Published: July 18th, 2011 at 10:39 am ET
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Monitoring continues around Las Conchas Fire near Los Alamos, Taos News, July 16, 2011:
[New Mexico Environment Department's DOE Oversight Bureau chief Thomas Skibitski] said the department will be looking for radionuclides related to energy and weapons research, as well as industrialtype contaminants [...]
He said contaminants, such as those from atmospheric weapons testing that occurred 50-60 years ago, may get “remobilized and redistributed downstream” [...]
He said the department may find “measurable levels” of contaminants that don’t pose health or environmental risks, and standards may be exceeded during storm events. [...]
“Sometimes that will manifest itself as a health advisory,” he said. [...]
Published: July 18th, 2011 at 10:39 am ET
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Rio Grande farmers in South Texas who irrigate food crops are going to get radionuclides and other waste in their fruits and vegetables and cities that drink the the water are also going to drink up the legacy products of the US nuclear weapons industry. Only the strong and lucky will survive this future shock.
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Posted to Murdoch Thread at HP. Oops!
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Damn poster FLAGGED me. comment removed.
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The Pentagon has recently tagged the web as a theatre of war.
We have no choice but to fight it.
And, fight it we shall.
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We Are Fighters – Not Lovers = AFTER FUKUSALL, right? Right!
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You said it Whoopie! (and how)
Strange that they can collude at top levels to shut down information but cannot get together at those same levels to help fix it.
Unless of course, it really is un-fixable, nothing humans can do except put up a plastic cover for TEPCO’s Yakuza smoke breaks.
Two (or more) nuclear engineers have used that phrase now: “nothing we can do.” (Gundersen, Michael Friedlander):
Interview on Bloomberg
[Michael Friedlander, Nuclear Engineer]
http://www.bloomberg.com/video/71458358/
Michio Kaku earlier said to bury it, but this guy says it has to be cooled first (same as what Gundersen says?).
And the Gulf, Chernobyl, Los Alamos, Hanford, Fort Calhoun, 75% of reactors leaking tritium?
Information blackouts, lies, lots of death down the road. Ugly planet, not worth living on.
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Thanks for the link Pu. I must have missed that one or FORGOT. There’s just so much shit to keep track of, it next to impossible.
Wanna post your feelings on it, Japan is here now. I know many dont like me referrring to HP but I dont frigging care.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/17/radiation-beef-japan_n_901006.html?show_comment_id=97797989#comment_97797989
Majia has a VALID CONCERN BELOW. What to make of these HIGH READINGS. Wow…I think it’s much, MUCH worse than we’re being told.
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I think you’re OK posting on HP Whoopie, the battle is thicker over there and harder to fight.
You’re just the brave one who went up to the frontlines first!
We should send reinforcements.
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Gosh, Whoopie, just read some of the comments on HP – you’re a queen!!
It’s really a war going on there…do you get enough sleep??
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BB = Mornings only. Just posting new info mostly. Right now? I’M OFF TO CALL MY REP’S. Email too. See you soon.
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I am out of words over this one.
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Health Advisory: Move.
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I am really astonished this is being announced.
Levels have to be extremeley high before any health advisory will be given.
If anyone has more links to info on this story please post.
I want to share the latest radnet data from Omaha Nebraska. I am very concerned that their radiation levels are going up, up, up.
That plant must be venting quite a bit.
https://cdxnode64.epa.gov/radnet-public/monitorView.do
Omaha Nebraska 187 beta, gamma range 10 (47) ; range 2 (2540.); range 3 (1,682); range 4 (472); range 5 (286)
187 beta is quite high!
Lincoln Nebraska 64 beta
Kansas City under review
Wichita Kansas under review
Des Moines Iowa under review
Mason City Iowa 63 beta
Pierre, S.D. beta 29
Rapid City SD under review
The jet stream is high again. I do not think Omaha Nebraska’s reading is from the jet stream bringing in Fukushima radiation.
http://www.weatherimages.org/data/imag192.html
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Good question Majia. That is high and as your link shows, NO WAY could that be coming from Japan, at least now right now. Yikes…
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Or it IS FROM JAPAN. Hell I don’t know what to think. Shutting up now.
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The jet stream has been north of Nebraska for days.
If the jet sream was responsible for the high readings day over day in Omaha then we would see, at least typically, very similar readings in Lincoln.
Yet Lincoln, which is on the same general latitude as Omaha and in close proximity, has lower levels ALWAYS
I’ve been tracking radnet levels every day for some time (maybe 2 weeks now).
The levels are going up, although they dip some days.
I think venting of gasses is responsible (probably from the spent fuel pools) but what worries me is that the levels are worsening…
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Looks like Honolulu is under review also…
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They’re being hit worse than some parts of Japan.
They’re directy downwind and have been getting it for 4 months now – a long time for that level of radiation.
It isn’t getting better, they are still in panic-water-pouring mode and have not moved to recovery mode yet, possibly because there is no recovery mode.
Both Japan and Hawaii will have to be evacuated.
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Oh shit. That is bad. I believe you NAILED IT PU. GeezusChrist.
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I wish I could understand the readings for my area…do you, Majia? I noticed Bakersfield was under review, so I tried Fresno but what it’s saying is all Greek to me.
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westcoastgirl, I just looked at the readings for Florida and virtually all are “under review”. I think we have to conclude that it is not malfunctioning equipment in these cases, it is that the EPA is not about to tell us the truth. In my estimation, they are worse than TEPCO. They obfuscate because they do not want you to know. Someone needs to pull the funding away from EPA until they can do their job better.
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Thanks, but I am in Ca, the Bay Area. So are the readings in Florida caused by the Los Alamos or Ft. Calhoun events? Because it’s pretty far from Fukushima. Maybe it doesn’t maka difference.
I did see one city in the NorCal area (can’t remember which one) that said beta 73, which sounds pretty high to me.
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Westcoastgirl
EPA radnet has a very reliable practice of not reporting data in a timely manner on the radnet if radiation levels are high.
I always look at the location of the jet stream when I see a city under review.
If the jet stream is over that city, I presume radiation levels are too high to report.
This has been an accurate guage since I started watching radnet in late March.
There are exceptions however. Sometimes a city will be under review even when the jet stream is not overhead.
I’m sure that at times the data really are under review for technical,not propagandistic, reasons.
However, more generally, “under review” cities result from other nuclear incidents, such as Fort Calhoun and Los Alamos (my opinion)
So, my recommendation is to check the jet stream first.
Second, check radnet.
Third, if a city is under the jet stream and under review, look at enews to see what has happened recently at Fukushima. Comments about steam releases or fires have been very predictive of later high readings.
Fourth, if a city is not under the jet stream and is under review check news reports of other events that could be influencing the city in question…
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It it just me or have we entered the twilight zone. Every new announcement is more bazaar than the previous.
I like what Busby said – these politicians and scientist who back these moving targets for radiation levels – need to be charged with murder.
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Hi Darth,
It does feel like the twilight zone. How many nuclear plants are in trouble now, I’ve lost count.
What baffles me is, that there are still people saying they are safe!!!!
They sure don’t feel safe to me.
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This was posted earlier at HP. You wouldn’t BELIEVE the comments here. Are people really that STOOPID? And this is 9 Mile Island!!
http://www.9wsyr.com/news/local/story/Neighbors-near-Nine-Mile-Nuclear-Plants-grow/1k0J0lenPUehu4FGm0w0oQ.cspx
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Old plant. Same company as japans.
Big storm in canada last night. What if that storm had hit scriba instead????????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ta5bO7HIlRY
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People really are that stupid.
The main stage at Ottawa’s BluesFest collapsed in the wind sending people running for cover.
(They even checked for dead bodies).
The stage cover brings to mind that other one in Japan that is supposed to protect from a typhoon. More like a large sail, designed to trap the wind and carry performers and people into the Land of Oz.
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They thought the low-levels-are-safe mantra [lie] would save them and their industry.
Busby looks to be under duress. He has no choice but to up the ante, especially as disinfo ramps up (which it is, just lately).
The murderers know the effects, and they know how to use the stuff, for targeted, or mass, killings:
Poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Alexander Litvinenko at University College Hospital
Alexander Litvinenko was a former officer of the Russian Federal Security Service, FSB and KGB, who escaped prosecution in Russia and received political asylum in the United Kingdom. He wrote two books, Blowing up Russia: Terror from within and Lubyanka Criminal Group, where he accused the Russian secret services of staging Russian apartment bombings and other terrorism acts to bring Vladimir Putin to power.
On 1 November 2006, Litvinenko suddenly fell ill and was hospitalized. He died three weeks later, becoming the first confirmed victim of lethal polonium-210-induced acute radiation syndrome.[1] According to doctors, “Litvinenko’s murder represents an ominous landmark: the beginning of an era of nuclear terrorism”.[2][3][4]
Litvinenko’s allegations about the misdeeds of the FSB and his public deathbed accusations that Russian president Vladimir Putin were behind his unusual malady resulted in worldwide media coverage.[5]
Subsequent investigations by British authorities into the circumstances of Litvinenko’s death led to serious diplomatic difficulties between the British and Russian governments. Unofficially, British authorities asserted that “we are 100% sure who administered the poison, where and how”, but they did not disclose their evidence in the interest of a future trial. The main suspect in the case, a former officer of the Russian Federal Protective Service (FSO), Andrei Lugovoy, remains in Russia. As a member of the Duma, he now enjoys immunity from prosecution. Before he was elected to the Duma, the British government tried to extradite him without success.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_of_Alexander_Litvinenko
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It looks like the EPA is tired of being asked about Omaha?
“You are here: EPA HomeERROR page
The requested item was not found
on the EPA’s Web Server.
Please return to the previous page and use the comment link there to report this broken link. If you do not see a link above or your browser does not support the above link, use the comments page to describe your problem to the EPA’s Internet Support.
When contacting us, please include the following information:
the Internet address of the missing file (ex. URL: http://www.epa.gov/radiation/rert/radnet-omaha-bg.html) and/or
the Internet address of the file containing the non-working links (ex. http://www.epa.gov/japan2011/images/map/radnet_all.html)”
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They’re all tired out from trying to measure that first fish in the Pacific Ocean.
Must be a wily fish, because they’ve been chasing it for four months now. Unless they already caught it and it was so contaminated it broke the needle on the measuring device.
I bet I could catch it blindfolded with one arm tied behind my back using a cheap line and sinker.
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Quote: redistributed at “measurable” levels
Lets’ spread this glowing substance all over..
No..Lets Not!!!!
Quote: will manifest itself as a health advisory
WHAT??!!??!!
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If this guy with a geiger counter’s for real then British Columbia’s still getting Fuku fallout:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZZVlGrBp2c
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check the jet stream I linked above. BC has been hammered during this disaster….
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Radnet readings , Amarillo, TX
http://www.epa.gov/radnet/radnet-data/radnet-amarillo-bg.html
Their readings are always high and strange looking compared to other major cities. I wonder why?
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what the fuck does this mean?
that plutonium and uranium are airborne and downstream is our alveoli?
what a fucking mess.
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