Officials: “Grossly disturbed… disintegrated.. destroyed” bags found above nuclear material inside WIPP — “Anomaly in waste stack” — Chemical reaction suspected based on recent findings (PHOTO & VIDEO)

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Nuclear Power International magazine, May 2, 2014: Workers find damage to underground radioactive storage bags at WIPP — Photos taken from re-entry into the underground storage area of the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant in New Mexico showed damage to bags of magnesium oxide […] on top of waste containers to prevent the radioactive material from releasing into the environment over a 10,000-year period.

Albuquerque Journal, May 2, 2014: The magnesium oxide bags, [weigh] up to 4,200 pounds […] Deputy Recovery Manager Tammy Reynolds said the damaged bags were found in the storage room where the leak is believed to have occurred […] at least one bag had been “grossly disturbed,” with its outer material apparently “disintegrating,” she said.

Dept. of Energy (pdf), May 2, 2014: WIPP personnel place “super sacks” of magnesium oxide on the top of waste columns  […] Based on recent entries into the WIPP underground facility, the team is evaluating the contents of a set of waste drums that came from Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL) that are located in Panel 7, the location of the event. The team is looking at the possibility that a chemical reaction may have occurred […]

Tammy Reynolds, Deputy Recovery Manager at WIPP, May 1, 2014 (at 11:45 in): Some of these bags along the wall here… the form of those bags is not the same. They’re not upright… and also they look like they’ve been disturbed and don’t necessarily look like the material is contained in the bags… this bag has been grossly disturbed… the material on the outside of the bag looks almost like it’s been disintegrated or destroyed and you’re seeing the magnesium oxide sitting there without the bag around it… It looks like the material on the bag is no longer intact… It tells us that something has disturbed these bags, something has degraded the material on the outside… The roof of the mine looks good… we’re still not ruling out any possibilities at this point.

Watch Reynolds’ presentation at yesterday’s town meeting here

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154 comments to Officials: “Grossly disturbed… disintegrated.. destroyed” bags found above nuclear material inside WIPP — “Anomaly in waste stack” — Chemical reaction suspected based on recent findings (PHOTO & VIDEO)

  • Mad_Scientists Mad_Scientists

    Did anyone else hear (in the 5/1 WIPP meeting) where the carbon dioxide comes from? The carbon dioxide is created when plastic decays. Thought that was interesting.

  • Ontological Ontological

    The latest head of the 7 crowns of Tiamat, now also intensifies her dragon's breath of death.

  • NitWit

    Wow that must some hot witches brew the boys at Los Alamos cooked up.

  • RememberThis RememberThis

    Exactly

    So much BS being slung around at that down hall.
    Disgusting………….

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    NUCLEAR CAN'T BE MANAGED . .

    Never could. Never will. Any of it.

    Man blew it, what idiots.

    Lets respect nature if it's not too late.

    • wildandfree wildandfree

      TheBigPicture "Lets respect nature if it's not too late." Sadly, different day, same song, life follows a circle, so does this tragedy to our planet, we are resetting the clock on life some billion years, soon to start over. My personal opinion, following significant review and travel around this wonderful planet, it is in fact too late for most life forms, including the perceived rulers of all, humans. Too bad this was not to be the case. People (not all but most) are acting like they will take their greedy little piece of pie and leave it to our grand children to work it out the details. The details however are way too complex and we are way too short on time for a positive ending. Stopping Nuclear operations of every respect is only the beginning. Sadly the powerful people don't care about our future, they only care about their "NOW", and will sacrifice everything of the future for their goals of today. If this was not the case, we would see an effort to stop, not starting back up and building more. Like I said, too complex and not enough time, our count down to extinction has already started some 70 years ago, we are just speeding things up. Take good care and hug the ones you love, you may never get another chance. My efforts are dedicated to my good friend Nicholas who died suddenly of a stroke last night at my back porch BBQ, he enjoyed his NY Strip Steak, he was a loyal friend and will be missed greatly.

  • Uranium_Mountain Uranium_Mountain

    Is it possible the magnesium oxide in the bags wasn't pure and the bags contained elemental magnesium which may have chemically ignited with oxygen or nitrogen which in turn melted the bags and because of the high combustion temperatures of magnesium burned into the drums breaching them?

    I wonder if they have also ruled out sabotage?

  • American Phoenix57

    It was bad enough my oldest daughter moved to Denver to fry at altitude. Now my youngest daughter is following her boyfriend to teach Geology at the University of Albuquerque. Can't talk her out of it. Best I could due was buy her a alpha, beta and gamma gieger counter a digital trifield meter a 40oz Hydroflask a counter top R/O filter a good shower filter a case of Detoxic Daily Defense a big bottle of Lugol's 5% solution and a mint condition 1986 turbo diesel Toyota land cruiser. Bring on the gray hair.

    • zogerke zogerke

      you are a loving dad, AP57.

    • 4Yahshua

      5~3~5995 (out of 6000) Sabbath in this "Twilight Zone Apocalypse"!

      Sadly, Denver is a very TOXIC place to move to! I was born there and survived (not thrived) for 20 years. Lots of NWO activity and high radiation levels going on. Hubby suggests buying a gieger counter. For me this would mean MORE STRESS about this whole mess.
      I prefer to ingest healers that FIGHT the radiation and cancer.
      These include daily: at least 12 mg. capsule iodine, boron (rids body of radiation), green tea extract, Vitamins C (at least 3000 mg.), D3 (at least 5000 i.u.) and ALMONDS especially in milk, flour, and etc. Almonds contain a natural poison that kills cancer cells (cyanide). Almond milk contains more calcium than cows milk. Cilantro and Shitake also mushrooms fight the radiation.
      Pretty soon the Media BS coverup will be over as real zombies will be seen near you. Those believing in the Father (Yahweh) and His Son (Yahshua) will be protected and saved. Revelation 14:1
      Yahshua the Messiah returns VERY SOON!
      HalleluYah! (Hebrew:"Praise ye Yah!")

      • Alec

        Please check your "capsule iodine" with a Geiger counter. A couple of years ago 2 commenters on ENENews forum said that their tablet iodine supplement was radioactive. I went and checked mine and sure enough it was ~200 CPM with an Inspector Alert. I switched to Lugol's. Anyway, Capsules and tablets may destroy intestinal flora (iodine is a powerful anti-bacterial element), and drops do not as they are absorbed before they get to the intestine. Best wishes and good luck.

  • Sparky Sparky

    140 contaminated? On-line, I asked for an update on the specific number of individuals (workers, families of workers, others) radiation or other toxin contaminated by WIPP; asked how they identified, monitored and supported these individuals.

    A WIPP panelist (not sure of his name) reported 140 individuals were identified that “could have been affected” and WIPP officials felt "compelled to follow-up" with 35 of these individuals with “some kind of bioassay monitoring”. He reported that the remaining 105 individuals (“volunteers”) were also given the option of having bioassay monitoring.

    He promised to give a more complete report on this at next week's town hall meeting.

    These comments were made on the second, brief clip as they lost livestream feed for a few minutes towards the end of the meeting.
    http://new.livestream.com/rrv/wipptownhall8

    I also asked about whether they were testing animals in the surrounding area, but never received a response to this question, or perhaps it was lost during the brief lost transmission.

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Should we not add like 6 zeros? 🙂

    • I believe they were answering a part of my question when the internet feed was lost briefly.

      The question was…

      "Was it possible for those who had been exposed to have transported the contamination home or elsewhere?" [paraphrased]

      They did say last week they had tested one quail and were going to test other animals of 'opportunity' like rabbit or deer when possible.

      Quail results would take 3 weeks.

      • Sparky Sparky

        ChasAha, that was a good question and my concern as well. How do they know who/how many have been exposed? Let me guess: they "tested" one shoe, one car mat, one worker's "volunteer" relative–right? Testing one quail, one tuna, one salmon in total: you have to appreciate the "science" and "data" that informs their statements and actions. **sarc**

        Quail results 3 weeks after testing: "Yep, the quail is dead alright. However, there's no conclusive link to WIPP, therefore, no immediate health threat…." I can't wait to hear their "complete and detailed report" at next week's town hall mtg.

        I also appreciate their clever, but deceptive use of language: "animals of opportunity" and "voluneers". Bets that, if given the chance, these human and animal VICTIMS would have passed on the "opportunity" or "volunteer" experience of being poisoned with WIPP radiation or other nasties.

        • Shaker1

          ChasAha and Sparky, with the safety culture of management and individuals at the site, I think it's likely a good bet that contaminated materials have been carried off-site, especially after allowing something other than contaminated clothing, tools, etc. It was an issue brought up in the Karen Silkwood case (and not just what was found in her refrigerater) and I would imagine that anywhere that nuclear fuel is handled off-site contamination is little studied and/or the knowledge is not universally distributed in quantity. I've worked for physicists; one thing that directly impressed me was that, despite their obvious intelligence and in most cases respectable humanity, they were distinctly poor managers. Which is one of the reasons one has idiots that manage these sites, the prevailing theory that management princlpes can easily cross disciplines; if you can manage a slaughterhouse you can manage a WIPP. The problem I've seen in that regard is that those who manage generally have consultants that may have distinct knowledge of a process, but they don't practice it because they really aren't good at it. I've tried to communicate at times with such 'expert' consultants, and found them befuddled and with a serious lack of the ability gain a visualization of the problem when put in the most basic (my) language. In doing much prototype and special-fab work, you intimately know that look you get from your dog, when they cock their head and seemingly say 'huh'?

      • watch them only test for water soluble or non-alpha. like they did with the urine & water/soil.

        damn i'm getting too cynical. should say, 'i sure hope they test for non-water-soluble (read:plutonium) and alpha-emitters'…

  • Sparky Sparky

    From the astute, well-informed questions and some of the particpants' on-line names, I suspect we had pretty good participation from Enenewsers. Yeah!!! 🙂

    • I reviewed and the questions were great. Franco is sick of being asked real questions.

      • "I understand that RH-TRU began to be randomly interspersed with CH-TRU, identical barrels, not in boreholes in walls but in the center. Identical, so that workers would not know which was which. Workers who as of February *this year* no longer needed special training; they only had to be qualified to work with CH-TRU, since the *new sheilded containers* and *new shielded trucks* made the dose rates the same. Is that why you got all choked up a few weeks ago, Mr. Franco? Is it because you said it was 'fine' to begin treating the remote handled high level waste and the low level contact handled exactly the same, because you and Mr. Sharif *personally* signed off on the changes in the regulations, right before this happened?"

        he ain't seen nothin' as far as questions.

        ….oops did i say that? oh excuse me. o dear.

        I barely prevented myself from using all caps, and from calling him by his first name.

        i think i have to go get a cup of coffee, and calm down….

        …..and write.

  • mt1000

    How come a parking garage in a cruddy neighborhood and a tiny grocery store in same both have wall to wall cameras installed and this WIPP place seems to have … NONE???

    • mairs mairs

      I'm assuming it was so bad that it took out the cameras. I can't imagine they didn't have surveillance cameras in every section. But then who could imagine that they didn't have spare air filters?

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      The cameras are only for you..not them. 🙁

    • But they are "studying it"

    • because the cameras were only to document the remote handled waste, and with the new regs, they didn't need them. not only was the RH now identical, they didn't need to sample test the barrels anymore. they were supposed to come already labeled; they were only subject to x-ray-ing. poof, no need for cameras….

      except i think i saw that they still had some cameras going — i have to track that down.

      ….here's the thing: i was going to put all the docs i have been collecting up for ppl to search through. i think thats an excellent idea, if a bit complicated; i could (sheepishly) use it if the enenews cheerleading squad pomm pommed for a measure or two that it would be useful…

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        For A Female Faust (a little cheerleading poem)
        Yeah!!!!! YOU GO, GIRL!

        We do not pimp
        We do not pimp
        We do not pimp
        For nukes nor WIPP!

        You think that you can turn and run.
        We'll catch your every little trip,
        See every rip, each little blip
        When it eaks out, your little slip
        You'll rue the day you pimped the WIPP

        We'll beat you at your little game
        We'll watch you like the NSA
        You'll anxiously await the day
        The town hall meetings go away
        But be assured they're here to stay

        We do not pimp
        We do not pimp
        We do not pimp
        For nukes nor WIPP!

        You try to obfuscate and lie
        You shout, "It's Truth!" But it's a crock
        We'll watch you like a sleepless hawk
        We'll watch you all around the clock
        We'll overturn each stone and rock

        We'll beat you at your little game
        And though you cringe, and even groan
        And even when you sign and moan
        We'll overturn each rock and stone
        And uncover every hidden bone

        We do not pimp
        We do not pimp
        We do not pimp
        For nukes nor WIPP!

        Though you may run and try to hide
        The goods will soon be got on you
        You'll know you're toast, you're done, you're stew
        The accusations stuck like glue
        You're finished, go, you're done, you're through

        The goods will soon be got on you
        You will one day the truth confess
        Time to redeem your human-ness
        Then go and clean your stinking mess
        Forever and not one moment less

        We do not pimp
        We do not pimp
        We do not pimp
        For nukes nor WIPP!

        • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

          awesome, HoTaters…'cause…We do not pimp…We do not pimp…

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          : : : : ; wow : : : : :

          • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

            exactly…somebody's smitten by your charms. Speak'n of which, I loved that thing you put-up for us to listen to, weeks ago. I'd be interested in securing a Hi-Q copy of that work…

            • the intelligible scrawl below is 'we do not pimp' rendered in ascii art and mutilated by the formatting…

              and — i have to find the disc the producer gave me, it has several different versions on it, i'll image it for you….

              • under the barest of circumstances, i have taken to asking the following request, which i am assuming is relevant enough since you archive media, though it is still a long shot, and barely on topic:

                perhaps you archived this video, now absent from the web AFAIK, and would like to give me a copy "My Spring Garden In 2011 – Message From Plants"?

                (apologies if i am more circuitous than usual today, my ears are still happily red from "we do not pimp" — wow — my best friend wants a copy of it to frame it — wait i better tell HoTaters in a reply —

              • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

                just happened across the URL today, a female faust, that you posted for your blog. I wanna order that work on CDROM. Unbelievably awesome stuff! I'm in constant search for compositions that leave the dark ages behind. If-and-when you find the information I'll need for getting a hi-q copy, email me at: Useless Eater <useless2eat@yahoo.com>

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            (maybe that will work)

            i had a tear in my eye — more importantly, i have something i need to go do, and boy
            am i renewed!

            thank you………….

        • bo bo

          HoTaters that's an awesome cheer!
          I'm picturing these guys next thursday at town hall…

          http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_cheerleading

          • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

            betcha you weren't expecting that…

            • not at all…. i am still capable of grinning so wide it hurts when i read it out loud to my friends (and they all have to hear it, it is the 'happy dog story right before the weather' after the current fuku-nuke-wipp news update). almost have a tune.

              when recollecting when i first logged on to see "We Do Not Pimp" — well, i could belabor the point, but if i do so as a thought experiment, the outcome is always an aswkward inability accurately to capture in words how fucking awesome the moment was….

        • from an objective anti-nuke standpoint, awesome work, really.

          from a subjective standpoint i could swear that you were making specifically relevant references… i suppose good work does that, now doesn't it?

          My best friend just asked me for an autographed copy of this song, graphically rendered (which I love to do) –because it is so excellent — and actually, I would like one autographed from *you* if you don't mind —

  • mairs mairs

    Maybe it was the drum with duct tape on it….

  • Jebus Jebus

    That other mishap is over.
    Oop's we did it again.
    Look over here, no immediate harm.
    We'll get this cleaned up too.
    That other mishap is over.
    Look over here…

  • Jebus Jebus

    Birds of a feather…

    Governor, BRC members to speak at Nuclear Summit
    Carlsbad -Argus – 03/28/2012

    "The all-star cast of speakers also includes Dr. Jim Conca, who will deliver a talk called 'The Geopolitics of Energy,' and Takeshi Ota, a representative of the Tokyo Electric Power Company, who will discuss the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear plant," said Dave Sepich, CDOD chairman of the summit. "We are also very excited by our many highly-reputed panelists."

    Panelists include top academic, industry and government experts from all phases of the nuclear fuel cycle, including mining, fuel manufacturing, power production, interim storage, regulation and licensing, recycling, and waste handling and disposition.

    http://www.currentargus.com/ci_20277561/governor-brc-members-speak-at-nuclear-summit

    Only in America…do we use the word "politics" to describe the process well:
    "Poli" in Latin meaning "many" and "tics" meaning "blood-sucking creatures"

  • Mad_Scientists Mad_Scientists

    This is a completely uneducated guess, but could this be what happened:

    — The bags have magnesium in them
    — The plastic containers release carbon dioxide as the plastic decays
    — The carbon dioxide 'mixes' with the magnesium
    — Magnesium and carbon dioxide can be combustible according to this statement:

    “magnesium is reactive enough to be combusted and oxidized in a reaction with carbon dioxide”
    http://chemed.chem.purdue.edu/demos/main_pages/5.16.html

    ??????????????????

  • Jebus Jebus

    It's kinda interesting that the word "plutonium" is finally being used.
    Might as well, it's been around that site/state/region, long enough to contaminate anyone who visits there…

    One atom, twelve. Doesn't matter.

    http://www.cemrc.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/2011-Annual-Report.pdf

    Hey! look over here.

    Damn jack handy that is…

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    "The roof of the mine looks good… we’re still not ruling out any possibilities at this point."

    What happened to these conditions?
    They magically disappear?

    PHOTO: Broken roof bolts directly above WIPP nuclear waste were reported the day before radiation event — Cracks seen in nearby wall — “Heaving of bottom” may have taken place below broken bolts (VIDEO)
    April 24 2014

    http://enenews.com/photo-protruding-and-broken-roof-bolts-directly-above-wipp-nuclear-waste-reported-in-days-leading-up-to-radiation-event-cracks-seen-in-nearby-wall-heaving-of-bottom-may-have-taken-p

    "Department of Energy, Apr. 2014: The Board presumes either the penetration of a waste container or multiple containers by a roof bolt, or partial collapse of the back (roof) and/or ribs (walls) caused the breach and release of contamination. […] February 10 and 12, two broken roof bolts were found near the mid-pillar of Panel 7 by [Nuclear Waste Partnership]. This condition was reported to the Mine Maintenance Engineer. On February 13, members of the Board investigating the salt truck fire were in the [underground] and observed these same roof bolts and reported protruding roof bolts from the back in Panel 7. Figure 6 shows cracks in the rib behind mesh and with rock bolts [and] where possible heaving of the bottom has taken place under the second stack […]"

  • rogerthat

    Department of Energy: .''.. the team is evaluating the contents of a set of waste drums that came from Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL) that are located in Panel 7, the location of the event. The team is looking at the possibility that a chemical reaction may have occurred.''
    Some questions:
    Do they know what's in each and every drum down there?
    Are these drums of ''high-level'' waste?
    Are any monitors left in place once the panels are sealed?
    If not, how does anyone know what's going on behind the green door, as it were? I mean, maybe some other drums down there in sealed panels are also leaking and exploding as we speak.
    Are there any plans to reopen any of the sealed panels to have a look-see?
    What does ''chemical reaction'' mean? What chemicals are in there? I thought this stuff was supposed to be plutonium and its close buddies.

    Then there's this, from Nuclear Power International Magazine: ''bags of magnesium oxide […] on top of waste containers to prevent the radioactive material from releasing into the environment over a 10,000-year period.''

    So how effective was the magnesium oxide in preventing radioactive material from releasing into the environment? As the release appears to have been virtually instantaneous, would it be fair to say it was a) totally useless;
    b) almost totally useless;
    c) all part of ''WIPP’s 15-year perfect operational record''

    Finally, what's with this 10,000 year business? What's that mean?

    • jec jec

      High level waste from LLNL..you betcha! TRU—plutonium 239-equivalent curie (PE-Ci) content of 187,684 curies". LLNL even boasts about the increased amounts of TRU sent to WIPP. Quick, we got a contractor boss at WIPP who will take anything we send…they modified the papers and we can just dump everything..quick quick. (sarcasm of course)

      See this:http://energy.gov/em/los-alamos-national-laboratory
      Boasting about the volume sent to WIPP. But look at the PU!!!

  • 52Rockwell

    Its Probably Just Rats….Big ,mean,Nasty,mutated Rats ,that tore into to the Bags ,and ate some of that ,ans spit it Back Out.The one of em sed,Hey ..what are we gonna do for fun tonight? Rat 2 sez,pull out a few more Roof Bolts , and Pop a few more tops on the big Kegs they brought us 🙂

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    The big one..rolled a bolt in it's mouth and spit it out..producing a 'puff' that blew the containment off the bags.
    So… the ceiling of the 'soddy' was already giving ..when a chemical build up occurred .. in an area of structural failure ..blow plutonium into the above ground atmosphere.

    The magnesium bags are used to prevent solubility.
    Worries about contact with water ..I would be.

    " Bags of magnesium oxide – each weighing between 1.4 and 1.9 tonnes – are placed on top of and around the transuranic waste containers to serve as backfill. In addition, if water is present in the repository, the magnesium oxide will react with it to form a compact material that will encapsulate the waste, controlling the solubility of radionuclides."

    Mystery of WIPP release deepens
    May 2 2014

    http://www.world-nuclear-news.org/RS-Mystery-of-WIPP-release-deepens-0205144.html

    • jec jec

      PSSS..little known secret..NO water is supposed to be IN repository. It is a SALT dome..a little water and poof it can collapse. If the bags are to absorb the water/liquid from the containers..thats even WORSE. AND the containers are supposed to be there safely for 10K years..not have the walls falldown on them..that does not contain radioactivity. Unless the plan was for the halflife of the PU be part of the equation which would then make the materials SAFE. HUM..how long is the half life of PU? Or the AM child?? Anyone got those figures?

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    "The DOE said a possible cause of the problem was the presence of untreated nitrate salts in some of the containers, which could result in an “energetic chemical reaction” if they came in contact with certain other material in the containers."

    Feds: Los Alamos waste might be source of WIPP leak
    May 2 2014

    http://www.abqjournal.com/393626/abqnewsseeker/feds-los-alamos-waste-might-be-source-of-wipp-leak.html

    What other..'certain' materials'?

  • rogerthat

    … i always thought they were from another planet, but if 10,000 of their years equals 15 earth years these guys must come from a whole different galaxy. it boggles the brain: where, where in this vast universe, and how are we ever going to build a spacecraft to send them home?

  • rogerthat

    ''energetic chemical reaction'' – hey, you just levelled 12 city blocks, now that's what i call energetic.

  • rogerthat

    From Wiki: Gunpowder, also known as black powder, was the first chemical explosive and the only one known until the mid-19th century. It is a mixture of sulfur, charcoal, and potassium nitrate (saltpeter)—with the sulfur and charcoal acting as fuels, while the saltpeter works as an oxidizer.[2][3] Because of its burning properties and the amount of heat and gas volume that it generates, gunpowder has been widely used as a propellant in firearms and as a pyrotechnic composition in fireworks.

    – so a little potassium nitrate, perhaps, for that ''energetic'' reaction?

  • Uranium_Mountain Uranium_Mountain

    But what do we have?
    A Truck fire. Reason unknown. Nothing to see here.
    Broken bolts, no collapse.
    Broken bags of Magnesium Oxide from what?
    Plutonium release of unknown amount. Being lied about.
    Electrical disruptions up top of mine and from what? 2 minute response by a manager nonetheless. That's quick.
    Probably the least amount of on site personal? Because of the time of incident. Coincidence?
    Fans left running with no personal in mine. Three vents don't shut down bypassing filter.
    Filters not effective.
    No camera's in what should be a high security area.
    Employees on gag order.
    Public Misinformation by top people.
    That's lot of failures. I would have had to try to fuck up this bad. This is like a house full of caged pit vipers only one leaves all the cages open on purpose as well as the door to the house! Sorry neighbors, I might have misplaced a couple snakes. Just move along, nothing to see here!

  • rogerthat

    '' I would have had to try to fuck up this bad.''
    – Maybe they were listening to some Janis and got carried away lol

    Janis Joplin – Try (just a little bit harder) – YouTube
    July 18, 1969 Janis Joplin in The Dick Cavett Show
    youtube.com/watch?v=7gsqBEPSrd0

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    It's spooked them some..

    "Waste Isolation Pilot Plant officials are investigating a possibility that some sort of chemical reaction may have occurred in a container drum that could have led to the February radiation leak at the plant, located 26 miles east of Carlsbad. As a result, shipments of nuclear waste from Los Alamos National Laboratory to a Texas storage site have stopped."

    WIPP: Chemical reaction in drum may have caused radiation leak; nuclear waste shipments to Texas stopped

    http://www.currentargus.com/carlsbad-sports/ci_25687734/wipp-chemical-reaction-drum-may-have-caused-radiation

    • jec jec

      Good catch, Heart, now for the investigation of LLNL for DUMPING and misclassification of TRU which has now polluted a lot more areas. Hats off to LLNL contractors..who are THEY??? Same as WIPP and Hanford?

      Since LLNL is under heavy pressure from the state to get the site cleaned up..bet hasty and shoddy efforts.and a few more BIG lies..happened.

      • jec jec

        Someone should also look at the GOVERNMENT AWARDS to those contractors..for LLNL for getting shipments out to WIPP, and to WIPP for storing the shipments. I smell a large rat..you know, the ones who chewed up the bags and glow in the dark down in WIPP..

      • Arizonan Arizonan

        LANL is run by Bechtel, the Univ of Calif. and DOE.

    • Why can't they just say it? It's pretty clear that a container exploded, dislodging a 2 ton magnesium oxide cap, and generating a post-explosion fog which dissolved the plastic fabric that previously enclosed the magnesium oxide caps on other nearby LANL waste containers in Panel 7.

      But no, it's all doublespeak. They don't connect ANY dots.

      And now we learn that shipments from LANL to Texas have stopped.
      This suggests that WIPP and LANL personnel fear that there are other LANL waste containers that share the same chemical contents and risk the same unplanned chemical reaction(s), and risk the same explosion.

      And because of the inertia of the WIPP rad waste pipeline, we now have these precarious LANL containers at 2 locations (WIPP and Texas), with the same contents, the same chemistry, and the same chance of exploding at any moment. Containers which received the same kind of thumb-in-the-air guess about what chemical treatment should be applied to their radioactive contents to prevent oxidizing and exploding for, say, oh, ten thousand years or so. Containers hauled over the same roads, the contents vibrated and jostled, maybe even liquefacted, en route to either WIPP or to Texas.

      I wonder if some of these LANL waste containers are standing on pallets in Texas, totally exposed, ticking timebombs with no HEPA filters between them, and us.

  • Jebus Jebus

    1148

    All the while the nightmare, on the island of dreams, rages on…

  • We Not They Finally

    It's these people's brains that were "grossly disturbed" to be setting up this lunatic facility in the first place.

  • 52Rockwell

    Heart Of the Rose. I wonder how many of those dirty bombs(nuclear waste containers ,that are have a chemical reaction occurring inside ,waiting to blow), have already been shipped to Andrews, Texas. My CDV 700 Geiger counter arrived today,3 days ahead of usps projected arrival date. I have been playing with it all day,and getting familiar with it. Soon I will be in Andrews snooping around.I want to film it ,and put it up on Youtube..

  • razzz razzz

    It's gonna really suck if it is decided that canned nuke trash won't act as anticipated for 10,000 years or more. Like the stuff is inert or something. Pull it all out of the underground mine and store it in some kind of containment so it can be monitored. Dry contained storage or underwater with monitoring might do it and provide lifetime jobs trying to observe and monitor invisible decay chains.

  • jec jec

    This report is damning. Look thru and you will see just HOW MUCH HIGH LEVEL WASTE went into WIPP. By sleight of hand (fraud) the US DOE/EPA other government agencies LIED to New Mexico residents, Mexico residents, and the rest of us. This report is Dec 2013.
    http://www.sseb.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Brown-Mike.pdf

    The new double shielded containers are carried on our roads to WIPP. Note the comment on "EXEMPTION"..and the fact a trucker has to be awake and observing the containers on the beds 24X7. Stuff is NOT safe.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    "“Anomaly in waste stack”
    Anomaly?
    Then so is a bullet wound.

    "Why ..that's just an anomaly ..dear ..it's just a hole in your chest."

  • Are these radioactivity-damage comments (though educated and thoughtful) not just more "Ain't it awful!"?
    Should not instead we 'ruling citizens' be seeking and naming NAMES of those individual persons hiding behind the veils of 'corporation' and 'government'?
    Ownership and authority have correlative responsibility.
    If we citizens' are being damaged by our government employees, corporate hirelings, and corrupt/evil brother-sister-citizen-owners who are ethically (if not legally) responsible for doing this horrific damage, should we not we here be talking about finding ways to counter and punish these individual persons — including those who work for them?
    I'm just asking ….

    • Arizonan Arizonan

      Redhand, I believe the answer is YES. How long do we wait for someone else to protect us, someone else to do it for us?

    • i'm working towards that end — and if not directly, than certainly by flushing out and defining the specifics, the 'per accidens's and the 'causa's…..

      that was always the unstated 'a priori' of this site, in my humble opinion….

    • Jebus Jebus

      There are 334 web pages of very compelling and damning, news reports, pictures, videos, documents and peer reviewed studies, right in front of any lawyer reading these pages.

      If Fukushima was a physical train wreck, fault and damages, would not be contested…

  • Helena Handbasket Helena Handbasket

    From the Santa Fe Reporter article, "WIPP Does It Again," 3/25/14:

    "'The risks of driving to work are far greater than the risks of working at WIPP,' says John Waters, director of the Carlsbad Department of Development."

    Wow…and how is this guy qualified to make such a statement?

    The article also mentions that WIPP and it's people will return to a "…culture of perfection." That is just plain loco!!!

  • Homo Insapiens Homo Insapiens

    http://www.netc.com lit up to an unusual degree across most of the US today.

  • FXofTruth

    "Waste containers to prevent the radioactive material from releasing into the environment over a 10,000-year period."

    Really? It didn't last 20 years!
    Secured (HA, HA) for 10,000 years and then what, it become inert?
    Right….if you believe that, then you believe in the tooth fairy…

    Did this group of morons pull this 10,000 years number out of their collective pea brain? This contaminated mess is going to last 100's of thousands of years, fools!

    Even in 5,000 years, languages will be completely changed and symbols for "deadly & dangerous" will make no sense to people of the future. It's going to make as much sense as reading ancient Egyptian language symbols. Innocent people are going to be killed by this evil and everyone connected to this nuclear pigpen are to blame but, they'll all be dead in another 50 years and this problem will be going on for 100s of thousands of years more.

    I can only hope that when they are sitting in Hell, Satan makes each one of these pathetic scum bags burn as hot as the nuclear contamination they have created on Earth.

  • "Spent nuclear fuel will require human attention constantly for longer than recorded human history. Without this attention, deadly accidents are thoroughly and entirely predictable. Without this attention, they are to be EXPECTED. Without a constant, skilled, and careful attention, accidents that poison the environment, that cannot be meaningfully addressed, remediated, or perhaps even permanently contained, are GUARANTEED.

    We know this, and yet one hears corporate executives whining like irresponsible children, that no one could have predicted, that no one could have expected, that there was no way they could have known.
    One could prove otherwise. One could prove their logic flawed. One could prove their profits already spent, their bankruptcy assured, with the money infinitesimally insufficient to even begin to 'pay' their debt —

    One would be wasting one's effort.

    I used to not believe in hell, when I was younger. Such sins as these become mighty convincing. And they are not, strictly speaking, arguments at all."

    from my "Fukushima: An America Syndrome"

    http://femalefaust.blogspot.com/2011/07/fukushima-syndrome-by-any-other-name-is.html

  • jec jec

    Talk about coverup. Here is a video from Oak Ridge (created for 1st grade level) which with a little editing, works for WIPP.
    http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/sites/oakridge/videos/PHA/CDC_ATSDR-PublicHealthAssessments_CDC_512_500x375.html

  • jec jec

    Oh, darn..Los Alamos RADIATION shippment deadline problem due to WIPP failure (sarcasm).
    http://www.currentargus.com/carlsbad-news/ci_25702350/stoppage-wipp-shipments-could-affect-june-30-deadline

    Now lets see..only defense dept, LOW LEVEL waste supposed to be stored at WIPP(shovels, clothes..tools?)..right!!??.Panel 7, area that BLEW, was from LLNL..right? It(PLUTONIUM) went sky high over a mile into the air..right? Excuse me while I cry crocidile tears for DOE getting into legal hot water for THEIR shell games with radioactive poison.

    • jec jec

      I am also sure the recent CLIMATE Change report will allow DOE to force the LLNL materials down the throats of New Mexico and other victims of their total disregard for public safety. When DOE/EPA considers what FUKUSHIMA has done to increase global climate damage..then maybe we will get somewhere. Meanwhile, I see WIPP being forced to re-open by White House 'executive' directive…

  • jec jec

    Radiation in 'work' day spikes at WIPP:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/h7t2in7oe73qfvs/carlsbad%2005072014%20spikes.GIF

    May 1, 08:29 371 cpm
    May 2 10:25 372 cpm
    May 3 09:39 404 cpm
    May 4 10:44 445 cpm!!!
    May 5 09:49 451 cpm!!!
    May 6 09:54 342 cpm

    Residents of this locations (see link) should look at the wind patterns, and stay INSIDE in the morning when the plumes come over. This certainly is NOT HEPA filters..and is too regular for good old mother nature and 'radon'. Thank you WIPP and DOE!

  • jec jec

    WIPP INVESTIGATION REPORTS very troubling per Sen Udall.
    http://www.currentargus.com/carlsbad-news/ci_25721285/udall-wipp-investigation-reports-very-troubling

    Note DOE 'says' WIPP will not be reopened until all reported items 'addressed." Funny wording…I think New Mexico has a say in this as well. Just like Hanford WA, the DOE tells the state to go pround sand. Once DOE/US govenment gets their fingers on a project–forget the public and the victim..its full steam ahead no matter what.

  • rockyourworld

    one would imagine anyone desperate enough to work in that environment would want to get in and out in a hurry. dont expect anything other than shoddy practices. most probably dont plan on working there too long.

  • rockyourworld

    if they didnt intentionally destroy the economy where would they find the suckers to take this job or join big oils military?

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