Officials: Giant Louisiana sinkhole “likely to be permanent” — Thousands of years to fill in?

Published: April 17th, 2013 at 10:39 am ET
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Title: Berm expected to contain sinkhole brine, oil
Source: The Advocate
Date: April 17, 2013

[…] the containment system [is] the primary means of keeping the oil and briney water feeding into the sinkhole from below from infiltrating surrounding cypress forests and scenic bayous. […]

[It’s has a] designed lifespan of at least 20 years, Texas Brine officials said in their written statement.

Office of Conservation officials said in a written response to questions that the sinkhole is likely to widen and become more shallow over time even after periodic tremors end but said the hole itself isn’t likely to go anywhere. […]

Conservation said they remain in emergency response mode and have set “no end point” for the berm. […]

Conservation officials said that over the very long term — they were asked about a span over hundreds to thousands of years — the sinkhole is likely to fill in or become indistinguishable from the land around it […]

Officials: “The sinkhole itself is likely to be a permanent feature even after the subsurface has fully stabilized”

Watch yesterday’s flyover footage here

Published: April 17th, 2013 at 10:39 am ET
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28 comments to Officials: Giant Louisiana sinkhole “likely to be permanent” — Thousands of years to fill in?

  • Lion76 Lion76

    "the sinkhole is likely to fill in or become indistinguishable from the land around it"

    yeah, fill in with oil and more trees/dirt from land around it. It's doing this already. These idiots say they don't know what's goin on, now they know their "dirt berm" is gonna last 20 years and "contain" all the contaminants?? BULLSHIT.

  • Sol Man

    A gift that humanity must endure from the "partnership."

  • ftlt

    HAHAHAHAHAHA Land forms just go away… Don't worry …

    I take it, there are going to be a whole lot of hummingbirds at work sharpening their beaks there over the next 20 years…

  • yellowrain

    Trust me won't be there forever. These idiots are dumb enough frack right next to the dome. Just like when they made a cavern right on the edge. Greed doesn't know when enough is enough. Were they fracking next to NPP Anna when we had the east coast earthquake? yup. I could be wrong
    there's probably no shale near the dome but you get the point. To ENE News thanks for the site I check it often.

  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

    it looks like the salt dome system is a very complex interconnected, huge feature that stretches below the sea bed. Its huge. Putting fluids deep in the ground where they werent before adds huge forces possibly of 1000s of pounds per square inch. What is that but fracking? This makes me wonder about the strategic oil reserves in addition to the many man made caverns filled with oil or toxic waste. there is no doubt the changes will last for thousands of years because the scale of the situation is completely outside human intervention. We can cause big problems but we cant always fix em. Man is so out of touch with nature, even though himself nature. Thats the strange thing

  • yellowrain

    re: codeshutdown

    we have similar thoughts. The outside forces pushing in from the side are being removed with this failure. that said the inside forces pushing out from within the many man made caverns are still there. When the side deteriorates enough the center or the point of equilibrium will crack wide open releasing what could be our NG reserves.Ka Boom no more sink hole just big hole. Is there a reason why I should think the side of the sink hole is not washing away the salt on the side of the dome little by little? I think as impossible as it may be the side needs to be reinforced or filled to displace the water to stop the dissolving of the dome. But thats to much money so we will wait till it cant be done or it proves to be to late.

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      strategic oil reserves. In 62 huge salt caverns, they hollow out 200ft wide 2000 feet tall spaces and fill with oil (twice as tall as empire state building). Extreme pressure is hoped to eliminate cracks (??). Might seem like a good idea to them, but what about all the unforeseen consequences? What then? Oil in salt at 2000 psi, with rivers above and ocean beside, drilling and fracking going on. Child of 10 would be dumbfounded at possible eco disaster.

      http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/energy/strategic-petroleum-reserve1.htm

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    " the sinkhole is likely to fill in or become indistinguishable from the land around it"

    What they should have said is theat the lans is going to become indistinquishable from the sink hole.

    What impetus does the sinkhole have to fill in.
    The area was disturbed in the 'disturbed area..to considerable depth.
    Add oil… add pressure.
    Add pressure.
    The thousands of years..make that millions..let's just throw in forever.
    There is already gas coming up at a distance from the sinkhole.
    And if you ask me..in looking at the latest fly-over…the water looks the same both in and outside of the berm.

    So..how about them paying the people..that they might move from..a this man made hell pit.

    • WindorSolarPlease

      Hi Heart of the Rose

      Quote: So..how about them paying the people..that they might move from..a this man made hell pit.

      That's a great question..I would like to know that also.
      Will they ever see a total fair pay out to everyone there?
      Did all the people in the Gulf ever see it, from BP?

  • WindorSolarPlease

    This is another manmade disaster, that they don't know how to fix.
    How many more of these disasters, will there be?

  • WindorSolarPlease

    Let's see now, we have new regulations on how much radiation can be in our food, water, and higher levels that are acceptable to breath in. (jerks)
    We know why that had to be changed, because everyday more is delivered through the jet stream.

    Next regulation will probably be: Even though Corporations are people, they are no longer a responsible party for any damages.
    However, they will have to say they are sorry.
    While they are in a safe place, rolling in their big bucks that they made while destroying lives, and destroying the environment some more.

    Come on people get on board, Save Those Corporations. Forget the People and the Environment. (sarc)

    • WindorSolarPlease

      Correction:
      We know why that had to be changed, because everyday more is delivered through the jet stream.
      Also, the leaking spewing Nuclear Plants are older, and then there is the waste.

      Quote: Giant Louisiana sinkhole “likely to be permanent”
      I would bet yes on that one.

      Quote: Thousands of years to fill in
      Fill it with what?

      • We Not They Finally

        Any moron can see that we don't HAVE "thousands of years." And like Arnie Gundersen said of Fukushima, even if they did everything they still might do, with most options no longer possible, it will have to be looked after for "three hundred years." Well, we don't have three hundred years either. And like people's great-grandchildren WANT to be saddled with this? I think he was probably talking in metaphors. When there is nothing left to say, people still have to say something.

        • WindorSolarPlease

          Hi We Not They Finally

          You are probably correct that we don't have "thousands of years."
          I don't know how many years or even the hours we have?

          My family and I already feel the start of the repercussions of the Fukushima Disaster, and I don't think we are alone.

          I know I push that scenario out of my mind and just try to live without fear of what evil has caused. There's no room for evil in my life, so I put my protective shield on.
          We all deal with things differently.

          I admit, I act like we have "thousands of years" on this earth, yet remembering that everyday is a gift, and I embrace it happily and thankfully.

        • tomarsandbeyond tomarsandbeyond

          Stephen Hawking recently said humanity needs to colonize space in the next thousand years or might not survive. Smartest person in the world seems to agree, we don't have thousands of years.

  • timemachine2020 timemachine2020

    Sinkhole makes national media momentarily. Blaming it on earthquakes.

    http://news.yahoo.com/quite-jolt-earthquakes-heralded-opening-sinkhole-200246486.html

    • WindorSolarPlease

      Hi timemachine2020

      Act of Nature. Oh brother nice try…Hope they don't get away with this excuse.. Thanks timemachine2020

  • Lion76 Lion76

    people in louisiana didn't get any bp money, politicians and corporate thieves got plenty. The rest of us just had our health risks raised at our own expense.

    • We Not They Finally

      No one was even told the full extent of what HAPPENED. Matt Simmons (former energy advisor to Bush Sr.) TRIED to tell the world that BP had drilled A HOLE IN THE SEABED, and that oil would gush forever, but he was found dead in his hot tub ten days later…. (summer of 2010)

    • WindorSolarPlease

      Exactly Lion76. I will be surprised if all these people will see what is fair.

      We Not They Finally, I wonder how many human-made drilled holes are in the seabed? I also question Matt Simmons death.

  • dana dana

    8:30 a.m. Burp & Slough-In, 04/18/2013
    by assumptionla
    There was a “burp” within the sinkhole this morning as well as a slough in on the east side (of which measurements are not yet available). Water in the sinkhole continues to move which is an indication that this event is not over.

    The installation of the seismic equipment and implementation of the code system are essential in indicating that events like this will happen before they actually do. Over the last three days, the seismic equipment used in the monitoring process showed signs that prompted officials to heighten the code level in the sinkhole to Code 3 (explanation below). Dr. Horton and Dr. Hecox, both diligently observing the monitoring process, were able to raise the code level in prediction of such an event as this.

    Code 1: Minimal to no seismic activity around/below sinkhole; 10 or fewer of the sharp seismic signals associated with rock movement, called mini-earthquakes (MEQs) or the longer signals associated with gas or liquid movement, called Very Long Periods (VLPs) within 24-hour period; allows work on sinkhole and inside berm area to continue

    Code 2: Restricts work directly on the sinkhole, indicates some increased seismic activity around/below sinkhole but not at a level that indicates imminent threat of sloughing or movement below sinkhole (10 to 50 MEQs or VLPs in 24 hours)

    Code 3: Restricts all work inside the containment berm, indicates seismic activity has elevated to a point similar…

    • We Not They Finally

      I guess that "burp" is to oil as "leak" is to radioactivity? Nothing to worry about here, folks, just move on….

  • Usefulbreather

    If this is true, now would seem like a very good time to decommission the Waterford III Nuclear Power Plant in adjacent St. Charles Parish. If a catastrophic collapse were to create a major seismic event, we have a fully on-line Nuclear Power plant just a stone's throw geologically from the disaster zone. Why not plan for the worst and hope for the best instead of the other way around???

    • WindorSolarPlease

      That would make too much sense Usefulbreather.
      Anyway, profit outweighs common sense (sarc).