Local TV: Concern over potential for additional collapse around Louisiana sinkhole — “More than 50 caverns underground” (VIDEO)

Published: August 15th, 2012 at 1:39 am ET
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Title: Questions float around swamp sinkhole
Source: WWL-TV
Author: Katie Moore
Date: August 14, 2012 at 11:29p ET

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By August 3, the swamp started to swallow itself.

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Residents nearby were placed under a mandatory evacuation order not just because of the potential for additional collapse, but because of the more than fifty caverns underground.

One near the sinkhole site is being used as a butane storage cavern, a flammable, potentially explosive gas.

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Published: August 15th, 2012 at 1:39 am ET
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15 comments to Local TV: Concern over potential for additional collapse around Louisiana sinkhole — “More than 50 caverns underground” (VIDEO)

  • milk and cheese milk and cheese

    If one of the drilling machines throws a spark or hits a high pressure area during the creation of the 'relief hole', it's goodbye to New Orleans. The butane in the nearby 'storage site' apparently packs the same kilotonnage as 10 Hiroshima bombs.
    Are such companies required to store flammable and explosive items in dangerous places? How stupid are they?


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  • markww markww

    lets look at the worst case .This will scare the pants off you.
    Worst case as to the well in Bayou Corne DISASTER BIGGER THAN WHAT THEY THINK1.Feel fracking has damaged the underground American Plate eating it up to get gas and oil.2.Bubbles could be all along the Mississippi delta from The great lakes to off shore into the Gulf where BP cracked a salt Dome and started a avalanche of destruction.3. On one of the USGS forums a man claimed to know what was causing the booms and then went into great detail on what to look for.
    His post, and the entire thread have long since been purged.
    However, what he said stuck with me and from that point on I was waiting for the signs.He claimed that the booms were the result of Super Fracking that had exposed a large underground cavern that sat against an exposed section of a subsection of the Madrid fault. That when this happened they knew they'd messed up big time. From then on the US Gov has been undergoing a 24/7 operation of keeping the cavern pressurized with fluid, to prevent the methane from traveling through the fault and destabilizing it.He claimed that, if methane bubbles started appearing in the gulf, it would be a sign that the US efforts had failed and that the methane was now free flowing.He said if we started to see methane bubbles and sinkholes around the gulf coast, it would signal a window of weeks before a cascade failure occurs.Fire from Butane cause 10 mile destruction. Methane plate could have melted causing…


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  • Sickputer

    Markww: Hollywood writers now reading your posting for a new 2012 disaster movie. Hope it doesn't happen, but nothing surprises me anymore. The greed of just a few naked apes knows no restraints in raping mother earth. The earth is a tough nut to crack but those monkeys seem determined to split it asunder in their pursuit of wealth.


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  • jackassrig

    I was watching Macondo close and there was always that rumor that BP had wreaked the formation. The rumor was DOE had authorized a small nuc to fract the formation and it had backfired.


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  • jackassrig

    Matt Simmons had been talking for months BP should use a small nuc to close the well and seal the formation. If memory serves me, he claimed the formation was destoryed and by using a nuc it would cauterize the formation and seal the leaks. Macondo I beleive was about 4000 psi. The fact he was talking about using a nuc gave be the impression it had been used before. Why would he talk about using a nuc so easily. I believe the Gulf is mostly sand and salt. So it is easily damaged.


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  • enoughalready45 enoughalready45

    Excerpts from the article by Karen Savage, in Facing South by the Institute for Southern Studies. Read full article here:
    http://www.southernstudies.org/2012/08/mysterious-environmental-disaster-unfolding-in-louisiana-bayou-community.html

    History
    Residents also expressed concern that residual gas and diesel from a leak that forced families to evacuate on Christmas Day 2003 could be seeping out. Some reports indicate large quantities lost during that leak are still unaccounted for.
    Residents were out of their homes for two months and, before they could return, say they were required to have gas vents installed and insulation blown into their homes as an added precaution against possible ignition of that gas.

    Similar Incident
    Dr. Wilma Subra worked extensively on the Lake Peigneur incident and suspects drilling too close to the edge of the salt may have compromised the cavern in Bayou Corne. Subra, an award-winning scientist, has worked on the Lake Peigneur incident for several decades. Yet she was excluded from meetings of scientists on Monday and worries for the safety of the surrounding community.

    Current Concerns
    So does Brandy Castagnos of Belle Rose, who has relatives in high school and is worried about school starting. Students in Pierre Port will have to travel through the evacuation zone to get to school in Napoleonville. "It's a mandatory evacuation … but it's OK for the students and everybody to pass?"


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    A bent natural gasline next to a butane storage area..next to a perforated salt dome.
    Cripe..


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  • markww markww

    One other problem is the earthquakes 6 and larger that shifts the planet from Christmas over in the pacific that killed 250,000 to japan and the one a day back 7.7 off the coast of Russia. These earthquakes also causing the American plate to move and release. I gave the GOV of Louisiana a letter with info as to sending out scientists and others to check the plate under the Madrid fault and do x rays lets see what and how bad, of the Under ground methane is bubbling up freeze it with liquid Nitrogen and try to stabilize the weak areas. Also go to the gulf and check for leaks to the Great lakes. What id did not get a chance to put above cause it was too long is that if the methane cracks the Mississippi could be 100 miles wide. or the possibility of many more collapses of the salt domes. Just have to see what they find then try to work on a answer but the BUTANE dome could do like in Russia and burn for years and the blast would destroy everything within 10 mile radius. In fact years ago in Brenham 68 miles from me a liquid gas well blew and cracked windows and shook my house


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  • dodge

    Not so concerned about the explosion devastating a large area, as the long term consequences of leaks, long burns, and additional expanding sink holes. Bombs are more than fuel, they are highly engineered designs to contain the energy are release it all at once. Gas in a small bottle with a fuse tossed is an effective homemade bomb. The same quart of gasoline burned with fuse in an open pail burns quickly and extinguishes quickly usually causing no damage unless the fire spreads. The vast amount of available fuel, the difficulty of fighting this process, and the time of burn could become an ecological hazard of significance far beyond the local area, with long lasting impact.


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  • ML

    Louisiana and Mississippi are NRC Agreement states, per Dennis K Rathbun, former Nuclear Regulatory Commission Director. The following is from an Enformable article entitled: March 16th, 2011 – Merrill Lynch VP asks former USNRC director “What do you make of the Japanese reactor situation?”
    "Rathbun further shared some juicy first-hand details about preparing for and coping with Hurricane Katrina stating, 'Not like Katrina when NRC mangers were demanding to know where those underwater nuclear materials all were. [Was he referring to the salt mine that is now a sink hole?]

    Those guys had some advance notice and time for the Gulf reactors to shut down and get ready. But for the many nuclear materials people demanded to know where all the nuclear materials stuff was.

    Well, La and Miss are NRC Agreement states. Thus we have a hold over them. Literally and legally. Well the state program directors in Jackson and La do not much appreciate pressuring calls from Washington when there offices are underwater, no lights, no phones etc etc. Like get out of my face till I can breathe again. And they speak English.'"

    Can we know more about the literal and legal hold the NRC has over Louisiana and Mississippi?


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    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      " 'Not like Katrina when NRC mangers were demanding to know where those underwater nuclear materials all were."

      Either they've been dumping nuclear hazardous waste in the offshore salt domes (which they most probably have) or there's bulk nuclear waste dumping offshore, that is susceptible to the 'motion of the ocean'. I think the latter, and someone needs to find out what's down there.

      I know the Farallon Islands off the Golden Gate Bridge were a favorite dumping ground for barrels of nuclear waste:

      http://socket.kongshem.com/2007/10/farallon-islands-nuclear-waste-dump.html

      Almost 48,000 drums worth. Officially.


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  • milk and cheese milk and cheese

    That is obscene.
    Is there no place on Earth that is not contaminated by this stuff?
    I will never forget walking around a charming Bahamian resort island and finding a cordoned-off section with the nuclear hazard symbol, not far from where people were playing on the beach. I got out of there fast, but figure I must have been glowing in the dark for some time now.


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