Oregon Tsunami Debris: We’ve cleaned entire surface of dock — After scraping down, they hit it with a short burst of fire to sterilize

Published: June 8th, 2012 at 1:02 am ET
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Oregon removes seaweed from wrecked dock to guard against ‘invasive species’
AFP
June 8, 2012

Environmental protection workers stripped seaweed and barnacles Thursday from a tsunami-wrecked dock washed up on a U.S. beach, to guard against “invasive species” from Japan.

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A dozen or so workers and volunteers used shovels, rakes and other tools to scrape the wreck clean, then briefly used low-pressure flame torches to sterilize the dock, said the Oregon Parks and Recreation Department (OPRD).

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The wreck has been checked for radioactivity—the killer earthquake and tsunami triggered a disaster at the Fukushima nuclear plant on Japan’s east coast—but proved negative, said the OPRD spokesman.

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“Because of that and the possibility of other species that don’t belong here, we’ve cleaned the entire surface of the dock. After they scraped it down, they hit it with a short burst of fire to sterilize it.”

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Published: June 8th, 2012 at 1:02 am ET
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30 comments to Oregon Tsunami Debris: We’ve cleaned entire surface of dock — After scraping down, they hit it with a short burst of fire to sterilize

  • Max1 Max1

    Makes me think of sci-fi movies where the "clean-up" crew was actually a "cover-up" crew and the population was none the wiser…
    … But that's just in the movies. Right?


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  • Max1 Max1

    "The wreck has been checked for radioactivity [...] but proved negative, said the OPRD spokesman."

    Odd…
    … I thought the Blue Fin Tuna showed a slight rise from normal background levels of radiation ALREADY in the Pacific. But I guess the part of the Pacific this was in was negative, otherwise normal levels would have shown up in the tests of the kelp and barnacles and reported as such.


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    • richard richard

      good point Max. Nothing comes up negative with radiation.. there is always something. These so called 'authorities' need to provide facts, not subjective, speculative assessments.

      As has been stated on enenews.. what's a level of concern? whos concern are we talking about. what's a level for negative?

      There is NO negative. There is a value. The value needs to be assessed, not someones speculation.


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Seems fake. Dock placed neatly on beach. People walking and playing on it. And some guy saying how the organisms weren't expected to be alive, but did. It all seems to happy, especially after they blew up and sank that boat a while back, which was totally odd.


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  • The reported method of decontamination shows how both how ill preparef, and little state agencies know about radionuclides. As if bleach and fire would extinguish the atomic waste within the structure. As max has pointed out there is obviously multiple types of radiation within the fabric of the matter.

    This is merely another con to calm American citizens growing fears, and minimize the panic thinking process. A simple antidote that will eventually be non implyable. At which point the growing pandemic will also be non reparable…

    A plague of both your houses


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    • Radio VicFromOregon

      Tacomagroove, either they are ignorant or it is a con. Probably not both. There wouldn't be a staff or volunteer in the entire Oregon Parks and Recreation Department that would have the first clue about radiation monitoring. They would spend some time learning the read outs and how to turn a geiger counter on, a geiger counter provided by who know where, that likely only checks for alpha particles. They wouldn't know how close to hold it to the dock or for how long. They would have just waved it along parts of the dock quickly. Getting no readings that they would understand showed a problem from the booklet or online tutorial they read the previous evening in great confusion, they moved on to what they do know – invasive species. Isn't this really just a case of people doing what they do everywhere? – do what they know and understand and avoid what they don't? The people in power may be hiding things deliberately. We know that. These folks here are just the next down the line of the ill informed, no different from all the others who risk exposure because they don't have the right information, but, think that they do.


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      • sandman

        The Oregon Parks and Recreation people had the dock checked for radiation soon after it arrived, indicating that they are aware of the possibility of radioactive contamination. The articles don't say who checked it, so I presume it was someone who checks things for radiation. Why would you automatically assume that the person or agency who did that is clueless and knows less than you do about it? And why would you assume that the fire that they quite sensibly used to kill live marine organisms attached to the dock, which could have become invasive species (as those same organisms already have in California), was used to mitigate radiation, when they already said they did not find radioactive contamination? Why would there have to be multiple layers of radiation in the structure, TG? You know this thing probably washed out to sea long before the reactors started spewing radiation. I believe that the people in Oregon are neither liars nor fools, that they very probably know just as much as we here do about the radioactive hazard, that they are probably doing a fine job, with appropriate expertise, and are telling the truth about it.


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        • sandman

          And I hope you appreciate just how intensly I was biting my toungue to keep in my other thoughts about Vic's and TG's posts.


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          • hbjon hbjon

            Sandman. You sound like a reasonable human being. Please tell everyone why it isn't feasible to assume that a piece of debris, that has been floating above water for over a year, being blown by the same wind that has carried the innards of what was 4 NPP's, carries with it highly radioactive nuclides and possibly Plutonium and Uranium. I think we all want to believe that it is as clean as the wind driven snow, but the mind has a problem accepting this notion.


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            • sandman

              Well, hbjon, because I prefer to rely on the science rather than alarmist assumptions. They checked it for radiation, and there wasn't any. Difficult to assume that the other radioactive elements and plutonium and uranium are there but undetectable. And I don't automatically discount everything reported as a lie. Not that I would believe anything that Tepco says, but these are professionals in Oregon. They are "us", they are not "them".


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              • hbjon hbjon

                Nice rebuttal sandman. The particles that carry a charge and are extremely heavy are difficult to detect using most GM tube based detectors. It matters to me how they went about to determine the dock was clean. One gram of Plutonium has approximately 2,910,000,000,000,000,000,000 atoms in it. Half of those atoms will disintegrate in about 214,000 years. Sometimes using scientific notation can distance one from the reality of alpha decay. The alpha particle is extremely ionizing. (damaging to life)


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  • harengus_acidophilus

    Stupid!
    Burn, radioactivity, burn!

    In former times they've burned witches.

    h.


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  • markww markww

    Unprofessional cleaning of the dock , no radiation checks no masks or environmental suits in case of bactericidal contamination. PEOPLE your dealing with dangerous things the wrong way. Where is your safety equipment Mark


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    • Radio VicFromOregon

      Exactly, Mark. These are volunteers from Park and Recreation, for God's sake! Unprepared and given a brief orientation by a harried public worker who has the added job of overseeing debris arriving on shore that wasn't suppose to be here until a year or two away. No new positions have been created to deal with this in our economic climate. Just more work added onto overworked people. A new task force was named, that's all. But, no new employees as far as i know of. In Oregon, people go to the beach and clean it up twice a year with their bare hands. Pick up the debris others leave behind. This will be initially dealt with just the same. These were probably students of marine science getting a hands-on class about stopping invasive species as they wash ashore or hitch a ride on the bow of a ship. They will assume it is safe to approach debris until told otherwise.


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    • Hot Tuna Hot Tuna

      So Oregon prefecture is leading the way for burning Tsunami debris on the west coast. Disperse, burn and lie (and let the college students do the work)seems to be the current strategy. I guess by burning it there will be less bioaccumulation in the ocean and more in the air for us land lovers.


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      • Nice turn of phrase Hot Tuna.

        I'm over in the British Columbia prefecture, hiding from the rain.

        Might go down to the shore in a minute and check for bodies.

        All in a days work ….


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  • bleep_hits_blades

    THE THREE STOOGES DEAL WITH RADIOACTIVE WASTE…

    What… me worry?

    The Return of Alfred E. Neuman

    http://www.leconcombre.com/alfred/img2/alfred_e_neuman_thumb.jpg

    Only now it looks like he's got a Ph.D. … and tenure…


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  • papacares papacares

    this not fake – yes college students used like lab rats – latest local news is
    dock at agate beach oregon is now scraped burned and buried

    did anyone get to monitor for radiation?

    what does negative radiation mean?
    links to latest local news 6/8/12
    http://www.newportnewstimes.com/v2_news_articles.php?heading=0&page=72&story_id=34204

    also report with video
    http://www.newslincolncounty.com/?p=53265


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  • true2U

    ??? and then burn the radioactive chemicals into the environment,??? What kind of hogwash is that? A hogwash that is. Tepco stupidity, we really have to watch this A~~inine comedy unfold. It goes from bad to worse.


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  • jump-ball jump-ball

    OT, but maybe worth listening to is the 'Fukushima special' tomorrow night SAT 6-9 10pm with Gunderson, Blume, Apsley and Dale, on CoasttoCoastam radio. First full radio discussion I've seen during the 14 months:

    http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2012/06/09


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  • djlippy

    what numbers? how much radiation? from japan…i mean is everybody just sleeping or do we need send our brother and sisters to the beach with geiger counters and see for ourselves..and children:(


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  • Jebus Jebus

    They have found the angle to keep people away from the debris and an excuse for when the critters are all dead and gone…
    Must have been the invasive species that did it…

    Invasive species ride tsunami debris to US shore

    A floating dock from Japan washed up on an Oregon beach this week. Scientists worry that it represents a new way for invasive species to muck up the West Coast's marine environments.

    "We know extinctions occur with invasions," said John Chapman, assistant professor of fisheries and invasive species specialist at Oregon State University's Hatfield Marine Science Center.

    "This is like arrows shot into the dark. Some of them could hit a mark."

    Just like radiation….

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0609/Invasive-species-ride-tsunami-debris-to-US-shore


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