Official: Breach at Fukushima reactor blamed on saltwater corrosion — Over 75 tons of highly radioactive liquid flowing out everyday (PHOTOS & VIDEO)

Published: May 29th, 2014 at 9:03 am ET


Kyodo News, May 28, 2014: [Tepco] has identified the location of a leak at the bottom of the container in the No. 1 reactor […] water was leaking from a joint in a pipe […] The metal bellow joint is likely to have been corroded [“destruction of materials from chemical reaction“] by seawater [the Tepco official said.] The official denied the possibility that the leakage was caused because the earthquake damaged equipment. He said the company will continue to investigate if there are other areas of leakage nearby.

Jiji Press, May 28, 2014: Tepco said it had confirmed water was leaking from a pipe in the reactor containment vessel inside the plant’s No. 1 reactor building. The utility used a camera-mounted remote-controlled robot […] water was leaking from the vessel’s bottom near the pipe, at a rate of up to 3.2 tons per hour [76.8 tons/day]. In the No. 1 to No. 3 reactor buildings, highly contaminated water leaking from the vessels has amassed, preventing work to remove nuclear fuel.

NHK, May 27, 2014: The water is leaking from a point on a pipe leading to the containment vessel. An image taken by a robot probe shows a black area on the brown pipe. The leak point is above a donut-shaped unit called a suppression chamber where a robotic investigation detected flows of contaminated water last November. The chamber is in the lower part of the containment vessel. […] A contaminated water leak has also been found in the containment vessel of the Number 3 reactor. Officials say they will now investigate the suppression chamber and other parts of the Number 2 reactor.

Watch footage of the Unit 1 suppression chamber survey published on May 28 here

Watch NHK’s broadcast here

Published: May 29th, 2014 at 9:03 am ET


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217 comments to Official: Breach at Fukushima reactor blamed on saltwater corrosion — Over 75 tons of highly radioactive liquid flowing out everyday (PHOTOS & VIDEO)

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    • OldFool

      So every one of the reactors is rapidly corroding and falling to pieces – salt water does that to metal. Any repair will be essentially impossible. The great Ice Wall of TEPCO will flop sooner or later. So the entire inventory of radioactive material will be coming out over the next 130 years into the Pacific. TEPCO is truly 100% up the creek without a canoe now.

      • OldFool

        Since TEPCO won't pay for a Very Tall outer harbor wall to block off the next tsunami wave from the next big earthquake, how would the Great Ice Wall of TEPCO with it's fragile infrastructure survive the next earthquake? And this will be the Great Ice Wall that will have to last for the next 10,000 years to stop the radiation flow into the Pacific? As Peter Pan told Wendy, if you believe you can fly, you can fly.

        • Kashiko Kashiko

          Guess they never heard of stainless steel or it was too expensive. Even if it was fresh water it would still corrode.

          • Kashiko Kashiko

            Ahh.. just read the science paper below on corrosion but the pipes don't look like stainless, too much rust. I think they are cast iron, good for heat and strong but brittle, and of course …cheap

            • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

              Whee..all the faster then..

            • Shaker1

              Kashiko, it's unlikely that the pipes were cast iron for a number of reasons, but the simple fact is that pipe in a number of grades and compositions are quite common. It's likely some form of steel (iron, carbon, manganese, and silicon with other trace elements). Steel is quite effective in this situation as used, and I don't see the point of the expense of stainless. And then, stainless has its own problems that we might not encounter in our normal daily lives that are apparent in other uses. I didn't read the article, but corrosion is a rather general term that can be quite specific to particular situations beyond the general statement that steel rusts in seawater. To me, a metal worker who has worked specifically with materials in corrosive environments in a wide variety of metal materials and forms, the problem is more specifically obvious in that what happened was a beyond design-basis event. By that very definition (beyond design-basis) what is observed wasn't considered. It's a well-known fact that in such event nothing should be considered sufficient, from data-collection devices to materials themselves. And one thing that we should remember, despite how 'advanced' we might think that we are, we still live in the iron age, and it still is the truly 'magic metal'. We couldn't work these other metals without iron-based tools.

              By the way, stainless in common forms is still 70% iron.

              • Shaker1

                A much better view and some physical perspective of this situation can be had here:


                "What they have found so far is a small leak on a vacuum breaker for the downcomer to the torus. The media has taken TEPCO’s claim that this is “THE” leak at unit 1 but that is obviously not the case. An expansion joint in the vacuum breaker is considered the leak point. The diagram below shows a simplified example of the vacuum breaker line."

        • melting mermaid melting mermaid

          It actually didn't work in Peter Pan without the fairy dust. Has anyone made a plan to go to neverland to retreive some? Please send money to me and I will go and get some, I will find the lost boys and bring back an angry fairy horde to overthrow the evil,giant, mutant military nuclear industrial imperialism that has desroyed our fair planet. Hurry, send me all your money before it's too late.

        • PurpleRain PurpleRain

          This just irks the hell out of me! I don't believe in any damn ice wall, never did, doesn't seem at all realistic or feasible. So — WHAT CAN THEY DO? AND SOMEONE NEEDS TO KICK THEM IN THE ASS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • mutante mutante

          Old Fooi, you hit the nail right into the coffin!

      • Time Is Short Time Is Short

        "So the entire inventory of radioactive material will be coming out over the next 130 years into the Pacific."

        Don't forget to add, what doesn't go into the Pacific will burn into the atmosphere for a billion years in all the nuclear fires on-site they can't put out.

        Like your input here, OldFool. Thanks.

      • Here is the conservative estimate of inventory, and neglecting the uranium itself, much of which was ejected or burned off from 3 and 4

        Bq Bq/M3 Half Life Years Name
        7.15E+18 Sr 90 10.83 30 Strontium
        7.15E+18 Y 90 10.83 0.007315068 Decay Product of Sr90
        2.38E+18 Zr 95 3.61 0.175342466 Zirconium
        5.34E+18 Nb 95 8.09 0.095808219 Decay product of Zr95
        1.87E+19 Ru 106 28.36 1.02 Ruthenium
        1.87E+19 Rh106 28.36 9.48123E-07 Decay of Ru106

        Bq Bq/M3 Half Life Years Name
        9.23E+18 Cs134 13.99 2 Cesium
        9.60E+18 Cs137 14.55 30 Cesium
        9.08E+18 Ba 137m 13.76 4.94673E-06 ? Product of Cs137
        3.51E+19 Ce144 53.20 0.779726027 Cerium
        3.51E+19 Pr144 53.20 3.28767E-05 Decay of CE 144
        9.93E+18 Pm147 15.05 2.62 Promethium
        1.13E+19 Pu241 17.15 14.4 Plutonium
        1.79E+20 Total of Major Isotopes 270.98

        8.90E+13 Hiroshima 89 terabecquerels tera is 10 to the 12th, E12

        2.01E+06 How many times higher in radiation is Fukushima compared to Hiroshima

        • 2E+6 means add 6 zeros

          2,000,000 times more

          • Truly horrific circumstances. Thank you for gathering the science on those rads.

          • OldFool

            A very, very worthwhile effort. Where did you find the reactor inventory list? Thank you for an excellent first stab at the total inventory that will leach out into the Pacific. The total inventory might be considerably larger, since technetium 99 and plutonium 239 and about 100 other younger siblings and cousins of cute little Plu-kun can probably be added to the list – but some others have already decayed to stable states by now. Perhaps the total inventory that will leach out will be somewhere around 0.4 to 1.0 times 10 to exponential 21? What would this be called? A million petabecquerels? Seems to be a tiny bit larger than TEPCO's estimate of only 900 petabecquerels in total that have been released so far.

            • OldFool

              The best way to estimate the entire inventory is probably going to be from an actual list of radioactive inventory in a boiling water reactor – if anyone ever made such a list. Using atomic bomb radioactivity release comparisons is going to create all kinds of opportunities for totally different assumptions and calculations.

          • mutante mutante

            Yes, good way to represent an irrational number for an irrational apocalyptic act…

        • Tim42

          I see a bit of exaggeration here.

          I've done the calcs. The entire radioactive inventory of Fukushima is bit over 2273 megatons worth of fission products.
          This includes the contents of all six reactors and all 7 spent fuel pools. (~5% is in dry cask storage.. leaving 2159 Megatons of fission products still at risk).

          That calculation war arrived at by dividing lifetime electrical power generation (by unit order)(88.0+150.7+156.2+154.0+157.4+208.0)TWh by 0.4TWh per Megaton of fission byproduct produced.

          I previously did a releasable inventory range calculation for reactors 1, 2, and 3. By taking the last 3.2 to 6 years of power production for each unit and put it into the same formula. This gives fission yield range of 67 to 167.6 megatons of potential fission products in the ground/biosphere.

          Note: I didn't include calc for reactor 4, since the core is in SFP and appears to be contained after the initial fire. Hiroshima yield was placed at 15 kilotons. The 3.2 to 6 year range was chosen, based on estimate of the refueling cycle.

          Dividing out estimated production yield, by 15kt bomb yield works out to be 4,467 to 11,173 times that of Hiroshima bomb.

          I.E. no more than 1.12E+5.. you are off by a factor of ~20.

          It would be much worse(12.9x) if TEPCO abandon the site and all the radioactive fuel not in dry storage was release.

    • 75 tons of water from one reactor leak, times three reactors with the same leak equals close to 400 tons all by itself, per day, going into the ocean, direct from the reactors.

      Now add the 400 tons that TEPCO says is leaking into and out of the basements from the groundwater source..

      Already double what they estimate with just 3 leaks in 3 reactors…

      What happens if they find MORE leaks, like 3 or 4 holes per reactor?

      Multiply the above by 10? 20? or 100?

      • This article is all about leaks in reactor 1.

        CNN: “Problem from hell at Fukushima” — Tons of ‘highly radioactive’ liquid pouring out of Reactor 2 each day — Mysterious explosive bang “deep inside” — 3 areas at bottom may be ruptured — Caroline Kennedy at Plant: US will help with the leaks; 21 y/o son also on Tepco’s 3 hour tour (VIDEO) May 14, 2014

        multiple leaks in reactor #2

        how about #3? How many leaks in that one?

        How about #4?

  • GQR2

    They will be discovering and rediscovering leaks for the rest of time. Meanwhile the earth is poisoned thoroughly and completely with ongoing Nuclear Radiation severely mutating all life forms.

    Mind Control and perception management,mis-information are well funded and pursued as the monsters (they look just like everybody else so are very hard to pick out of a crowd) purveyors of death and lies go through regular charades as if there were something truly constructive they could do. There isn't – but the truth would be nice. The people of the earth need to realize what is happening and not trust the idiots on the idiot box or the ones that are coming out of the Universities. <<<–sad to say but true!
    EARTH – RIP.

  • dosdos dosdos

    Denial of earthquake damage is plain stupid. Saltwater corrosion takes time, even heated to boiling. Yes, there is damage from saltwater three years later, but in the beginning, saltwater could not have caused the massive leaks that were occurring at the time.

    TEPCO imperatives: don't blame the earthquake, don't blame MOX, start the nukes.

    Medical imperatives: don't blame radiation, blame stress.

    Government imperatives: blame the anti-nuke crowd for causing stress, start the nukes.

    Repeat a lie often enough….

    • GQR2

      The human race's demise.cause of death :
      Radiated Stupid

      Hubris Aggression and greed.
      And a strong dose at least in this country usa of GMO foods and toxic medicines. ALL for profit.

      • Time Is Short Time Is Short

        The TTIP treaty will spread GMO far and wide. Keep an eye on it:

        'TTIP – Trading away our rights'

        "The EU and US are claiming that the deal could boost the EU's economy by £120 billion and the US economy by £75 billion over 10 years. Negotiations started in July 2013 and still continue although it could be signed and sealed as early as the end of 2014. If signed it will have a massive impact on every man, woman and child in the UK, yet the details of it are being negotiated in secret and we aren't being properly consulted on what is being given away.

        It's the secrecy around TTIP that is really worrying. When coupled with a number of leaks that seem to suggest that the treaty will grant corporations and business interests benefits at the expense of consumers and citizens TTIP presents a real danger to society.

        Recent reports suggest that the deal will end up focusing on non-conventional 'trade barriers' like cutting the regulations around fracking, Genetic Modification and finance whilst tightening laws that harm innovation and culture like copyright.

        The agreement could also bring worrying legal processes like 'Investor State Dispute Settlement' (ISDS) making it harder for governments to protect the interests of their citizens and legislate to protect the environment and workers. What is more it seems that alongside the harm, the benefits will be much lower than suggested."

    • Shaker1

      "Denial of earthquake damage is plain stupid."

      Succinctly and rightly said, dosdos. The use of saltwater was an emergency action brought on by the earthquake. Can tepco possibly infer or allow one to think that if they hadn't taken that action that things would be better than they are? They're conveniently leaving out portions of the causal relationship. Only idiots would deny the earthquake.

      What they have now is a compromised system. Interesting to me was that it seemed that this leak area was not at a point that I'd suspect, one that may have been weakened over the years through erosion, etc. such as an elbow, though I'll admit that the pictures that I saw were lacking real clarity and I don't have familiarity of perspective to truly know what I was looking at beyond the obvious. But if that is not the case (an obvious point at which thinning could happen), 'repair' is simply a momentary situation that will have 'X' lifetime. There will be other 'leaks' such as this and we'll find cause to comment about them in the future.

    • Sickputer

      Tepco blames the dead (from throat cancer) Yoshida for ordering saltwater cooling when fires were raging in Units 1-4. Freshwater was not available the first week.

      So dishonorable to blame the dead hero with Tepco/Diet genocidal lies. No depths too low for them to sink to as Japan slowly dies.

    • Tim42

      Salt water corrosion.. I'm not buying it..

      TEPCO swtiched back to fresh water by the end of march 2011. I.E. only ~20 days of sea water cooling.

      If the units were still intact, it would have remained a highly concentrated brine solution.

      Once containment is breached, then any brine solution would have been quickly replaced by fresh water.

  • tsfw tsfw

    GQR2 "The truth would be nice."

    Would it be? I mean I do mostly agree with you in the sense that we have a right to the truth, but would it be in our best interest? I look around at all the people who lack what it takes to handle the truth. I sure wouldn't want the truth coming out if I lived in a metro area. I don't trust people to know how to behave, any more than I trust the nuclear industry.

    • bo bo

      I often have the same thought tsfw 🙁

      • GQR2

        It is something to ponder,the reality of people realizing that we.are.being.nuked. how most would react. I bet they would yawn! Or rush the plants and do what? Go and yell at their doctors? Run to the grocery store? We are being nuked. – There is a process that cannot be controlled and mankind has the right to know. The Galactic score card needs to be punched. They knew this stuff was the poison it is,they know the effects and they went and have been doing it anyway!! They sold it to us,with the military glorifying their genocidal actions under the the guise of "experiments" all smiles ice cream and coca-cola.(the bikini atoll)

        People are expected to freak out,but will they? Some will. The shit is hitting the fan and its pretty quiet so far. Like a wedge issue prevents critical mass in policy so will they divide and quell over Nuclear. That is until we have a HUGE Kaboom i'm thinking WIPP but who really knows. Could be anywhere,any plant any day.

    • Sadbuttrue Sadbuttrue

      I've thought about the same thing, which is what the government thinks along with the nuclearist murderers. Preventing panic is one thing, but we already had climate change on our plate to deal with as an ELE, all this is doing is speeding up the process and ensuring there is no hope of humans surviving on this planet after we're wiped out by climate change. So is it better to plug our ears and sing lalala until collapse happens?

      • Time Is Short Time Is Short

        That is the million dollar question we all need to ask ourselves, Sadbuttrue.

        There is no stopping this train to Hell.

        • Homolumina Homolumina

          I understand now why all the research into genetics is promoted, start saving to get your DNA repair kit and genetic registration chip that states whether or not you are allowed to reproduce…

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Climate change is not an ELE event and does not even compare at all to the damage now being done to the Earth from Nuclear Technology Applications. We can survive a hotter/warmer climate but few will survive the onslaught of hot radioactive isotopes being released in record numbers. 🙁

    • PurpleRain PurpleRain

      There will always be people who will remain deaf and dumb and close-minded to the truth, or the understanding to comprehend the truth, but being afraid in such a generalized and stereotyping or stereotypical way about any community of people is not the way forward, it won't help any of us. People must be made aware of the truth however slow but sure, but whatever means possible, to that great and average minds can get to work on this, and big and small communities can mobilize in some way or another to do everything possible – while there is still time. We cannot allow each other to lose hope. I know this is not easy. But – every person deserves respect and every person deserves to know the truth. We have to demand better answers and better results now.

  • ftlt

    Couldn't be from the EQ or tidal wave or explosions – never that.

  • earthsmith earthsmith

    Oh yeah…the ice wall…happy face….not

    Radiation>3years of some salty brine…sure let's pump some more chemicals down there

    Lost corium > sure let's ram a whole bunch of tubes down there

    Earthquakes > nah TEPCO is sure that was not and shouldn't be a problem

    A corroded pipe > wow let's see what's in the next building

    As the putrid brine bubbles to the surface and the aging concrete finds it's limits yeah they will find a few more leaks….who ya gonna call???

  • weegokiburi weegokiburi

    I seem to remember hearing official denials before.
    "The official denied the possibility that the leakage was caused because the earthquake damaged equipment. He said the company will continue to investigate if there are other areas of leakage nearby."
    Sound familiar?

    Keep up the good work.
    I'll sleep well tonight.

  • dodge

    There is no "fix". This is a replacement issue. Problem is that new construction does all this before and without radiation present – contamination from the nuclear power generation happens after construction. Built to function without salt – the emergency cooling with salt water simply destroys the pipes which were not designed to handle it. The biggest question is how do they shield themselves while constructing a "new system – not to mention how do they cost the "pay back" when this new system generates only expense and no income? It is obvious to many that without a world wide response – the continuation of this radiation dump into the ocean threatens the health of the entire world – and selfishly stated it's human life.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    TEPCO showing off one leaky-poo at a time.

    • Is this the best leak that they are showing off, or the smallest one first, with larger leaks to show off later?

      Is it on schedule? One leak ID'ed each year? That means it will take another 10 years to ID the other 10 leaks… and another 40 years to think about a solution, and another 100 years before they start any work on this issue, and another 5000 years before they actually do anything, paid for by taxpayers of course…

      Because TEPCO has to make a profit each year, no matter what happens to the Pacific ocean.. Profits first, even if the Pacific ocean and all of the Garden of Eden of life is killed off in it.

    • dunkilo

      ladies and gents and now will you give a warm welcome to The Three Coriums !! With their hit song – burning for you !!MUHAAAAAAAAA!!!!

  • Occupant Occupant

    The Japaneese gov is on the hook for costs until thier currency collapses, then the world bank will have to step in, then soon the entire world monetary sysem implodes.

    The global cost of welfare, nearly all of it is paid for by printing money into existance, at a cost of $19 billion each and every day that is all borrowed.

    It won't be long now.

  • How do they know for sure this was caused by 'corrosion'?

    This hole looks big enough and it is in the right place for corium to have melted through and ooozed out.

    AGRP votes for corium exiting here, and more corrosion happened AFTER that.

    If this hole is caused by corrosion, than the whole containment vessel will have been eaten through in numerous places, in all reactor vessels.

    And if THAT is true, then the whole place is just one big sinking rust bucket with massive holes all over the place, with no way to patch or fix anything… Basically it is just a huge hole that they are pouring water through, and it is all going straight into the ocean, direct from the multiple coriums; millions or billions of Bq/liter of water..

    It is odd that they did not mention the radiation level of this water; like it did not have any radiation at all… it is just nice pure well water coming out of the bowels of these reactors, right?

  • weeman

    No question in my humble mind, the cracks in piping in suppression chamber was caused by over pressurization of containment vessel, when they could not realease the pressure through vents?
    In a submarine or ship and you have a leak in piping, you put a band aid or metal strap around leak and that leak is under extreme water pressure, not the case here.
    Tepco buy a couple of cases of leak stop, sarc.

  • Gabe Gabe

    I believe that all the people of the world should be told the truth if for no reason other than to also encourage people to stop having children. It is, after all, the children who will suffer more than the current adults. Who, in their right mind, would choose to bring a child into this world if they fully understood what this Fuku situation really means?
    I believe that information could be dribbled out, by the govts. Of the world. If a week was spaced between pieces of information people should be able to cope without freaking, especially of the govts. Honestly tell people how best to deal with what is fact. But, we know that govt. honesty is an oxymoron.
    I have forwarded this newsletter on to relatives. Their response has been to ask that they not receive these because they just do not have time to read even their messages from friends. As well, they do not like this depressing info. But, if there is something happy to send them they would like that.
    Humanity deserves the consequences of its laziness and self absorption and refusal to deal with truth.

  • Titantic and Costa Concordia – Example of Normalcy Bias In Fukushima Mega Disaster; via @AGreenRoad

    • The Samson Principle; Holding The World Hostage With Nuclear, Chemical, Biological Weapons Of Mass Destruction; via @AGreenRoad

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Dr. G., with all due respect, as a Christian, I disagree with the statement Christians want to see an all out war of mass destruction. It's actually horrifying to us to contemplate, because it means basically all hell breaks loose on earth. The suffering of people on earth is not something we relish.

        Could it be you have confused Biblical prophecy (eschatology) with the actual desires of people who practice Christianity?

        I don't know enough about the Moslem religion except to say there are elements who are calling for Jihad. IMO those people are in a very small minority. I have lots of Moslem and Christian friends, and none of them are people who thirst for war or bloodshed.

        This feels to me like being "profiled" and having untrue stereotypes reinforced. If anyone who says they are Christian is a bloodthirsty Christian, then he or she is not a Christian at all. We loathe the suffering and grief of this present world.

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          Can we please avoid the use of stereotypes about people groups here?

          There's plenty of intolerance to go around w/o attacking people's personal choices in their belief systems.

          That should IMO get handled off-list.

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            This is a heart issue, Dr. G. The article on the "Samson Principle" accuses others, whom the author doesn't know, and discusses them in condemning terms.

            Was it your intention to foster intolerance and cause people to believe something which likely isn't true of most people "profiled" in the article?

            • Time Is Short Time Is Short

              The article wasn't against 'all' Christians and Muslims. There are Christians and Muslims that want total war. There are Christians and Jews (the article was referring to Israel as the country with rogue nukes that no one will discuss – and Israel is not a signitory to the Nuclear Anti-Proliferation Treaty, so they have no moral claim to discuss nukes with anyone)who feel by bringing on Armageddon, the Messiah will show up/return.

              You weren't 'lumped in' with terrorists, HoTaters. You must have put yourself in there.

              The 'Samson Option' in Israel is also known as the 'Masada Option'. They will blow themselves up with their nukes before they allow anyone else to destroy them. They will only allow themselves to destroy themselves. And for the record, there are many Jews who would like to see Israel destroyed.

              Read 'The Transfer Agreement', nominated for a Pulitzer Prize. It's spelled out pretty clearly. Many Jews worked with Hitler to get rid of the 'undesirable Jews'. Over 6 million of them, and they're not done. Herd them all into a small patch of land in the middle of nowhere, then BOOM!

              There are Jews in the US State Department working with the Nazis in Ukraine, who want to kill Jews. Madness. Even spent $5 billion US tax dollars for the privilege.

              And there's no shortage of Christians that want to kill Christians, and Muslims that want to kill Muslims. The only upside of Fukushima is that it's going to kill all the whackos along with the…

              • Time Is Short Time Is Short


                The only upside of Fukushima is that it's going to kill all the whackos along with the rest of us.

                Their DNA will run out, just like ours. There will be peace, we just won't be part of it.

              • HoTaters HoTaters

                It just got too close to a broad brush, sweeping statement about people of faith.

                Where I'm coming from is I'm seeing a lot of anti-Christian and anti-Muslim statements being made. Because of a few fanatical and IMO crazy individuals who probably aren't even followers of a faith based group, everyone in that group gets characterized along with the crazies by the false characterizations.

                I keep insisting people who do such nut job things aren't real Christians, but no one seems to be listening.

                We are being demonized all over the world, persecuted, tortued, killed. It's not just the people in Tibet who are being oppressed. It's Christians everywhere who are literally being slaughtered. In Lebanon, in Egypt, in Eritrea, in Sudan, in China, in India. See, "Voice of the Martyrs" if you need to be convinced.

                So yes, I resent the characterizations and broad-brush generalizations.

                Christian-bashing has become quite popular. I do take this personally. If you understand how profiling works, you'll understand why I found this to be an unsound moral and ethical comparison of actions, like comparing apples to cattle.

              • zogerke zogerke

                bla bla bla anti semitism bal bla blas there is a nobel proze winner who says it is true bal bla bla the jews all want to kill each other and copntrol the world bla bla bla the jews no the christains want the second coming oh right the jews never believed in the first bla bla bla secret society and illimanito and babylons and rothchilds bla bla bla mosada and snippets of hostory taken out of context bla bla bla so defend yourself bla bla bla zog is a term used derogatorily for jews bla bla bla anti semitism bla bla bla but we love individuals we just hate the group we just hate the rtich we just hate toe owner we just hjate them but we are loving and dont hate anyone bla bla bla anti semitism in so many familiar worn out forms.

                really folks, time for this zogerke to check out for a while. for a while, I . AM. DONE.

          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            beware the easily offended….someone once said. Are you a U.S. citizen? You clearly missed the profiling which was not religious ("There are a few people…") But rather a country. The U.S. holds others hostage by nuclear. Yet you didnt seem to care about that sweeping statement,…only about your religion. I could care less who is offended…until they call me heretic and cut off my head

            • HoTaters HoTaters

              Code, I wasn't speaking to the nuclear problem.

              I love the truth, and it bothers me when I see people getting labeled and "profiled." I understand why people think it is repugnant in terms of racial slurs.

              You surely have read a lot of my posts, so I didn't think it was necessary to reiterate my contempt for the nuclear industry and its effects on everyone and everything.

              You are of course entitled to your point of view. I'm glad you're better able than I to deflect comments which might reflect upon your own personal belief system. You apparently have thicker skin than I. Good for you.

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        BTW, the man's name is spelled Samson.

        How did Christianity get to be equated with terrorism? I do not appreciate being labeled a terrorist, and I am nothing of the kind.

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          You know I have enormous respect for your work. That being said, making an analogy between a Biblical story you do not understand, and the desire for nuclear armageddon is quite a stretch. Even allegorically.

          I hope we can reach agreement, or agree to disagree. Just please be careful with the labels you slap on groups of people with whom you don't seem well acquainted.

          There are a lot of Moslems in my neighborhood, and some of my doctors are Moslem. They are decent and kind people toward me. It's really unfair to lump them in a group with a bunch of "terrorists."

          • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

   not new.
            It was born during the Crusades to try and protect their faith.
            If there was to be an invasion of the Christian lands and religion…one can bet their sweet bippy that ..some sort of resistance would occur.

            Fanaticism can be found on all religious fronts.

            • HoTaters HoTaters

              The Crusades were a very dark period in history. The actions so-called "Christians" took at that time were barbaric. I can understand why the concept of Christianity is loathesome to some people. I would also argue the perpetrators had a twisted view of the tenets of their faith.

              You're right, there is fanaticism everywhere.

              • HoTaters HoTaters

                My point is: the conflict (Crusades) was ugly on both sides.

                • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                  I've had wonderful Middle Eastern friends..
                  Jewish friends ..Christian friends.

                  I don't care about peoples religion.
                  I do care whether they can think outside of dogma.

                  • HoTaters HoTaters

                    I understand, Heart. Are our hearts big enough to find common ground, and to practice love toward one another?

                    That, for me, is the "bottom line."

                    And I do fail at this, often. I need to remind myself to be loving and kind.

                    It's often not the highest thing on a human's agenda.

            • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

              Jihad is in the Koran, and the first generation after Mohammad launched a jihad which conquered whole peoples by violence, not by proselytizing.

              “This site is dedicated to a factual and realistic analysis of the Islam and its founder Mohammed S.A.W. (PBUH*) who launched the Islamic Jihad in the year 620 from Makkah (Mecca) in Arabia.
              “Here you will read about the history of the Islamic Jihad from its beginnings at Mecca in 620 C.E. up to 9/11, and the lessons it has for us in today’s challenging times. If we are to understand Islam, we need to understand the temperament of its founder Mohammed PBUH*, the way victorious Muslims have treated the subject people, and above all the reasons for the victory of Islam. …”

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                “…In reply, however, while it is true that a Muslim may wage jihad on the excess in his soul or on unbelief by non-violent means like argumentation, jihad must also include a military, violent war.
                “Also, the clauses that say that jihad means the struggle to improve "the quality of life" or the fight against "tyranny and oppression" are ambiguous. Islam expresses the will of Allah, and jihad battles anything that stands in its way.
                “By any clear reading of the Quran, the hadith (reports of Muhammad’s words and actions outside of the Quran), the histories, the biographies and the law books on early Islam, jihad cannot exclude military warfare in the cause of Allah in order to expand Islam….”

            • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

              Let's not forget about the military campaigns of the Moslems in Spain in the 8th century, 300 years before the Crusades.

              “The Umayyad conquest of Hispania is the initial Islamic Umayyad Caliphate's conquest, between 711 and 788, of the Christian Visigothic Kingdom of Hispania, centered in the Iberian Peninsula, which was known to them under the Arabic name al-Andalus.
              “The conquest began with an invasion by an army that (according to traditional accounts) consisted largely of Berber Northwest Africans and Arabs, and was commanded by Tariq ibn Ziyad. They disembarked in early 711 at Gibraltar and campaigned their way northward. After the decisive Battle of Guadalete against the usurper Roderic and the support provided to the Saracens by the legitimate heirs to the throne, the initial raids became, to the surprise of the raiders themselves, territorial gains successfully conquered and retained. The Visigothic kingdom splintered into client-dominions of the Umayyads. Over the following decade, most of the Iberian Peninsula was further occupied and brought under Umayyad sovereignty. In 714 Musa ibn Nusayr headed north-west up the Ebro river to overrun western Basque regions and the Cantabrian mountains all the way to Gallaecia, with no relevant or attested opposition. However, these northern areas drew little interest to the conquerors and were hard to defend when taken. The high western and central sub-Pyrenean valleys remained unconquered.
              “By 717 the Islamic invasion…

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                “By 717 the Islamic invasion of Gaul (later France) had commenced. …”

                • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                  The Ornament of the World: How Muslims, Jews and Christians Created a Culture of Tolerance in Medieval Spain [Paperback]


                  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                    Religious tolerance before it was hip

                    Medieval Muslims, Jews, and Christians built a rich culture

                    July 25 2002


                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      yeah, the Arabs conquered the Visigoths and brought their tremendous architecture and technology, only to have it taken over or ruined by the Christian reconquista. They called the Moorish mosques their own and burned the Arab books. Gracias Allah the Moors were in Iberia

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                      “…In 507 CE Alaric II was defeated in battle by Clovis, dying in the engagement, and the Visigothic kingdom became Frankish. The capital was set up at Toledo and a gradual merging of the cultures began between the Romans and the Visigoths. In 711 CE the Muslim forces conquered Spain and, in so doing, accelerated the assimilation of the two cultures into one united front against the conquerors. In time, the native Romans of Hispania and the Visigoths became the united culture of Spain.
                      “In 722 CE, at the Battle of Covadonga, Pelagius of Asturias defeated the Muslim forces and thus began the Christian re-conquest of Spain. In 732 CE, at the Battle of Poitiers (also known as the Battle of Tours) the Frankish King Charles Martel (the Hammer) defeated the Muslim forces under Rahman to permanently halt Muslim incursions into Europe. After driving the Muslims out of Galicia in 739 CE, the Roman Catholic Church was established by the new government as the national faith and official religion of the country. The German Visigoths and the Italian Romans had become the unified people of Spain….”

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                      How Greek Science Passed to the Arabs Paperback
                      by De Lacy O'Leary (Author)

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                      “…Arches have been built since prehistoric times. Rude prototypes were made by leaning two slabs of rock together or by constructing a stepped, or corbeled, arch in which projecting elements from a wall rise in steps from the supports to meet in the center. The Egyptians, Babylonians, and Greeks used the arch, generally for secular structures, such as storerooms and sewers. The Assyrians built palaces with arched ceilings, and the Etruscans used arches in bridges, passageways, and gates. The Romans, however, were the first to develop the arch on a massive scale. They used the semicircular arch freely in secular structures such as amphitheaters, palaces, and aqueducts, but their temples usually had the post-and-lintel construction of Greek temples. The few vaulted exceptions, however, include the Pantheon in Rome.
                      “During the Middle Ages, Byzantine architecture in the East and Romanesque architecture in the West retained the characteristic round Roman arch. Islamic architects developed a rich variety of pointed, scalloped, horseshoe, and ogee (S-curve) arches for mosques and palaces. In Moorish Spain, horseshoe arches were set on delicate columns, giving a characteristic airy effect. Gothic architecture in Western Europe was characterized by the pointed arch, which minimized outward thrust and thus made possible higher, thinner, window-filled walls, creating the lofty, spacious interiors of Gothic cathedrals. In the 20th century, arches of molded reinforced concrete based on…

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

                      In the 20th century, arches of molded reinforced concrete based on the curve of a parabola have been used in all sorts of public structures….”

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Samson was fighting back against 40 years of very cruel Philistine oppression of Israel. If you are familiar with their practice of human sacrifice, worship of Ba'al and Molech, you might understand why their Israeli captives didn't like them.

        "Classical sources relate how the Carthaginians burned their children as offerings to Baal-hamon. From the attributes of his Roman form, African Saturn, it is possible to conclude that Hammon was a fertility god.[11] (See Moloch for a discussion of these traditions and conflicting thoughts on the matter.)" This practice came out of the Philistine and Canaanite worship of Molech."

        The Philistines were the implacable enemy of Israel. They possessed an fine and advanced culture, but were very warlike and aggressive against their neighbors in regions they took and occupied.

        Please see bullet point #2 here:

        The Phillistines weren't "nice" people in terms of their human sacrifice of their own children, nor the method by which they kept control of the populations they conquered.

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          If one puts the story of Samson into an historical context, and one understands Delilah was sent to deceive him so the Philistines could destroy him as the ruler of Israel, his actions become understandable. One must consider the circumstances under which he was living, and how the Philistines tortured him before he pulled down the temple where so many perished.

          The Philistines had great military superiority, as they had advanced to iron age weapons by the time they conquered Israel. Methods of killing and torture in the Middle East (esp. Assyria, Persia, and Babylonia) were quite barbaric in those days.

          Please let's try to put this into an historical context.

          I'm OT here, but I wanted to let you know what my "issue" is here instead of reporting the comment. Yes, it wasn't a direct comment, but the material in the link is factually incorrect.

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          Whats the point, Ho Taters, of engaging in historical religious debate? Such has been ongoing for all of history and is yet to resolve. Odd that radionuclides will be the final blow to differing religious dogma. But specifically, if one is going to dig up scant historical text, one must be thorough.

          There is evidence that ancient Israelites believed that human sacrifices could be offered to Yahweh in exchange for victory in battle against their enemies. The Israelite warrior Jephthah sacrificed his virgin daughter to Yahweh in this belief. The same ideology can be seen in some early accounts of the Canaanite conquest, in which Yahweh gives Israelites victory against Canaanite armies, and the Israelites in turn slaughter all of the women and children in payment to Yahweh for his aid.

          Ezekiel claimed that Yahweh ordered them to kill their firstborn sons as a way of getting back at them for their lack of faith.

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

            What is your Biblical citation? Sounds extremely untruthful to me.

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

            Whatever sacrifice there was was not to Yahweh, but to a false God.

            And they were punished by Yahweh for turning away from him.

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar VanneV

            “…The great question is, What did Jephthah actually do to his daughter on her return? The fulfillment of his vow could only mean one thing, namely, the offering up of his precious child as a burnt offering (Judges 11:31). But Bible scholars disagree over what is precisely meant by this ‘burnt offering.’ According to one interpretation the vow of Jephthah consisted of two parts—
            “1. What person soever met him should be the Lord’s, or dedicated to His service forever.
            “2. What beast soever met him should be offered as a burnt offering, like the Tabernacle lambs, upon an altar.
            “Based upon this view, it is affirmed that Jephthah kept his daughter in sacred celibacy for the rest of her life; that what she and her female companions bewailed was not the prospect of coming sacrifice but her virginity. ‘She knew no man.’ So the phrase ‘he did with her according to his vow’ is made to signify the exclusion of his daughter as a kind of Old Testament nun, surrendered to live a secluded life in the service of the Tabernacle &–;a vestal virgin. Thus the shuddering thought of a terrible human sacrifice is softened down in this way—
            “It was not a human sacrifice in the gross sense of the word, not a slaughter of an unwilling victim, but the offering of a devoted heart, to free, as she supposed, her father and her country from a terrible obligation…. The heroism of the father and daughter are to be admired and loved in the midst of the fierce superstition round which it plays like a…

  • TooExpensiveToMatter

    "The metal bellow joint is likely to have been corroded ["destruction of materials from chemical reaction"] by seawater [the Tepco official said.] "

    So they want to build an ice wall to hold back the fresh water from the inland side, allowing more salt water from the sea side?

    Makes perfect sense.

    I'm glad they are on top of things.

  • Nick

    "Nuclear power is an excellent energy source in terms of securing a stable supply and preventing global warming, and it is important to establish the nuclear fuel cycle and promote nuclear power generation as a core source of power. "

    "Truth be told, the Japanese government – under the pro-nuclear leadership of Prime Minister Shinzo Abe – might be heaving a huge sigh of relief at the sight of exiting Nuclear Regulation Authority (NRA) commissioner Kunihiko Shimazaki, one of the two commissioners who would be leaving Japan’s nuclear watchdog organization in September when their terms expire. The new commissioners lined up to replace them are seen as ones who would most likely acquiesce to the restarts of Japan’s nuclear reactors more easily than Shimazaki, who was a constant irritant to the power utilities who are asking for green lights to restart their reactors."

    Don't think for a millisecond that Japan is having second thoughts about nuclear energy.


    • Out with the bad, in with the baddest!

      • Time Is Short Time Is Short

        The Japanese ruling elites have a fondness for the 'romantic notion' of suicide. Now they are going to take the entire country – and world – with them.

        OTOH, it was bound to happen somewhere. Sooner or later the old reactors would start popping off, just due to age. They were never designed to last forever. Japan just happened to be the first domino. There will be many, many more NPP total failures.

        Although the Japanese are doing the worst possible job doing anything that might be considered 'right'.

        • Seraphine Seraphine

          OT but seems relevant to Time Is Short's comment above:
          Are you familiar with Sukyo Mahikari? They, like Aum Shinrikyo before them, have a reputation as a doomsday cult w/VERY powerful members. I'm guessing most here are familiar w/Abe's connection to the latter. I imagine he has ties to S.M. as well.

          • Time Is Short Time Is Short

            "Once tipped to be a Japanese Prime Minister, Shintaro Ishihara, was the long-standing Mayor of the greater Tokyo region. He reigned over a densely populated region of over 20 million people. He loves a bit of controversy. He calls all foreigners in Japan ‘niggers’. He recently declared that the recent devastating March 2011 tsunami in Japan was a warning from god because of the Japanese peoples’ collective greed. God was truly unhappy that day. He says women who live past their childbearing days are sinful. He also says Japan should dispense with its pacifist post-war constitution and re-arm itself. He says a lot of things. He’s famous for his inflammatory and ultra-nationalist books, essays, speeches, activism and sentiments. He’s often in the news and he’s got history."

            • Time Is Short Time Is Short

              "He now leads a group of Japanese hard-line ultra-nationalists, the New Restoration Party, who are wanting to re-assert Japan’s perceived global superiority, i.e. a global theocracy under the divine leadership of the Japanese God Emperor; something that the Japanese militarists tried to achieve during W.W. I I. Their catch cry was and still is ‘all the world under the one roof’ which is religion/politico speak for a global Japanese theocracy."


          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            wow, Seraphine, if true, it makes a crazy story for end of times. You can Make bible prophesy come true! Do you believe this, have you researched it?

            The Aum doomsday cult was set up by a right wing extremist group including former Tokyo Governor Shintaro Ishihara and Abe’s father Shintaro Abe who worked closely with the Bush/Scherff Nazi faction in the West developing and spreading weapons of mass destruction.


            the Rense take on it;

            • HoTaters HoTaters

              Very intesting, Code. Thanks for posting that. I wasn't aware Abe had been linked to the subway attacks. (Or was it when the Sarin gas was used on the bullet trains?)

            • bo bo

              Wow that's really crazy code… I did not know about this Abe / sarin connection either. I am going to ask my brother if he knows anything about it.

              I'm sure you know but tere is also a bigger buddhist cult called Soka Gakkai

              I'm going to link to an article that has a good discussion in the comments section -


              Ikeda ( the leader of SG ) is quoted in the article saying “I am the King of Japan.” Sounds pretty grandiose, but there is a grain of truth in that. His influence on his society is underrated outside of Japan, and perhaps within, as well. This is why, when someone does publish a well-researched, thorough “expose”, no matter how well balanced, it’ll be like a tsunami hitting the world of the Soka Gakkai, and I think, Japan itself.

              End quote

              Many media outlets have been infiltrated, including the Japan Times

  • Cdog Cdog

    On one hand Im surprised to see parts of the Torus looking so good and also looking dry. On the other I wonder if the dry well did manage to contain the coriums after all of these years. Someone smarter than me pointed out that water will be forced out of the concrete by the heat which will make it brittle. But it's at least 6 feet thick, maybe up to 12? I wonder?
    I would also guess this is the driest of the basements.
    Most of 3's core went airborne.

  • Cdog Cdog

    90% of people hate nuclear
    9% don't know whats going on
    1% are get rich/er from it.

    The dam 1%

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    "Robot pinpoints leaks on Fukushima unit 1
    November 13, 2013

    Fukushima-Daiichi-Unit-1via NHK World / November 14, 2013 / A robot at the damaged Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant has for the first time identified exactly where highly radioactive water is leaking from a reactor.

    Plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Company, or TEPCO, on Wednesday succeeded in sending a remote-controlled robot close to the lower part of the No.1 reactor’s containment vessel.

    The lower section is filled with contaminated water injected to cool molten nuclear fuel. Extremely high radiation levels have hampered efforts to probe that section.

    A camera on the robot captured images of water in the containment vessel into the building housing the reactor.

    TEPCO engineers say they’re not sure how much water is leaking. But they say one of the leaks looks as if tap water is gushing out.

    Radiation levels in the area were extremely high at 0.9 to 1.8 sieverts an hour.

    Engineers suspect that damage to containment vessels at the No. 2 and 3 reactors is also causing similar leaks of highly radioactive water."


  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    There is no telling when and where the photos are taken.

    PS..Corrosion is a on-going event.

  • jackassrig

    It's not saltwater any more is BRINE. Brine will eat almost through anything.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    "blamed on saltwater"
    True but only partially..
    They don't mention radiation induced corrosion.

    Radiation Induced Corrosion of Steel.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose ..can't talk about radiation induced corrosion of the nuclear and material..

    Radiation Induced Corrosion of Nuclear Fuel and Materials

  • Nick

    There's a hole in your reactors dear TEPCO, dear TEPCO.

    With what shall we fix it dear planet dear planet?

    With some duct tape and traffic cones, dear TEPCO, dear TEPCO.

    But the tape is too long dear planet, the tape is too long.

    Then cut it dear TEPCO, dear TEPCO, then cut it.

    With what shall we cut it dear planet, dear planet?

    With a knife dear TEPCO, dear TEPCO, a knife.

    But the knife is too dull dear planet, dear planet.

    So is your head dear TEPCO, your head is too dull?

    Then how shall we fix it dear planet, dear planet?

    You tell us, dear TEPCO, you broke it.

  • dunkilo

    It rots people ,making them dependent on health care,like junkies …but by "big govt dealing their drugs " Take a look at the evil one's handy work.Radiation ,in my view is from satan .just sayin' Victory is His ,always has been:)

    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

      I don't believe in Satan ..just the stupidity of the crappy minds of Humans.

      • dunkilo

        Same same ? just saying 🙂

        • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

          Not really ..Satan is a mythical blame it on.
          A way out excuse.

          • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

            If those who so believe..were 'relieved' of such a thought ..where would responsibility lie?

            • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

              Satan =religious fear porn

              • Down The River Down The River

                Heart, you have a way with words.

                Of course I agree with you.

              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                It appears that the original Hebrew term, satan, is a noun from a verb meaning primarily to, “obstruct, oppose,” It wasnt used as the name of a person or being. Some say the word traces back to the sanskrit mantra SA TA NA MA…satnam, and the Indian town Satana. "Sa" means infinity; Ta means life; Na means death; and Ma means rebirth.

                The origin of lucifer seems to come from Isaiah 14:12. Lucifer is the King James Version rendering of the Hebrew word הֵילֵל in Isaiah 14:12. This word, transliterated hêlêl. The actual term used in the Greek Septuagint version of Isaiah 14:12 is Eos phoros, meaning morning star, etc.

                As Elaine Pagels explains , the concept of Satan has evolved over the years and the early Bible writers didn't believe in or teach such a doctrine.

                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  One can trace the concept of the fallen angel to Enochic Judaism during the second temple period. …Traditionalist Rabbis often rejected any belief in fallen angels, having a view that evil is abstract. However, in the 11th century, the Pirqe de-Rabbi Eliezer, drawing on ancient legends of the fallen angel or angels, brought back to the mainstream of rabbinic thought the personification of evil and the corresponding myth.

                • Seraphine Seraphine

                  I read somewhere (forgive my stupid memory 🙁 ) that 'satan' meant 'questioner'…like the book of Job, which was an example of "Satan" questioning Job's faith in God.

                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    Earlier people were far more intellectual and discerning than we give them credit. They fully realized they were dealing in abstract terms and fundamental ideas, rather than todays mishmash of emotive blind belief systems. Listen to Plotinus; [the demiurge is the nous, as the first emanation of the One, the ordering principle or mind, and also reason.] a far cry from the devil made me do it….

                    • Shaker1

                      So true, Code…


                      I have mine, surely,
                      but I don't believe in giving 'them'
                      a life outside of themselves.
                      'They' are mine;
                      'they’ are 'me',
                      and it doesn't seem advantageous to personify
                      or give convention to that aspect of 'me'.

                      Too irritating to expose,
                      might we dress our discomfort in formal clothes
                      to present them as proper ladies and gentlemen,
                      allow these demons subterfuge in social agreement?
                      They will spoil the party.
                      I might simply ask:
                      what’s the point?

                      With the morning mirror in artificial light,
                      to an ancient reflection of still water,
                      I confront my demons.
                      ‘They’ are mine;
                      ‘they’ are ‘me’.
                      Muddy water simply warns,
                      “Do not drink of me.”

                    • HoTaters HoTaters

                      Shaker1, as usual, you have given brilliant poetry which beautifully summarizes the underlying issue with which we all deal.

                      Let every man begin with himself.

              • Seraphine Seraphine

                Absolutely agree. Also a way to wash the hands of any "good" deity/prophet/whatever of responsibility for anything bad.

  • Nick

    So TEPCO finally admits that water is flooding into the Pacific.

    I suggest no nuclear reactor restarts in Japan unless ALL leaks are fixed.


    Um…..the Japanese need to be able to keep selling their wonderful nuclear technology worldwide!

    How else are they gonna have the bucks to purchase the necessary amounts of bubble-gum to plug the reactor vessel leaks?

  • cosmic charlie cosmic charlie

    I had had a good measure of admiration for Japan and it's people. They designed and produced some of the finest electronics and automobiles available. Now, just like most other places it's people are held hostage by psychopath goons and sadists.

  • Ontological Ontological

    "A contaminated water leak has also been found in the containment vessel of the Number 3 reactor."

    Is there anything left of R3? Since they found bits of Cobalt60 everywhere, I would say R3's leak is a bit more than they are telling.

  • Nick

    "On 27 May 2014, Japan provided the IAEA with an update to current information on radioactivity in seawater at TEPCO's Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station (NPS).

    The update shows that TEPCO has reported to the Nuclear Regulation Authority (NRA) that it discharged 561 tonnes of groundwater to the ocean by means of the groundwater bypass system on 21 May 2014. TEPCO also reported to the NRA that it discharged 641 tonnes of groundwater to the ocean on 27 May 2014."

    In other news, TEPCO admitted that they had illegally discharged close to 90,000 tons of highly radioactive water from Unit #1 since
    3/11/11. It is unknown how much the other crippled Units leaked as well. Best estimates are 3 x 90k or 270K tons of leaking water.

    This is a low estimate, mind you.

    The groundwater bypass discharges pale in comparison!

  • YukonRadiation YukonRadiation

    So sad that all we do is talk and talk about this? i have seen postings about radiation cures ? not sure if it would work or not but at least we could try but all we do is trash those people here? Tepco DOES NOTHING AT THE SITE but leak out pictures of things they should have done a couple YEARS AGO? So why don't they /we do something? we have the equipment to chase the Coriums under ground , we could be dumping sand and lead on top of the site, we could build a break water wall to at least stop the next giant wave? what will it take , a small country to go nuts and attack Japan because they are killing every body? my thoughts are that the only time will address this is when the Pacific ocean completely dies! and sadly i now am hoping it happens soon! SHAME ON US! SHAME ON THE HUMAN RACE!

  • mutante mutante

    I know that this is news, and it's important that every shred of information about "This" comes to light,
    but at some point you come to the conclusion that EVERYTHING THAT COULD BE WRONG is a wrong at "THIS".
    No solutions have been successfully implemented. No outside entity has aided these homocidal idiots.
    And the the PTB – govs
    , capitalists , MSM are just omitting, censoring & lying about any information about "This".
    I have made @ least 200 people aware of "THIS", and they simply are indifferent about fuku.
    My rage is worthless. A Gandhi-like case of civil-disobedience would be futile in attempting to change
    this situation even if 50,000,000 people had the guts to become active protestors. The powerful Psychopaths would just cynically laugh at protests.
    Realistically, nothing can be done about this.

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      mutante, I will argue (respectfully) we have power in numbers. We must continue to believe each one of us has influence. Certainly, collectively, we have influence. As stock put it, we'll sooner or later reach a "tipping point."

      Let's just hope that point is reached SOON for everyone's sake.

      We just need to keep thinking outside the box. I guess I'm an incurable optimist. But I've lived through some bad, bad things, so just being here, today, in this moment, is a gift to me.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Fukushima is 79 years of radioisotope contamination.

    Fukushima is Trinity, Hiroshima, Nagasaki.

    Fukushima is 2000+ atmospheric nuclear tests.

    Fukushima is Rocketdyne, Sellafield, TMI, Chernobyl.

    Fukushima is all the other known and unknown releases.

    Billions of petabequrels of manmade, nuclear transmutated, long lived radioactive, heavy metal, chemical toxins released into Nature's radiation shielded living environment.

    70 years of nuclear. We did that.

    Less time than the total decay of the first cesium 137 atom synthesized.

    It's all one giant release of radionuclides. 70 years.

    Those caesuim 137 atoms released from trinity, are still decaying.

    They still have over 200 years to go…

    The sum of the parts.

    How much is too much?

  • mt1000

    S-O-S … to world!
    And "news" pages just list Hollywood sh*t ….

    • West Aussie West Aussie

      Excellent video, mt1000.
      That government official who accompanied those reporters into the plant without protection and smiled when shown the high radiation readings, I think, illustrates to us all very clearly what sort of mind-set we are up against. It's the personification of their governments assertion that if you smile then radiation can't hurt you.
      I can't help but wonder what kind of mental gymnastics this official has used to justify his actions.
      Government/Familial/Company loyalties?
      Believes what the government is saying publicly about radiation and has no desire to seek out information that contradicts govt assertions?
      Dislikes people who question authority so finds it easy to disregard what these people are saying about the dangers?

      All of the above and more I haven't thought of would, I believe, factor in his thinking. Just as I suspect this type of thinking is not restricted to government employee's or to anyone who has chosen between what is personally profitable and what is right.
      So far only 6 or 700 views. Should be more. Much more.

  • GQR2

    Really passionate song by Bruce Cockburn,
    If i had a rocket launcher.

  • razzz razzz

    Can't have an earthquake destroying the plumbing. Has to be a hydrogen explosion or salt corrosion. How'bout a burn thru or heat from melted fuel?

    Patch that leak or fill the doughnut full of concrete then fill the containment full of water, problem solved. Right?

    With newer containment or controlled meltdowns, the idea is to direct the melt to flow into a pancake or thin and spread out sheet to help dissipate the heat. By that point all is lost but better knowing where your melt is as compared to Daiichi.

  • norbu norbu

    The reactor flowing out bad water everyday is matching Tepco spewing bullshit out of there mouth. This is the highest order of crimes against the Earth and all of its creatures.

  • razzz razzz

    The leaks flow or dump into the basements which have their own cracks and leaks where the groundwater table moves in thru the basement cracks or even thru breached connecting tunnels.

    TEPCO tries to balance the radioactive contaminated water removal (supposedly sent for filtering) from the basements by not pumping the water level any lower than the surrounding water table or the water table will flow in. At the same time if TEPCO allows the basements to fill up higher than the surrounding water table, the radioactive contaminated water will flow out of the basement cracks and into the freshwater table.

    The cooling water TEPCO pumps in to shower and cool any melt residue (showers because the containment is not water tight) is suppose to be semi-filtered water running in a loop from basements to filtration and back again to be injected from the top of the blown reactors and flowing back down into the basements. Some leaks out to the water table. Some mixes with the incoming water table because they can't control the ebb and flow of the water table including saltwater intrusions (ocean low and high tides).

    The first step in filtration is for desalting before sending it to the non-functioning filtering for removal of radionuclides. The entire loop(s) must be radioactive by now since TEPCO can't remove all the radioactive contamination and sends it around in a loop.

    • Do you have a link to this explanation, because it is a first.. Did TEPCO say this somewhere?

      You are right of course, but without numbers attached it is still a huge guessing game. How much water is going into each of the reactors per minute?

      How much is coming back out?

      How much is pouring or leaking into the basements?

      How much are they pulling back out?

      • jec jec

        Fukushima Diary has a great article..and mentions numbers..also the article by the young Japanese woman in Duessldorf..lays out actual volume. Its posted in these areas of ENENEWS.

  • another bold outright lie…

    In my opinion the images provided tell a much different story.

  • FXofTruth

    TEPCO throws numbers out like a drunken sailor trying to buy a whore. "I'll pay you (burp, stumble) $35 for it….(barfing) wait baby, I was just kidding. How's a thousand million dollars (stumble, fall, butt crack showing)…ok, ok, ok I'm serious now! I'll pay you whatever you want (drops the wallet down a street drain then, falls into oncoming traffic.)"

    First they are releasing 200 tons a day of poisoned water then 400 now its 75 tons. WTF is it? Over three years and TEPCO is still guessing at the amount of water they are destroying? Simple math is the best way to go.

    Hot, molten radioactive cores turn water to super heated steam in a second. It would take 100's of tons of water a minute to control (these forever out of control) cores to the point they don't explode. So, the real numbers are in the 1000's of tons an hour.

    Don't forget…the water rushes pass these molten cores and will turn to steam if the water hesitates for a second. It's not like a swimming pool with the water just calmly sitting there rippling along. We have N E V E R seen pictures of the water coming from the cores; or the water flowing to the cores; or the water flowing into the ocean. Not a single photo.

    So it's really hard to believe a single statement would ever be true from these captains of this nuclear Titanic vessel that is heading headlong into an ice wall!

    • How does TEPCO measure and come up with these numbers?

      Do they throw a dart against a wall that has numbers written on it?

      The press and most of the public is like a monkey, blindly repeating whatever TEPCO says, and believing it.

      NO questions about how did you come up with this number? What is it based on?

      On the one hand, they say nothing left containment, but on the other, every reactor is open and without pressure, indicating one or more leaks, holes, fissures, cracks, etc. They claim to have no idea how many holes, nor how much water is flowing out of them.

      How can they know how much water is leaking out of the basements?

      They don't know where the coriums are, so how can they know if they even left containment, or how much water is flowing past these coriums, assuming they left and went down into the groundwater table?

      For all anyone knows, there might be 1,000,000 TONS of water per MINUTE of radioactive water going into the ocean.. This number is just as valid as the 400 tons TEPCO seems to be sticking with.

  • rogerthat

    Harry Belafonte – There's a Hole in the Bucket – YouTube
    With Odetta (Odetta Holmes) Belfonte performed this traditional folk song on May 2, 1960 in Carnegie Hall. This version appeared on his album, "Belafonte Returns to Carnegie Hall". A spadecaller video

    • TEPCO has multiple reactors that are nothing more then expensive, very rusty buckets with multiple holes in them.

      They are pouring water in, and have no idea what happens after that.

      They also seem to have no interest in finding out either..

      Unlike the Soviets, no nuclear scientists are stepping up to risk or sacrifice their lives in order to save humanity and find out where the coriums are, where the leaks are, how big they are, how much water is flowing out, etc.

      They are willing to sacrifice humanity and all life on the planet via slow nuclear poisoning, in order to live a few more days themselves.

  • Nick

    TEPCO and a slew of other international behemoths are not at all interested in slowing down the nuclear gravy train.

    The cavalier attitude towards this Fiasco says it all.

    The nuclear nuts are terrified that people will shun their efforts, thus the full bench press to obfuscate and deceive.

    I have never gotten one iota of confidence that TEPCO or any other nuclear industrial entity gives a rat's ass about anything but their own.

    The corporate tentacles that hold the Japanese economy are woven throughout the global economy, thus the strangle-hold on any meaningful reform of the nuclear behemoths beyond "safety".

    The CLAXON of climate change is ringing louder and LOUDER. Much of the noise generated by the nuclear nuts and those whose stock portfolios benefit from same.

    It is an impossible conundrum. You can't fix Fukushima anyway, the damage is going to reverberate down through time until the sun becomes a red giant.

    So the military and civilian nuclear armies march on, taking us all over the cliff.

    There is no exit folks.

  • jec jec

    The corrosion and age of equipment will be the "gotcha". See in Virginia, a pump bolts sheered off..Westinhouse pumps.

    Anyone you know have those pumps which can sheer and stop the water impeller?(sp). I just know my water impeller on our boat engine..if if fails..our engine heats up and fries…same for a nuclear plant!

  • GreenRenew GreenRenew

    Though I've been reading for quite some time, this is my first post. I (we) need help. Moments ago I opened a petition on the White House petition site. It quite simply asks the White House to apply pressure to Japan to exempt information about Fukushima Daiichi from their new State Secrets Act. Until 150 people support it, it will not show publicly. Once it reaches 150 and is shown publicly, it then needs 100,000 signatures by June 30 for White House action. Here's the link.

    Short URL:

    Long URL:

    Please share this with your friends, colleagues, etc. Post it on FaceBook, etc.

    Thank you.

    • clamshellernh clamshellernh

      Welcome !
      My take on White House petitions
      Don't bother they do not work
      It may make you feel better however
      There where many done on many subjects when they put that site together
      I have not heard of anything coming from it
      Has anyone here ?
      I remember when 25,000 was the top number then they changed it on us to 100,000

  • GreenRenew GreenRenew

    BTW, the size of the petition is severely limited. Though there is doomsday-type information out there, the petition did not foretell the end of the world. Rather, to appeal to the rational public to build support, it could not be seen as extremist.

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