Officials: Leakage seen on “many” nuclear waste drums in WIPP underground — We think the seals have degraded — Public “should be concerned” about another explosion — 1,000s of radioactive drums now seen as too risky to move (VIDEO)

Published: June 13th, 2014 at 11:30 pm ET
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AP, June 11, 2014 (emphasis added): Scientists investigating a mysterious radiation leak at the federal government’s underground nuclear waste dump have identified five other potentially explosive containers of waste from Los Alamos National Laboratory that are being stored at a site in West Texas, New Mexico Environment Secretary Ryan Flynn told a legislative panel Tuesday. […] Asked if the public should be worried, Flynn said: “Every member of the community should be concerned. … But I don’t think they should be worried. I don’t think people should be panicked about another drum exploding because we required (the U.S. Department of Energy) to plan for that and have a system in place to protect the public.” […] The Department of Energy has dozens of the world’s finest scientists trying to identifying what type of reaction could have caused the leak, Flynn said after the hearing. But he estimated it would be months before a definitive cause is determined. Until then, Flynn said, it is hard to speculate on what if any action can be taken to finish getting the last of thousands of barrels of decades-old waste off the Los Alamos campus in northern New Mexico. […] given the uncertainty of what caused the radiation leak, transporting the waste now is seen as too risky. Flynn said it also remains unclear how long the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant will be closed or how long it will take the [WIPP] plant to seal off the rooms where more than 350 other barrels of suspect waste from Los Alamos are currently stored.

Northern New Mexico Citizens’ Advisory Board, May 21, 2014 (at 57:00 in):

  • Question: Have you all identified if it’s one drum, 20 drums, three drums? I’ve been hearing one drum a lot…
  • Dana Bryson, Deputy Manager for the Dept. of Energy’s Carlsbad Field Office (CBFO manages DOE’s WIPP program): Well, we have one drum, that is pretty clear. We have other possibilities — and if you look at the pictures… you’ll see weepage on many containers in the heat-affected area. What we’re postulating is that the seals have basically degraded. So those could be potential sources from that aspect as well.
  • Question: And could the denigration of any one particular drum have impacts on other adjacent drums?
  • Bryson: Absolutely.

Watch Bryson’s presentation here

Published: June 13th, 2014 at 11:30 pm ET
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222 comments to Officials: Leakage seen on “many” nuclear waste drums in WIPP underground — We think the seals have degraded — Public “should be concerned” about another explosion — 1,000s of radioactive drums now seen as too risky to move (VIDEO)

  • cooterboy

    WIPP's Drums;

    WIPP knows exactly what is in each 55 gal drum and it's radiation signature.
    http://www.neimagazine.com/features/featuredrum-role-for-waste-inspection-system/

    I came across this document from the EPA/WIPP and is current, as of 2009. WIPP regulations-specifications concerning CH (contact handled) drums/containers.
    http://www.epa.gov/rpdweb00/docs/wipp/shielded_container/shieldedcontainer_082709_att1.pdf

    From the above article, page 8;

    "This report also summarizes the evaluation for credible upset scenario's during waste handling,disposal, and storage of the
    shielded container at WIPP. The evaluation concludes that normal
    and credible abnormal conditions are subcritical and no credible
    criticality accident scenarios exist for the shielded container during storage, handling, and disposal processes at the WIPP."

    Well these 55 gal drums have a head start and at least one drum is trying to tell you something; I'M PUKING.

    Boss: Quick get the Duct Tape.
    Worker: Can't sir there using it on the topside air duct exhaust.
    Boss: Dammit don't they know it won't work on ducts.
    Worker: It's OK they only have 3 rolls.

    Happy Fathers Day
    Peace,

  • 52Rockwell

    I still Love Ya Heart of Texas yellow rose

  • 52Rockwell

    I say we do sumthin and quit Talking
    Who is Game ?

  • 52Rockwell

    Im not talking Violent Revolution, just political action.

    • We Not They Finally

      Totally on your side, but that is SO hard. Picket and protest ubiquitous multi-nationals who silently, invisibly poison the water, food, and air, and randomly cause disease at irregular intervals?

      Al Pacino in "The Devil's Disciple" made an ultimate comment about demonic dealings: "They'll never see you coming."

      On the other hand, in Japan it is so far over the edge that YES, would like to see mothers laying their bodies on the ground and screaming, "You're killing our kids!!" Problem is, there would be no coverage, and lucky if the moms were not dragged off to jail.

      It's a conundrum. But first one with a great solution, then yes, let's spring for it!

      • We Not They Finally

        Say, 52 Rockwell, did you say you lived near Carlsbad or downwind from Carlsbad? THERE you might be able to organize the locals. Just probably have to weave around those who need paychecks from the catastrophe site to support their families. Mostly, people first need to be EDUCATED. That's been made difficult.

        • We Not They Finally

          unfortunately all the efford to hide this dangerous situation has been covered up with massive deception. Obviously our fears of causing panic has created so much deception that the truth of the situation has been surpressed…consequently we may for the most part be open to further and further deception and danger…My main concern is intentional actions by the governing elite to create diversions that could even be more dangerous..

    • StPaulScout StPaulScout

      In due time.

  • mt1000

    YES! extra thread needed here to post WIPP info between headlines!

    Attention – ENE moderator!

  • 21stCentury 21stCentury

    CLIMATE CHANGE
    CLIMATE CHANGE
    CLIMATE CHANGE
    CLIMATE CHANGE
    CLIMATE CHANGE
    …the CLIMATE CHANGE FREAKS don't know the difference between a thermometer and a geiger counter.

    You can battle CLIMATE CHANGE until you glow in the dark while getting chemotherapy…

    ==============

    President Barack Obama said denying climate change is like arguing the moon is made of cheese, as he issued a call to action on global warming to Saturday's graduates of the University of California, Irvine.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/obama-calling-grads-fight-climate-change-24137437

    …..Yeah, and WIPP, Fshima, Chernobyl, and Hanford is made of cheese too !!

    …have fun eating your Atomic Pizza !!!

    ….nuke suckers !!!

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Great to hear from you 21st! 🙁

    • We Not They Finally

      The Obama drive against global warming is a patently dishonest attempt to divert and confuse. It's disgusting. They'll keep blaming all this on global warming until what? Deformed babies? Global warming causes that???

      • Angela_R

        The drive against carbon dioxide as being the cause, I see as a diversion, but concerns re climate change are not, with oxygen depletion, drastic weather, food and water shortages etc. Yes, the focus on nuclear, sits at number one in dire predictions but look at the linkage to effects, because of all, without oxygen we have from three to five minutes. There are already many dead zones.

        Nuclear will be one contributor, possibly the prime one, but there are others, including cosmic radiation. Au posted some good links within the past few days. Some I had seen before, but this time their impact hit home. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yZhh2leRJA. It is long, but it is very important. The impending crisis hit me when I saw the change between 2013 and 2014; to me that came between 30-37 minutes, others may be jolted more by other points.

        • Angela_R

          The above post to all, but it is in answer to We Not They Finally

          • We Not They Finally

            Angela, yes AND…. Plankton gives off between 50-70% of the world's oxygen and is being destroyed by radiation. So I'd fairly say that WHATEVER they are throwing out there about global warming, it deliberately sidesteps the elephant in the room.

            Carbon dioxide itself…. (which does make the flowers grow): There are literally thousands of unregulated toxic chemicals that needed to have been the focus of this in the first place, NOT carbon dioxide. So however one feels about pollution generally, it's all dishonest to the core.

            What else is highly dangerous to us all: The claim that chemtrails blocks the sun's rays to "alleviate global warming." We're been systemically poisoned based on lies invented by the worst polluters in the world. We have aluminum rained on us regularly from the chemtrails, which is WAY more poisonous than carbon dioxide could ever be.

            But then again, it's Monsanto that has the patents on aluminum-resistant seeds. I believe that an ultimate plan is to control the world's food supply.

            It's all sinister. I would not give the current drive against global warming a fraction of an inch credit until honesty and disclosure replaces the diversionary crap that they are dishing out for public consumption.

            Angela, you're great. We've seen your posts and they always reflect a high level of concern and care. Just think that the drive against global warming is by now one big nasty diversion.

            • Angela_R

              We Are Not Finally, thank you. However, there is another aspect I wish to post, perhaps later today. It provides an aspect on the ionizing radiation that may have been overlooked; I hope not deliberately.

              Re, the drive against global warming.
              Cosmic ionizing radiation is rarely mentioned and it is increasing.
              The breech in the magnetosphere and the large holes in the ozone layers are going to create huge problems. Nuclear was, imho, a prime contributor in their formation and together with nuclear's ionizing radiation, will cause further horrendous problems. Yet nuclear's role is not recognized, neither are many other polluting chemicals.

              Yes, as you say, only carbon dioxide is mentioned and like you, I see that as diversionary.

        • lucius.cornelius

          There is no human activity created, CO2 driven run away warming. The entire thing is a deliberate pack of lies being used to justify overriding sovereign national authority and granting a very small number of people the power to remodel the world for their own benefit.

          For those of you who are into the science – http://www.weatheraction.com – this guy has an 85% accuracy rate for long term forecasts (versus the less than 5% rate for the Meteorological Office, who are state funded to the tune of several hundred million a year, and upon whose long term "forecasts", policies have been written. He's British, in the great tradition of the somewhat eccentric, but brilliant 'back room boys' type scientist. Well worth a look – lots of stuff about US weather too. Please take the time to read some of the site.

        • A_R+++++++
          I think we can look to the Pacific Ocean for what happens when you blend fertilizers, warming seas, dissolving plastics, chemicals, petroleum, overfishing, and nuclear radiation – microbes that mutate and thrive in stressed ecologies which begin to kill everything.

          The climatologists' claims of human caused global warming, if you look closely, say that we are but 5% of the natural trending cycle, which means that natural factors would be adding heat into the environment and causing warming, but that since we released so much carbon from the soil and put it into the air, our 5% has created a tipping point because "cooling" cannot also occur at the natural rate at which heat accumulates. We've knitted a blanket over the Earth, so to speak.

          5% is quite enough to effect balances within both natural AND artificial systems where a few percentages can often lead to varied results. As a species so dependent upon predictable weather patterns for food, it is not unwise to wonder about the causes of climate change. We can hope that there are mechanisms so far undiscovered that reset the balance since we cannot control our consumption of dirty fuels, be those nuclear or petrol based. But, no one claims that humans are the only cause, just part of the equation. The media distorts the issue of climate change as readily as they distort the issue of nuclear energy, if for no other reason than to try and make very complex issues "understandable" to their viewers…

          • Me too. Pollution caused by humans didn't suit me either. Fast forward to March 2011. Adding Fukushima's radiation is the worst trump card we did not need on top of everything else.

            I used to look at the dead zones and pollution from BP, effluent from the Mississippi and spent a lot of activism time regarding those and other various issues. I didn't think it worthwhile to worry over the changing descriptions of THE climate change. Was horrible enough that we humans certainly didn't help matters by making mother nature's own cycles even worse.

            So now those pre-2011 issues pale in comparison to the biggest factor of all. I've never been this scared but won't give up getting the word out. Especially about what radiation does to every plant and living creature's cells.

            • We Not They Finally

              Yes, AND…. remember that Matt Simmons, Bush Sr's former energy advisor, was found dead in his own home ten days after publicly announcing that the BP disaster was ONGOING gushing oil, from having drilled a "hole in the seabed."

              Around the same time, an Italian scientist (Gianluigi ____ [forget]) noted that the BP disaster had caused a break in the Gulf Stream loop going through the Gulf of Mexico, and that climate would deteriorate accordingly, increasingly, ongoing.

              A lot of bad cooks are spoiling this broth,

          • StPaulScout StPaulScout

            After Fukushima Global Warming is a bit of a moot point now don't you think. At least 2 exploded reactors and fuel pools plus two more that basically burned up in place. I think this will kill enough to call it an extinction level event for the planet. Some life may survive but not humans thank god.

        • HoTaters HoTaters

          The clouds at 5:34 are creepy. I posted pictures here (Forum) on December 18, 2013 showing the odd cloud formations.

          I agree, there hasn't been any normal weather or cloud cover for at least 10 years in California.

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            AngelaR, the subject of the video has been of interest to me for about 15 years. Would you please write to me off list? Like your posts and would appreciate being able to converse with you.

            HoTaters@hush.com

            • HoTaters HoTaters

              Cogent report. The presenter connects a lot of the dots. I'm so tired of hearing it referred to as a "conspiracy theory."

              Goodbye, blue sky.

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0v07InoFiU

              • HoTaters HoTaters

                "Global pelagic fish populations are down 95%." Oh, my God. AngelaR, I just don't know how long this can continue. Huge wake-up call. Even worse than I thought. This is why (reasons discussed) the reason a dear friend left a Natural Resource Management program of study. Couldn't handle what was learned, species extinction rates, pollution, etc.

                Maybe we should discuss further at the non-nuclear forum?

                • HoTaters HoTaters

                  BTW, I never say OMG unless I mean it. It's not something I just throw out there. A sincere plea for divine or cosmic intervention because I don't know what else can possibly get us out of this mess.

            • HoTaters HoTaters

              I JUST KNEW this had gotten away from "them" and have known it for at least two or three years.

    • We Not They Finally

      Climate change has turned into a main diversion..Its obviously one of the main diversions that is being used to support the nuclear industries and of course is basically just what it appears to be…The fact that all of the world is being endangered by a never ending radioactive nightmare,leaves us where we are..nowhere….My question is what does anyone gain from all this mischief?Time?More time to hoard wealth? what will this wealth do for the wealthy???If we in the end lose 70& of all the planets oxygen and the food chain dissapears?Then what?

  • 52Rockwell

    So> what is it gonna take ? Setting my ass on fire with the kerosne on the Austin State Capital building. God Im not strong enough for that yet . But Sir , if that's wats its gonna take, im youre man.
    Buddhist Monk

  • 52Rockwell

    A burnt Offering of Human Flesh?

  • 52Rockwell

    No Shit ?

    Well Yeh Fuck you 2 big G

  • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

    please limit your use of expletives, 52Rockwell. They're popping-up within your comment's tagline. Admin graciously turns a blind eye to the use of expletives, but we have no right to abuse that good will. Hell, I've been known on occasion to sprinkle my comments with such 'emphasis'. Most everyone has! But we wouldn't want visitors thinking undisciplined trash hangout here…would we?

  • 52Rockwell

    Im up for some black Chicks

  • 52Rockwell

    Any kinda chicks really Im Ready willing and able

  • 52Rockwell

    I got skills:)

  • westpac99

    52Rockwell, you cracked me up there… stay tuned here as there will be a relentless well organized well financed effort. Can't say much about it yet…. stay tuned.

  • mutante mutante

    And now was acknowledged the presence of the Red Death. He had come like a thief in the night. And one by one dropped the revellers in the blood-bedewed halls of their revel, and died each in the despairing posture of his fall. And the life of the ebony clock went out with that of the last of the gay. And the flames of the tripods expired. And Darkness and Decay and the Red Death held illimitable dominion over all.– Edgar Allen poe

  • mutante mutante

    …the masque of the red death

  • 52Rockwell

    It Was a Special pleasure to see things eaten to see things blacked and changed.With the Brass nozzle in his fist

  • 52Rockwell

    Firebug at heart
    .

    • Sol Man

      Obviously the poor record-keeping is for a reason.

      Now what to do? Don't vent the headspace-vapors and risk explosions, or vent them and get the vapors into the mine to be pumped up into the air for all?

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    WIPP review:
    1. 350 barrels in danger of blowing up.
    2. More barrels at Los Alamos are too unstable to move.
    3. Additional barrels may have been stored at the WIPP parking lot that arrived after 2/14/14.
    4. Can't handle or treat berrels to mitigate potential to explode.
    5. Sealing Panels6&7 will take a long time.
    6. Procedures to protect public from further explosions are in place.
    7. A "full plutonium flash" could involve multible barrels, and lead to an out-of-control situation.

    What did I miss?
    Contingency plan to seal WIPP verticle shafts from the surface, should something really bad occur. 😉

  • We Not They Finally

    Exactly, Philip. We were lucky enough to get out of New Mexico within the last few weeks and will never look back. But ever since the Valentine's Day disaster (of which still not told exactly what happened,) we knew we were on thin ice.

    The very last night we were there, I remember asking a life-long New Mexican, who named this State "Land of Enchantment"? She said, no, no, it's not the Land of Enchantment, it's the Land of ENTRAPMENT. Oh, I said. Now it all makes sense!

    • DebbyS-AbqNM DebbyS-AbqNM

      I'm curious about where you live now that you have gotten out of New Mexico. You have said "East Coast" and also "North East". You hate New Mexico so much (you have made this abundantly clear in quite a few posts), I can only hope that you both chose somewhere on the East Coast of the North East (of the USA?) that is a safe and happy place, with no threats whatsoever. Please let us know about that place that is not a trap but a safe haven.

  • cosmic charlie cosmic charlie

    And the psychopaths in D.C. want more than anything for us to be worried about the Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan etc. Anyone who has paid attention to WIPP and FD knows these two things are far more serious…………

    • GQR2

      Its all part of the Fog of War Cosmic Charlie. The next WIPP townhall is Thursday. How do they stand there and spew their bs without breaking character i don't know. Last one,they ran out before the questions got asked. They MAKE TOO MUCH MONEY to leave so early and they ought to stay later next time. Get a snack ahead of time and bring their binkies and answer the questions that will show what a huge clust****k it is – They know people know! – the Workers have been paid and gagged.

  • HoTaters HoTaters

    What, me worry?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUrhcwm34Uk

    "Those guys, they're the worst …."

  • Chudleigh Chudleigh

    . . . "The Department of Energy has dozens of the world’s finest scientists trying to " . . . . . . . .

    Well. hell. I was lead to believe there was a problem.
    With all that DOE brain power what could possibly go wrong go wrong go wrong go wrong go wrong

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