Document shows nuclear fuel burned through bottom of containment vessel under Fukushima reactor — Official: Leakage we observed indicates melt-through by ‘shell attack’ — “This is a very big problem… fuel debris in the PCV is doing something bad” (VIDEO)

Published: July 13th, 2015 at 10:24 am ET
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Shunichi Suzuki, Tokyo Electric Power Co., 2014 IRID Symposium (emphasis added):

• Part 30 – “This is the current situation… This is Unit No. 1, this shows the the lower part of the PCV [primary containment vessel]… Based on the results of research so far… the ‘sand cushion drain’… water is leaking here, which means that this section above there is damaged — so that is highly possible. Therefore, this is a very big problem, because if this is damaged, then one possibility is that shell attack has happened [see drawing by General Electric at bottom right]. So the debris in the PCV is doing something bad to this, so we have to take that into consideration for investigation.”

• Part 31 – “Unit 2… the water level [in the suppression chamber] and the water level in the torus room is about the same . What that means is that at the bottom [of the S/C], there could be a hole. Not only there, but also there is a pump room and there are other pipings here, so that needs needs to be considered as well when they conduct the investigation.”

• Part 42 – “Unit 1… there is little fuel remaining in the core… Fuel debris exists even outside the pedestal. Therefore we give priority to outside pedestal investigation. I talked about suppression chamber earlier, shell attack has happened perhapsI said that — shell attack in Unit 1 is something like this. Debris may exist around here so… there is some fuel that has penetrated outside the pedestal… If debris is outside the pedestal we can’t reach it, therefore we have to consider opening a side area – it’s very unique… Regarding Unit 2 and 3… in Unit 3 we presume that more fuel than we expected has fallen down to the PCV… we cannot deny the possibility that fuel has gone outside the pedestal.”

• Part 55 – “This is a MAAP example [computer code used for estimating fuel debris position]. Improvement points… the height is increasing, we had a single transfer path [for the molten fuel], but it is going to be multiple paths. And also debris, a uniform debris deposit was the assumption, now however asymmetrical distribution has to be considered. And also debris below the PCV bottom [see TEPCO drawing at middle right], the behavior has to be considered.”

• Part 95 – “The level of damage is high so it may not be able to stop water… and it may not be possible to fully cover the fuel debris. In such a case innovative approaches could be considered.”

See also: US gov’t analysis says Fukushima is more serious than ‘China Syndrome’ — Destroyed reactors suffered drywell shell melt-through, the worst type of containment failure

And: Image published by embassy in Japan shows Fukushima melted fuel deep underground

Watch Suzuki’s presentation here

Published: July 13th, 2015 at 10:24 am ET
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264 comments to Document shows nuclear fuel burned through bottom of containment vessel under Fukushima reactor — Official: Leakage we observed indicates melt-through by ‘shell attack’ — “This is a very big problem… fuel debris in the PCV is doing something bad” (VIDEO)

  • rogerthat

    http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/?tag=hydrazine

    Fukushima Daiichi’s Little Known Hydrazine Problem
    July 13th, 2015

    Recent Roadmap reports on activity at the plant have shown that hydrazine is still in use. The chemical was used in 2011 in an attempt to combat corrosion in the reactors and spent fuel pools. It is an oxygen scavenger, this may have been an additional reason for using this additive beyond the anti-corrosion benefit.

    Hydrazine has been well identified as a toxic chemical harmful to humans and the environment. Japan has had their own reporting rules … Read entire article »


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  • Sickputer

    The new TV serial based on James Patterson's book Zoo mentioned Fukushima twice in ine minute. Young Japanese scientist blaming the crazed animal outbreak on radiation fallout. Very interesting episode tonight. Maybe modern TV serves the will of the state more than we can understand.

    I can see this TV series softening up the brain dead public for a government announcement down the line.


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    • from a distance from a distance

      melting mermaid posted this fascinating movie called

      "Knocking on the Devil's Door: Our Deadly Nuclear Legacy"
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUPPWIzuOR0&app=desktop

      This movie is full of INTERESTING info.

      For example, QUOTING GREG PALAST regarding Hillary Clinton and the nuclear power company "Entergy" and the investigation of Rose Law Firm billing records ===>

      Hillary Clinton's “big client was Entergy which now owns the Indian Point nuclear plant in New York, where Senator Clinton was very reluctant to call for the closure of this obvious danger right near New York City.”

      “They [Entergy] basically own the Clinton family, and I saw this when I was working an investigation in Britain where Entergy, this little company from Little Rock, Arkansas, bought the entire London electric system because of the connection between Entergy and the Clintons and their influence with the Blair government in Britain. And then Entergy turned around and flipped the London electric company for a billion dollar profit in just a few months.
      it's a way to pay the Governor [Bill Clinton] by hiring his wife for doing nothing."

      "…and today Entergy is at the forefront of the nuclear industry in the U.S., and at the forefront of buying up plants cheap and then getting extensions on the life of these plants, plants that are almost ready to be shut down, and should be; they use their political power to get an extension on the plant and then they get

      continued…


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      • from a distance from a distance

        free money, billions of dollars for extra decades. It's quite a game.”

        @57:40 in video “Knocking on the Devil's Door: Our Deadly Nuclear Legacy”
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUPPWIzuOR0&app=desktop


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        • from a distance from a distance

          oops. A paragraph got cut off.

          The post should read:

          Quoting Greg Palast:

          Hillary Clinton's “big client was Entergy which now owns the Indian Point nuclear plant in New York, where Senator Clinton was very reluctant to call for the closure of this obvious danger right near New York City.”

          “They [Entergy] basically own the Clinton family, and I saw this when I was working an investigation in Britain where Entergy, this little company from Little Rock, Arkansas, bought the entire London electric system because of the connection between Entergy and the Clintons and their influence with the Blair government in Britain. And then Entergy turned around and flipped the London electric company for a billion dollar profit in just a few months.

          What does Entergy do for the President and for the first lady at the time? Remember that there was an investigation of her billing records? I never heard anyone say who she was supposedly billing where the billing records were faked. The company was Entergy! Entergy knows if they were deliberately overcharged. And maybe they wanted to be overcharged because it's a way to pay the Governor [Bill Clinton] by hiring his wife for doing nothing."


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          • from a distance from a distance

            continued…

            "They knew it, and they could do what they want, and today Entergy is at the forefront of the nuclear industry in the U.S., and at the forefront of buying up plants cheap and then getting extensions on the life of these plants, plants that are almost ready to be shut down, and should be; they use their political power to get an extension on the plant and then they get free money, billions of dollars for extra decades. It's quite a game.”

            @57:40 in video “Knocking on the Devil's Door: Our Deadly Nuclear Legacy”
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUPPWIzuOR0&app=desktop


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            • from a distance from a distance

              So disregard the first 2 posts and instead read the 3rd and 4th posts. Sorry.


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              • from a distance from a distance

                Also in the movie, Harvey Wasserman discusses the myth that there have been no problems with U.S. reactors:

                Harvey Wasserman says, “The apologists for nuclear power love to say that we've had no problems here with the reactors here in the United States, and it's utterly absurd; it's basically the blind deceiving the uninformed, because the reality is that American atomic energy has been plagued by serious problems right from the get-go and every one of these reactors in the United States … (there are 23 that are virtually identical to Fukushima Unit 1) have a terrible track record.

                For example, the Davis-Besse reactor, which is a clone of Three Mile Island, the irresponsibility of the operators of this reactor allowed a boric-acid-leak to eat almost all the way the through the reactor pressure vessel that contains the core reaction in a nuclear power plant. Another fraction of an inch and we could very well have had a Chernobyl on Lake Eerie.

                We also had a meltdown and near-explosion at the Fermie One nuclear reactor on October 5, 1966. The authorities were actually contemplating how they would evacuate Detroit when this reactor, which was cooled with liquid sodium, actually could have exploded and put a radioactive crater in southeastern Michigan.

                We have constant leaks at the Indian Point and Oyster Creek reactors in New York and New Jersey."

                continued…


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                • from a distance from a distance

                  continuing…

                  "We have clear problems and reactors on earthquake faults, and I mean very very close, within a mile of major earthquake faults at Diablo Canyon, California and San Onofre, California.”

                  @38:00, Harvey Wasserman – Knocking on the Devil's Door: Our Deadly Nuclear Legacy – directed by Gary Null
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUPPWIzuOR0&app=desktop


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                  • melting mermaid melting mermaid

                    If you watch one movie this year, make it this one. It is very important that Hillary not win this election for those of us who are sick of this madness. For those of us who would like to save this planet and not exploit it to the grave.


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                    • from a distance from a distance

                      melting mermaid, promote the movie everywhere you can think of…go to thehill.com and post it on every article and go to thedrudgereport which lists every online media source and email the link to every journalist and every editor and email the link to every online newspaper, etc.

                      that's a sure way to get some focus on the movie


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                    • melting mermaid melting mermaid

                      Everyone should…thanks for watching it. I've been looking for it for a long time. Thanks to Heart for the initial link and Jebus posted the movie. And thanks again Gary Null, wherever you are and associates. Send a link to your Congressmen and relatives. The world is running out of time to WAKE UP!


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      • mt1000

        very, very interesting on Clintons.

        There was a news-hoax during the Kerry pres. campaign days before election when they 'revealed' Osama Bin Laden was rooting for Kerry for president. A plainly manufactured story.

        This Trump pres. "campaign" has the same smell. Doesn't it seem to be a cock-up by the Clintons to seal Hil's nomination in the same way as the Bin Laden story?
        And these prison escapes-by-elaborate-tunnel stories seem to be convenient too.
        Everything smells.


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    • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

      Hey Sp :) yep, I had very similar thoughts… hmmm, so the ptb are gonna break it to us gently… slowly let us get used to the idea. From the Simpsons who were used to help us not be afraid, of nuke for power, I mean really? who is gonna be afraid of a lovable buffoon with 4 fingers? So what he accidentally takes home nuke waste in his pants, and so what they eat 3 eyed fish…aren't they cute?

      So, yes, this is absolutely the propaganda machine working as planned for all things sheeple.


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  • tinfoilhatbrian tinfoilhatbrian

    Is there anybody surprised that the reactors that got blown to hell melted down immediately? Saw it on NHK the day it happened on public broadcast. The world saw it. I stayed out of the rain stocked food etc. but the government didn't advise me to. I have only met a handful of people that knew anything or even believed it happened was when big media started running stories. A little late for many people who took no precautions at all. Bummer


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    • mt1000

      yeah!

      And the coriums are far, far below the plant. They melt downward because they are so friggin' hot!
      Leuren Moret and others explain it very well.
      Only the nuke industry goons pretend the coriums are like spilled milk… just sitting there on the floor.


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  • rogerthat

    sante fe new mexican series (subscription only):

    http://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/local_news/los-alamos-will-never-be-clean/article_a3cc7ce1-8af0-5113-8f38-5d4aa673fd7a.html

    SUNDAY, July 12
    Those who worked on the bomb felt it was better than allowing war to continue, and many still feel that way today. Read more.
    MONDAY, July 13
    After suffering for decades from Trinity’s aftermath, downwinders are only now beginning to be heard.
    TUESDAY, July 14
    The bomb that helped end World War II also left behind a legacy of contaminated waste that may never be completely cleaned up.
    WEDNESDAY, July 15
    Trinity forged a tragic link between New Mexico and Japan. Now Japan and the lab that built the bomb are working together.
    THURSDAY, July 16
    Long after the Cold War, the world is as dangerous as ever — another legacy of Trinity

    Related Stories
    Downwinders seek acknowledgement that Trinity test caused sufferingRelated: Trinity test 70th-anniversary eventsRelated: A legacy of duty, destructionRelated: Trinity timeline

    Related Links
    Waste Lands: America's forgotten nuclear legacy


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  • rogerthat

    http://www.cibolabeacon.com/news/group-files-objection-with-state-engineer/article_3f0751ba-2768-11e5-9d02-bfceed409b83.html

    Group Files Objection with State Engineer
    HOMESTAKE’S REMEDIATION PROCESS

    Friday, July 10, 2015
    By Rosanne Boyett
    CIBOLA COUNTY – Laura Watchempino, Laguna-Acoma Coalition for a Safe Environment, acknowledged that an objection has been filed with the Office of the State Engineer concerning the Homestake Mining property north of Milan.

    L-ACSE and the Bluewater Valley Downstream Alliance are core groups of the Multi-Cultural Alliance for a Safe Environment. The BVDA is a group of citizens from neighboring communities located south and west of the Homestake Superfund site.

    The objection was filed by the BVDA on June 1.
    It concerns the application by Homestake-Barrick Gold to increase its use of the San Andres-Glorieta Aquifer.

    The document is titled, “Objection to Homestake Mining Company of California Application for a Temporary Permit to Appropriate Ground Water in the Bluewater Basin, New Mexico and Request for Hearing.”…

    … H-BG continues to rely on dilution as its primary remediation technique, noted BVDA members.
    "Dilution is not the solution," contend BVDA and MASE officials.

    The SAGA is the primary domestic water source for the communities of Grants and Milan. “As far as we know, it is the one aquifer that has not been contaminated by H-BG operations,” according to MASE members. …


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  • rogerthat

    http://news.stlpublicradio.org/post/new-documentary-explores-st-louis-connection-nuclear-waste-contamination

    New documentary explores St. Louis' connection to nuclear waste contamination
    By EVITA CALDWELL • 8 HOURS AGO


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  • rogerthat

    http://safeenergy.org/2015/07/13/the-nuclear-industry-is-still-lobbying/

    The nuclear industry is still lobbying for a bailout in EPA’s Clean Power Plan. Maybe you should be lobbying too.


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  • rogerthat

    http://safeenergy.org/2015/07/02/powerful-new-study-shows-radiogenic-risks/

    Powerful new study shows radiogenic risks of leukemia 50% greater than previously thought

    by Dr. Ian Fairlie, reposted with permission from his blog here.


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  • rogerthat

    http://allthingsnuclear.org/nuclear-autopsies/

    Nuclear Autopsies

    Dave Lochbaum, director, Nuclear Safety Project
    July 14, 2015

    Nuclear Energy Activist Toolkit #59


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  • rogerthat

    http://mainichi.jp/english/english/newsselect/news/20150714p2a00m0na006000c.html

    Decontamination of 'J-Village' soccer facility begins ahead of 2020 Olympics


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  • rogerthat

    http://chronicle.augusta.com/news/metro/2015-07-13/mox-contractor-report-refutes-energy-department-cost-estimates-analysis

    - among the comments:

    geecheeriverman 07/14/15:

    Construction began in 2007. It will continue until 3007, or longer, as long as the well connected political hacks and cronies are being fed at the money trough being subsidized 100% by the ever shrinking hard working taxpayers. This has been a money-pit from the very beginning. It is being used by politicians to enrich their buddies.

    TClements 07/14/15 No MOX accountability?

    When will politicians demand accountability for the mismanagement of this project by DOE/NNSA and CB&I AREVA MOX Services? Rather than hold anyone accountable, the main goal of Senator Lindsey Graham and Rep. Joe Wilson has been to transfer as much of our money for as long as possible to the MOX contractor. If Graham wants to further run up the debt when president, he's had top-of-the-line training on one of the most expensive and wasteful projects in US history.

    —- Tom Clements, SRS Watch, Columbia, SC


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    • from a distance from a distance

      Greg Palast discusses this in the movie "Knocking on the Devil's Door: Our Deadly Nuclear Legacy"

      Quoting Greg Palast:

      "One of the grand myths of nuclear power is that it's cheap. In fact, nuclear power, as far as I can tell, is probably the most expensive form per kilowatt hour.

      For example, the south Texas project had won U.S. government guarantees because they said they could build these two plants for 5 billion dollars. Toshiba… knew that the project would cost at least 8 billion dollars when they applied for the U.S. government guarantees. This is an old game in nuclear. They tell you it's 5 billion, then it's 8 billion, by the way the project's latest numbers are 13 billion. But guess what, the U.S. taxpayer is now already on the hook for the money. And for the first time ever, the U.S. government has agreed to pay if a project stops and you never get a dime of the money.

      I gotta tell you that the nuclear industry spent close to 100 billion dollars on projects that were never completed and never ran for a single day.”

      continued…

      DID YOU catch that – ONE HUNDRED BILLIONS DOLLARS…..WASTED!


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  • rogerthat

    http://www.knoxnews.com/news/local-news/does-oak-ridge-cleanup-target-may-reach-2067_90678287

    DOE's Oak Ridge cleanup target may reach 2067
    Frank Munger
    Jul 13, 2015

    OAK RIDGE — The Department of Energy’s negotiated schedule with environmental regulators calls for completion of Oak Ridge cleanup projects by 2047, but a state official acknowledged there’s a chance it could be extended for another 20 years.

    The cleanup program has been an evolving effort since the early 1980s, when the legacy of pollution from the World War II and Cold War nuclear weapons work came to the public’s attention in a big way.

    Since then, billions of dollars have been spent on cleanup projects in Oak Ridge, and DOE remains under pressure from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and the Tennessee Department of Environment and Conservation to comply with the nation’s environmental laws and commit to the needed — and extremely expensive — projects.

    When will it all be completed?

    That is a question that’s been asked and debated for few decades, and the date of completion keeps getting pushed further into the future. During the early days of cleanup, there was a lack of understanding of how much cleanup would actually be required to comply with terms of the Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation, and Liability Act — the so-called Superfund Act.

    There also was a long learning curve in estimating how much it would cost to remove hundreds of contaminated buildings,…


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    • rogerthat

      decommission old reactors, and deal with leaking waste burial sites and tainted groundwater.

      Congress has to appropriate the money for the massive cleanup tasks at Oak Ridge and other DOE sites, and there is a continuing competition for that funding, especially as budget pressures grow.

      For the past several years, the planned date of completion for the Oak Ridge environmental work has been set at 2046 or thereabouts.

      Recently, however, there have been indications that the completion date is going to get extended again.

      When asked recently about plans for cleaning up White Oak Lake, a 25-acre lake that received some of the worst radioactive discharges from the early nuclear work at Oak Ridge, a state official said the Department of Energy is supposed to provide a range of alternatives by 2036.

      That’s the date contained in Federal Facility Agreement, which was negotiated by TDEC, EPA and DOE.

      But Chris Thompson, the state official who oversees the DOE-sponsored Ridge cleanup activities in Oak Ridge, said recent projections of future cleanup funding from DOE indicate that the decision on White Oak Lake may be delayed until 2048.

      If that proves to be the case, it would the overall deadline for Oak Ridge cleanup activities may be delayed as well.

      Thompson noted that an appendix to the legally binding Federal Facility Agreement has the completion date for Oak Ridge cleanup set at 2047.

      However, the state official said a DOE modeling system …


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      • rogerthat

        based on future budget reductions proposes an overall cleanup date around 2067.

        “As you can see, end dates change significantly based on DOE’s budget projections,” she said.

        At this point, TDEC still expects the Department of Energy to finish its environmental cleanup commitments by 2047, Thompson said.

        Copyright 2015 Journal Media Group. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.


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  • rogerthat

    this sounds interesting: (subscription only)

    http://www.timesonline.com/news/local_news/beaver-valley-nuclear-plant-s-emergency-zone-gets-adjusted/article_2dd257ee-29a4-11e5-8977-5f8850404076.html

    Beaver Valley nuclear plant's emergency zone gets adjusted
    July 14, 2015

    SHIPPINGPORT — The Nuclear Regulatory Commission has approved a request from FirstEnergy Corp. to modify the emergency planning zone boundary related to its Beaver Valley Nuclear Power Station. …


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  • rogerthat

    http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865632525/Depleted-uranium-should-not-be-Utah7s-problem-to-solve-alone.html?pg=all

    My view: Depleted uranium should not be Utah’s problem to solve alone

    By Ashley Soltysiak
    For the Deseret News
    Tuesday, July 14 2015

    Utah will soon face a huge decision — whether or not to allow the disposal of depleted uranium (DU), an extremely long-lived nuclear waste, at EnergySolutions’ facility in our West Desert. But here’s the question that state officials and all Utahns should be asking first: Why are the feds so eager to offload their 700,000-ton problem on our state?

    This disposal problem originated decades ago. In 1982, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission published rules governing nuclear waste disposal. Back then, the NRC didn’t anticipate the massive volumes of DU that another federal agency, the Department of Energy, would eventually need a place to stash.

    When the NRC made its rules, it created three distinctive waste classes. Class A waste, the least hazardous waste class, is the only kind accepted in Utah.

    However, a few types of waste were left out because some of their properties — like increasing in radioactivity or being extremely long lived — complicated their classification. These uncategorized “unique waste streams” are legally considered Class A by a regulatory loophole. But their properties are very different than their Class A cohorts’.

    DU is the best known of these “unique waste” streams. It is radically…


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    • rogerthat

      different from other Class A waste. Instead of gradually degrading and becoming much less dangerous within a few hundred years, DU actually increases in hazard for 2.1 million years. It will eventually exceed Class A hazard levels — which unequivocally violates our ban.

      That’s why the NRC, in a recent hearing in Salt Lake City, has stated that properly classifying this waste is a priority, although not at the top of its to-do list.

      This federal bureaucratic delay provides a small window of opportunity for EnergySolutions to capitalize and push Utah to accept DU — before it becomes officially classified out of their reach. They’ve got big-time motivation. According to a company spokesman, they are estimated to earn $15 to $20 million annually if awarded the federal contract.

      The irony here is that a viable federal disposal site already exists. The Nevada test site has taken small quantities of DU in the past and is federally owned and operated. That begs the question: Why don’t the feds manage their own problem? Wouldn’t it be cheaper to internalize those disposal costs?

      Another big policy question: If a state like Utah is forced to take DU, which is vastly different than the short-lived waste we typically accept, what implications will this have nationally?

      The nation’s current disposal facilities — in Utah, Washington, Texas and South Carolina — exist to safely get rid of low-level radioactive materials, like medical waste or …


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      • rogerthat

        lightly contaminated materials from the nuclear power industry. But when commercial sites, like EnergySolutions, are granted permission to take an extremely long-lived and radioactive substance like DU, it will make it much harder to place facilities like these anywhere else.

        When the current sites close in the decades to come, and a new community is asked to take on waste like this, will they want to sign a 2.1 million year contact with a company that might be there to monitor it for a century or two — at best? Probably not. This will potentially leave the industry, states and communities holding a very radioactive bag.

        Hopefully Gov. Gary Herbert and his environmental officials won’t let Utah be a dumping ground for the federal government’s DU problem. They showed healthy skepticism in their evaluation of EnergySolutions’ initial safety study. But the ultimate “yes” or “no” decision is coming, as early as this fall. Depleted uranium isn’t Utah’s problem to solve. Let’s keep it that way.

        Ashley Soltysiak is HEAL Utah’s policy associate.


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      • melting mermaid melting mermaid

        Depleted uranium increases in hazard for 2.1 million years??? Well lets mass produce some more. It's all about jobs??? Right?? God help us. These nukers don't think ahead much, do they?


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        • West Aussie West Aussie

          Just takes your breath away, this utterly transparent attack on, and consequential genocide of, the human genome.
          We don't deserve this. Yet it's us who built our own coffin. These things (nuke reactors, etc.) didn't get built by the Elites. They were built by people like you and me.
          They just bribed the ignorant with jobs and money so they wouldn't worry their brains about the consequences.
          Prison planet.
          Thanks for the info, Rogerthat, and unfortunately for me, melting mermaid, I've worked along side construction workers and they are as Mark Passio would say, the "Un-begun" or the "Dead", in that they will remove all thought of care when directed to, and often as not, will of their own free will disregard all ethical considerations saying that's for the 'eggs' and beat-up on anyone who points out this sad state of affairs to them.
          I'm afraid the nukers don't have to think too far ahead to get a compliant workforce to carry out their plans, MM.
          In retaliation to all this I've added another panel to the Uncle-Daddy saga… https://horserotovator.wordpress.com/2015/06/15/its-a-one-horserotovator-town/
          It's all I can do to stay sane. Cheers all.


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  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    CodeShutdown says, above on Pg. 1 of this thread:
    July 14, 2015 at 6:15 pm · Reply
    "…building sea walls and filling the bay with clay would stop most of the radioactive flow to the ocean. Because theres an underground stream, this needs to be blocked uphill of course. Thats do-able. Thus water flux to the ocean could be…eliminated."

    Code: Anything that could greatly reduce contamination of the Pacific Ocean would be a very good thing.
    Not only that, it would be cheap to do.
    And we all know how much Tepco likes cheap. ;)
    Your suggestions are great!

    The new cover for Chernobyl is now nearing completion.
    I like the quonset cover concept, because it is cheap, and because the foundation requirements would be far less than that required for a concrete sarcophagus.
    The structure could be vented with HEPA iltration to allow work to proceed inside.

    The reactor and containment vessels could be filled with a shielding mix, which would be self sealing, and in the far future, could be removed for more rigorous decontamination to proceed. Again, cheap and effective.

    I share your concern about the spent fuel situation. All cool fuel should go into dry cask storage immediately.
    Units 5&6, and the CSFP, could be immediately emptied into dry cask storage, for the most part. SFP1-3 must be emptied while the quonset cover is under construction.

    If you are correct, and the corium has stopped just under the reactor buildings, it should be possible to remove or…


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  • from a distance from a distance

    Quoting Dr. Busby –>

    "The risk model and the health effects of low doses of internal ionizing radiation are the biggest public scandal in human history and everybody will suffer as a result of this cover up by the nuclear lobby and by its friends in high places. And in fact I have to tell you at the moment there is some evidence that it has very very powerful friends in high places. One of these for example, the ex-head of the International Commission on Radiological Protection (this is the outfit that created this risk model that says everything is safe) this man is now the medical officer of health for Sweden. Isn't it astonishing? It would be a laughing matter if it weren't so tragic.

    I don't know quite what one has to do in order to penetrate this glass barrier between the truth, the scientific truth, and now what we see is the published evidence in scientific papers, in peer-reviewed papers, between this barrier and the people who actually make policies in this area. It doesn't seem possible to break through…how many people have to die before somebody will take notice?"

    continued…


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  • from a distance from a distance

    Good grief!

    " Boeing has just been granted a patent on a design for aircraft powered by nuclear fusion, writes Karl Grossman. What a great idea! Apart from the irradiation of plane and passengers with neutrons and gamma rays, the dangers of radioactive contamination … and the fact that clean, green solar powered flight is taking off.

    Consider getting on to an airplane with nuclear-powered engines.

    Consider the consequences if an atomic airplane crashes."

    "The Boeing scheme would have lasers in an airplane engine bombard deuterium or tritium causing a nuclear explosion with its force providing thrust."

    "Imagine getting into an airplane that has minor nuclear explosions for propulsion. What about the implications of such an aircraft going down? We just saw an F-16 come down over South Carolina, its jet engine landing in someone's backyard."

    Source: "Nuclear powered aircraft? Nice idea, Boeing …" by
    Karl Grossman, 14th July 2015

    http://www.theecologist.org/blogs_and_comments/Blogs/2942783/nuclear_powered_aircraft_nice_idea_boeing.html


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    • melting mermaid melting mermaid

      Hopefully it's just a fleece the taxpayers scam and not a real plan. Lol.


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    • RAY-D-8-TED-DREAMS

      Since nuclear fusion hasn't actually been developed yet I think this is a patent whose real purpose is to get a stranglehold on actual nuclear fusion by patenting the procedures believed to be needed. Also I think there are plans being kicked around about using fusion as a drive system for interplanetary flight so this patent also gives them something to use to control or block other developers. Basically its a legal scam like those people that buy old patents and sue and sue and sue to squeeze bucks out of real companies. Bury them in costly litigation and the only way out of the legal expenses is to cave in and pay the royalties. But in this case they are creating patents on as yet undeveloped technology. (Or are they keeping something big a secret?)


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    • ORNL, Convair NB-36H Peacemaker and WS125 Nuclear-Powered Aircraft Reactor Experiment (ARE), Secret Government Nuclear Jet Engine Projects
      http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2013/07/convair-nb-36h-peacemaker-and-ws125.html


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  • RAY-D-8-TED-DREAMS

    Satoru Iwata the CEO of Nintendo died on July 11th of Bile duct cancer which is extremely rare and is caused by Thorium exposure
    He lived in Tokyo but was born in Sapporo.
    From wikipedia "Cholangiocarcinoma is a relatively rare neoplasm that is classified as an adenocarcinoma (a cancer that forms glands or secretes significant amounts of mucins). It has an annual incidence rate of 1–2 cases per 100,000 in the Western world…)" One of the causes of this disease is exposure to Thorium dioxide which is used in nuclear fuel !!!
    >>>The compound is radioactive due to the radioactivity of thorium. Thorium dioxide can turned into a nuclear fuel by breeding it into uranium-233 (see below and refer to the article on thorium for more information on this

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cholangiocarcinoma

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorium_dioxide


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    In Reply; rogerthat
    July 15, 2015 at 4:15 am ·this sounds interesting:
    Beaver Valley nuclear plant's emergency zone gets adjusted

    This is in my back yard! and I didnt see this article!
    If you have time; peruse this link while I dig deeper:
    http://investors.firstenergycorp.com/AsReportedViewer.aspx?id=27740735
    No notice here: https://www.firstenergycorp.com/newsroom.html

    Here is a great overview of how FUKU'ed we are:
    http://triblive.com/business/headlines/7100062-74/storage-fuel-nuclear#axzz3g2i6G8vr

    One last 20,000 foot overview of regional info"
    http://triblive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/regional/s_744217.html#axzz3g2i6G8vr remote control center

    Peace All


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      The overview includes this howler: "that a catastrophic loss of electricity and all backup power at a plant could leave operators without the ability to maintain water in the pools inside reactor buildings, though the pools at the Japanese plant remained full."


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  • General User General User

    one last example of "it will cost too much"
    http://triblive.com/home/1074866-74/pittsburgh-allegheny-a-send-to-dti-print-edition-front-page-stories#axzz3g2i6G8vr

    Just a footnote: I am 10 miles & 1200 feet down wind of this plant. I sleep in the bunker, with two Geiger counters. One on the air intake, one on the South-east corner of the shelter. Naw, I'm not paranoid, they are after me,,,

    Peace All


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    Posted: Thursday, June 11, 2015 4:10 pm

    By Jared Stonesifer
    jstonesifer@timesonline.com

    SHIPPINGPORT — A six-member team from the Nuclear Regulatory Commission will travel to the Beaver Valley Nuclear Power Station in late July to make sure the facility is complying with regulations put in place after the Fukushima, Japan, disaster in 2011.


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  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    Some of Tepcos diagrams show parts of the plant below sea level. Elvis has left the building. With all the cracks and breaks from the earthquake and the radioactive cores, fuel and water, the sea water is in. Groundwater from above would travel above seawater, or around, slightly diffusing. The cores would be suspended in seawater, regardless their location. Diverting groundwater from west would still leave the sea water that sits under the plants, as it should… Why they're water level didn't go down? when I dig a hole at the beach, it quickly fills with water- to sea level.


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  • 12+ Methods That TEPCO Could Use To Find Lost Coriums At Fukushima – Could It Be That TEPCO Already Knows China Syndrome Happened?
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2014/07/11-methods-that-tepco-could-use-to-find.html


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