NYTimes: Human crisis unfolding in Fukushima — Many now realizing “we’re being lied to, they can’t fix things” — “Lies… They can’t handle it… Many here have given up” (VIDEO)

Published: October 2nd, 2013 at 12:53 pm ET
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Title: Near Fukushima, a Human Crisis Quietly Unfolds
Source: New York Times
Date: October 1, 2013

Photos: Near Fukushima, a Human Crisis Quietly Unfolds

[…] While the continuing environmental disaster at the Fukushima Daiichi plant has grabbed world headlines — with hundreds of tons of contaminated water flowing into the Pacific daily — a human crisis has been quietly unfolding.

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Video: Losing Hope in Fukushima

At 1:30 in

Hiroko Watabe: They said they would fix things but nothing has changed, and its over 2 1/2 years. They’re lies, huh?  And they can’t handle it, anyways. Many here have given up.

Sueko Tanaka: Many people say we’re being lied to, that they can’t fix things.

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Published: October 2nd, 2013 at 12:53 pm ET
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40 comments to NYTimes: Human crisis unfolding in Fukushima — Many now realizing “we’re being lied to, they can’t fix things” — “Lies… They can’t handle it… Many here have given up” (VIDEO)

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    R A D I A T I O N . . C A N C E R

    There's no fixing this nuclear disaster.

    Can't be done.

    Can't be fixed.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    There is no fixing this..
    And I am so very sorry to be one of those to bring this news.
    But in the sake of truth and mercy..I do believe that the people need to know..what lies before.. not only the people of Fukushima..but also what is at stake in the future for many life forms… perhaps all life forms on earth.
    This including my own loved one's.

    I bow sincerely.
    I am infinitesimally sorry.

  • nedlifromvermont

    so sad … could we have a little "truth time" from the Bigwigs, now???

    Still like your TepCo stock options?

    peace …

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Truth will always be the last thing to be told and all you have to do is look at your/our history..

  • or-well

    Decontamination is just rad relocation.
    To say you can't live HERE, but you can live one street over is absurd.

  • Gasser Gasser

    Summer Crime

    Its Dieichie fallout time ….and the liven' is no longer easy
    Fish have quit jumping' ….and the Geiger counter reads high

    
Oh! Your Daddy's dead ….and your Mammy is no longer lookin’ good
    
So, hush little contaminated baby ….don't you cry…

    One of these mornin's ….you're not gonna rise up singing'

    You'll spend your lifetime, hidden' ….from Plutonium 239 in the sky

    
But 'till that mornin' ….there's Iodine 131 that will harm you,

    without a Daddy and Mammy standin' by…

    After that mornin' there's more Istopes that can harm you,
    
without a Government or NRC nanny standin' by…

    
So hush little deformed baby's
    Don't you radioactively cry.

  • pkjn

    200,000 becquerels, such as strontium-90, per liter were detected
    Tokyo, Oct. 2 (Jiji Press)
    Tokyo Electric Unveils New Leak of Highly Radioactive Water
    Tokyo Electric said Wednesday that highly radioactive water leaked at its crippled Fukushima plant from a different water storage tank from the one where a similar leak was found in August.
    The amount of the leak is uncertain, but 200,000 becquerels of beta ray-emitting radioactive materials, such as strontium-90, per liter were detected in water inside the dikes surrounding the tank's area, according to Tokyo Electric. The water may have leaked outside the dikes, Tokyo Electric added.
    http://jen.jiji.com/jc/eng?g=eco&k=2013100300014

  • Nice to see NY Times reporting on Japanese government lies. De-contamination does work for the Japanese government as it looks like the contamination is being controlled, it keeps refugees hoping they can go back home and stalls legal action. Sad to see the refugees being strung along like this. That scene in the video of a remediated field next to kids playing soccer was disturbing. Politics getting in the way of common sense.

    • We Not They Finally

      You think that "contamination is being controlled" WHY?? Tiny measures that barely work and have to be re-done, as against HUGE measures that don't work and they haven't a clue? Would YOU feel safe living or working where they claim it had been "de-contaminated"?

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        WNTF, I think he means the decontamination meme makes it appear that radiation is being controlled, when in fact its not. The lie works for the government because they dont have to pay damages, they can try and wait for the refugees to die first, or postpone payment

  • dosdos dosdos

    It's becoming more and more obvious with the passing of time that the government is lying, and the people of Japan are surrendering to the inevitability. They are accepting the role of victim, when they need to fight the government, rise up and topple the human monsters who are killing them. Japan needs a revolution, and it's accepting doom. Unless the abusive authorities are denied power by the citizens, the future for Japan is pure tragedy.

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      Even if the people could stage a successful take over of the government, Tokyo and the north appear contaminated. There is zero chance of cleaning that much land. Evacuation seems nearly unlikely. Some opportunities are lost forever

      If there is mass revolt, whether Japan, the U.S. or elsewhere, expect military lock-down.

      • StPaulScout StPaulScout

        You can't clean anything up until you stop the spread of radiation into the environment. And that is not going to happen in any of our lifetimes.

    • We Not They Finally

      dosdos, Japan is not the United States or France. I don't believe that they have any tradition or ethic of revolution at all. It's about social compliance.

      Mass action is way overdue, but unsure what that might be.

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        if 80% could agree to stop paying tax until the government acted correctly, this would be the effective non violent way. The problem is orchestrating it. Why pay officials if they always lie and cheat? But the mafia is in the uranium plutonium business, that should give some idea of what the people are up against. Mafia, Yakuza, U.N. and the lollapalooza, theyre a sharp shooter, a high stakes looter, they dont use no pea shooter, they got a handle on the world wide territory, the global hood, they make sure you do what you should

        • We Not They Finally

          Maybe regarding taxation. But that would still take a massive number of people up front concurring that they must oppose the government. Every culture is different. In America when even a minority thinks that, they go whacko and destructive (witness you-know-what happening right now.) Japan is unlikely to look like America even under extreme stress. But we all seem to be waiting for SOMETHING.

      • unincredulous unincredulous

        Let's put The United States and France in chsrge of Fukushima contamination and see what happens, then.

        If they can't control it, they must be forced to admit they are acting irresponsibly in running nuke plants in the first place.

        Hanford, WA situation implies the US can't act responsibly, what about France. Any country popping out DU pills all over doesn't seem responsible at all.

        I say restrict government food rations to Pacific seafood and see how long they last…

  • afisher

    meanwhile, here in the US, fracking problems may be causing the same problem, just on a smaller scale: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-02/radiation-in-pennsylvania-creek-seen-as-legacy-of-frackin.html

  • They gave them just enough years on western processed junk food & fizzy kool aid, programming on their Tv, radio, internet, in their head with microwave towers, food & phones…. The populace were weakened before Fuku – no traditional fight left in them..

  • StPaulScout StPaulScout

    I think a fair number of people on this site need to realize that there is a very good chance, a very strong possibility, that after the reactors exploded and melted out, there is absolutely nothing anyone can do to fix this. Arnie Gunderson stated early on, "It's all physics now" meaning nature will take it's course and man can do nothing to intervene. Massive amounts of radiation have been and continue to be escaping thru all available vectors. It's blowing up into the air, it's going into the water. The air goes where the air goes and the water goes where the water goes. It can't be stopped. Call me a 'doom and gloom' type, but the fact is it can't be stopped. And yes, mankind fucked up big time on this one…..

    • We Not They Finally

      Alas, you are probably correct. Just three days before this happened, by some quirk of fate, my husband was sitting at the dining table lost in space, and he suddenly started saying, then again, "Something terrible is about to happen. It's the beginning of the end." When the earthquake struck, we did not even know yet of the tsunami, much less the nuclear disaster. But it was like CLEAR.

      It was never ever what we wanted to happen, but our paradigms have all shifted since then. We still don't want for it to have happened, and OF COURSE we want to see it mitigated. We're not fatalistic people, and we've always believed in human progress when people just pitch in and work and fight. But this is whatever it is.

      Which of course IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM excuses the monstrous handling of it in Japan or the monstrous policies worldwide which led up to it. And we still need to work and fight and educate. I just fear that your overall assessment is correct.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Some of this..acceptance.. has to be stalwart pragmatism.
    That harsh acceptance..many of us have only seen in our forefathers eyes.
    It's that fierce look in the eye of those who know..what is takes to care on.

    This acceptance can be seen as a bowing down..or a rising up as the people as they begin to contemplate their fate.

    May we watch with lowered and merciful eyes.

    • mungo mungo

      I wish I did have the strength to rise up, but it still won't help, not one bit.

      • We Not They Finally

        Well, rising up can also be internal. Value your own instincts and your worth as a human and that's actually a big help! Then feel for others and help them as well. For all of us I say this.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    As..usual..typo..worse when I'm upset..

    'or a rising up of the people as they begin to contemplate their fate'

  • hbjon hbjon

    I think you speak a lot of wisdom and some people just don't get it about the nature of this situation. People have a tendency to compare events with their own insignificant little day to day struggles. Even fire and police can't grasp the magnitude.

    Bankers say. "Throw money at it and make it stop". Nope, that solution doesn't work. Fire Dept. and Smokey Bear says, "throw water and lots of dirt on it and make it stop". Nope, that's not going to work. The army says, "let's blow the thing into the ocean with high explosives". Nope again. won't be very beneficial.

    Even the experts who have milked the system of 10 years of advanced education can only offer you potassium iodide tablets and speak of thunderous polysyllables that creates further distance and mystery in the minds of the people.

    The only solution is to reduce the quantity of exposed fuel by sucking it up in a dredge and storing the mixture in those tanks. Maybe someday they will be able to invent a way to filter and store it more safely.

    • We Not They Finally

      A vacuum cleaner for the exposed fuel? Haven't a clue of the practicality of that or any idea how it might be done. My understanding is that a lot of it is badly clumped together and/or inaccessible — not just physically inaccessible but way too "hot" to get anywhere near. Nor do they have viable tanks. Maximum estimate of how long they last: two years. Deliberate. By design.

      I know you mean well, but if this is "the only solution," we're still in deep doo-doo. But I'm sure that you already know that.

      • hbjon hbjon

        Yes WNTF. A vacuum cleaner with a lapidary saw blade at the nozzle. Cut, suck, dilute, repeat. Seems practical to me. It's not a vacuum cleaner tho. Actually, it shoots a very fast stream of water that makes surrounding water move fast. Called a dredge. My very first suggestion on 3/15/11. Of course this works best for loose sediment on the ocean floor, but can also work in SFP's to some extent if there is something that can break up or carve off small pieces at the intake.

        This is the only way I can think of to recover loose fuel, I'm sure it's been used. Filtering and storing what come out the other end is the hardest part. Anyway, if you were part of the discussion on 3/15 or 3/16 you probably remember my suggestions. We on PF were experiencing the situations in real time until someone shut up Tepco and turned off the real cameras.

  • harengus_acidophilus

    Interesting timing

    And the "claim of the day" isn't this foolish "government shutdown" (like in a third world country, politicans acts like children), it is "the JAPANESE radiation danger".

    Next claim is "be patriotic" …

    b.

    • Johnny Blade Johnny Blade

      I'd be willing to bet that the EPA was among,if not THE first govt. office to shut down operations??!! I'd wager that the US nuke plants likely operating without their assigned resident NRC inspectors(that is "if" their presence EVER has an impact on nuke ops?)-are probably taking advantage of the situation(?)!! Across the USA nuke plant operators are working overtime screaming "vent baby vent"(or chuck their molten "secret stashes"of damaged fuel rod assemblies,etc. hidden since unknown/undisclosed accident events into the nearest,convenient bodies of water or landfill??!! 😐 ) I recall Rahm Emanuel's comment/SOP made before becoming mayor of Chicago="Never let a crisis go to waste"…..TAKE CARE ENEWSER's! 😉 It's time for me to "shutdown"…PEACE

  • Socrates

    I have been following enenews since 3-11-11.

    I lived in Nevada from 1948 until 1954. Above-ground testing was underway. The government was irresponsible in exposing people to above-ground testing. JFK stopped it but the French persisted until 1980.

    I used to argue that being safe 99% of the time is not enough with a large magnitude event. Fukushima will go on past our lifetimes in terms of air, water and ocean consequences. The deposition of cesium on land from precipitation will end up in plants and animals. The ongoing nature of the Fukushima events will be a million times more important than 9-11, for example.

    The BP spill and Fukushima prove that dangerous energy sources destroy the eco-system and make living impossible for all forms of animals and plants. Low dose but continuous exposure, both internal and external, spells death.

    No amount of lies will change this truth. There is nothing to be done that I can see.

    • rakingmuck

      Like you I have been here since 3/11. I too have accepted "no amount of lies will change this truth" and "there is nothing to be done." But this website is the only refuge I have for this acceptance. Not one person in my life accepts this truth and further will no longer listen to anything I have to say on this subject. It is hard enough to find the inner strength to accept the truth and get on every day, but the loneliness of having no one to share this awful truth with hurts more than words can explain.

  • Wyakin Wyakin

    Hbjon- congratulations, IMHO you’ve earned the contributor’s award of the month (No Sarc). I like your thinking out of the conventional box on your vacuum idea and you deserve any resulting royalties.

    (All ENE readers)We need more of that from those of us who are not of the nuclear nitwit crowd. Yes, I think we are possibly screwed from this event. “Lies are terrible.” But let’s start leveraging this event to maximize the potential to contain this disaster and ban NE.

    Much of what we scientifically assume is based on shallow foundations. I am not a regular contributor due to the lack of time, but need to point out some scientific realities I question which deviate from some of the historical posts.

    Most know the traditional vectors of contamination and cite avoiding Pacific seafood, mushrooms and West Coast produce, rain, etc. Agreed on the seafood, possibly certain regions of the West US which have had prior radioactive releases, but understanding the geographic location of where something comes from is not equivalent to understanding what you are eating. Most do not realize what sea life is used for in commercial agriculture.

    As examples, check out the use of seaweed, agar, the use of kelp/oyster shell/fish meal, etc. in organically certified farming (commercial is worse), the use of eggs in vaccine production, the purpose of feed rendering plants, the source of their biological inputs, and the likely radioactive bio accumulation these factories achieve…

  • Wyakin Wyakin

    Further, the historical and high level of radioactive fallout attributed to US cold war testing appear to have fallen predominantly East of the Utah, NV, and NM test sites.

    I’d appreciate the sharing of results of of any comparative GS food statistical analysis performed in these respective regions in recent history.

    The claim I have seen here many times, “Mushrooms have no nutritional value and are radioactive” is patently false. It depends on where they are grown (poop media=little/no nutrition). Alt. grown in radioactive free media in aseptic and radiation free grow rooms makes a substantial difference in nutrient and radiation content.

    Newsflash-Japanese researcher Dr. Chiuhara ( circa 1978) was one of the first to publish on the anticancer properties of Shitake (Lentinula edodes), citing Lentinan, a water soluble polysaccharide (β-1,3 glucan with β-1,6 and β-1,3 glucopyranoside branching). This mushroom also contains protein, niacin, thiamin, riboflavin, ash, fiber and fat. Shitake does not stand alone. (No nutrients!-sarc) With regards to corn fed and grass fed beef, follow the breadcrumbs.

    The concern for the macro/micro fauna genome I wholly support. But I cannot understand why we do not have any molecular biologists providing some insight here into the effect of radiation on prokaryotic microorganisms. (con't)

  • Wyakin Wyakin

    In contrast to the mythology humans are at the top of the pyramid of the food chain, the historical evidence suggests the contrary, that humans are at the bottom and microorganisms are at the top.

    For those who need a plainly stated synopsis of this thesis and historical case studies of opportunistic microorganisms read Laurie Garrett, MD. “The Coming Plague.”

    Nonetheless, you should be aware radiation induced evolution will not just affect the mental and physical disposition of humans and the other beings you can see, it will inevitably change the behavior and the abilities of our predators. Consider the effects on plasmids, and microorganisms that have the potential for horizontal gene transfer, transformation, transduction, etc.

    On positive note, the possibilities spun out of this event are endless, from the methods through which this waste can be minimized, water diverted from the site, the development of closed loop systems, the leveraged use of this event as the catalyst for the banning of nuclear energy, the recognition that radiation levels in food are linked to much more than location of food production, and the understanding that this contamination is likely having effects at a molecular level on all life forms including our predators.

    Let’s not forget the importance of focus and using our collective energies. Do your part to raise awareness. Peace…

  • rakingmuck

    I have accepted it is how I spend the time left that is the only thing that matters. My personal legacy and karma. Wishing peace to all.

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Humanism – people helping people…die.

    Hey, atheist humanists where is your god now?

    Just thinking … suppose some would want me to lie …cover up my thoughts.

    Well let's all rise up now, When there is nothing that can be done…

    When everyone is just figuring out the best way to die … and laughing at those people on their knees praying … wouldn't the best, most honorable way of dying be: to let others live, and pray to whom they like? As to choice, Jesus used persuasion, not force, and Islam accepts Jesus as a prophet. So let's all get a grip and die peacefully, shall we. No more DEM-REP bickering. Only world peace we get is at the wake of humanity.

    Hey you , the one down on your knees,
    get up and do something useful, if you please.
    like bring me a coke;
    What you are now doing looks like a joke.
    When I was the CEO, of the great and powerful OZ,
    I brought you all nuke power, and so I raise my shnoz.
    The least you can do is thank me…as you die.
    Que sera, sera…

  • FXofTruth

    Now is the time for a brave new solution!
    Giving up doesn't give Mankind any chance for surviving this Man made disaster! The World is going to end completely in 100 years or less at the rate this mess is expanding.

    There is one logical idea that I found that would (of course) have risks but, if we don't do something soon….the game is finished.

    Drilling underneath the 3 melting coriums at levels of 1/4 mile, 1/2 mile, 1 mile, 2 miles, 3 miles and further – Nuclear shaped charges could carve out huge areas for the coriums to drop deeper into the earth. By sequencing the explosions from the top down, each would open a path for the coriums to follow.

    There is not enough water on the planet to cool these pieces of Hell that have been created! These coriums either get buried as deep as possible so water doesn't need to be wasted on them or, we get buried by deadly radiation….the only choices we have.