Engineer: Outright failures continue to plague Fukushima plant — “Public may think worst is over… Nothing could be further from the truth” — Japan TV: New method failing to stop flow of highly contaminated water — Experts: ‘Diluting’ radiation in ocean adds to danger; Spreading it out only makes health damages worse (VIDEO)

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Dr. Steve Elwart, professional engineer and expert for Dept. of Homeland Security, Dec 14, 2014 (emphasis added): With most of the media silent about the cleanup, the public may think the worst is over [at Fukushima Daiichi]… Nothing could be further from the truth… [Radioactive water is] leaking out into the ocean, allowing it to spread… around the world through ocean currents [and this has] prompted grave concerns over the impact on sea life in the area and around the world. [Officials] decided to build an “ice wall” around the reactor site… TEPCO conceded defeat and announced the efforts to construct the plug failed… As if things couldn’t get worse, less than two months ago, TEPCO once again came out with an announcement that it was having problems with the ice wall [and] was going to cease operations on the ice wall and pour cement… TEPCO President Naomi Hirose stated officials “will never give up” on the wall… debate continues over how to stop water from leaking into the oceanoutright failures continue to plague the Fukushima cleanup efforts.

NHK Transcript, Dec 26, 2014: TEPCO is still struggling to deal with contaminated water at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant.

NHK, Dec 26, 2014: New method for contaminated water may be failing — [TEPCO] has indicated that a new method aimed at tackling a large volume of highly radioactive wastewater at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant has not been entirely successful. TEPCO gave a progress report on its work to a panel of experts at the Nuclear Regulation Authority on Friday. The utility last month began pouring cement into underground tunnels filled with the contaminated water from the reactor buildings to stop the water inflow. The water is believed to be leaking into the sea… officials said that when they pumped water up from one of the pits, the water level at another pit changed. That suggests that gaps exist in the concrete-filled tunnels.

Documentary featuring radiation experts (at 6:30 in):

  • Dr. Alice Stewart, physician and epidemiologist: All recommendations say one big hit is more dangerous than just a little one… It’s the basis of the control of nuclear waste — if you dilute it enough, it will be safe. Well, we say dilute it and it will add to the dangers.
  • Jan van de Putte, radiation safety specialist: There’s a philosophy called the dilution philosophy, which means if you dilute something, then it doesn’t give any harm. But with all the knowledge we have today, we must say radiation is inducing health damage regardless of how little the doses of are. If you dilute radiation… all the health effects will only be more widely distributed. This is the only effect of this dilution philosophy.
  • Dr. Richard Piccioni, biophysicist: Whether you have put it all in one place or have spread it out, the total irradiation of human beingsis the same. In fact if what some researchers like Dr. Stewart are saying is true, it will be even worse.
  • Watch the documentary here
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  • RichardPerry

    Over two years ago I said that the thing to do is ship the water in oil tankers to the south pole and pump it on the surface and let it freeze in place for ever, short of this will fail big time.

    • m a x l i

      Here, I am wondering if the containers are more for show and the radioactivity stored in water containers relatively small – compared to what is permanently, directly and unseen running into the ocean. If not so, your plan sounds like a decent (preliminary) plan that could buy us some time until we find a solution what to do with the frozen water – it shouldn't and can't stay there forever. There is life even in antarctica. And the climate could be warmer in a few years from now – for whatever reason.

      Unfortunately, every such preliminary successful solution would have a side effect. If it works, the nuclear proponents will say everything is fine now, and they will – in absence of an interested, let alone protesting public – milk their rusty money printing cows until those too perform the Fukushima-Daiichi dance; and they will build even a few more of them. Four reactors are dancing, four-hundred more are ready to join in at any time. Priority of every discussion should be how to bring governments to shut down all nuclear reactors world-wide. Discussions about what to do with Fukushima or how to protect you and your family against radiation and so on is all necessary, but relatively unimportant in the bigger picture.

      4 down, 400 more to go… We can decide through which exit they will leave. Should it be through the fire exit at a random time or right now through the normal door by a kick in the arse?

      It's our live, our planet. We decide.

  • Bill Duff

    The West is filled with Suicidal Jihadis and NPPs, what could go wrong?

  • Bill Duff

    The CIA provoked a European War amongst 100 NPPs, what could go wrong.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising the Truth

      It isn't the CIA that is provoking the war. It is Putin.

      • Shaker1

        I'm sorry, PTT, but that is quite a statement to make, even if one believes the MSM. There is a lot of responsibility to go around, and Putin is no angel (anyone who rises to such political heights these days by definition is not likely to be trusted beyond their own personal motives or the motives of those they represent), but name exactly the provocation of Putin that leads you to your conclusion. You stand and watch as the US and NATO supply arms, advisors, and in many cases actual military personel all through the ME and elsewhere, and that's the best you can do?

      • The evidence points in the other direction

        Ukraine Takeover/Coup By West, Sanctions On Russia And Oil Price Wars; Will It Lead To Nuclear World War III?
        http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2015/01/ukraine-takeovercoup-by-west-sanctions.html

      • evilDragon evilDragon

        Huh?? What are you smoking, buddy?? Been reading too much MSM?

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        • melting mermaid melting mermaid

          Ooookay. I suppose that's on topic considering the deleterious affects of radiation on reproduction. Maybe there's a spell to protect our babies from radiation and the madness of mankind…anywho…there is a good article on rt about ocean extinction, check out the comment section. Of course they didn't mention the F word, what a bunch of babies. Anyone know what's going on in Donetsk? War, emp, possible meltdown, all I know is we is being kept in the dark about something big and I wish I wasn't a muggle and could fly on my broom out of the northern hemisphere right now.

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        War is stupid by any party and this is the year is 2015..all war must be outlawed on this planet.

  • Bill Duff

    PtT is a LYING Obama SuckUP.

  • Bill Duff

    PtT is EAGER to DIE and kill us all for the gawdamn Kenya Native.

  • Shaker1

    I watched a portion of a silly movie (from 1999) called 'Deep Impact'. Its story line revolved around the discovery of the presence of a comet that would cross earth's orbit and threaten the world. The funny thing about it was that in the story, world governments build facilities underground hoping to ride out the manifestations of the impact, figuring they'd have to wait two years before things settled down and the remaining population could return to the surface. If one just follows the movie, I guess that can be believed.

    After all was said and done, only a small portion of the comet did strike somewhere in the Atlantic, and the results were complete inundation of the East Coast to the Ohio Valley and much of Europe. What wasn't in the mind of the screenwriters, though, is the number of nuclear plants in the world. Most nuke plants, if not immediately destroyed and their contents liberated, would be subject to station blackout, with destruction and dissemination of their nuclear material.

    Just two years underground? I had to laugh.

    • Good observation… the public needs to know!

      There is no 'safe' nuclear plant.

      Period.

      Nature will eventually take them all out, if humans don't do it voluntarily.

      The only sad thing is that when this happens via one of many scenarios, pretty much all life on Earth will be gone as well due to 400 nukes and 400 spent fuel pools melting down, blowing up..

      One spent fuel pool equals 1,000 nuclear weapons or more, if MOX fuel is used.

      Multiply 400 times 1,000 nuclear weapons and you start getting the idea..

      Humanity cannot live through 400,000 nuclear weapons going off globally

      • melting mermaid melting mermaid

        That's what I said. How many Fukushimas would that scenario cause. A hundred maybe 2. One is scary enough. Goodness are we unprepared and no where close to sane enough to get prepared. We don't even need an asteroid or Planet X, we got consumer society…could probably do the job without some great war, thank you very much. We just couldn't stop driving in our garage and suffocated ourselves, oopsi. Just a couple hundreds billion years of evolution down the drain. No biggie.

  • Bill Duff

    Only a fool like BHO would corner and provoke a Bear.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising the Truth

      Bill Duff, Putin lover, totalitarian lover, Nevill Chamberlain appeaser. The Ukrainians are a sovereign nation and have a right to defend themselves. Europeans have a right to defend themselves.

  • Bill Duff

    The TOTAL human thermal footprint is TINY, so Nukies fabricated the CO2 scare.

  • Report from Stanford, says societal cost of CO2 is massive, 6 times higher than thought before….

    Read it, and responses, one response is below

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/01/13/claim-social-cost-of-climate-change-too-low-stanford-scientists-say/

    Admad
    January 13, 2015 at 5:34 am

    They have not even begun to consider the social cost of energy poverty in the developed world, caused by CO2 taxation pricing electricity beyond the means of the less-well-off in society.

    They have not even begun to consider the social cost of energy poverty in the developing world, caused by lack of access to electricity and the consequences to health arising from that (e.g. indoor cooking fires).

  • m a x l i

    Well, Bill are they biting? Oh, wow! What bait are you using?

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    You are sounding a bit paranoid ..perhaps?

    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

      Pull it together ..P.

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising the Truth

        Bite yourself troll 1803

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising the Truth

            Bill Duff is a toxic nuclear fuel flea 1807

            • Bill Duff

              It did not escape our notice that Jesus hates pseudoReligiousFrauds.

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              BD; PtT suxSatan
              PtT; Bill Duff is a toxic nuclear fuel flea

              This exchange constitutes about 70% of ENEnews.

              Cant you two elevate the discourse a little? Its so juvenile. Its jUvY!

              Did BD tell his wife, kids, grandkids and work associates to Go F*(k themselves 10 times an hour, all day every day?

              Cmon you two; CAN IT!

              • Bill Duff

                PtT has NOT yet buried the earlier discussions to regulation depth. The Nuclear Village and UniParty minions have their burial standards.

                The PtT torrent never concludes, until only pseudoscience is visible.

                • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising the Truth

                  I am against all nuclear energy, nuclear weapons which are weapons of mass destruction and include use of depleted uranium, uranium mining which is also a weapons of mass destruction. I am against creating even one microgram more of nuclear waste.

                  • Bill Duff

                    PtT is a full time liar.

                  • Bill Duff

                    Ramping up their dogpile, to snuff conversation again. R WE SEEIN a Pattern yet?

                    • or-well

                      Troll, You leave a pattern of verbal diarrhea here every day with your trolling.
                      "juvenile minded (emotionally immature)- those that like to stir the pot just to stir the pot. There's likely a certain element with some psychosis such as stalkers. As I see no reason why someone would care to invest the time in stalking an unknown internet avatar around to pester them, unless they totally had no life and also somehow, at some point, associated the comments of an individual with someone close to them whom they despise and wanted to lash out at, or were so severely demented they take pleasure in bullying someone at random via electronic means, especially when they perceive a weakness."

                      You don't engage in conversation Troll, so why pretend? You can't be THAT stupid to think you're fooling folks…can you?

                    • Bill Duff

                      The dogpile is growing. Soon the earlier conversation will be buried two pages deep.

                  • HoTaters HoTaters

                    PTT, may I offer you some advice? IGNORE THE TROLL. He knows your weak spot. He can make you angry, and cause you to engage in innumerable back and forth comments.

                    Your research here is great, but when you eat the troll bait HE HAS GOT YOU.

                    Just IGNORE THE TROLL. Don't let him get to you. When he does the ENTIRE THREAD IS DERAILED.

                    REPEAT, DO NOT FEED THE TROLL, EVEN IF HE CALLS YOU NASTY NAMES AND ATTACKS YOUR FAITH.

                    Your creator knows your character, correct? Let your conduct put the troll to shame.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising the Truth

                      Thanks a lot for being just as mean to me as he is. Haven't you heard about how Hitler kept going after one group after another? And the people said that is not my group so I'll just keep quiet, until every group had been decimated. He has said very vile things to me for almost two months now. And when I'm quiet, as I am for many, many hours, he just starts in on someone else. Today some people were putting up false propaganda, and he and his friends keep putting up a huge smoke screen to keep anyone from posting the truth. If everyone is quiet, the no one will ever hear the truth. Haven't you heard the game plan: keep me busy so no one will hear the truth. Well, I guess you just joined the game plan. Good luck.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising the Truth

                      “The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it.”
                      Albert Einstein
                      http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/a/alberteins143096.html

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising the Truth

                      “First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
                      Because I was not a Socialist.
                      “Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
                      Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
                      “Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
                      Because I was not a Jew.
                      “Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me. “
                      The quotation stems from Niemöller's lectures
                      http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007392

                    • Bill Duff

                      Here THEY come now, the Religion of Peace is on the prowl again.

                    • Bill Duff

                      Jewish-owned D.C. business targeted by self-described ISIS militants, By Stephen Tschida, BUSINESS, January 13, 2015 – 06:46 pm, http://www.wjla.com/articles/2015/01/jewish-owned-d-c-business-targeted-by-self-described-isis-militants-110539.html

                      WASHINGTON (WJLA) — A thriving D.C. business is the target of self-described ISIS militants. For the past five months a barrage of phone calls and internet postings have threatened employees. The callers vow to carry out mass murder. ABC7 News is not identifying the business nor any individuals because of the sensitive nature of these threats. The business is Jewish owned and some of the threats are anti-Semitic while others are racial or homophobic.

                      The owner says D.C. police investigated but handed the case over to Homeland Security, which deemed the threats not credible. Verizon says the calls are traceable but it needs police to ask it to take action. The business owner says the detectives tell him they must hear from Verizon first.

                    • m a x l i

                      @HT:
                      Sounds like perfectly sound and constructive advice which comes in a well-meaning and exceedingly friendly form. How anyone can see it as being "mean" is beyond me.

                      Even I can relate to "Your creator knows your character, correct?", and you might have noticed and remember that I do walk (often stumble) through live without a creator. In PTT's case what good is faith if it leeds to (or does not prevent) the faith-haver acting insecure and self-destructive? (I know I shouldn't touch any such topic, because it could lead to endless further derailment; but after I had to endure hundreds of PTT's off-topic excursions into religious matters, at some point I want to give something back.)

                      @PTT:
                      Many regulars have repeatedly expressed their disgust and rejection of BDs activities here. If you have to defend yourself, you can do this in a sensible and effective manner. Answering every single one of his throw-ups does not anything good for your reputation and more people will start to turn their back. If you cannot stop doing this, you are equally contributing to the derailing of every thread into the realm of the absurd like BD is. Then you are down on his standard and you two together are working for the same goal – no matter what the initial intentions of each one in the beginning might have been. In the end the results is what counts, not the intentions.

                    • Ness Ness

                      Praise The Lie is a troll himself. It's a shill technique: create 2 characters with opposite opinions and let them have a go at each other. PTL is an embedded shill; he has managed to get some support and back-up over a period of time if i'm not mistaken. Plus he is 'a believer' which gives him some credibility in USA, where any scammer can start a religion and cash in on the tax benefits. Ignore both. Saves a lot of endless whining. http://pastebin.com/irj4Fyd5

                    • Bill Duff

                      Ness,

                      PtT appears to be a reintroduction of VanneV, a compulsive lying faux-fem.

                      Both Self-Identify as elderly environmentalist women, in the Pacifist Christian tradition, such as Quakers.

                      Neither is a provable believer or practicing anything.

                      Just lying frauds, and likely automatons.

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      Now look ..P..(the Pope ..himself)..wants religious folk to toning down of fundamentalism..

                      LOLOL…while preached vestments…LOL

                      Pope Francis Denounces Religious Fundamentalism That Inspired France Attacks, Mideast Conflict

                      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/12/pope-francis-religious-fundamentalism-terror-attacks_n_6454708.html

                      Surely that covers Christian religious fundamentalism..
                      Or no??…lolol.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising the Truth

                      Troll attack 7564
                      Elder Abuse
                      “…Psychological abuse is the willful infliction of mental or emotional anguish by threat, humiliation, or other verbal or nonverbal conduct….”
                      http://www.preventelderabuse.org/elderabuse/

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      Blog this guy ..P.

                      After A Year Without God, Former Pastor Ryan Bell No Longer Believes

                      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/04/ryan-bell-atheist_n_6397336.html

                      In another interview ..they ask Ryan Bell .. how it went ..having a Christian wife.
                      He said there was a whole lot more to marriage than religious considerations.
                      I like that..

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      Your aged brain toasting ..there P?

                      The demographic shows..age group of most interest in Enenews..is 55- 65.

                      Take a vitamin or something…

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising the Truth

                      Troll Attack 7565
                      Abuse is Always Wrong!
                      Abuse Against Women
                      • “…Humiliation — An abuser will do everything he can to make you feel bad about yourself, or defective in some way. After all, if you believe you're worthless and that no one else will want you, you're less likely to leave. Insults, name-calling, shaming, and public put-downs are all weapons of abuse against you as a woman and designed to erode your self-esteem and make you feel powerless. …”
                      http://www.abuse-against-women.com/

                    • Bill Duff

                      Autobots, such as PtT, are recent programs, NOT Senior Citizens. FauxFems are not legally female, in Texas.

                    • Bill Duff

                      PtT uses NSA Action Words, 4 Censor Attempts. Computers communicate by code, mostly binary, except Autobots.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising the Truth

                      Bill Duff troll attack 7567, 7568

                      I am a woman, senior citizen, and not an autobot. I register as myself on this website, and Admin knows I am speaking the truth. The FBI and any other intelligence agency. Even the nuclear community knows who I am. I married in the Ukrainian Catholic Church, sang in a Presbyterian choir and was an elected Stanford representative for Presbyterian students. I played the organ for 3 different Lutheran churches and was a choir director/ organist for a Methodist Church.

                      The Fukushima disaster and the Seven Principles of National-Nuclearism (PDF)
                      “…Seventh principle – Denial of man as a human being…”
                      https://lucian.uchicago.edu/blogs/atomicage/files/2014/07/National-NuclearismTR.pdf

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising the Truth

                      Bill Duff, I have numerous copyrights at the Library of Congress. I have been nominated several times to various times to Who's Who in America publications. I don't have to put up with your attacks and slander. I am only here because I am against all weapons of mass destruction including uranium mining, nuclear energy, and uranium and nuclear weapons. I am against any production of plutonium, curium, americium, etc., or even one more microgram of nuclear waste.

                      I speak with intelligence because I have 3 graduate degrees: one PH.D., 2 master's degrees and 2 bachelor's degrees, plus I have taken many math and science courses since graduating with my Ph.D.

                    • Bill Duff

                      This PtT elaborate lie, is still a lie, by a lying liar.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising the Truth

                      Fool 7569

              • smellslike

                CodeShutdown, smells like Duff has no one in his life who will talk to him. Surprised?
                Flamer Personality Disorder

                FPD Symptoms:

                1.Namecaller: This defines the flamer. "Flamer" means "namecaller"… –>
                2. Competitive/argumentative: flamers are fighters; verbal brawlers. We greatly enjoy arguments for their own sake, and will start flamewars intentionally…. –>

                3. Amoral: we think that our insults, verbal abuse, character attacks, and even death threats are perfectly acceptable behavior, once "justified"… –>

                4. Vengeful: flamers believe that once an insult has been received, it becomes perfectly acceptable to return the insult, or even to embark on a longrunning insult stream… –>

                5. Deceitful: we see nothing wrong with deception and distortion as long as our victims don't catch on… –>

                6. Narcisstic: we have extreme vanity, taking the form of an exquisite sensitivity to anything which even SLIGHTLY resembles an insult… –>

                7. Paranoid: we flamers constantly display secretive behavior, being careful to never freely discuss personal info about our schooling, experience, everyday lives… –>

                8. No self-doubt. Perfect people never monitor themselves to avoid mistakes… –>

                9. Self-blind: No insight into our own flaws and foibles… –>

                10. Hypocrits: we're totally enmeshed in a self-serving bias: "when I do something offensive, it's really a pure and justified deed, but when you do exactly the same thing, it's a shameful…

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising the Truth

      ite yourself troll 1802

  • Take effective actions, stop effen with trolls

  • Dana Durnford — Needs Some Support, You Got a Digital Camera, Let's Go

    I have been corresponding with Dana Durnford and offering my services for any engineering or research/analysis he could use to support his studies.

    He humbly said, stock you are already doing enough, your website is a full time job.

    But I did finally get him to come up with an idea….

    BTW his email is danadurnford@hotmail.com He wants you to send him pictures at the beach.

    See my plan below.

    http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2015/01/dana-durnford-needs-some-support-you.html

  • Nick

    "Before clicking 'Submit Comment', please make sure it's: 1) On-Topic – This includes off-topic political, religious, or other such comments; 2) Relevant; 3) Not repetitive; 4) Not insulting, rude or hateful – No personal attacks;" enenews.com

    Quiz:
    1. Guess Who?
    2. See any offtopic? political? insults? Hateful crap?

    (PtT is a LYING Obama SuckUP.
    PtT is EAGER to DIE and kill us all for the gawdamn Kenya Native.
    PtT jumps up to DEFEND the Kenya Native in a heartbeat, every time.
    PtT BLOWS Obamas horn, all the time.
    PtT is a gawdamn liar and Satan Spawn, same as the lyinVanneVbtch.)

    I await the exalted one's vile response.

    • Hey Nick, just like the radiation I am just not seeing it, LOL sarc

    • Weee… Quill Fluf Hooo Rah. Just a soldierin on eh?. Twit. As to real issues, Still not peep one about removing the potential danger the CSFSU is. Radiation levels rise every day. Decay will persist. Major oops will unfold. Blundering through will worsen lot faced by all. aNd ow bact to Bill Fluff…

      • Bill Duff

        OK, Ill Play, FY Alan Reid.

        Dogpile reinforcements begin to arrive. Time to BURY any meaningful conversation.

        • or-well

          Troll, you don't have conversations.

          "The profile in some ways is very similar to a Serial Killer. Away from the mask of a computer they
          are actually quite pathetic. Nearly invisible in real life,
          silent and fearful people, typical poster children for the
          wall flower. They are convinced that everyone is a liar or evil.
          If anyone appears to be nice they are convinced that
          person is a liar. The profile went on to say they may
          have experienced a huge disappointment in their life,
          like a divorce where they were convinced mother (or father)
          was to blame. (all women are ****s) We all know the type
          from high school or in the office. The kind of character that is
          colorless and boring in real life. Socially out of touch."

          • Bill Duff

            PsychoBabble Bullshit to divert a glowing ember of conversation.

            • or-well

              Troll, you're a dying ember of trollspew and flamebait. Quite an ash.

              • Bill Duff

                Why dont you quote Freud, Mengele or Kensey, you dumbshit?

                • or-well

                  Why, Troll, when there's this –
                  Rebel Without a Clue's deep seated and infantile hostility to authority motivates his random and seemingly gratuitous attacks on list owners, Admins, Nannies or anyone else who attempts to maintain order and civility in discussion forums. Differing markedly from Rebel Leader, he is unattached to any cause other than petulance for its own sake, and will therefore seldom inspire general insurrection. In his frequent and ineffectual attacks on the established order he will often cite the Bible, or the US Constitution to support incoherent arguments. Rebel Without a Clue NEVER reads forum FAQs , and loudly decries as fascism any enforcement whatsoever of forum rules.

                  • +1

                    "infantile hostility"
                    "gratuitous attacks"
                    – or-well

                    Well said.

                    For some reason? This entity has outlasted Soc, Factchucker and MBP to name a few. I don't know why?

                    • or-well

                      ChasAha, because Admin has put the site on autopilot. This is what happens. It will get worse.

                    • I hear you or-well.

                      That is unfortunate, to say the least.

                      I no longer place links back to this site, since this entity has been allowed to linger.

                      Many are/have slowly disassociated themselves with this site, I believe, specifically for this reason. 😐

  • cosmic charlie cosmic charlie

    The very thing that was to be avoided at all costs has already occured (the outright failure). It is truly over but the crying.

  • Nick

    The failure is the technology itself.

    Humans are not sentient, nor intelligent enough to be able to keep
    harmful "human-made radiation" from entering the biosphere.

    Since the early days of our attempts to fission for dreams, way too many wayward atoms have flown the coop despite our belief that containment was attainable.

    While much of the releases are "un-intentional", much has been intentional (venting, sea-disposal, water discharge,etc.).

    What is bizarre, is the attempts by the nuclear cabal to con us all into believing that TMI/Chernobyl/Fukushima/WIPP disasters actually
    make the technology safer since the industry has promised to learn from those events and mistakes.

    Doesn't work that way. Radiation released from fission piles is deadly and eternal, despite all the rants about half-lives and decay chains, etc

    I realize that using plutonium power packs for space probes may be a wonderful use of the technology. But that is about it. All else has been for weapons and profits.

    The nuclear nightmare can't be phased out before it phases us all out. Thus it was a mistake (aka failure) from the GET GO.

    No shillacking can change that reality.

    GMI is our only benefit from this retched endeavor.

    • m a x l i

      What you say makes all sense.

      In the outer rim of our solar system our sun becomes a tiny dot like all the other stars. There is not much energy from the sun arriving that could power a space probe. And around Pluto, there are not any petrol stations. There, a plutonium battery could make sense – and only there. On earth, we can get all the energy we need to brown our toast and to drive our cars from the sun x-hundredfold.

  • Dick Shenary

    Bill Duff – "High Priests routinely deceive, Joseph Ben Caiaphas, is an example. Your routine example is only two thousand years old. Bill – even for a shill, you are full of it.

  • Dick Shenary

    Intentional repost – “When the scientific method is betrayed and false information is promulgated in the guise of truth, all human beings are betrayed. Their minds become repositories of false ideas, planted there for political purposes. Having no objective frame of reference by which to evaluate the deeds of government, people are literally “dis-abled.” They are robbed of the knowledge necessary to make their own informed judgment on important issues. Such a state of affairs is the precursor to tyranny and intellectual enslavement.” – A Primer in the Art of Deception – Paul Zimmerman 2009

    • Bill Duff

      The Road to Serfdom, 1943, Friedrich von Hayek, Austrian economist and philosopher.

    • Bill Duff

      Road to Serfdom, Hayek

      http://mises.org/library/road-serfdom-0

      mises.org/sites/default/files/Road%20to%20serfdom.pdf

      The very magnitude of the outrages committed by the National Socialists has strengthened the assurance that a totalitarian system cannot happen here. But let us remember that 15 years ago the possibility of such a thing happening in Germany would have appeared just as fantastic not only to nine-tenths of the Germans
      themselves, but also to the most hostile foreign observer.

      There are many features which were then regarded as ‘typically German’ which are now equally familiar in America and England, and many symptoms that point to a further development in the same direction: the increasing veneration for the state, the fatalistic acceptance of ‘inevitable trends’, the enthusiasm for ‘organization’ of everything (we now call it ‘planning’).

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        And this is relevant to WHAT?

        • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising the Truth

          BD is a Russian trying to get Americans to revolt against their government. Only Russians think in terms of serfs. Watch the video just posted by eatliesanddie [who is really Bill Duff]. It is also about serfdom. More propaganda.

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Praising the Truth

            Or he is an Illuminati preparing people for their serfdom under the NWO. Mostly everything he says is just the opposite of what he is really spreading propaganda to achieve. He is part of a psychological study on how to control people. He keeps experimenting on us every day on this website for almost 4 years, and for years before on other websites.

        • Bill Duff

          EWE 2 DumbFucks are floundering.

  • Well, another day, another trashed thread I see. My OT post is that my recent .15uSv counts are still reflecting higher readings that were reported in Seattle a couple days ago. What the Fukushima cam watchers have been reporting is in synch with jet stream movement as usual. That's all I got. 🙂
    Peace and good as it gets health wishes to all.

  • Nick

    For those new to enenews, you might have noticed that from time to time
    posters seem to suffer from B.D.uhreal disease.

    Those afflicted tend to venture off topic and are apt to retort with caustic and vile replies.

    Meanwhile the thread must grind on despite such trivial rejoinders and personal attacks.

    Those afflicted with B.D.uhreal disease tend to think folks can self fornicate.

    Yawn.

  • Bill Duff

    Certainly I aspire to SNUFFING the Nuclear Village, every mothers son uv dem.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    U.S. lawmakers looking to intensify DOE’s low-dose radiation research
    Jan 12 2015

    http://news.sciencemag.org/health/2015/01/u-s-lawmakers-looking-intensify-doe-s-low-dose-radiation-research

    The US Congress is about to sanction the funding of human experimentation ..as they look for results ..while never telling the masses know the true extent of exposure.

    American Mengele: Human Radiation Experiments

    http://brooklynrail.org/2002/10/express/american-mengele-human-radiation-experim

    What's new to know..?

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    A Doomsday Plane Reminder: Nuclear Weapons Haven't Gone Away
    Jan 13 2015

    "Why doesn’t this story get more attention, since it’s the only manmade threat that really could wipe out our civilization? One possible reason is that people think nuclear war is very improbable – a failure of imagination, as Thomas Friedman put it after the 9-11 attacks. Another reason, perhaps, is that they’ve simply gotten used to the danger, and prefer not to think about the unthinkable. But a third possibility, which would be worth testing, is that a majority of Americans believe they are defended against nuclear attack, even though in the common-sense definition of that term they are not."

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/lorenthompson/2015/01/13/a-doomsday-plane-reminder-nuclear-weapons-havent-gone-away/

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    The United States and Japan: Allies, Global Partners, and Friends for the Future
    Jan 13 2015

    http://www.state.gov/p/eap/rls/rm/2015/01/235903.htm

    Pals in deception..
    Camaraderie among bandits and thieves..

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  • If Arto is right we are looking at a very different paradigm at Daiichi….nobody wants to be right about such dismal things!Arto Lauri thinks all three cores gasified….gut wrenching material….he opens with the drama taking place in Finland, that is the sacrifice of such a rare, egalitarian society, rich in beauty, academic accomplishments, and pristine natural resources to the Plutonium Mafia….
    so for making these videos he is facing some tuff retaliation, also he owns home close to the NPP…

    Arto Lauri 94. Fukushima No.4: http://youtu.be/0xg7ZaudB-s

    Thought i had heard it all…..we need to recalculate the mess we're in…..God Help Japan! Save the Dolphins!

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