you personally BD , it is not ment as an insult…well..it is partly..and a warning..but for the whole world..you just inspired me thas all.. 🙂

            • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

              …and the "real" world..is more than the biological subsystem of our species…or their disconnected ego..let alone their "economic subsystem's"…those are just malevolent activities…

          • 😐

            This TROLL is once again attempting to CONtrol a comment forum like it was its own private chat room. Avoiding the topic at hand and rarely providing a link to mostly moronic claims.

            This entity, like it's eerily similar predecessors, provokes via name calling and prepubescent logic.

            Making claims of being a professional, but unable to point to anything they've actually done. That would be like saying, I have the superpower of 'invisibility', but only when you close your eyes. 😉

  • Bill Duff

    I don't have many arguments with physical reality and realizable systems.

    'Levelized Cost and Levelized Avoided Cost of New Generation Resources in the Annual Energy Outlook 2014', Release date: April 17, 2014

    This paper presents average values of levelized costs for generating technologies that are brought online in 20191 as represented in the National Energy Modeling System (NEMS) for the Annual Energy Outlook 2014 (AEO2014) Reference case.2 Both national values and the minimum and maximum values across the 22 U.S. regions of the NEMS electricity market module are presented.

    http://www.eia.gov/forecasts/aeo/electricity_generation.cfm

  • All the nuke parent companies will be bankrupt by the time the real price of decomm comes around….shite we can't even get them to

    Cask the trash!

  • rogerthat

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmRB9TToZ4c

    Fukushima: How Do You Stop Nuclear Scientist From Killing Everything

    BeautifulGirlByDana

  • rogerthat

    http://www.fairewinds.org

    Whose Fault?

    November 10th, 2014

    If an earthquake fault caused a nuclear accident at California’s Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power Plant, whose fault would it be? Did you know that Diablo Canyon is adjacent to two active earthquake faults: the Hosgri and Shoreline faults?

    When we think of earthquake damage we think of buildings shaking and crumbling, pipes bursting and breaking. Diablo Canyon would suffer not only these traditional earthquake disasters, but also severe, dangerous mechanical threats.

    Arnie explains something engineers call “relay chatter”. In three short video segments, he shows us what relays are and how a seismic event would wreak havoc at Diablo Canyon causing “relay chatter”. In addition, its proximity to two earthquake faults leaves it at risk for other mechanical failures and safety issues.

    In this Fairewinds’ Video, Arnie Gundersen shares key points from his expert report for Friends of the Earth (FoE) regarding Diablo Canyon’s seismic quandary. Arnie’s expert report is below, along with the entire FoE legal case file and submittal to the NRC…

  • rogerthat

    http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/?p=14080

    TEPCO Publishes Arrogant Press Release To The US On Fukushima
    November 11

    As news came out about yet another finding of Fukushima radioactive contamination offshore of North America, TEPCO published a rather bizarre press release.

    The corporate statement insists the contamination “Level raises no concern for human or animal health”. This is a bit like taking healthy food advice from McDonalds.

    They go on to misrepresent statements made by Woods Hole for their own purposes including one twisted to try to claim cesium doesn’t contaminate fish…

  • rogerthat

    http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/?p=14071

    SimplyInfo » The Latest » Fukushima Contaminated Food Was Found In US Right After The Meltdowns
    Fukushima Contaminated Food Was Found In US Right After The Meltdowns
    November 11

    A presentation given at a recent American Chemical Society meeting outlined the discovery of Fukushima radioactive contamination in food soon after the disaster. Private sector testing done for food importers in the US did find contamination in some food items sent in for testing. Since this work was done with a private lab by a food company there was no mandate to make this information public.

    One sample of imported fresh fish from Japan intended for sushi was found to have iodine 131. A sample of Koji powder was also found to be contaminated.

    The koji sample had not just iodine 131 but cobolt 60, radioactive silver, tellurium 132, cesium 134 and cesium 137. Contamination was also found in imported green tea samples and seaweed. The samples were below the US intervention level, but the intervention level isn’t a safety limit and it far higher than most consider safe…

    More information on the company that did the testing:
    http://www.radsafe.com/?page_id=26
    The power point presentation given at the ACS meeting:
    https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/19UCMbAHHowUQEltyJo4lxFiqbFxwGyoHNZAw_E1cUQA/edit?usp=sharing

    image credit | The Simpsons

    This article would not be possible without the extensive efforts of the SimplyInfo research…

  • rogerthat

    Meanwhile, in a different world:
    http://www.iaea.org
    10 November 2014
    Protecting the Consumer by Enhancing Food Safety and Security
    Detecting unsafe food, fighting food fraud and food irradiation are among the key issues that will be addressed this week at a gathering of international organizations, scientists, policy makers, experts and Member States delegates attending the FAO/IAEA International Symposium on Food Safety and Quality.

    Read more →

    10 November 2014
    Honouring Scientific Discoveries, Innovation, and Progress
    Through science we can uncover the beauties and mysteries of the natural world. Careful observations and experiments allow us to develop a deeper understanding of how the world works and discover new layers of the complex systems around us, from the immensity of the universe to the power of the tiny atom. In commemorating hundreds of years of scientific study, the IAEA is joining the international community in celebrating World Science Day for Peace and Development on 10 November 2014.

    Read more →

    – ''detecting unsafe food' ha ha ha, these people come from a different galaxy

  • rogerthat

    http://lucian.uchicago.edu/blogs/atomicage/

    Update — Dangerous Uranium Hexafluoride Leak Worse Than Initially Reported, Regulator Says via NEIS

    – This is an excellent piece of work, worth reading in full. It's By Norma Field – 2014/11/10

    • rogerthat

      and another:

      http://lucian.uchicago.edu/blogs/atomicage/

      Car bomb, house explosion rock solar energy campaign in Louisiana via fusion.net

      The home and two cars of a campaign finance director for a pro-solar energy candidate running for Louisiana’s utility regulatory board were blown up Thursday.

      No one was injured in the explosions, and authorities have yet to established a direct link between the apparent attacks and the campaign’s efforts to promote solar energy, according to local station WWL.

      But the ATF is assisting in the investigation of the incidents, according to NOLA.com. The finance director targeted, Mario Zervigon, a well known political operative in the state, is taking a break from campaigning for candidate Forest Bradley-Wright.

      Bradley-Wright is campaigning on a program that allows Louisiana solar-panel users to continue to sell their excess electricity to utility companies. He is facing incumbent Eric Skrmetta, who seeks a cap on how much electricity solar customers can sell. They are competing in a run-off election for a seat on Louisiana’s Public Service Commission, which sets electricity rates in the state. Bradley-Wright has received most of his campaign funds from the solar industry, according to WWL.

      Read more.

      By norma field – 2014/11/10

  • rogerthat

    http://lucian.uchicago.edu/blogs/atomicage/

    As U.S. nuclear arsenal ages, other nations have modernized via Los Angeles Times
    […]

    The debate over how to modernize America’s aging nuclear forces has taken on increasing urgency with the emergence of a newly assertive Russia and a new generation of nuclear powers with increasing technological sophistication.

    North Korea, Pakistan and India all are working quickly to improve their nuclear arsenals and delivery systems. By next year, China is expected to be capable of delivering a nuclear strike anywhere in the continental U.S. for the first time in its history — a threat that Russia has posed for decades.

    While the nuclear confrontation between the United States and Russia cooled off after the 1991 fall of the Soviet Union, it has never ended. Indeed, the long-held hope for continual reductions in nuclear forces now seems unattainable, nuclear arms analysts say. For the first time in years, the U.S. and Russia each have increased the number of nuclear warheads deployed over the latest six-month monitoring period — the U.S. by 57 additional weapons and Russia by 131…

    • rogerthat

      … Russia is spending $560 billion on military modernization over the next six years with 25% allocated to aging nuclear forces, part of a program to replace all of its Soviet Union-era launchers. U.S. officials say it will take at least $355 billion over the coming decade to upgrade America’s nuclear arsenal and keep up with the rearmament spree underway in the rest of the world.

      […]

      In rural Great Falls, Mont., a small ranch house stands on the prairie with a sign at the gated entrance that reads “Ace in the Hole.” The house, tucked amid the rolling hills just off Highway 200, is a facade for what lies beneath it.

      In a cramped capsule 70 feet below the house, Air Force Lt. Katie Grimley, 26, and Lt. Wesley Griffith, 28, command a fleet of 10 towering missiles capable of obliterating any spot on Earth in 30 minutes or less.

      The underground capsule is one of many launch-control centers spread across 28,852 acres at Malmstrom Air Force Base. When it was first built, it was equipped with the latest gadgetry that 1962 had to offer…

  • rogerthat

    … […]

    The $355-billion price tag for modernizing the aging U.S. “nuclear triad” of bombers, submarines and land-based missiles over the next decade may not even be realistic, according to Jeffrey Lewis, an analyst with the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies in Monterey. He said the actual expense, taking into account the tremendous spike in costs for new submarines, bombers and ballistic missiles, is likely to approach $1 trillion over the next 30 years.

    The Air Force is able to maintain about 98% of its existing ICBMs on alert, despite their age, but even that comes at a high price. Upkeep expenses over the last three years have increased 36% to about $1.3 billion when compared to the same time frame a decade ago.

    But can the U.S. afford to back away? Failure to maintain at least parity for U.S. nuclear forces could open the door to a fundamental recalculation in the balance of global power, analysts say.

    Read more at As U.S. nuclear arsenal ages, other nations have modernized

    Related video:

    Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Nuclear Weapons (HBO satirical comedy) via Youtube

    By yukimiyamotodepaul – 2014/11/10

    • rogerthat

      … just what we need. Gorbachev says a new cold war is beginning. Next step, a new arms race.

      Thirty years ago, they had enough nuclear weapons to kill the planet 12 times over. They had so many warheads that the few survivors of a first strike could be individually targeted by the remaining missiles.

      But, hey, what about the cockroaches? Let's build enough so we can individually target all the cockroaches who survive a first strike.

      The world is run by sociopaths. We elect these clowns. Atoms For Peace, ha ha ha ha ha

  • rogerthat

    http://lucian.uchicago.edu/blogs/atomicage/

    I Saw Nuclear Armageddon Sitting on My Desk via The Daily Beast

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