Officials: High levels of gas in water wells by sinkhole — Potential health risk, fire/explosion — Immediate remediation needed — “Heed evacuation orders”

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Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals, October 3, 2012:

Assumption Parish Operational Situation Summary, October 5, 2012:

h/t Anonymous tip

Published: October 5th, 2012 at 11:48 pm ET
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69 comments to Officials: High levels of gas in water wells by sinkhole — Potential health risk, fire/explosion — Immediate remediation needed — “Heed evacuation orders”

  • razzz razzz

    Gee, never saw that one coming. Waiting for the statement where the methane is radioactive.

    After the people get out, I would empty and abandon any pipelines in a 20 mile radius of ground zero…just for starters to play it safe.


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      • anne anne

        eyechix, Loret Moret has never connected Stuxnet to the Fukushima earthquake or meltdown. Have you been paid by the nuclear industry to spread this rumor. Surely, Jim Stone is part of the controlled opposition. Have they persuaded you to join them?


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        • razzz razzz

          Fukushima 1-4 are old technology. (not even legacy but analog). All instrumentation is hard wired dial indicators with manual controls. They didn't have the computer technology to infect with a virus. Closest thing to a computer readings were printout readings from instruments transferred to folded pin-fed printer sheets.

          Escaping technicians were handwriting down important dial instrument readings on paper before fleeing the buildings.


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        • omniversling

          I think eyechix may have been thinking of Dr Helen Caldicott, who I believe has mentioned Stuxnet in relation to Fuku. Some links below:

          Red Ice Radio – Helen Caldicott – Fukushima & Nuclear Energy
          http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2012/07/RIR-120703.php

          Arnie Gundersen & Helen Caldicott FUKUSHIMA 1/4
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBQT07IkKo014


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        • Yes, she has. And its "Leuren Moret". See any of her Fukushima interviews she has done with Alfred Weber on Exopolitics about Fukushima, or listen to when she was on my show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osQxLgb7h3s


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          • anne anne

            I did find the following article. I don't believe that 9/11 was a false flag event. Nor do I think that 3/11 was either. What was a 3/11 false flag event supposed to accomplish? The motivations I've read about (if they were true) would make it a real event, not a false flag event. These supposed false flag events only make sense if a government foreign to the US is making these accusations to stir up Americans against their own country and government.

            There is lots to change in the US, and lots of mistakes made. But attacks against the US and their allies are not false flag events.

            Leuren Moret warned against the Fukushima disaster years before it happened, because of the placement of this nuclear power plant on an unsuitable porous sandstone rock in a country subject to many large earthquakes and tsunamis in the past, and the safety problems there. When the Japanese built and then renewed the license of this aging nuclear power plant, they bear the full responsibility of the accident, along with the IAEA and the entire nuclear industry.

            Ms Moret only worked a short time at Lawrence Livermore Labs, and that was years ago.

            http://www.examiner.com/article/scientist-japan-earthquake-nuke-accident-are-tectonic-nuclear-warfare


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            • many moons

              9/11 was urban renewal..


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            • VicFromOregon VicFromOregon

              Anne, in another enenews article today it is being offered as a given that the Fukushima NPP facility is built upon bedrock, which i find odd, given all the earlier information closer to the original earthquake. It is my understand that the area is porous strata and infill, along the lines of what Moret says. But, now geologists, at least the ones getting press time, are saying the ground is solid bedrock. Any ideas about this shift in thinking? Better info? Disinfo? I think that even Gundersen thought the ground was porous based upon geology reports he had read from the orignal siting of the NPP, which was why he was so concerned about groundwater contamination and the need to dig under the site and start filling in with boron to try and neutralize at least some of the radiation that would surely reach the groundwater through the various cracks and soft rock formation. These are completely incompatible "facts". And, quite interesting how they have changed so dramatically. I think that the only bedrock was the natural sea wall they removed, and, if i remember correctly, a small portion of island bedrock beneath just a portion of the facility.


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            • vivvi

              Ya know, I have difficulty taking seriously anybody who thinks the official story of 9/11 is the truth. Anybody so willingly blind as to believe such bullshit might be missing a few cogs in their clockwork. Who benefited from 9/11. There are your culprits.


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              • many moons

                Exactly…ask yourself how 2 jets could powderize 3 buildings….it just doesn't add up. Fires don't powderize, explosions do.
                Why didn't they do this urban renewal at night?

                I think it was because they wanted everyone to see just how powerful they are…."we can pee on your foot and tell you it's raining and there's nothing you can do about it"


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              • anne anne

                No one in the US benefited from 9/11. Only al-Qaida benefited. Groups or individuals against the US are still trying to undermine the US by spreading the fantasies of 'urban renewal.' What a disgusting way to describe this terrorist attack. They are the ones still trying to benefit from 9/11. Al-Qaida struck a blow to the economy of the US and of the world, which everyone is still suffering from.


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                • many moons

                  I guess those al-qaida are more organized and powerful than all the countries that have been fighting them in the last 10 years.

                  My my with all of the resources the US has trown at this, trillions of dollars and thousands of soldiers and those al-qaida are still on top of their game!Who would have thought poorly educated, and struggling forces could accomplish all that they have.

                  Wow!!! Hard to believe they have been able to still present an armed organized front with all of our efforts…


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                • many moons

                  Anne urban renewal was a result of 9/11, that is what happened. Go to NYC you will see a new building where the two older ones stood. Those are the unemotional facts.

                  9/11 changed the course of my life as it did many people. 9/11 was a horrible act, tragic, I would never minimize the horror!


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                • vivvi

                  NOBODY in the US benefited from 9/11? Are we on the same planet? How 'bout Larry Silverstein for a start, who make a fortune from insurance. Next, we have the US GOVERNMENT, who finally had their false flag pretext to invade Iraq and Afghanistan. Dick Cheney made such a fortune from that that you couldn't even count his ill-gotten Halliburton gains. The disappearance of a pallet load of cash announced the previous day mysteriously went away.

                  Keep telling me how nobody in the US benefits from 9/11. I dare you. There is no way in hell the good folks of this country would have tolerated the introduction of evil legislation like the Patriot Act without it. The evil fake 'war on terror' rolls on with obummer signing the NDAA, which can put YOUR ass in jail forever without charge, trial or ever seeing the light of day again.

                  Why? So fake WARS can roll on, making oil interests filthy rich and Israel can sit back and have the US fight their wars for them, killing other peoples children rather than their own.

                  Tell me again, I dare you. Say it. NOBODY in the US benefited from 9/11. No wonder they got away with it. People are so stupid I am amazed some of them know how to breathe.


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                • truthseek truthseek

                  anne, all respect to you All CIA Da… Does not even exist, as people think of it…
                  It was a term used for military database. A joke on us. The TALIBAN does exist. Larry Silverstein is the terrorist who staged this false flag event to polarize the waring factions and to profit massively on the DEMOLITION of the WTC towers.

                  Please understand and respect that there are those of us who have studied this .extensively. and stand firm in our conviction of wrong doing related to this event which lead to the destruction of our rights, the actual constitution and our economy, as well as the urban demolition prospect which is at the base of our worst fears and comments found here.


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              • Maggie123

                @viwi: I've never found "official" findings/conclusions on who/what is behind 9/11 believable. (Or Kennedys or MLK!) I think it's possible *most* participants, drawn from Washington culture, aren't courageous or awake enough to consider anything but "it must have been those villains we've identified".

                Iraqi people, and our own youth (military), have paid a terrible price while fortunes seemed to rise in two "serendipitous" ways. One as a direct result of 9/11 (insurance, financial activities); the other by military hardware and service contracts.

                I don't try to sort it out, but am interested when I hear researchers who examine details and propose complicity or worse. Just heard one such interview: http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2012/10/RIR-121004.php.

                Interview notes: "Mark H. Gaffney is an environmentalist, peace activist, and researcher-writer. …Black 9/11: Money, Motive and Technology. …presents evidence for insider trading in the days before 9/11, and other crimes of the US financial elite. He also suggests …cutting-edge technologies may have been covertly used …such as technology to remotely access/control commercial jetliners."

                9/11 financial skulduggery is widely documented by researchers. Remote control much less but Gaffney introduces new twist: hijackers were in turn 'hijacked'!

                Financial and engineering research is most compelling to me – remote control still far too 'esoteric'.


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                • Anthony Anthony

                  Similar here Maggie123. You might want to check out Michael Moore's movie Fahrenheit 911… I only saw it a month ago, and lets say, there is definitely more the story. If you watch the movie, remember to note what happened (according to the movie) on Sept 13th (two days after 911) and see where your conclusions take you. Mine where changed after seeing this movie.

                  Of course, unlike me, you may have seen this movie ages ago like everyone else!


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                  • Anthony Anthony

                    **Moore then discusses the complex relationships between the U.S. government and the Bush family; and between the bin Laden family, the Saudi Arabian government, and the Taliban, which span over three decades. Moore alleges that the United States government evacuated 24 members of the bin Laden family on a secret flight shortly after the attacks, without subjecting them to any form of interrogation.**

                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit_911


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                    • many moons

                      Hi Anthony,
                      I saw the movie 9llF., but what really pulled things together for me was the site http://www.911truth.org
                      there you will find detailed information about the materials involved in the event and how they couldn't have done what they were reported to have done…eg. open air fire can not heat melt to the point that it had been heated and many other facts that brings the 911 event into the realm of reality.


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              • truthseek truthseek

                Those needing to do more study, this IS the best resource.
                http://911research.com/ Look closely at the actual building
                blueprints and tell me how a structure like this could
                disintegrate, literally powderfy.


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        • Start watching at time index 35:30 Leuren Moret identifies STUXNET at Fukushima.

          http://youtu.be/frp6sU4MrxI

          The video was posted over a year ago.

          She further states that the virus was developed by the CIA and Mossad to be inserted using a flash drive, because nuclear plants are offline for security reasons so the virus needs to be physically installed.


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      • anne anne

        Here’s another James Stone:
        “James A. Stone is a military Special Agent with the U.S. Air Force Office of Special Investigations”
        http://www.amazon.com/Interrogation-World-War-Vietnam-Iraq/dp/1932946233


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  • TruckerDave TruckerDave

    I wonder if Baton Rouge is in DANGER.


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  • irhologram

    FLORIDA to TEXAS are in danger, for that matter. It's one thing to say the butane stored in the cavern containing butane, another acetone…torilene, etc next door in the same salt dome would cause 100 Hiriosihimas and depending on height at ignition, combust up to five miles in the fireball…. To my knowledge this is the first acknowledgment the pervasive bubbling gas is methane…and not just breaching the dome….in area water wells they were testing up to 10 miles out, and also evidenced in the bubbling all the way to Lake Peigneur. So what that means to me is a contest between which will serve as ignition for the other…but if methane and butane blow up together, the mega-methane chamber beneath sea may also blow…which is a bunch more than 100 Hirishimas. And then what…if anyone in the SE survived? The subsea and subterranean mega-methane deposit that didn't explode would leach out, maybe explode later…maybe just poisen the air.everywhere. You know what…I'm no longer surprised by reports there hasn't been a burn order issued…it's like the story on ene said…if the salt dome has been breached from underneath…there's nothing anyone can do. It has been breached from underneath.


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    • harengus_acidophilus harengus_acidophilus

      Just one question.
      You said "would cause 100 Hiriosihimas and depending on height at ignition, combust up to five miles in the fireball…"

      To become explosive, you have to mix your hydrocarbons with oxygene first, before you can ignite the "fireball".
      How to do this in a proper way, without violating the laws of nature?

      This is REALLY a SERIOUS situation.
      What is the use of highleveling fear straight to irrationality?
      I don't get it.

      h.


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  • PavewayIII PavewayIII

    This is sort of disturbing:

    "…
    Commissioner of Conservation issued an Order directing all Dome operators to immediately begin work to assess the presence of natural gas in both the ground water aquifer and the salt dome cap rock beneath their operations; capture vent or flare any natural gas that is encountered; and analyze any potential capture, impacts to ground water in the Mississippi River Alluvial Aquifer.
    …"

    The Napoleonville dome itself is kind of like a mushroom at the top. There is a space between the top of the salt and the caprock on mature salt domes – the caprock is like an umbrella and keeps the top of the salt dry.

    If too much air, methane or anything else accumulates under the dome cap, then water is pushed out around the bottom 'edges' of the mushroom cap. This is the whole salt dome's cap I'm talking about, not the cavern wells in the salt. If you do the opposite – release pressure from under the overall cap – then water flows back under the edges and starts covering the top of the dome.

    There's something like 59 caverns/wells in the Napoleonville dome. If they start flaring off methane or otherwise releasing pressure under the dome, they will cause water to flood back in. That might be part of the reason the sinkhole developed to begin with – fresh water being sucked into the void beneath the cap.

    Does the Louisiana Three-Stooges DNR have any idea what they're doing? They'll end up collapsing the entire dome…


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    • Maggie123

      If I follow your description, Pavewaylll, water finding its way in due to pressure release would also begin to erode (dissolve) the salts that form the dome's tip? And if dome operators do as asked, multiple domes will likely have water between caprock and dome tips?


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      • PavewayIII PavewayIII

        If the water was not already saturated with salt, Maggie. The space above *some* salt domes (apparently not the Napoleonville dome here) may be partially filled with water and have been for years. Water will only dissolve (=absorb) so much salt. When it reaches a certain degree of saltiness, it won't affect solid salt any longer. They usually call water in that state "fully saturated brine".

        The first 500 ft. of water in the bayou is considered fresh water. It has some salt, and more of it the deeper you go. It's far from fully saturated though, so it would start dissolving the top of the salt dome if it found its way there.

        Water does not come close to dissolving its own volume of salt, so you're not going to see anything like 100 ft. of salt disappear. The dome and the caprock covering it are something are at least a few square miles. You don't want to risk dissolving anything holding up a huge area like that.

        It's not a wide-open cavern – its probably more like a layer of big rubble with open spaces all over. But it's like Jenga. You don't know which rock might cause a cave-in.

        "…And if dome operators do as asked, multiple domes will likely have water between caprock and dome tips?…"

        We're only talking about a single dome and caprock here – Napoleonville. Those 59 caverns are all mined into that same, single dome. They all go through the same layer of caprock, so any cavern operator's actions could affect the entire top of the salt.


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    • harengus_acidophilus harengus_acidophilus

      This are bad news…
      Every variaton of the pressure leeds to extended waterflow and this water solves more salt. Conclusio: what ever they do, they just force diluton.

      A game you can't win.

      h.


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      • PavewayIII PavewayIII

        I'm just speculating on this, harengus. It just seems odd that they didn't mention a thing about the effects on the caprock-top of salt space. It almost seems like they are at a loss for what to do and just jumped on the 'flaring methane' suggestion because of all the methane they just found dissolved in the aquifer.

        The dissolved methane is a problem, but few people (if anybody) living in Bayou Corne drinks well water. They have city water piped in. They have to take care of the methane, but bringing down the dome to do that doesn't seem too smart.

        Maybe this isn't really an issue. That's the problem with censorship though; we don't know. Keeping information from me seems way more terrifying than just hearing scary news up front. Maybe that's just me…


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        • harengus_acidophilus harengus_acidophilus

          "censorship": good point!
          This is one reason to be careful with information.
          And in EVERY SINGLE CASE, everyone releases a piece of information
          which is individable glued with emotion, we have to ask ourself:
          "What kind of game is it?"

          Real professionals are tied to rationality,
          because facts don't have feelings.

          Feelings belong to humanity -indeed- but…
          are they really a good guide if you have to solve
          an existing and matter based problem?

          h.


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  • irhologram

    Explanation of how a fireball would happen. Fumes. They are burning off fumes of methane…but how are they going to that all the way to Lake Peinneur. How are you going to burn all those fumes off …for miles and miles…now. Bubbling up and in wells and bogs for miles in every direction. It is easier NOT to believe this. And really? Maybe it's better. But when enough accumulates in the atmosphere… Yes, you're right. It needs the oxygen to combust.


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    • harengus_acidophilus harengus_acidophilus

      Just to look with realism.

      No question – this is SERIOUS.

      Worst case scenarion (imho) if pressure conditions let vaporize the "liquid hydrocarbons" it needs energy for phase changing. Temperature will go down (first limitation: there is a negative feedback, lower temperature -> slower vaporisation) until water freezes around the cavern.
      Remember how to transport liquid nitrogen: in OPEN bottles.
      Maybe this process lasts long enoug, maybye it's become a "spehre" which ignites to a giant flame, with an eruptive first ignition, but I can't see any scientific acceptable way to ignite the hole material at one time.

      But a greater scale?
      Said by BIG LETTER SECRET INFORMATION,
      from EXPERTS with emotional speech?

      I'm not sure.

      h.


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  • irhologram

    Gosh…I want that to be true. But what about the lake that blew up in Africa, just because of methane outgassing through fissures…although the methane was in hot magma layers in that case…then mixing with CO2…. I'm not sure of the differences. Maybe someone could explain? http://www.globalchange.umich.edu/globalchange1/current/lectures/kling/killer_lakes/killer_lakes.html


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    • harengus_acidophilus harengus_acidophilus

      Right, there is a second effect.
      What you mean is like the effect of openig a bottle with sparkling water.
      Thats what happend in Africa with CO2.

      A no-breathable athmospere kills people immedeatly,
      but this is a different scenario to a big explosion.

      We have to face the real risks (they are a few),
      no need to raise irrational fear.

      h.


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  • Food for thought…BP Whistleblower (and now deceased) Matt Simmons said everything was connected, and gas expanding underground would do so at supersonic speed….in fact if its MERHANE HYDRATES it will expand 178x in size…Nils-Avel-Morner Syndrome…now read this:

    "Police in Manchester Township, NJ are investigating a mysterious boom that shook block after block in the Ocean County community Thursday night. Residents say it felt and sounded like an explosion.

    “It was so loud that my windows were rattling" said Jayne Yereance. "I really thought the house next door blew up. That’s how bad it was.”

    Residents say there have been similar incidents since the summer. Police are trying to determine if they're connected, but investigators don't yet know where the sounds are coming from or who is responsible."

    Think of all the booms that have been reported all sommer. Then google Jack Read's theory about Gulf of Mexico connecting to faults. Look where the booms happened look at the faults. There are problems WITH PRESSURE UNDERGROUND.

    Now look where all the Nuke plants are. NRC states 3 plants since August are leaking tritium UNDERGROUND. Pipes are breaking under nuke plants people. Especially at RIVER BENDS…Baton Rouge, LA…40 miles north of the sinkhole.

    Fukushima is coming to your backyard, and if it happens along the New Madrid x it by 15 or more.

    http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Mystery-Blast-Rattles-NJ-Community-172873221.html


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