Officials report new bubbling about 3 miles from giant sinkhole — 3 times further away than any bubble site yet (MAP)

Published: September 27th, 2012 at 4:56 am ET
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The Advocate: Another bubbling spot was found in a waterway along Bayou Drive in Pierre Part and is being tested, parish officials said Wednesday.

WAFB: Officials said a bubbling spot was noticed in Pierre Part and DEQ will take samples to determine if it is natural gas (swamp gas). OEP monitored the area and detected no harmful risks.

Assumption Parish Police: A bubbling spot was observed on Bayou Drive in Pierre Part. DEQ will take samples today that will determine if this bubbling is natural gas or “swamp gas”. Monitoring was done by OEP and there were no harmful risks detected.

Distance from sinkhole to nearest point on Bayou Dr. in Pierre Part:

Map of bubble sites:

Distance from sinkhole to bubble site that previously was the furthest away:

See the most recent official map of the 25+ bubble sites near the sinkhole here

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21 comments to Officials report new bubbling about 3 miles from giant sinkhole — 3 times further away than any bubble site yet (MAP)

  • markww markww

    The SINK HOLE FAILED remember it is leaning no one took a sonar or x ray to see or no one has said how far across the Salt dome is. It could be miles but Tx Brine won't tell you a thing,are they scrambling to find answers or they scared or do they do not know what to do. You can't get answers not talking.


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    • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

      Salt Dome is 1-mile by 3-miles.."Texas Brine’s salt cavern was carved out of the Napoleonville Salt Dome, a 1-mile by 3-mile underground salt deposit named after the nearby town, containing 51 caverns used mainly to produce brine. Two of those caverns store hydrocarbons.

      In the Napoleonville Dome, Texas Brine’s cavern produced and stored brine for the petrochemical industry. It did not use its cavern for natural gas storage.

      Unbeknown to the public until the sinkhole appeared, the Department of Natural Resources officials had issued a permit to the company to pump radioactive waste into it, basis for other officials’ recent furor and a class action lawsuit filed last week."

      http://www.examiner.com/article/louisiana-sinkhole-40-days-40-nights-salt-dome-drilling-begins-1

      The new bubble site is worrisome.. 3 miles out, occurs to be the extent of the entire dome.. oh boy.. sure hope it is swamp gas!


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  • enoughalready45 enoughalready45

    From the book “Salt-A World History” by Mark Kurlansky
    Speaking about the Cheshire Salt Mines near Liverpool England during the late 1800’s to early 1900’s.

    [Excerpt P. 321-322] “The strange sinkholes that had been sporadically appearing in the eighteenth century had become by the late nineteenth century a regular phenomenon…Every year new spots in meadows, pastures and even towns collapsed…Toward the end of the century, a lake of more than 100 acres suddenly appeared near Northwich….
    The brine makers tried to continue blaming the sinkholes on the rock salt miners, saying sinking was caused by abandoned mine shafts…But in the nineteenth century, it became obvious that the location of the sinkholes bore no relation to the locations of mine shafts, and as sinking became more frequent, there were not enough shafts to explain the number of occurrences. On the other hand there was an exact correlation between the increase in brine production and the increase in sinkholes.”

    The author continues with a description of how the sink holes destroyed the town from railroads to churches, “By 1880, 400 buildings had been destroyed or damaged in Northwich alone.” P. 322


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    • enoughalready45 enoughalready45

      More from the book “Salt-A World History” by Mark Kurlansky
      Speaking about the Cheshire Salt Mines near Liverpool England during the late 1800’s to early 1900’s.

      P. 323-324 “..the growing disaster was labeled subsidence…The truth was too much brine was being pumped from underneath Cheshire … as brine was removed, fresh groundwater took its place, and this water would absorb salt until the brine was once again one-fourth salt. The problem was that if large quantities of freshwater that hungrily absorbed considerable amounts of salt were removed, they were replaced with large quantities of freshwater that hungrily absorbed considerable amounts of salt. Once that started happening, the freshwater began eroding the natural salt pillars that supported the space between the salt rock and the surface. When a pillar collapsed, the earth above it sank.

      But even in the nineteenth century, when this process was understood, it was difficult to know whom to blame. The area around a saltworks might remain solid even though the brine it was pumping was causing the earth to collapse four miles away. Two or three other saltworks, though closer to the hole than the culprit, might have caused no damage at all.”


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  • dosdos dosdos

    I've seen plenty of cases of salt dome abuse in the past on the Gulf Coast, but none quite like this one. Chemical compounds like acetone, tolulene, benzene, carbon tetrachloride, methylene chloride, carbon disulfide, etc. are usually not present in salt dome failures. This is a special case, unlike others that have happened in the past, as it has all the markings of fracking sludge being the culprit.

    Bubbling three miles to the west would more likely be a ruptured pipeline, probably butane or natural gas. The western edge of the dome is around Bayou Corne. Pierre Part is not atop the dome, and even with the wall collapsing, gas from the dome would not likely travel that far, unless it was a natural cave in the limestone carrying it. A pipeline shifting could pull sections free miles away, and is far more likely. Or it could be swamp gas.


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  • omniversling

    yes Dosx2, it could also be fault spot communicating with the fault/faults that are ALREADY transporting gas from SOMEWHERE. To my knowledge swamp gas is not constant like that, so it must be either communication from either one of the other storage caverns, or 'natural' gas from the formation surrounding the salt dome. Those rich formations extend right down the Mississipi Canyon, and are partially formed by methyl hydrates (frozen methane saturated rubble) that makes up much of the seabed of the Gulf of Mexico. Louisiana, Texas and Mississippi share geology.

    At the time of Deepwater Horizon, there was much discussion about the colour of the substances spewing from Macondo Mississippi Canyon block 252 after the rig sank. Also, speculation that the DWH had set off a chain of events that could extend underground northwards from the Mississippi Canyon prospect, up to Louisiana.

    The best explanation that I found that better than any other explained the characteristics of the Macondo well blow out (apart from simple greed, speed and incompetence) was drawn up by BK LIM. COINCIDENTALLY, his theory was that TransOcean had hit the side of salt dome. The hot escaping fluids that rushed up through the fault lines were melting the methyl hydrate floor (melt temp @ 0c)and could result in an unstoppable venting until the reservoir ran dry, or pressure equalised with the outside.

    The was also the risk there that the salt dome would 'cavern out' (as Bayou Corn is) and…


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  • omniversling

    (cont)
    The was also the risk there that the salt dome would 'cavern out' (as Bayou Corn is) and collapse. LIM's excellent diagrams here:

    Why is BP's Macondo blowout so disastrous & Beyond Patch-up.
    http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2010/07/30/4781973-why-is-bps-macondo-blowout-so-disastrous-beyond-patch-up

    Also see:
    Geologists: Louisiana may be overdue for earthquake

    http://www.wafb.com/story/15550059/earthquakes

    Louisiana Sinkhole, Bubbles, 1000s Quakes Link To Oil, Gas ENMOD
    http://beforeitsnews.com/earthquakes/2012/08/louisiana-sinkhole-bubbles-1000s-quakes-link-to-oil-gas-enmod-2443976.html

    Louisiana sinkhole: Butane well company's worst-case scenario report required
    http://www.examiner.com/article/louisiana-sinkhole-butane-well-company-s-worst-case-scenario-required

    Are Shallow Earthquakes Associated with the New Madrid Fault & BP’s Mega Oil Spill?

    http://www.jerrypippin.com/OilSpillArea.htm

    http://phoenixrisingfromthegulf.wordpress.com/2011/03/01/are-shallow-earthquakes-associated-with-the-new-madrid-fault-bps-mega-oil-spill/

    New Madrid Fault Intro: Site map
    http://www.showme.net/~fkeller/quake/sitemap.htm

    THE SALINE DOMES OF THE TEXAS-LOUISIANA COASTAL PLAIN
    http://www.onemine.org/search/index.cfm?fullText=Southern%20Louisiana%20salt%20domes&start=50

    (cont)


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  • dosdos dosdos

    True, swamp gas is seldom constant. It usually comes in a trickle, followed by a rush, followed by random traces. However, some cases have been noted to produced a steady stream of swamp gas for a period of days. It's rare, but possible.

    I still think it's fracking sludge degrading the salt formation beneath the dome that is accounting for the failure. Too many clues support it. The chemicals and radiation detected, the 1300 feet of what appears to be salt slush in the bottom of the cavern, the sealing off of the wellheads by Texas Brine a couple of years ago after "brine production became unfeasable", their current silence, and so forth.

    It may well have been aggravated by the BP incident, but I don't think that it is the primary cause. If it were purely a seismic event, like what happened in Mont Belvieu, Tx, there wouldn't be so many unusual circumstances involved.


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  • Usefulbreather

    Given that the Chicxulub impact crater caused the fractured and salt-domed geology of the Louisiana escarpment, it is ironic that it may also be potentially the cause of an extinction level event again in modern times. Everyone agrees it was this impact crater that killed off the Dinosaurs 65 million years ago. It was also responsible for creating the complex geology that is so rich in Natural Resources along the Central Gulf Coast. Today, through greed and corruption, that geology is a Swiss cheese of wells and pipelines. Should BP have caused the melting of methane hydrates as ominversling says above, then the resulting methane release could be catastropic and potentially the second Extinction Level Event to be caused by the Chicxulub crater impact.


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  • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

    Interesting research with satellite photos, explosive calculations etc.. etc.. frightening.. he created a wikimap..

    "I spent ALL day searching for other salt dome gas storage facilities near the LA SINK HOLE. I found 10+ ALSO I found 20+ above ground storage areas!!! "HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM!!" Here is the link to the map I created today. It is a wiki map and you may add information."

    http://wn.com/salt_dome?orderby=relevance&upload_time=all_time


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  • eatliesndie eatliesndie

    wow! looks like the whole town could go down.


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  • Cataclysmic Cataclysmic

    Salt domes filling with tar due to underground magma heating oil???

    "The Gulf of Mexico is heating up due to a rise in magma flow convecting (running like a conveyor belt) under the Gulf floor.

    This is the Earth Expansion Theory, where the Earth heats up, filling the salt domes with tar (magma melting oil and creating tar), and pushing the ocean floor up. The tar bubbles as it heats up, and it outgases.

    This expansion lifts the Gulf floor, which displaces the water and floods the coastal areas, and also causes movement along the bordering plate boundaries and fracture zones.

    Texas is now having more earthquakes everyday, including the 3.0 west of Waxahachie a few days ago along the Balcones.

    The Llano Uplift will respond, as well as the New Madrid.

    This is the Earth Expansion Theory, with a flow of rising magma under the Gulf floor

    Gulf of Mexico Update host Michael Edward, with guests Dr. Janet Starr Hull (janethull.com) and Christy Whitaker from July 22, 2011."

    They talk about the thousands of wells we have drilled are now acting as vents for magma channel flow,fish kills, and all sorts of stuff extraordinarily interesting..

    http://vimeo.com/26882508#


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  • Maggie123

    I appreciate the wiki map presentation so much! For me to get up to speed with those of you familiar with geological history and – the layers, the uplifts, the faults, etc. is simply not possible, even though the topic (generally) is a one of my too-many passions. I SO appreciate that you share your knowledge!

    Re the wiki map presentation – a few questions:

    1- I noticed one visual showed contents stored within the dome – but within tanks, perhaps to store gas under pressure as liquid? I've been visualizing "stuff" just being pumped into a spacious cavern, able to move about freely or to sort itself by specific gravity. Is *some* stuff stored in tanks within the caverns, (are these also pressure tanks?) And is *other* stuff just "pumped in freely"? And would these be within the same space – buried tanks + freely loose gases or liquids?

    2- I didn't try to track his calculations to determine TNT equivalent. Has anyone done that – is the calculation accurate? When he said X kilograms, I'd been mentally tracking in volume so it threw me. (Maybe I'd better listen to that part again – my responsibility!) … but I am interested still in a calculation confirmation.

    3- I had a 3rd q. but can't remember it! Enough for now – have got 'tasks' here that are distracting me.

    Thanks again for sharing your knowledge!!!


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  • thecountdownbackup thecountdownbackup

    Watch this playlist from high to low. 17 Videos from 2010 the rest of newer date.
    I saw these things unfold back in 2010 to many's disbelieve.
    Now its happening. This is for real, very real.
    You must leave this area asap.
    http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLuJLNpctwtDzah_568Av7_6fEjhx-WhvG

    God Bless You

    Henning


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