Official Report: Fukushima affecting radiation levels in U.S. — Recent elevated measurements “a direct result” of 2011 nuclear disaster — “Florida is experiencing Cesium-137 deposition” — “Not unusual” to detect Fukushima fallout in citrus fruit

Published: November 16th, 2015 at 7:12 am ET
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Duke Energy Florida, Inc. (Crystal River Unit 3 – 2014 Annual Radiological Environmental Operating Report to U.S. NRC), May 5, 2015 (emphasis added):

  • In 2011 there were positively measured results of iodine and cesium… These measurements are a direct result of [the] Fukushima nuclear plants… The Japanese event also affected broad leaf vegetation sample media throughout the year as long-lived radionuclides (Cs-137) were released at Fukushima multiple times.
  • The vegetation measurements in 2014 are still affected by the Fukushima event due to the long-lived radionuclides deposited. The vegetation control sample station located in Orlando, Fl. is also experiencing similar Cs-137 deposition on the broad leaf sample media…
  • In 2014, sixteen of twenty four indicator [vegetation] samples had measurable amounts of cesium-137 [up to] 159 pCi/kg… The cesium-137 values are similar in concentration as compared to samples collected in 2013 which experienced radionuclide deposition as a result of the Fukushima earthquake event…
  • In 2013, fifteen of twenty four indicator samples had measurable amounts of cesium-137 [up to] 147 pCi/kg… Orlando, Fl. also had measurable amounts of cesium-137 [up to] 258 pCi/kg. The cesium-137 values are similar in concentration as compared to samples collected in 2012 which experienced radionuclide deposition as a result of the Fukushima earthquake event…
  • In 2012, thirteen of twenty four indicator samples had measurable amounts of cesium-137 [up to] 172 pCi/kg… Orlando, Fl. also had measurable amounts of cesium-137 [up to] 201 pCi/kg. The cesium-137 values are similar in concentration as compared to samples collected in 2011 which experienced radionuclide deposition as a result of the Fukushima earthquake event…
  • In 2014Cs-137 (in grapefruit) at a concentration of 4 pCi/kg. It is not unusual to periodically see Cs-137 in citrus samples due to widespread deposition of Cs-137 from fallout due to past weapons testing and more recent from the Fukushima earthquake and tsunami event…
  • Broad Leaf Vegetation [samples taken during 2014 with] elevated Cs-137 values… are a direct result of the Fukushima earthquake and tsunami event that occurred in 2011.

See also: Fukushima radioactive material still raining down on U.S. in 2013 — Contamination “worked its way into local ecosystems” — Health implications ‘incompletely understood’

And: US hit with worst fallout the year AFTER Fukushima began — Cesium spiked to highest levels ever recorded in history of EPA’s radiation network

Published: November 16th, 2015 at 7:12 am ET
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820 comments to Official Report: Fukushima affecting radiation levels in U.S. — Recent elevated measurements “a direct result” of 2011 nuclear disaster — “Florida is experiencing Cesium-137 deposition” — “Not unusual” to detect Fukushima fallout in citrus fruit

  • TimV

    Seems like a stand off to me.
    Right where the trolls and shills
    want it to be.
    Nothing positive can come from recent
    posts I've been reading.

    Very sad to stop seeing the true problem
    addressed, I said, he said, she said.

    Ofcourse I am not immune to this, I want to at least feel like some of my "crazy thinking " might be helpful.
    Mostly because I abhor the potential epitaph :
    THEY DIDN'T EVEN TRY!

    I guess Dr.G.had me right, "thoughts, feelings, emotions or
    something "
    Thank you Dr.G. , for your statement makes me feel human.
    And I really need to feel human again.
    Anyone posting negatively here needs to get a life.
    Even if the battle is lost,I still want to hold my head up.
    And just to annoy my critics,
    ACTION!!! INTENT!!!

  • stopraddeath1

    Leuren K Moret – Real Job at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
    http://www.archive.org/details/LeurenKMoret-RealJobAtLawrenceLivermoreNationalLaboratory

    Leuren K Moret often asserts that she was a "nuclear scientist" at two DOE National Laboratories. This letter, obtained from the University of California operated Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory under the California Public Records Act shows that Moret was not a "scientist" and worked very briefly at the Laboratory. Moret was a Senior Scientific Technologist . The boss there said she never heard of or saw a lauren moret. Moret might have a ba in geology but she certainly is not a nuclear scientist.

    Moret says all the Fukushima radioactive particles have been pushed out of the atmosphere by Russian HAARP technology. She says you can fix rad damaged chromosomes and dna. She says a lot of bullshit. She is a liar, a spook and a fraud. She is no scientist.

    Scientifically ignorant Dana follows her like a puppy dog. Dana is brave but Leuren Moret is a despicable liar who leads people ignorant of science over the cliff. She is the great divider at the root of this debate. I trust real scientists like Majia, Michael at AA Bobby 1, Arnie Gunderson, Busby, Janet Sherman. I do not trust the fraudulent spook creep lauren moret.

    • DUDe DisasterInterpretationDissorder

      Fair enough..

    • penny penny

      I'm not a huge Moret fan, but I think you should qualify that "follows her like a puppy dog." I spent 5 long years in the chemistry department at LLNL's host university, and I can guarantee you that Dana Durnford reasons more clearly than most of the 'scientists' I knew there. Not saying anyone should worship him or take his word as gospel (because everyone should question everything), but I am saying that anyone who goes out and gathers data systematically, as Dana has done, then reports on it with well-reasoned interpretations, as Dana has done, is doing a far better job as a scientist than most of the 6-figure-earning Ph.D.'s on the planet.

      That said, I would be far more suspicious of anyone who *had* worked at LLNL than otherwise (though if they lie about it, obviously that means they aren't credible). Personally, I am suspicious of Moret, but that doesn't mean that I take *everything* she says as a lie. She does produce some facts, sometimes. Quite often, even.

      But again, everyone should question everything. But don't take my word for it 😉

      • GOM GOM

        Penny
        Dana has been arrested and charged with hate crimes. ENE needs to distance itself from this. Can you hear that? That is the NSA breathing.

        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          The NSA just like everyone here..they are scared out of their minds!

          Cancerous fish.. are not a good sign for planet Earth or any of their jobs and/or futures!

        • penny penny

          But I am not ENEnews. I am Penny Teal, Stirling, UK. I am not going to shut up because I am supposed to be afraid. Anyway, the NSA knows everything about us long before we post it on any website. Why get detained without first having spread a little cheer? 🙂

          But for anyone who is worried, I hereby firmly avow that I am not the mouthpiece for anyone but myself. I take full responsibility for my own words and opinions. And I am not at all suicidal. Unfortunately, can't find the proper JoyCamp link to add here.

        • GOM; stop with the lies.
          Dana was NOT charged with any sort of, "hate crime", and that you proffer such untruths means you should be ignored.
          I get sick of your idiotic statements. Wake up.
          Get out there and do some work, yourself, or stop harassing those who do the work FOR YOU. Cripes, I am tired of this stupidity.

          • Hey Anne Beck … you who completely assaulted me with your brazen, hysterical, and inaccurate accusations – Would You Care To Apologize To Me?

            I await your reply. Certainly, not holding my breath, though.

  • The troll attack on this board is a wonder to behold.

    In the meantime Nucnews has been taken down:

    http://nucnews.com/whatsnew.php
    (do not now open or download anything from this site unless you have very good virus protection).

    And RE Paris, I'll sling in Gearoid O Colmain into the mix, because it's all connected…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxKIeAhi7ws

    How could the world ignore three nuclear reactors in complete meltdown, is exactly the same as how could the world swallow the apparent false flag that occurred in Paris last Friday.

    Welcome to the New World Order.

    I'm sure that on your side of the Atlantic they are foaming at the mouth and calling for further laws to restrict civil liberties, while at the same time spouting on about "the land of the free".

    As Johnny Rotten once famously said (in San Francisco): "Ever get the feeling you've been conned".

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Every day and in every dream.. 🙂

      • Obe, I'm not up to speed with what's happening on your side of the Atlantic, but here in Europe they are now trying to roll-out the police state big time.

        It won't happen.

        If they try to push it through there will be revolution.

        • penny penny

          I do hope you're right about that. Here in my neck of the UK it seems that people are expected to shut up and shop.

          • penny penny

            Led, I might add, by the resident French contingent.

          • Penny, I'm a Londoner born and bred, but have lived overseas for a number of decades now (which includes British Columbia).

            I presently live in rural France, for my sins.

            But enough of all that.

            Tell us more about 'penny'.

            • penny penny

              Well, as you can see, I have very cute whiskers and a look of healthy and furry scepticism. And I am trying to find work as a translator of French so that I won't have to leave bonny Scotland. Michigan born and bred, I have lived in Colorado, California, Alaska, Washington, Connecticut, Idaho, Norway and now Scotland. (Someone today asked me, 'Why so many?' My thought on that is, so many still not on the list!') Have also spent 3 summers living rough (in the mountains) and wish that I had never gone back to quote-unquote civilization. There: everything about me in under the character limit.

              It's encouraging to know that rural France is holding strong against the juggernaut. Your sins must be very mild, unless (against all reason) one cannot find l'ordinaire where you are. 🙂

  • oldster

    stopraddeath1: Your missive presents a most unflattering description of Leuren Moret. I am wondering if you can find anything good to say about her? Any redeeming aspects, any positions she has taken or issues where you would endorse her views?

    The subject on this thread has of late touched on so-called "depleted' uranium weapons. And Leuren Moret has been associated with the attempt to inform people about DU and calls for stopping the use of these weapons. Does that in the least please you? Or is she to be absolutely condemned?

    But then you throw in a gratuitous remark about Dana Durnford, on the day when he makes his court appearance, associating him in a unflattering two-way manner with the main object of your disparaging remarks. "Scientifically ignorant Dana follows her like a puppy dog." This implies that you are far from being scientifically ignorant, yourself, perhaps even that rare human who can boast with credibility of being a scientific shining light to our darkness? You have stated that Dana is ignorant when it comes to science, and furthermore that he merely accepts everything that Leuren Moret asserts; That he doesn't have a mind of his own.

    For someone who doesn't have a mind of his own, and is so scientifically ignorant, Dana sure has been focused and determined and just about as illuminating on Fukushima than anyone I can think of. Imagine what a pack of such puppy dog ignoramuses could achieve!

    • stopraddeath1

      Oldster just because a military intelligence officer or cia or fbi cointelpro operator has a good cover story or good pr does not mean tjey are not a spook. gordon liddy was cia for years. bob woodward of watergate fame was a naval intelligence officer and still is a spook. look how he covered for cheneys fall guy scooter in the valerie plame scandalLeuren K Moret, Gamma Scout Meter, No Depleted Uranium In Hawaiian Air
      http://www.archive.org/details/LeurenKMoretGammaScoutMeterNoDepletedUraniumInHawaiianAir

      Leuren K Moret, Berkeley, California, activist, claimed on KITV that she measured above normal radiation using the Gamma Scout Meter and further claimed that this was proof that Army was actively using depleted uranium on that day in Hawaii. Blaine Howard, an expert in radiation instrumentation, analyzes the Gamma Scout Meter and discusses its ability to measure depleted uranium dust in air. He concludes that the meter is incapable of measuring DU dust in the air and that Moret's performance on KITV was just that a performance, not factual reporting. KITV subsequently requested that YouTube remove the video

      • stopraddeath1

        The Swiss online magazine zeitenschrift.com published the following article in 2005. I'll attempt a translation.

        Quote

        Angeblich soll am 11. September 2001 ein Passagierflugzeug des Typs Boeing 757 ins Pentagon gerast sein.
        This is from a swiss magazine in 2005 about 911. Major Leuren Moret, who once ran the project for uranium coated projectiles in the Pentagon, said: "I am not an explosives expert or a crash expert, but I have excellent knowledge in the field of radioactive contamination and its causes. What happened at the Pentagon is highly suspicious and leads me to believe that there was a missile used with a warhead containing depleted uranium. "
        I don't think Leuren Moret is a very common name, and I think it's much less likely that there are two female radioactivity experts of that name. Unfortunately I couldn't find a source that confirmed she was running a project in the Pentagon, unless they are referring to Livermore National Laboratory, which apparently is federally funded
        How many of you honestly believe that the late Nobel Laureate Dr Glenn T Seaborg, a much beloved professor at the University of California at Berkeley, would actually carry a piece of Plutonium around in his pocket and finger it thus turning his hands into claws. Moret makes that statement near the end of this video. Those of you who do not believe this should then look at all the other claims by Moret, all of which are just as far fetched as that which

        • stopraddeath1

          Leuren K Moret – Real Job at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
          http://www.archive.org/details/LeurenKMoret-RealJobAtLawrenceLivermoreNationalLaboratory

          Leuren K Moret often asserts that she was a "nuclear scientist" at two DOE National Laboratories. This letter, obtained from the University of California operated Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory under the California Public Records Act shows that Moret was not a "scientist" and worked very briefly at the Laboratory. Moret was a Senior Scientific Technologist in the Center for Applied Scientific Computing for less than a year from 1989 to 1990. Moret also claims to have been trained in radiation detection by Manhattan Project Scientist Marion Fulk. Fulk's employment from 1964 to 1984, a normal 20 year career, as a Chemist at the Laboratory is also addressed in this letter. The Manhattan Project ended in 1946 so it is very unusual for a Manhattan Project scientist to wait 18 years to begin a 20 year career at the Lab. Moret never worked with Fulk either since Fulk retired in 1984, five years before Moret began work at the Lab.

          • stopraddeath1

            I am not trying to discredit any antinukes. Majia , Micahel, Bobby1, Helen , Arnie Gunderson , Busby al agree Leuren is a crackpot psuedosensationalist. She has faked association with some but you never actually see her in an interview with a valid antinuclear expert. Dahrmasyd has said repeatedly that glen seaborg and william teller refused to eat vegetables grown in a downwind site yet leuren moret has said that glen seaborg used to carry a piece of plutonium in his picket. How many of you honestly believe that the late Nobel Laureate Dr Glenn T Seaborg, a much beloved professor at the University of California at Berkeley, would actually carry a piece of Plutonium around in his pocket and finger it thus turning his hands into claws. Moret makes that statement near the end of this video. Those of you who do not believe this should then look at all the other claims by Moret, all of which are just as far fetched

      • penny penny

        On the other hand, just because someone is a spook does not mean they won't try to be credible most of the time. Au contraire!
        Just sayin'. A lot of Moret's scientific pronouncements are spot on. As Dane Wigington is fond of saying, you have to sift the baby from the bathwater.

        • My feeling about Moret is that she is "one of them," that she has been gotten to, so to speak.

          So she does have insider information that the general public isn't privy to, but she's also dirty and part of the control structure.

          She's part of the faction of elites/elites' minions that doesn't want massive depopulation of the Earth.

          They are battling the other faction of elites that DOES want massive depopulation.

          The faction that doesn't want massive depopulation releases some of the truth, but only as a means to its own ends. Control of most of the human population is still the goal, even if they allow us to live.

        • stopraddeath1

          Again i repeat myself penny. Read the articles I have presented. Moret has presented forged documents . She has lied She has prayed on layman like you. If you think Majia, helen, michael, arnie, dr sherman, and busby are pronuclear and Leuren Moret is a great scientist huh hhb. Well meh on you too.

          The women is a divider, a fraud, and a spook. Some misled souls on enenews have quoted moret repeatedly as saying fuku radioactive particles over russia have been pushed out of the atmosphere by russias version of haarp and that haarp is what caused the earthquake that caused fukushima aw if nuclear reactors are so stable. As if large earthquakes do not or have never occured in Japan.
          She has led poor brave dana down the primrose path and is responible for much of the division of people on enenews and in some of the antinukes now and in the past.

          • stopraddeath1

            Nuclear madness is not planned it is a criminal conspiracy in that it is nihilistic madness and greed carried out by middle aged men with underdeveloped frontal lobes as helen says. These evil monkeys progeny are dying radioactive deaths and their genomes are permanantly ruined too. There is no conspiracy to depopulate because no one wins. It is all madness as majia, helen, busby, arnie have said. People want to believe that someone might know what they are doing and the human genome is not being destoyed in all people. It is nuclear madness and we are all victims. It is the brutal insancriminally insane murder of all life on this planet like the easter islanders did to themselves and unless people get real to slow it down or stop it there will be no carbon lifeforms left on this planet in the future. It is a lose lose lose proposition the evil power mongers are in denial or gambling like everyone else has and all the bets on the table have turned out to be in the wrong pkace.

          • penny penny

            No, I didn't say she is a great scientist. I don't trust her. But I do think that Dana knows his science. I don't see them as interchangeable. Obviously no one has pushed radiation out with HAARP, and anyone who fantasizes that such an easy fix is possible is out to lunch. As for what caused the earthquake… that isn't relevant to 'what do we do about it?' and as far as I'm concerned, belongs in a different conversation altogether (because it is divisive).

            Please consider that "meh on you too" might be considered an unnecessarily divisive comment.

            • stopraddeath1

              I am sorry penny. I know haarp is real i know that a 911 inside job is real. I know that geoengineering and chemtrails are real but Leuren Moret like most cointelpro agents sucks people in to try and discredit everything with fabulous lies and exaggerations. I am sorry I was knd of rude. I appreciate your consideration greatly.

          • penny penny

            Also, I said nothing whatsoever about the others you mention, stoprad. What was that all about? Obviously, you're not reading my mind, because I happen to quite like what I've seen of Busby (which isn't a whole lot – must admit I find my spare time taken up by learning about the myriad ways in which mankind is destroying the planet I so love). I certainly don't think Helen is pro-nuclear, or even Arnie, though I think they are caught up in the system and far too willing to play by rules that leave them emasculated. But I can't claim to know their true motives or thoughts. All I can do is look at data and compare it to my own observations and background knowledge.

          • Sorry, but you don't know that HAARP wasn't used to trigger the earthquake and meltdowns. There were HAARP wave clouds over Japan around the time of the earthquake.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4FJe5TDO1Q

            We also don't know if it was an underwater bomb that triggered it, another possibility I have seen raised.

            You have to understand the depths of depravity we are dealing with at the top levels of power on this planet. They are capable of anything.

            I think this could very easily have been an intentionally-caused event to trigger World War/global instability.

            • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar PraisingTruth

              There are ionospheric heaters all over the globe. We do know that the Russians took credit with their technology. We also know that the moon was involved and actual tectonic plates and both CERN and JPARC were conducting experiments at the time.

              We also know that the reactors should have never been built and that they should have been decommissioned.

            • penny penny

              WW, hate to say it, but I fear you may be right on all of that. But even if the earthquake hadn't been triggered through human agency, those who built the plants (all of them, everywhere) in the first place would be every bit as culpable, imo, of premeditated omnicide.

    • "The Dalai Lama summaries the situation saying, “We have degenerated into an insane society, unconsciously committing mass suicide by ecocide. Unrestrained corporate capitalism coercively and insidiously exploits vulnerable people and myopically plunders, depletes and corrupts finite planetary resources that sustain life. Billions of people suffer needless poverty, starvation and avoidable disease, while obscenely privileged corporate, political and religious plutocrats greedily acquire power and excessive material wealth far beyond their conceivable needs.”

      • The Dalai Lama is one of them. He makes me vomit. Wayyyyy too into the "celebrity spiritual guru" trip for my liking.

        And who's this "we" he's talking about? It's a relative handful of people at the top levels of power/wealth/influence that are engineering this mess.

        The vast majority of human would choose more wisely if they actually had viable options.

        • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

          Hope you didn't miss the important parts of the article, in your haste to express your discontent with the Dalai Lama…

          "…Consolo says, “If this pool collapses, as Senator Wyden is now saying too, we would face a mass extinction event from the release of radiation in those rods. This may be the most important thing you ever pay attention to for the sake of your family, friends, your neighbors, every one you know and meet, all of humanity.”

          “Preliminary reports of soil contamination are starting to come in from the USGS, who has seemed reluctant to share this information. Los Angeles, California, Portland, Oregon and Boulder, Colorado so far have the highest radioactive particle contamination out of the entire U.S. Iodine, cesium, strontium, plutonium, uranium, and a host of other fission products have been coming directly from Japan to the west coast for thirteen months. Reports in the past week indicate the pollen in southern California is radioactive now too, and it is flying around, and if you live there and go outside, you are breathing it in. And so are your children,” continued Consolo.

          …"

          • Yeah, duh. We were aware of all that years ago. This is gatekeeper information. Way behind the current moment.

            It's not discontent with the Dalai Lama alone…it's discontent with all the phonies and fakes and gatekeepers, many of whom are held up here as "really important experts" on the Fukushima situation.

            Radioactive iodine from Fukushima was found in ALL kelp samples taken off the coast of California in early 2012. Why weren't other, more dangerous, radioactive isotopes found? Oh, because the "scientists" didn't bother testing for anything else!

            Fallout has been found in fish and seaweed off Alaska, in prunes, almonds, produce, and sand off California, in milk and water off British Columbia years ago. YEARS AGO! What you are posting is really nothing of note.

            • If you're posting this because "someone official is saying it," sure. Have at it.

              I don't give a shit about the pseudo-officials, though. They aren't telling the truth because their paycheques and prestige depend on them not telling the truth.

              • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

                Should I check with you before I post a linky link then?

                Would this one pass muster?

                http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp159-c3.pdf

                Radioactive Strontium. Dosimetry data are available for approximately 16,000 members of the Techa River population that was exposed to radiostrontium because of releases from a plutonium processing plant between 1949 and 1956 (Kossenko et al. 1997). Since exposure levels in this population were 30– 100 times higher than the maximum exposure from global fallout, this cohort represents the largest group of subjects available for examining health effects of chronic radiation exposure. Subpopulations living in certain regions within the Techa River area received different levels of exposure, so that dose relationships are being established for health effects. In addition, investigators have been able to examine the effect of developmental age at the time of exposure on health outcomes. Although individuals were exposed to multiple sources of radiation during the first years (including 137Cs bound in soft tissues), in recent decades, their radiation exposure was primarily from 90Sr incorporated into bone. The health effects have been similar to those observed for animals exposed chronically to radiostrontium, and have included suppression of hematopoeisis and leukemia (Akleyev et al. 1995; Kossenko 1996; Kossenko et al. 1997, 2000).

                • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

                  Radioactive Strontium. There is evidence that immunosuppression, resulting from irradiation of bone marrow, may occur in humans and animals following absorption of radioactive strontium. Immunological effects were noted in the Techa River cohort, which received relatively high radiation doses to bone marrow following ingestion of food and water contaminated with radiostrontium (Akleyev et al. 1995). In animal studies, the lowest applied inhalation or oral doses were reported to result in lymphopenia lasting as long as 2 years (Benjamin et al. 1976c; Howard 1970; Jones et al. 1976). There appears to be a need for studies that examine the effect of a lower range of exposures on immune function. Another reason for such studies comes from the reports demonstrating that NK cells may be preferentially eliminated following injection of 89Sr or 90Sr (Emmanuel et al. 1981; Gidlund et al. 1990; Haller and Wigzell 1977; Wiltrout et al. 1989), with the result that the organism’s ability to defend against lymphoid tumors is impaired (Haller and Wigzell 1977; Luevano et al. 1981). The implication is that reduced cellular defenses may compound the effect of genotoxicity, increasing the risk of cancer. However, it is not known whether NK cells are equally vulnerable at lower exposure levels.

                • If you post watered-down, outdated gatekeeper crap, you shouldn't be surprised when someone points it out.

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              Willow, actually there is an ongoing subject of import concerning Unit 4. There were approximately 14,000 Hiroshima bombs of radiation in the SFP. The mainstream and several poster here maintain that the potential global catastrophe was averted. But radiation documentation by Stohl and SFP4 fuel found half way around the world paint a different picture; added catastrophe to the already unthinkable 10,000 Hiroshima bombs from the other three reactors. The common fuel pool is a super catastrophe in waiting, and dove tails with this topic

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    I see the plan for all hands on deck to discredit the anti-nuke community is in full swing.

    When it's over, death in it's path, they will still have their Fukushima et al to contend with. That, and their falling stocks.

    Meh.

    • stopraddeath1

      So you think Majia, helen, michael, arnie, dr sherman, and busby are pronuclear and Leuren Moret is a great scientist huh hhb. Well meh on you too.

      The women is a divider, a fraud, and a spook. Some misled souls on enenews have quoted moret repeatedly as saying fuku radioactive particles over russia have been pushed out of the atmosphere by russias version of haarp and that haarp is what caused the earthquake that caused fukushima aw if nuclear reactors are so stable. As if large earthquakes do not or have never occured in Japan.
      She has led poor brave dana down the primrose path and is responible for much of the division of people on enenews and in some of the antinukes now and in the past.

      • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

        Your message was lost in your negative and repetitive rhetoric.

      • Jebus Jebus

        stopraddeath1,

        There is so much projection in your post, I can't begin…

        I see the agenda too, FWIW.

        It really does make sense to just read a bit…

        A fool is one who see's his own reflection, as how others see him…

        • stopraddeath1

          Mr jebus. I am not here to score points for style. If you have some points you have to make about the points of my posts like that why leuren moret might not be be a spook and has not told tall tales about russians pushing radioactive particles out of the atmosphere using some super dooper haarp technology bring it on! If you can prove leuren has not falisfied her background and committed the multipke exaggerations and lies i have cited bring it on! If you can even prove leuen moret has a PhD or MS as she claims bring it on but critsizing posts for style is very shallow and flimsy.

          • Jebus Jebus

            Projection is not style.

            It's just rude… 🙂

            No one here wants to carry your load…

            • stopraddeath1

              This post was misplaced.Sorry Mr. Jebus. I have no intention of projecting or being rude. I have followed enenews from the beginning. I am not part of the good ol boy network here yet I respct the consideration and thoughtfulness of many seasoned, thoughtful, and very informed posters. I appreciate most anyone who has the guts to get on enenews really.
              The timbre of the coversations here recently has been controversial and shrill as of late. I feel that Conversations about Leuren Morets unfounded and straight up confabulated assertions at enenews have always been a great divider and spawned heated confrontations between scientically experienced posters and other thoughtful, but what I feel are mislead posters in the case of what moret has said about fukushima for years. I merely want to point out some facts that I feel should have brought to the table long ago.

              • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

                "Merely want to point out some facts.."

                Epic fail.

              • Jebus Jebus

                I have been here too long and labels about who, dis, or dat, serve no purpose other than to those who try to stick them.

                ENENews is not the center of the universe, last I checked.

                The drama about who said what is irrelevent.

                The ones in meatspace, doing symposiums, having meetings, producing video's, turning to one's fellow man/woman, speaking of and investigating the truth, whatever that may be, deserve my thanks. Admin included.

                The facts remain the same no matter what the word.

                The collective actions of many, have planted seeds of truth. There are many more just spreading awareness, on blogs like this. That matters.

                Even the one's telling lies, so that others may see the truth, are valuable.

                Knowledge is power is free.

                We only go forward in time…

                • stopraddeath1

                  Alrighty then mr jebus and mr h dog you go right out there and do some meatspace, some symposiums, some meetings, produce some video's, do some public speaking and go out on the street asking peopke what they think about fuku as you have threatened to do. You have no idea what I have done. I have already said dana is a vrave soul. Glen seaborg and others did all the things you have said lectures , videos meeting etc. All that was considered for the public good. I have presented my case about Leuen Moret and all you can come up with are straw dog arguements and ad hominim attacks.

      • GOM GOM

        Stop1
        I am curious how Haarp caused the Japan fiasco. Care to explain?

        • HAARP uses waves of energy that bounce up into the ionosphere and can then be directed back down into the Earth, triggering earthquakes. This video explains it:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHu1P3fqYpo

          It is certainly not outside the realm of possibility that it was triggered with HAARP or some other type of energy technology. I personally believe Fukushima was intentionally set off and that it is intentionally being allowed to continue.

          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            There were HAARP signatures over Japan. The thing is, if you look at the power and the energy, its very little, relatively. Its the equivalent of blowing puffs at a car parked next to a cliff, hoping to initiate enough rocking to get it to degrade the ground and slide over the cliff; not a very reliable way to kill off the population in a grand scheme. The phased underwater nukes makes more sense.

            • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

              Orrrr…

              A large eathquake of natural origin shook the very foundation of the nuclear facility. Which was then stricken by a tsunami and further damaged and destroyed.

              That the ancestors engraved a rather large stone above the tsunami level and erected it just above the plant lends one to believe that the risk was inherant prior to any man-made inventions that might also cause such disasters. Also, it is well-known that TEPCO officials were warned of the vulnerability prior to the disaster and they chose to ignore it to save money.

              Could it be that it was not intentional and could have been avoided?
              Could it be that the accident was due to neglect and not wishful thinking?

              OT: Glad to see you, Code.

  • stopraddeath1

    you are wrong hhb. It was not lost. You have used strobg rhetoric to get your point across many times. You have not countered anything I have said. You have just made a flimsy statement that just because clammershellnh joyb majia arnie and i have said their is leuren moret is a disinformation source that we are out to discredit what you see as an antinuke hero . then you make another flimsy staement that i discredit myself by presenting facts without any evidence.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Nuclear power sucks the life out of the planet, and must go away…

    Readers React Why nuclear power is off the table in the fight against climate change

    http://www.latimes.com/opinion/readersreact/la-le-1117-tuesday-cliamte-change-nuclear-20151117-story.html

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Rifkin knows! 🙂

      Piss poor investment and a loss at all ends of the spectrum while screwing the entire planet! 🙁
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwIvGJJ_dtU

      Thanks Nuclear! 🙁

      • Jebus Jebus

        So does Germany…

        German day-ahead power prices drop 36% as 30 GW wind turns hours negative

        German day-ahead power prices plunged Tuesday as wind power was forecast near record levels above 30 GW with the first five hours settling below zero on the spot exchange.

        Baseload power for day-ahead delivery was last heard OTC Eur10.60 lower at Eur22.90/MWh, while peakload fell Eur7.25 to Eur32.15/MWh.

        Epex Spot settled Wednesday below OTC at Eur20.44/MWh baseload and Eur31.60/MWh peakload, a day-on-day drop of 36% on the exchange.

        Wind power output was forecast to rise sharply from around 18 GW for Tuesday's average baseload hours to above 30 GW Wednesday, with peaks forecast between 32 GW and 35 GW, which would be a new all-time high, according to sources.

        http://www.platts.com/latest-news/electric-power/london/german-day-ahead-power-prices-drop-36-as-30-gw-26279654

        If that breeze isn't enough…

        Cheap Gas Is Killing Nuclear Power, and the Outlook is Grim

        Death Knell?

        What’s remarkable about this trend is how it’s come about not from government pressure or mandates as in Germany or Japan—where nuclear is also in retreat—but from pure market pressures. In mid-2013, I wrote a post asking, “Is Cheap Gas Killing Nuclear Power?” Two years later, I’m prepared to answer that question in the affirmative.

        http://www.powermag.com/cheap-gas-is-killing-nuclear-power-and-the-outlook-is-grim/

        The market can take the money away, and that is the way…

    • stopraddeath1

      Sorry Mr. Jebus. I have no intention of projecting or being rude. I have followed enenews from the beginning. I am not part of the good ol boy network here yet I respct the consideration and thoughtfulness of many seasoned, thoughtful, and very informed posters. I appreciate most anyone who has the guts to get on enenews really.
      The timbre of the coversations here recently has been controversial and shrill as of late. I feel that Conversations about Leuren Morets unfounded and straight up confabulated assertions at enenews have always been a great divider and spawned heated confrontations between scientically experienced posters and other thoughtful, but what I feel are mislead posters in the case of what moret has said about fukushima for years. I merely want to point out some facts that I feel should have brought to the table long ago.

      • It is probably not a good time to bring Moret to the table right now, because when drawing together Dana with Moret, as you do, both are cast in the same coffin that you draw such a dark picture of..

        Of course, no one can dispute what you claim except for Dana or Moret, because you are the only one with this inside knowledge and you provide absolutely no proof, just accusations.

        Are you sure that you showed up here right after Dana was arrested, just to 'enlighten' all of us here about this alleged 'partnership' between Moret and Dana?

        Could this be some kind of divide and conquer strategy?

        Others have linked to Dana to other alleged criminal elements, such as Kevin Blanch, an artist and other 'shadowy' figures.

        Now you show up and do the same thing that others came in here with, but aiming at a different person.. Hmmm, very curious.

        Is that part of the plan? Is the plan to throw a large group of antinuclear activists under the bus at the same time?

        This fear campaign could take off and engulf all anti nuclear activists, because we are all in the same 'group' after all. It would be so easy to get the mass media to run with this..

        Even ENENEWs is suspect because Moret hung out here for awhile, so if she is bad, then this place is also at risk..

        This passionate diatribe against Moret and Dana at the same time just does not smell right.

        If you had come in here two years ago, no problem; let's debate.

        • Jebus Jebus

          Yes, it's stickey label time. Blatantly obvious.

          They peel right off. Faulty glue logic…

        • stopraddeath1

          You did not read my posts or links about Moret here mr. doc. You are just spouting off. Morets background is in question from my links. I will bring more in. I like your website and commentaries though your website is crowded and I do not feel that you use proper references at times.
          have been attacked many times in other forums by moret cultists. she is a spook who has a cult of personality. You are the only one answering my posts who has not expressed distaste for her yet i think you might agree she practices confabulist sensationalism. Fuku coverup is a criminal conspiracy. Making confabulist lies about it throws people way off from it. And people wonder why some illinformed souls say the meltdowns and explosions at fukushima with subsequent constant release of radioctive waste is a far out conspiracy theory.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Concerns over anchovy numbers prompt plan for new stock assessment
    Nov 17 2015

    http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/business/20151116/concerns-over-anchovy-numbers-prompt-plan-for-new-stock-assessment

    "SANTA CRUZ >> Amid concerns that the anchovy population along the West Coast might have “collapsed” due to environmental factors, regulators committed Monday to update a 20-year-old stock assessment for the fish, but not to enact stricter harvest rules as some groups had hoped."

    Prompt plan for new stock assessment.
    What ..they think if they spit in the hands ..they'll show back up?
    Then ..FISH ON.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    "Climate change advocates are optimistic that last Friday's terror attacks in Paris have improved the chances of an international climate deal being agreed upon at the upcoming United Nations talks being held in the French capital in less than two weeks.

    Andrew Steer, president of the World Resources Institute, said on a call with reporters on Wednesday that while there is no way to know for certain what the impact of the attacks will be on the Paris conference, the current spirit of global solidarity bodes well for cooperation.
    “There is a degree of, sort of, solidarity internationally over [the attacks] that is not exactly unprecedented, but since 9/11, we haven’t seen anything quite like that,” Steer said. “It is really quite astonishing. It is absolutely amazing — the desire to do something in common … If anything, it stiffens the spine in terms of determination to really” reach a long-term climate change deal."

    How The Paris Attacks Make A Global Climate Deal More Likely

    The much-awaited 2015 United Nations Conference on Climate Change will continue as planned in Paris. Only now, there are higher hopes

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/paris-attacks-global-climate-change-talks_564cbf02e4b08c74b733b43c

    Has fear driven the herd into corner of the corral yet?
    And are they ready and willing to strive for the 'common good'?

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    ""Climate change advocates are optimistic that last Friday's terror attacks in Paris have improved the chances of an international climate deal being agreed upon at the upcoming United Nations talks being held in the French capital in less than two weeks. …"

    Is THAT what the attacks were intended for? Never miss an opportunity to defraud the public and profit from loss. Geesh

  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    …that anyone would state optimism or benefit from it …indecent.

    • penny penny

      I think there was a lot more to it than that. First and foremost was the Boston-style lockdown of Paris. A curfew in Paris, first time since WWII – the mind boggles! Also, the Syria adventure. But I am just opining, or perhaps trying to do some math (2+2=Syria?)

      Also, there was this little nuclear problem in the west Pacific that they needed to distract attention from, rumour has it. 🙂

      My, it's late here. Happy dialectics, all, I'm going to crash.

  • stopraddeath1

    I am not mad at you hhb. I just am trying to say what I think about Leren Moret and I know I am not the only one who feels that way. I like many of your ppists. Leuen Moret has stated that Fukushima radioactive particles can and have been pushed out of the terestail atmosphere using some unexplained russian HAARP tecnology among many other fabulous things. I know HAARP technology is real yet she seeks to discredit it with wild phantasmagorias. I am pretty sure 911 was is an inside criminal conspiracy and that her and albaby webre have weighted in on that with out right lies and distortions. I know that geoengineer is real. I know tha fukushima is a horrendous ongoing crisis and little has been done to mitigate it. I am sorry to have been rude.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Morning everyone ..hi, and be back in a bit.
    I lost the conversation on stress ..(how stressful..lol).
    What say some is appropriate response ..and how it is dealt with is the key.

    So like ..I got in a car accident on Labor Day.
    The other parties insurance company paid out yesterday.
    I'll let you guys do the math as to the time.

    Had to buy some sort of a 'thing with tires' out of pocket.
    The rest of the math..

    BBL

  • tarpitboss tarpitboss

    Any updates on the likelihood of corium meeting up with lava? What is down there under fuku NPP?

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