Published: July 12th, 2011 at 5:43 pm ET
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Radiation Station Stats, EnviroReporter, July 8, 2011:
10:05 pm 10-minute INTERIOR average: 39.9 CPM
9:50 pm 10-minute EXTERIOR average: 45.6 CPM NORMAL4:00 pm INTERIOR spot reading in Santa Monica market with approximate background of 39 CPM – Two peaches sustained 81 CPM and above or over two times background (208% of site background).
3:40 pm 10-minute INTERIOR average: 39.6 CPM
3:25 pm 10-minute EXTERIOR average: 47.0 CPM
1:05 pm 10-minute INTERIOR average: 39.6 CPM
12:45 pm 10-minute EXTERIOR average: 45.8 CPM [...]
h/t ChasAha via Two Peaches in Greater Los Angeles found high in radiation
Published: July 12th, 2011 at 5:43 pm ET
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Wow… Just more proof that radiation is hitting The United States.
And then there is this:
Radiation Coverups And Dangers Exposed Worldwide
http://theintelhub.com/2011/07/12/radiation-coverups-and-dangers-exposed-worldwide/
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Yes, of course the NRA and the IAEA depend on the nuclear industry. How would they keep their jobs if there were no nuke plants? Our governments should be taking responsibility themselves instead of using those agencies as scapegoats.
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Well that’s just Peachy !
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A peach of a nuclear info site http://realitycheck.no-ip.info/nnn.html
i’m still bummed i felt compelled to cancel my organic CSA shares and i live in mid-west nowhere. if produce says USA i sigh and turn away.
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Yes sadly, the only grown produce from here out may be South of the equator, but we already knew this would be, it just seems to take a bit of news here and there of the reality to remind use all how bad this is really going to get. Sadder yet the fact that it will get down there too before it will be stopped !
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And how much radiation would you get with peaches and cream?
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I promise you with the way things are going people will beat a path to buy even contaminated foods when shortages start showing up from droughts and flooding and no crops coming in, in the very near future !
People will eat knowing the risk but the power of hunger will over ride the dangers of cancer and the government’s know this and that is why Japan will be eating their own foods, NO CHOICE, Eat or DIE Starving !
It is not pretty nor will it be here when the prices for uncontaminated foods will be multiple times prices of foods that are scarce but irradiated !
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I am planting quinoa (in my covered up garden) tomorrow in response to a survival email I received.
http://www.heirloom-organics.com/guide/va/guidetogrowingquinoa.html
http://www.saltspringseeds.com/scoop/powerfood.htm
http://www.gardeningblog.net/how-to-grow/quinoa/
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Did you finish your greenhouse ?
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xdrfox, I did finish my greenhouse.
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Can you tell us how large it is and do you have an idea of how much in bushels and measurements do you think you will be able to harvest each year from it ?
Are there many tiers/shelfs and how high is it ? All glass or plastics, we all know how hard you worked on it and were so tired some evenings !
Must be so great to work with your hands with soil and new life germinating growing into foods to can and more !
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anne, which water do you use for watering your plants?
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14 years ago I put in raised beds for growing vegetables. My greenhouses are really glorified cold frames, now covered to keep out the radioactive rain. \
Unfortunately, I don’t have a whole house filter and it will be months before I can afford one, so I could be using much better water for the garden. I have 5 structures. Almost all my materials I had bought more than 10 years ago. Some 4X4′s were outlining other gardens. They are probably more radioactive than I would like to know.
I’m just doing better than nothing. I just consider everything a experiment so I will know better next year. The amaranth comes back up every year automatically. My garden is strictly just for one person and I won’t be able to grow enough to be completely self-sufficient.
Mostly I try to grow what is expensive in the grocery stsore. Burdock root, which I grew in the past, is really a weed, yet goes for $7.95 a pound. Amaranth and quinoa and dandelion greens are also weeds in our culture, yet extremely nutritious, as is flax seed.
I used plastic on the sides and fiberglass or rigid polycarbonate sheets for the roofs. The largest green house has a structure about 10′by 10′ but the garden is bigger than that: an octagon made of foundation blocks two blocks high with a patio block layer at the top. This one is 7 feet high and has sliding windows of rigid polycarbonate clerestory windows. There is an overhang over the windows because I’m trying to avoid the rain.
Basically I looked at lots of pictures on the internet, bought some books on framing, sheds, and greenhouses, and made everything according to materials I already had. All the roofs also are covered with rolls of plastic sheeting and the sides hang down from the roof. Three also use some chain link posts I had and are in mortor in foundation blocks. For the largest one I had four blocks shaped to hold 4×4′s that I had originally bought to build an arbor over the walkway. Most of the lumber was recycled from previous projects and some of the wood was plastic wood I god to cover my wheelchair ramp on the sides and hadn’t ever covered the sides.
Everything took me so long because I didn’t want to fall down so I had to work very slowly and also I didn’t know what I was doing so I had to do it over 2 or 3 times.
I like to grow collard greems especially, and herbs, and this year I’m growing green pole beans, squash with corn, and onions and garlic and beets. I had metal bean poles, but they get too hot when the sun is shining, so I had to take them out. My lot is very narrow and they set my house back of the two houses on either side, so the garden has warm houses on three sides which helps in the winter. One year I had beets all year long.
The other beds are 4′ wide and have 4/4′s (3 tall), so you can sit on the side to take care of the bed.
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Very impressive on your post about your greenhouse. A model of ingenuity and determination. If I owned land, I’d love to try the same.
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So ted is 4′by 8′ but the wooden sides are larger so you can walk around. One is 4′ by 16′ and one is 4′ by 10′ and the 4th is 4′ by 5′. This one has wooden sides about one foot tall but is dug down to get to warmer soil. It is five feet tall on the north side and 3 feet tall on the south side and has rigid polycarbonate panels above the wood sides which increase those sides another 2 feet.
We do have wonderful water in Colorado, except that the radioactive particles stick to snow. So with all the snow and rain outs the snow runoff couldn’t be that wonderful. That’s why I have to have a very strict diet. I am eating my black raspberries which are uncovered and are giving me a slight short-lived stomach ache.
I do have wonderful spring water, Eldorado Springs water which I’ve used exclusively for drinking and cooking (when I used to cook) and now for the first overnight soaking for my sprouts, for 22 years.
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I think it should have said “one bed”
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Awsome, so much inf. that sun can make metal very hot for sure, you were busy ! got a little city of green house’s ! Really some trial and error but thats how we learn a better way ! You done good girl !
Are you eating anything from it yet ? I do not know how long some of the plants take to grow.
Anyway I am more of a hunter ! lol
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I already grow amaranth
Amaranth Seeds are a Rich Source of Squalene
http://migenetics.wordpress.com/2010/10/13/amaranth-seeds-are-a-rich-source-of-squalene/
Some people eat sharks for the squalene, but amaranth is a vegetable sourse.
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Whoa ! Didn’t know that !
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Amaranth is the food of the Azteca gods. How did they transfer the high energy to the human system? By popping the kernals like popcorn, then grind into flour, or keep whole and mix with honey or milky like cereal. Super high calcium and long shelf life make it on the crazytimes menu!!!!!
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“Crazytimes menu” –that sums it up!!
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Thanks for the information. They should have been putting this on the airwaves and constant messages to the food companies. Of course they’d probably come up with some synthetic substitute that doesn’t have the anti-cancer properties. They seem to love that! I respect what you’re doing and admire your optimism but what kind of world will it be that you’re working so hard to live to see? I’m not trying to demean or discourage, actually I’m pointing out how strong you are under pressure. Determined to carry on, shouting in the wind about methods that could save peoples’ lives. I don’t know what the answer is but I suspect you are a woman way ahead of our times and also a throwback to the strong women of tough times in past generations! If you can get all your information together I think it would be worth sending to all the major health sites and “prepper” sites, if they do’t already know it! Keep up the good work, they say we get discouraged but people like you prove otherwise, damn the odds. I like it.
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I had plants from last year still growing and I planted collard greens and beets in March.
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This is sadly true and may already be happening.
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It’s the pits………
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so this confirms what I already know – that the North American food supply is contaminated…… how bad? how far? is it just the west coast? what about the mid-west? south? northeast? will it get worse? how much worse?
so many questions – so little answers
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The entire US including Alaska has been hit hard. We are all down winders now.
Yes, there were days when Texas wasn’t hit as hard as the rest of the lower 48. But once hit, it is, for all intents and purposes, forever. So what if just half of the radioactivity has dropped to half it’s present amount in 30 years or 1000 years. 7 generations out will still be dealing with it.
This nuclear mess has clearly left us in the scenario Buskminster Fuller envisioned as a possibility….that ours will be the most reviled generation in the known history of humanity.
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I didn’t know Bucky said that. I have often thought it, though. We look back at the Greeks and Romans with admiration. That is now how future generations will regard us.
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What future generations?
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Given the horrible pictures from Chernobyl (that nobody wants to look at), the genetic abnormalities from this disaster, and the future ones due to Barack’s almost inconceivable stupidity and shortsighteness, I also wonder about these so-called “future generations”.
Yes, I did word that right, and yes I’m pissed off.
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Even Arnie says, Barack has to get new advisors.
I surely hope, for the good of what’s left of this world that he does so, and quick.
I think Arnie Gunderson and David Lochbaum would make good first choices.
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North Carolina up the east coast seems to be the least contaminated.
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Sorry, I didn’t word that right. From North Carolina as you go up the east coast, radiation seems to become lighter according to previous deposition maps.
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What is the ‘safe’ CPM level? Sorry, too many numbers to keep track of. My mom and dad live in Santa Monica, and go to that Farmer’s market each week. damn.
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Sorry to hear that Mom. Geez. If it’s in PEACHES it’s everywhere. Remember when that whistleblower (was he Japanese?) said the NEWS COMING over the summer is going to cause WIDE SPREAD PANIC? God, I wish I would have kept that link. Anyway this is terrible.
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Let’s remember! PEACHES don’t take that long to mature! So let’s do the timeline. Does the timeline of a peaches growth…coinside with 3/11? Something to think about.
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FOUND IT WIKIPEDIA!
Depending on climate and cultivar, peach harvest can occur from late May into August (Northern Hemisphere); harvest from each tree lasts about a week.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peach
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I found this at a peachy site:
The title of this article at the following link is “Where are most peaches grown?” (CA peach ‘heart’ in Reedley, CA)
snip
‘There are more that 1,100 growers in the Central San Joaquin Valley that combined, produce about 60 percent of U.S. fresh peaches.’
http://www.iheartpeaches.com/2009/07/where-are-most-peaches-grown/
More at same excellent ‘Peach’ site, on topic of white peaches:
‘June Peach Varieties
Peach orchards in June are full of activity. … All California peaches are still hand picked, carefully inspected and packed by hand. Keep an eye out for these varieties that are just beginning to come off the trees at your local market.’
Sounds very likely to be local peaches!
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Ripe peaches could arrive as soon as May 1.
http://chronicle.augusta.com/news/metro/2011-03-22/local-strawberries-peaches-come-stands-early
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Chaos Whoopie, is this it?http://enenews.com/prime-ministers-former-nuclear-adviser-there-will-be-broader-more-disturbing-discoveries-later-this-year-there-will-be-a-chaos
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Are Food Shortages Coming?
1 Mar 2011 … The U.S. could be hit with widespread food shortages as early as April, … Evidently not one to panic, Bishop suggested that in …
http://www.rickackerman.com/2011/03/are-you-ready-for-a-food-shortage/
Welcome to the Perspective:
11 Jun 2011 … The global food shortage has already caused prices to double in … food to cause mass casualties, economic disruption and widespread panic. …
http://www.thehimalayantimes.com/perspectives/fullnews.php?headline=Is+E+coli+a+new+threat+to+the+global+economy%3F+&new...
Rice Shortage In Asia? Why We Should Have An Emergency Food Supply
17 Jun 2011 … Are we about to see a massive rice shortage in Asia? … attack that caused widespread panic and shutdown all shops and stores in your area? …
http://theemergencyfoodsupply.com/archives/rice-shortage-in-asia/comment-page-1
Global Food Crisis
14 Jan 2011… Regions most sensitive to food shortages are Africa, India, China, … Early signs of a widespread food crisis are already being …… Dropping of Global food reserves below 21 days would create sufficient panic in the …
http://vsrbc.web.officelive.com/GFC.aspx
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The peaches were not purchased at the Farmers Market in Santa Monica, they were spot tested at a regular market. (the name was not disclosed). Checkout http://www.enviroreporter.com for additional testing results.
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@ lucidf8
Where did you get that inf. on that story of Farmers Market in Santa Monica ?
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how long before all the water is bad to drink? all the fish are unsafe to consume? vegetables? fruit? beef? chicken? what about the rainwater???
Thank God I don’t eat much and have a deep 700 ft enclosed well
Just wonder SERIOUSLY when I should actually start only consuming products packaged before 3/11!
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DarylAnn- Not to freak you out, but I’ve noticed that many items that were available for dry storage or freezers and dated pre-311 are selling out. There’s much less selection. It’s 6 months into the year now…and the warehouses are stocking new. :/
You may have luck with more out of the way locations of your groceries and with wholesale clubs. I try to get organic for extra benefits and nutrition. One here sells large quantities of all Pre-311 organic olive oil (oils are quick to contaminate), organic macaroni and cheese, organic berries (yea!) and organic canned tomatoes. Good prices, too! Berries prevent radioactive damage to your brain. Olive oil and tomatoes are anti-carcinogenic.. well, I had to share my findings. There’s always (indoor) gardens…
The portent of what’s getting into our food supply is hard to fathom!
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..when I say ‘out of the way,’ I mean less trafficked. That’s the case here, anyway.
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From the 2007 financial collapse to 3/11 I had accumulated 25 plus boxes of on-sale canned meats, fish, vegetables, fruit, pastas, condiments, water, sodas and other long-dated storable dry products, anticipating financial and trade trouble, supply disruptions and the needs of my totally unconcerned children and grandchildren.
When Fuku erupted, I tripled my boxes of Pacific canned tuna and salmon (dated thru 2016), and Atlantic sardines and oysters, realizing that there will come a time some month soon when the grocery shelves will no longer have pre-fuku canned pacific fish or fruits and vegetables, which I may not ever be able to safely buy again.
Storing these boxes got too big for the house and everything is now in an AC’d storage unit. I’m looking at the monthly expense as a term-insurance payment: if the contaminated food truth becomes known, the insurance will have paid off.
Be careful what you prepare for may be one lesson, and now we are facing both a financial euro-debt collapse as well as a possible worldwide nuclear food contamination.
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Well, my back-up to the back-up of the back-up plan is Ecuador, Africa, or thereabouts. I actually think that more overlooked, resource-poor or discouraging 3rd world countries will be pretty stable because they don’t have as far to drop. The populace can take the shock.
It’s true that we are having major economic fallout on the way.
Greece is coming unglued and probably taking Portugal and Italy down with it…many ramifications there.. And we’re just waiting in the wings!!!
The demolition appears right on schedule. :/
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How nice if you could think about sharing your good luck with poeple around. You caould offer to share the water and in the process explain the contmaination around. People will listen if you are positive and loving — more than just, let’s say, telling them Oh my god oh my god! –
I think since we will all get sick and die (with or without nuke, hey, that’s our fate), being sharing and loving will at least make our life meaningful. What do you think?
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sure spreading goodwill is great.
Let’s also make sure we have a habitable world and clean air to breathe as well
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The nasty little irony is that the ‘organic’ food is just as contaminated as the other foods.
Even if you have huge stores and have safe water, you still have to breathe the air, and the Earth is a closed system so there’s no outside source. We all get to share in the experiment.
jump-ball, you planned wisely, but what happens when the power to your air conditioned storehouse fails?
Radiation and food shortages also go on for many years. How long will your supply last?
I think that when I read that the plankton off Japan is now radioactive, I stopped worrying about the future.
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Plankton make 50% of the oxygen in our air, far more than the forests and trees do.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/06/0607_040607_phytoplankton.html
One of our students made a graph. If the forest in the Amazon is logged to a certain percentage, there is not enough oxygen for up to one billion people. Other figures show the deaths increasing proportionately. But the student did not know that 50% of the oxygen came from the sea.
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actually, certified organic/non-GMO is clearly better for you per a lot of clinical studies & tests. It actually helps to stay with Organic (if you can find it pre-311=hard, I know!:P) because that makes for less bad things that your lymph nodes, livers, & kidneys must filter each day!! The fact is that our natural detoxification systems are now working overtime!!…and they are the key to our survival & health now.
-trying to help & no, I’m hardly “lucky”-ha! I’m the kind of person who always just happens to get in no fault car accidents or slip ‘n fall that shut down my life-orthopedists love me. But, I know the road back!
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the 6 car accidents, years of PT…or the time I had a sledding accident that made everyone cry in the ER…I just had hypothermia shock and was perfectly fine in a few days. Don’t give up! We’re all here for a reason!
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Most U.S. grocery stores carry only a 2 to 3 day supply of food. The warehouses go a bit longer. With ‘just in time’ everything these days, supplies are not realy very deep, if you know what I mean.
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Decades ago while on a Montana summer road trip we stopped at a supermarket where 50 plus Airstream trailers on a caravan were parked outside: inside the store, the perimeter items of fresh meat, fish, milk, cheese, dairy, juice, vegetables and fruit were gone, showing us how 100-150 people buying supplies for the next 3 days can empty the fresh food shelves of a large market, in an hour or two.
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Happens here pre hurricanes, seen many times, Slim pickens with thing no one needs !
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New disclosure of old info: High levels of radiation detected in Northwest rainwater
By GARY CHITTIM
updated 7/12/2011 10:45:18 AM ET
SEATTLE — A Seattle nuclear watchdog group is accusing the federal government of failing to keep the public informed of radiation from the Fukushima nuclear disaster.
In the days following the March 11 earthquake and tsunami in Japan, the U.S. began monitoring radiation from Japan’s leaking nuclear power plants.
Most of the public attention went to the air monitoring which showed little or no radiation coming our way. But things were different on the rain water side.
“The level that was detected on March 24 was 41 times the drinking water standard,” said Gerry Pollet from Heart of America Northwest. He reviewed Iodine 131 numbers released by the Environmental Protection Agency last spring.
“Our government said no health levels, no health levels were exceeded.When in fact the rain water in the Northwest is reaching levels 130 times the drinking water standards,” said Pollet.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43720548/ns/us_news-environment/
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Right, remember Arnie’s explanations about the hot particles. That these particles are not detected by usual monitorings.
Anyway, there is no reason to panic, simply because panic doesn’t help.
And be ready to get sick and to die, because with or without nuke, this is our fate. Be ready means grow in wisdom, in compassion and love for yourself and others.
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wonder who’s tracking the health statistic fallout so far…….. for the record – many people I know here in northeastern NY are suffering from kidney ailments- including two of my own children. One had to have intravenous IV antibiotics.
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http://www.facebook.com/pages/Anonymous/128798377161188
Anonymous…
The league of hactivists…
Take your time and pester them for the rad data…
They can get it…
Thats where ive been
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god i hate computers! was trying to post this on their site but i appear not to have the option to comment… would you be able to post this? or tell me how to comment?
45% of kids in Fukushima survey had thyroid exposure to radiation
http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20110705p2g00m0dm079000c.html
Please help!
Children in Fukushima are at risk!
http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/04/85736.html
and finally they are on facebook with various questionnaires and comments…worth a view
http://mscr2011.jugem.jp/?eid=4
i think these mothers need all the help they can get…the system is well and truly stacked against them!! embarrasing internal emails from government departments or maybe emails/reports from PR pro nuke organisations on strategies that tepco will use against the mothers of fukushima (pr specific)..you know, stuff like that!!
oh and taco …is this too large to post on facebook?
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Got it up arc:)
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cheers!
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I am glad to see ya Emmy.
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I am trying my best to get anons attention.:)
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I am so sorry to hear about your children and friends, DarylAnn…was the ailment sudden, or gradual? did they have a problem before March or did it develop post Fukushima?
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Damn HP Moderators aren’t letting this piece of NEWS THROUGH!! I call foul!! Peaches? What’s next? EVERYTHING!!!
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EDIT
It went through.
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your a peach whoopie!!
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WHAT NOW ARC? This is bad bad news. I even posted on the MITCH MCCONNEL THREAD (top article at HP)…but it went into MODERATION. I PRAY TO GOD IT APPEARS…to warn folks to warn EVERYBODY THEY KNOW! I’m so worried about the elderly = like Mom said above. We must ALERT EVERYONE! But it’s hard when MODERATED THREADS are there!
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How strange – this one just showed:
RADIATION FOUND IN PEACHES IN SOUTHERN CALIF. WARN EVERYONE YOU KNOW!!
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/12/mitch-mcconnell-debt-ceiling-plan_n_896254.html#comments
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ON my way to a ban for sure. Just sent another…
OT
Wake up America! We are being BOMBARDED WITH RADIATION!! No f**king kidding. It has now shown up in PEACHES!!
Anyone want to join me???
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Somebody just thanked me for the NEWS. Bad news as it is.
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HIT IT NOW FOLKS thread above
IT’S HOT AND MOVING
Say what you feel then POINT TO FUKUSALL!
I”m doing it. No better way to get attn than when a thread is hot and heavy. (not sexually)
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interesting angle loads of comments…hope this helps!
Senate Republican Leader McConnell Folds On The Debt Ceiling
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/senate-republican-leader-mcconnell-folds-debt-ceiling
in the comments section…didn’t like the guillotine video(though appreciated the nuance) but did like this
MONSANTO OFFICIALS HAD THEIR ASSES BEATEN IN INDIA!!
http://www.salem-news.com/articles/july122011/india-monsanto-beaten-tk.php
YAY! GO INDIA!!!
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Monsanto, who brought happiness and bliss to Vietnam (via Agent Orange) has been causing mass suicides of farmers in India.
No wonder they got their asses kicked. They feature highly in Naomi Klein’s book “Shock Doctrine: Disaster Capitalism”.
http://www.salem-news.com/articles/july122011/india-monsanto-beaten-tk.php
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The Vidarbha Janandolan Samiti farmers advocacy group has approached the local state Govt. of Maharashtra to arrange a high level probe of all complaints received from farmers of west Vidarbha where more than 10,000 cotton farmers have committed suicide since June 2005 after the introduction of the killer Bt cotton seeds in this region.
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When news of a Monsanto senior official’s arrival from Mumbai reached the nearby village of Munjala, cotton farmers of the village Karanji, about 140 K.m. from Nagpur located the Monsanto official and took him to their field where a complete failure of ‘Paras Sudarshan’ Bt cotton seed was shown to him.
When the Monsanto representative failed to admit the lapse, he was severely beaten up by the farmers.
It was reported that even a local agriculture officer did not come to his rescue.
This, from accounts in daily papers in Vidarbha and the Marathwada region of Maharashtra where more than 4 million hectares under Bt cotton cultivation are reporting the flood of bogus seed supplied local agents of American cotton seed MNC giant Monsanto.
At this point, although the situation was reported, the administration has failed to take any action of this serious issue.
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PU…I had to leave real quick but will post what you posted RIGHT NOW. Good one!!
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just posted your info PU! Thanks!
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Whoopie, please, what do you want to tell them? Don’t eat, don’t drink, don’t breathe?
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Thanks for link Whoopie. It was a hit at HP…not to mention with 16 pound babies… so lol!
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yes, everything.
Do you use less electrical power now?
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wonder if the cherries from Washington state are contaminated……. hope not
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Interestingly enough, A friends father I know ate cherries on the fourth and got really sick:9
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cool story.
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Why not?
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Does anyone know if the Radiation Network is a trustworthy site? I often moniter it, but it rarely changes and sometimes is out of order. In addition, we all know we are not being told the truth, but at some point they will be unable to hide the nightmare. Contaminated oceans, food and even groundwater.
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what good is crowd sources data when you have shills online supporting pro nuclear companies… (after all theres none here lol cough)
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They mean well but most of those monitors are up off the ground. What’s happening in the ditches we don’t know. Click on “messages” next time you are there. Some of it is quite interesting.
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Seems we have Plutonium-238 here as well:
http://opendata.socrata.com/Government/Plutonium-238-Radiation-Data-from-EPA-RadNet-Radia/wxwh-beqe
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oh GREAT!!!!!! wish the gov’t would have warned me before I consumed large quantities of WA State cherries!
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I love those cherries and eat too many of them when they are available.
I’m confident they are contaminated!
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Hard, so hard, to resist at the market!…
As the scientists say, you can stand being around radioactive particles, but it hits home when you ingest it.
I’m about to throw out some nice stuff on my deck that has a yellow powder on it? I don’t think it’s pollen… I’ve never seen it during past seasons. Would it be salvageable if you wash it off..with Borax?? I don’t feel like dealing with it.
Maybe I’ll consult my local health dept. (ha!)
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You wish your governemnt will tell?
Will tell you what? Stop eating, stop drinking, stop breathing?
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off topic but i found this video and because of the japanese sewage problem at least the japanese wont have to look forward to this scientific development!!
some good news comes out of this misery!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1N6QfuIh0g&feature=player_embedded
linked from zerohedge thread comments above (you gotta love zerohedge sometimes dontcha!!)
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Might be OK with a dab of Dijon.
I’m gonna stay with the glowing cherries …
*Pu239 is now retching violently*
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@pu239 hope it wasnt anything you ate??
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@ Tacomagroove – after eating the cherries did he get a stomach sickness?
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Flushed face low energy sore all over… Looked sun burnt…. Like someone that ate poison.
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Oh dear God.
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I have special news…
I found someone that was Contracted to doing contamination monitoring / Leveling, at fukushima; And He is willing to do an interview…
He is currently on vacation; but I will be reporting everything he is permitted to say here on enenews in my next article…
Data is about to go through the roof these next few weeks. Tepco better tell all before my new sources do
Tepco you have been warned.
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well done, macgroove! Get the data out there ASAP.
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Has he already told you some details ??
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Yes, we want hints, details, ANYTHING,
TacoMacGroover!
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Thank you. It is better to know the truth.
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Looks like I won’t be making Peach Dumplings any time soon.
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“Slurp” !!
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does activated charcoal help eliminate radioactive toxins from the body?
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Yes, so they say!…
p.s. They still have dried cherries for sale at various places…? I don’t know.
I’m doing the best I can. I still can’t resist short hikes and I’m not on the West Coast, but I honestly feel GREAT-perfect health. (knock on non-radioactive wood)
And it’s been good to try to help everyone I know, for what it’s worth. But, you can only lead a horse to water…
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…actually, sometimes I’m bombarding the horse. But, I honestly think it’s a crap shoot. Some people can deal with this onslaught better genetically. Some have less cumulative X-ray history, etc. I don’t think anything in medicine is as clear as day.
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I think human beings, as a species, are as hard to kill as cockroaches. That is why, like any good exterminator, they are spraying the ones that are exposed and poisoning the food supply.
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If you don’t get exercise, your body will rapidly become more and more unhealthy so you can’t win. I just try to get my exercise when the jet stream is not directly overhead.
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I have a fitness club deal that I enjoy nearby. But, I’ll always prefer the outdoors…
Strange how things still look OK, despite radiation. One look at Chernobyl’s forests, although quiet, and you might never know…
This disaster is so spooky.
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an important message from your keeping you informed,you should know what i know commander and chief.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmaF6IOODFc
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check out the comments…anyone got a you tube account and post enenews peaches headline? could be interesting
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just posted the video to facebook and inserted the link to this headline in the commemt box…cool way off reaching the kids…shame about the dodgy ending but hey!! getting crafty in my old age!!
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Whatever real data available re nuclear fall-out is in secret government files.
What I think I know about it
Comes down in rain
Accumulates in food chain
Not evenly distributed like diesel exhaust plume but clumps here and there as radio-active particles move with wind but are affected by earths magnetic charge as well, and some isotopes are oily
Therefore pick a cherry from 1 tree get radiation pick a cherry from another tree no radiation
Can’t trust any government or Mainstream Media outlet as they have been historically minimizing nuclear events
Three nuclear meltdowns not far enough away from me to feel safe
Best to trust instincts as usual sources of info corrupt and untrustworthy
Praying makes more sense then watching evening news
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let’s all just stop thinking and let tacoma do all the work for us. she obviously has the inside info that we will never get. she speaks the truth and nothing but the truth, her word is gospel, she knows all. we are saved, because of her all knowing info. i am so grateful, we have such a character here, so grateful.
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What do you bring to the group? Besides taking pot shots at people actually doing something? If their action does not satisfy you, surely a demonstration of how it’s done would function better than ad-hominem attacks against people merely interested in trying to get answers?
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Do you do anything here except attack other posters like tacomagroove?
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Well, I don’t know what irradiated californian is doing, but we should accept critics.
I appreciate enenews but sometimes I wonder what all the post mean. Don’t we have a real life to live? Isn’t our concern about real life?
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Critics with logical points? Certainly acceptable and encouraged, it’s one of the best ways to learn.
However, before this extended post all he did today was attack several knowledgeable activists for no reason. No basis or substance, just attacks on their character and the validity of them posting anything at all.
What sucks is how much attention it still got, which is why they do it in the first place. I suppose I’m guilty for not just ignoring him but it’s get pretty old getting attacked all the time and watching good-natured souls get stomped in because of someone’s insecurities and ignorance.
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Maybe he works for Tavistock and wanted a lot of time spent on him rather than the issues. I have a hard time believing that he is serious. He said one time that he watched the live cam totally for 4 hours straight and then he was criticizing anyone for doing the same thing. He seems to want to deflect consideration of any report of either an earthquake or an event on the live cam. And his response is almost instantaneous.
I can’t spend so much time on the computer.
I suspect that “irradiated californian” is just one of his personas on this blog. Maybe he just wants to rile people up to spark reaction. I try to just ignore him but I really didn’t do a good job of that today. Sorry.
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Further, absolutely, LIFE IS WHAT WE ARE FIGHTING FOR. We are people who care about an ongoing and escalating threat to our collective well-being. The knowledgeable fols here are one of the only bases for people to exchange information. And as hopeless as it seems at times, we go out into the unwashed masses and try to condense this stuff in a way they can understand.
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Thanks for the reply, please keep the excellent job up.
I wonder, maybe irradiated californian was actually badly irradiated and something wentwrong up there?
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And of course, life is what we are fighting for.
I wonder, maybe we could drop the computer for a while a bit more each day. (That would also save power)
I neam, I worry about the risk that we may turn to live a virtual reality (I am speaking about our emotional reality, not the contamination). We need to be more grounded, I feel, as the world is growing mad.
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Oh, lay off, for god’s sakes…
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That was meant for irradiated californian…
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Actually, I haven’t read most of her/his blogs. I only read what I want to read. I think he/she has been criticized more than anyone on this site.
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More like irritating californian
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or maybe, actually irradiated. You know, it is damaging the nervous system…
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California is a litigious state. Why doesn’t someone sue TEPCO. And also sue the EPA employees and managers whose responsibility it is to protect the public. Use Quo Warranto and rip them out of office.
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I have wondered that also, but most of the Californians I know, try to get away as soon as I start talking about radiation. They are in denial.
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Yes, this sounds excellent. Real action is needed!!! Can the concerned people here organize it?
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Does anyone else smell a troll?
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@nuclear power is death. (a name of truth)
I just wonder what can be actually done. Perhaps just getting emotionally distressed and posting about it and about the increasing risk of getting biologically sick may not be enough.
What can we do? That’s what I keep thinking about. Of course, we can share info, reduce our own power consumption at least. And ban greed from our own hearts. And what next?
Well it is good that you are on the alert here, anyway.
Oh btw, do you know that we are bombing Lybia with uranimum missiles for 4 months? Should I post some links?
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Well, if you’re interested, just search the internet, NATO depleted Uranium Libya. I got 1,740,000 results in 0.11 seconds
Libya conflict areas are being contaminated with depleted uranium.
But they did the same in Irak, and in the Balkan, etc.
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I have seen the stuff about depleted uranium. I remember being in shock seeing the photos and articles to the point where I wasn’t sure it was all true. Mostly because it’s so hard to believe that this could go on without media coverage or an uproar from the public.
I think it’s just as bad as if we dropped a bomb on those people, but the media hasn’t covered it at all.
I think sometime I should face my denial and research the subject again…
I do wish we could sue. I live in California and I would be up to taking action if it’s possible. But again, I find that it’s hard to fight against big corporatiosn with so much money and power. And I’m not sure I can prove that they have done anything except increase my risk of developing cancer someday…
Definitely want to fight the development of more nuclear int his country or anywhere else…
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According to John Pilger, TEPCO is about to set up power plants in the USA. Sue them then. An overseas company is nearly impossible to sue. Just ask the people of Bhopal, India.
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I mean, if they are incorporated in the USA, sue them then. I’d not wait for them to build the nuclear plants.
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http://www.renseradio.com/listenlive.htm
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Beef from Fukushima to Be Tested (Somehow) in Fukushima from Now On, But It’s Too Late For School Kids in Yokohama
http://ex-skf.blogspot.com/2011/07/beef-from-fukushima-to-be-tested.html
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Some people are offering to host Japanese children in non contaminated (I mean, less contamined) area of the world, see for ex. this link.
http://fukushima.over-blog.fr/article-comment-venir-en-aide-aux-refugies-du-nucleaire-78846525.html
So far 39 families in France are willing to welcom 3 kinds each. But the whole think needs a lot of organsaition. They say for Chernobyl, it took 5 years to get the organsiation fixed. Well, 5 years for a child in a radiactive environement, that’s much too long.
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thanks for the link…ive tried contacting the japanese relavent NGO s but at the moment they are walking a fine line to be anle to do their work…it looks like as long as the japanese governdebt denies the severity people cant move for social and financial reasons(discussed in detail on enenews)…at the moment the only type of movement of people is internal, this is political and will be the main reason for any delay….100 mili severts per year for kids is ok by TPTB…lots of info on site and thanks for the link, i hope to be able to use it one day soon hopefully….peace
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I would bet that if they tested peaches grown in Idaho and the city in Pennsylvania that had high radioactive rainfall that the radiation in them would be higher than LA. Remember that even though LA gets hit first and highest, most is not brought down to the ground as they get little rainfall.
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http://www.stormsurfing.com/cgi/display_alt.cgi?a=glob_250
link to Global Jet Stream
Some of it comes up to my west coast of Canada and we are in a rainforest at the bottom of I believe the highest range of North American mountains which catch rainclouds. Have to be a nuclear physicist/meteorologist to figure this out but you might be luckier at your location then me. Cheers
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Toronto had heavy rains in March and April. I expect that everything here glows in the dark.
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Been out most of the day – but you guys ought to read the NEW updates at HP about how this RADIATION will expose our cells and DNA for future generations.
h/t Outnow is the poster and another who is WELL KNOWLEDGED.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/09/japan-earthquake-tsunami_n_893960.html#comments
I have to hit the hay. Been having a wonderful evening with my 1st Grandaughter. Yes I had both my boys late in life so JUST now getting to know my 1st G.Baby.
I’m happy but so sad…if you catch my drift.
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just got your comment hope these links help repost
Chernobyl Heart – Part 4
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UTxYTxsiF8
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJfWbQgXI6w
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGDx3aSxo6c
Part 4:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19Gqetjdukc
This service for the victims of chernobyl had its international support funding cut because average radiation became “mild”! http://www.chernobylheart.org.uk
they need your donations!! peace
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I think they chose to tell us about the peaches, rather than other produce more heavily contaminated with CS137. According to my research, in general, fruit grown on trees and bushes have less CS137 than plant stems and leaves, ie, vegetables. And like I said earlier, I would bet that Idaho, Washington and other high rainfall areas in the central states will have higher radionuclides in their produce than LA.
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I thought veggies like potatoes and carrots are the safest as they are underground
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I have read in several places that potatoes are particularly bad in that they store radiation more than other vegetables/tubers.
http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/4368
http://www.wellwise.org/blogs/steve-hoffman/radiation-blog-fukushima-our-food-fallout
In fact, according to a report published on May 29 by the Japan Agriculture Ministry, potatoes may be more susceptible to radiation contamination than other vegetables. Sadly, radiation also has been detected in breast milk from several women in the Tokyo area, raising significant health risks for pregnant women, new mothers and children.
In the U.S., certain fruit and vegetables grown in California are testing positive for elevated levels of radiation from the Fukushima nuclear accident. On May 16, UCB reported detectable levels of radioactive cesium 137 in samples of kale, strawberries and grass grown in northern California. UCB has also found higher than normal levels of cesium 134 and cesium 137 in foods grown in the Bay Area, including spinach, arugula and wild-harvested mushrooms.
What are the real risks of ingesting radiation?
Eating radiation isn’t the same as flying in a plane.
The danger is that ingesting or inhaling long-lived, man-made radioactive particles over a long period of time in our water, dust, soil and food is very different than being exposed to electromagnetic radiation from a television or cosmic radiation from a plane ride.
Once it gets in the body, lodging in bones, glands and other organs, it can damage DNA and cells for a long time, significantly raising the cumulative risk of cancer. Radioactive cesium 137 alone has a half-life of 30 years, where it can remain in the body emanating radiation the whole time. The risks are particularly high for pregnant women, infants and children.
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Potatoes may be more dangerous than other vegetables.
(May 29th)
2011/05/29
Potatoes may be more liable to be contaminated by radioactive materials released by the stricken Fukushima No. 1 nuclear power plant than other types of fruits and vegetables, according to a study by Japan’s agriculture ministry.
Researchers looked at the absorption rates of 17 types of vegetables and four fruits and found that sweet potatoes and potatoes were significantly more likely to take in radioactive materials than other fruits and leafy vegetables.
The maximum absorption rate of a sweet potato was 17 times higher than that for a lettuce, for instance.
“If potatoes are grown in farmlands where high concentration levels of cesium have been detected in the soil, they could contain more (radioactive material) at the time of harvesting than safety standards,” a ministry official said.
The research, released by the government on May 27, was based on data drawn from foreign countries with a similar climate to Japan.
The absorption rate was calculated as the proportion of the cesium present in the soil that finds its way into a fruit or vegetable’s edible portions at harvest.
For example, if sweet potatoes with a maximum absorption rate of 0.36 were grown in soil with 5,000 becquerels of cesium per kilogram, the agriculture ministry researchers would project about 1,800 becquerels of radioactive material per kilogram in the vegetable itself if the maximum rate was applied.
The study gave three different absorption figures for each foodstuff: a maximum ratio, a minimum ratio, and an average ratio.
According to the data, the average absorption rate of sweet potatoes was 0.033. The maximum and minimum rates were 0.36 and 0.0020, respectively. The corresponding figures for Irish potatoes were 0.011 (average), 0.13 (maximum) and 0.00047 (minimum).
Other fruits and vegetables had considerably lower absorption ratios. The average rate for a lettuce was 0.0067, with a maximum rate of 0.021 and a minimum of 0.0015.
Apples showed a 0.0010 average absorption rate and a 0.0030 maximum.
Under the Food Sanitation Law, the maximum permissible level of cesium in a kilogram of vegetables is 500 becquerels.
In April, the agriculture ministry and the Fukushima prefectural government jointly conducted a soil survey in farmland beyond a 30-kilometer radius of the Fukushima plant.
They found about 5,000 becquerels of cesium per kilogram of soil in Iitate village, Kawamata town, Otama village, Nihonmatsu city and Motomiya city. Residents of Iitate village and part of Kawamata town have already been told to leave their homes.
The ministry decided to look at contamination levels to about 15 centimeters below the surface because cesium leaked from the plant is likely to be mixed into the soil when farmers prepare the land before planting.
It gathered overseas data on soil contaminated by cesium-137, which has a half-life of about 30 years, to a depth of 10 to 20 cm.
“The amount of data is limited, so the absorption rates are just for reference. We want each local government or farmer to decide which agricultural products to plant,” a ministry official said.
The ministry has already banned rice planting in some areas, but has no plans for similar embargoes on the planting of vegetables and fruits.
Instead, it plans to stop shipments if agricultural products are found to exceed safety standards for radioactive materials when they are harvested.
An official of JA Michinoku Adachi, an agricultural cooperative in Nihonmatsu, said: “The absorption rates released by the agricultural ministry are just a guide. But in areas where high concentrations of radioactive materials are detected, we could change to products which have low absorption rates.”
(This article was written by Satoshi Otani and Keishi Nishimura.)
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I am seeing huge sweet potatoes in the market, that i think are mistaking cesium for K! I have beets in my garden at home that are the size of a cow head. This is weird!!!!
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I think this is true initially when radiation is coming down. However, once it is in the soil, it is more radioactive than greens.
I don’t really know. And if Fukushima is going to go on ad infinitum, I don’t know what the answer is.
I’m actually concerned that there are problems with other reactors in Japan that we don’t know about. And as far as earthquakes go, I’m wondering if correlating earthquake coordinates with other reactors would yield any significant correlations. There are so many earthquakes and so many reactors in Japan. What I notice is that there are numerous earthquakes at the same coordinates, over and over again.
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Why? Maybe less contaminated in the hours that follow some fall down, but after a few days, the leaves incrporate the deposit into the plant system so it can reach the roots. Further, rain will bring the contamination from the surface of the soil to the roots, and potatoes and carrots will pump it.
Actually, carrots are roots, and will pump it.
Potatoes are not root but only energy storage organs, so they will accumulate the contamination from what the leaves received from the air.
I would tend to believe that carrots are worse than potatoes. But this requires real in situ measures.
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nice “informative post”. I could say you might be a shill but I actually took the time to read your other posts before throwing such an accusation
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I do believe that underground vegetables in general have less CS137 than stems and leaves. Carrots are probably not too bad, but potatoes as well as sweet potatoes are hyperaccumulators.
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I think potatoes from Idaho will be a hazard. FYI, you can still buy potato flakes for mashed potatoes that were harvested last year…They store for years. Sweet potatoes. (grow them indoors?)
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potatoes are root like plants
Plutonium is mostly stored in the roots of plants
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21412545
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the main function of potatoes is energy storage, not root.Carrots have both function, and are basically roots. I would tend to believe they accumulate more radiation. No scientific data, though, just my guess.
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Plutonium is mostly stored in the roots of plants
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21412545
Cesium is stored least in roots and most in leaves. Fruit is intermediate, but higher than roots with the exception of some berries, ei rasberries which do not store cesium per my research.
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Here’s something about sunflowers being able to draw radiation form the soil…I thought it was encouraging.
It’s the best we can do now, to try to fix what’s already been done.
http://www.care2.com/causes/sunflowers-may-heal-fukushimas-radioactive-soil.html
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Well, I guess I give up eating sunflower seeds now. not that it matters.
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In addition, we have a lot of Strontium in the soil of the states East of Washington and the Nevada test sites due to Nuclear testing in those areas. Most of the US still has high concentrations of Strontium which is readily taken up by plants.
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Thanks for link, Lil. Definitely you and me both are on the right track by doing our own research. I did not know that about potatoes but luckily I don’t eat potatoes.
Going out for nice walk, Good Night
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Why only two peaches? Why not all the peaches in the produce section? Just asking.
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Another earthquake today, July 13 JST, same coordinates at Fukushima Daiichi (#1) Nuclear Power Plant
11:06, 2011/07/13 Earthquake Activity Date-Time 2011/07/13 11:02 Epicenter Area FUKUSHIMAKENHAMADOORI Depth(km) 10 Magnitude(M) 3.4 Area(LAT) 37.2 Area(LNG) 141.0
http://www.bousai.pref.hiroshima.jp/hdis_eng/main.jsp?link=2&menu=1¶m1=1¶m2=0¶m0=3
Fukushima #1 37.233 141.015
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http://www.google.com/search?q=11%3A02+JST+13+Jul+2011+%0937.2N+%09141.0E+%0910+km+%093.4+%09Fukushima-ken+Hamadori&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
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Thursday committee. PLEASE contact your representative and senators:
6930 Carroll Avenue, #340, Takoma Park, MD 20912; 301-270-6477; nirsnet@nirs.org; http://www.nirs.org
ACT NOW!
ON THURSDAY, SENATE ENERGY COMMITTEE TO TAKE UP BILLS PROMOTING SMALL MODULAR REACTORS, NUCLEAR LOANS, AND MORE
THE LESSON OF FUKUSHIMA IS NOT SMALLER NUKES–IT’S NO NUKES!
July 12, 2011
Dear Friends,
We have learned that on Thursday, the Senate Energy Committee is slated to vote on several bills, including its first post-Fukushima nuclear legislation.
Unfortunately, this legislation (as we noted a few weeks ago) isn’t about nuclear safety; it isn’t about implementing safe, clean alternatives to dirty, dangerous nuclear power; it isn’t following the lead of Germany, Italy and elsewhere in ending the threat of nuclear catastrophe in the United States.
It’s about pretending Fukushima never happened. It’s about building more nuclear reactors in the U.S. And it’s absolutely unacceptable.
Tell the Senate now: We will not accept more nuclear power in the U.S., whether small or large, and we certainly won’t pay for it!
There are three bills the Senate Energy Committee is likely to consider on Thursday:
S. 512 would require the Secretary of Energy to carry out programs to develop and demonstrate two small modular nuclear reactor designs, one of 300 MW maximum and one of 50 MW maximum. By comparison, new reactors being ordered by utilities are 1,000 MW or more, but several problematic early U.S. reactors–like Yankee Rowe, Big Rock Point, LaCrosse and others–were actually smaller than 300 MW. Fukushima Unit 1 was only 460 MW–not a lot larger than these “small modular” reactors.
Here is a factsheet from our friends at IEER & PSR on some of the problems with “small modular reactors.”
S. 1067 would waste $250 million taxpayer dollars over the next five years on a hopeless effort: it would create a new Department of Energy program to try to reduce the manufacturing and construction costs of both large and small new reactors.
And the Committee also may resume consideration of CEDA (Clean Energy Deployment Administration) legislation. This would set up a “clean energy” bank to provide taxpayer loans and loan guarantees to eligible technologies. This legislation does not yet have a bill number, and we haven’t seen the full text yet. While there appears to be some improvement over earlier versions (it may not allow unlimited taxpayer loans), it still perpetuates the fiction that nuclear power and some types of coal are “clean energy.” Until these dirty and dangerous technologies are removed from the definition of clean energy, this type of legislation must be opposed. Otherwise, the “clean energy bank” will simply become another mechanism to channel taxpayer dollars into large, polluting and irresponsible companies that produce lethal radioactive waste, destroy mountains and generally are not deserving of any support.
You can take action here to tell the Senate that none of these bills are acceptable. Note: while only the Senate Energy Committee is considering these bills at this point, we are targeting the entire Senate because Senators do talk to each other…. But if one of your Senators is on the Energy Committee (list below), we encourage you to also call his/her office (202-224-3121) to register your opposition to these bills.
Finally, we want to thank everyone who has taken action over the past few months against President Obama’s proposal for a $36 Billion increase in the taxpayer loan program for new reactor construction (100,000 letters to Congress so far this year!). Your actions have been working: the good news is that the energy appropriations bill approved by the House Appropriations Committee does not contain any increase in the nuclear loan program! We will continue to monitor the situation closely as the bill goes to the House floor and through the Senate and let you know if there is a need to take more action.
Thanks for all you do,
Michael Mariotte
Executive Director
Nuclear Information and Resource Service
nirsnet@nirs.org
http://www.nirs.org
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Hey Anne, check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Nuclear_Power_Program
The US Army Nuclear Power Program (ANPP) spent 23 years trying to develop small nuclear reactors for power and heating purposes and came to the conclusion it was considered to be “a solution in search of a problem.” Its not a new idea but your right Anne we would already have free energy from solar energy if we spent all nuke money on research into wind and solar…. What they don’t want to see is a solar panel on every home and one less bill for us serfs to pay.
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Mark,
I wanted to say for quite some time that I really enjoy your posts. You have a good head on your shoulders, methinks.
Btw, “seeing a solar panel on every home”: did you know that there once were solar panels on the White House?? Excellent movie with original footage from the 70′s: “A road not taken”.
Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih7suje9z7c
The world could’ve been different today…
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Carter put them up. Reagan took them down (as the first official act of his presidency.)
Reagan started the disaster. And look, he’s got an aircraft carrier named after him. I find it highly ironic that the Ronald Reagan turned away from Fukushima because of the high radiation back in March. I still feel that that was the handwriting on the wall, and we are just going through the motions now.
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+1
I mean
+ 1000000
However, wanting NO nuke is not only the lesson of Fukushima. There are constantly countless incidents and just too many accidents and all these radioactive wastes etc. Sasying No to nuke is simple sanity.
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Anyone care to comment on this article?
http://www.whoi.edu/page.do?pid=56076&tid=282&cid=94989
It’s from the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute, but several of the statements don’t add up.
Looks like a disinformation article (e.g. no mention of hot particles).
Look at that first sentence below (my italics):
How far can radiation travel?
Ionizing radiation itself cannot travel very far through the air.
Typically, dust and other particles, seawater and other liquids, or even gases become radioactive due to exposure to radionuclides and are then transported great distances. In the months and years after the explosion at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant in Ukraine scientists were able to track the spread of radioactive material in the atmosphere and the ocean around the globe. Within a week after the explosions at the Fukushima plant, there were reports of very small increases in the continental U.S.
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Or, to be fair, perhaps they’re saying that the particles need something to attach to, to be carried – dust, rain, etc.
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I’d say Chernobyl and the worldwide nuclear tests have proven that it can travel pretty far. When you have the Jet Stream involved, I see no reason why it wouldn’t (like radioactive steam for instance. Just because the water form is vapor in the ait, I don’t see how travelling through the wind would “clean it.” Do the “heavy metals” just float the the ground locally?
They have detected radioactivity on the east coast of USA, in England, and in France. I suppose those could be from additional pollutants closer to those locations but the timing and seemingly “random” distribution suggest Fukushima
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You probably know more about it than I, but I think there’s a pretty good amount of evidence that the radiocactivity can spread even extending to the entire world.
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You see how quickly the volcanic ash clouds affect airports which are far away, sometimes on the other side of the world as with Chile – NZ and Australia. Within a short time the ash from the Chile eruption had gone around the world twice. We can see the ash clouds from ISS photographs. Unfortunately the ISS cannot photograph the radiation clouds. But we know from Chernobyl that the radiation cloud went from Ukraine to France to Germany to Britain to Scandinavia in not time at all.
It’s hardly surprising that crops are contaminated on the US west coast. From what I recall of the prediction maps I should imagine the situation in Alaska and Canada to be even worse. Of course it depends very much on the amount of precipitation in those regions since it’s the rain which brings the radiation onto the fields etc..
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A wet spring in Ontario this year means that we got a full dose. I had very low energy in March and April. Pretty soon I can run this computer without electricity, eh?
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“Except for the vicinity of the reactors, seafood and other products taken from the sea should be safe for human consumption.”
That article was written in May. Maybe article was relevant back then. Now its obvious that Tepco under-reported everything. Nobody knows, really what is happening how much radio-active water is being leaked into the ocean.
Salmon which spawn in BC rivers travels all over the ocean including North East Pacific around Northern Japan and I don’t believe they really know exactly where the fish all go. I believe over time definitely radiation is going to spread through the food chain and I don’t think any one can say for sure all fish outside of Fukishima shores are safe
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Mark, does anyone seriously believe anything Tepco says?
They must think that we are children who believe that the ocean is some kind of giant bathtub with the poison contained to one location. Even children learn about ocean currents. And we do not know f*ckall about where some fish migrate to and from. The radiation is in Australia because the whales eat radioactive plankton and poop out radioactive waste. We all get to share.
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Can anyone post again the old link to the Norvegian maps that showed the mnitoring of the global contamination of Fukushima? You remember, when the maps started to show the whole northern hemisphere was contaminated, they suddenly stopped.
I think the important old (a few weeks or months) info could be posted on and again for newcomers or to refresh our memory…
Thank you !!!
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this is quite good, but needs a lot of trawling thru…the images you want are the ones saying tracer h…
http://zardoz.nilu.no/~flexpart/fpinteractive/plots/?C=M;O=D
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i believe moves are afoot to catalogue them all..for your reference the last map showed a heavy cloud of fallout being pushed west into russia by the first typhoon of the season and then the cloud headed south towards the chinese border, also another europran map showed a heavy concentration in mid april heading towards norway. if the norwegians had found out about this the relevant agencies would have had to mobolise the vast testing regime they have in place….instead they claimed all measurements given by tepco were too high and stoped the forecasts..2 points .
the measurements were at least twice as were originally given(recently admitted by tepco) and the forecasts are on a different server..i managed to access the files when the recently upgraded but my computer froze when i clicked on the maps…the dates were up to date as of a few weeks ago, the flexipart is now password protected but still operating…..anonymous did you hear that? chance would be a fine thing i suspect!
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They’re correct – the actual ionizing radiation doesn’t travel far from the source through air.
What your properly concerned about is the bits of radioactive material that do get swept around the planet. These particles travel far in air (like any dust particle) and they emit ionizing radiation in terms of their mass and their half life characteristics.
Its when you ingest or breathe these particles that you suffer the main effects of their radiation – and thats short range – at cellular level. And you get it until you turn to dust yourself.
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If your over 60 you will probably die from old age before a cancer from radiation.
So Eat, Drink and be Merry!
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My grandmother got cancer and died from it only 4 years after the nuclear disaster in Simi Valley. They operated on her more than once and she really suffered. That’s because there is so much radiation all over the place and Fukushima isn’t the first exposure.
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My question is how much radiation have we actually been exposed to in contrast to the nuclear testing in the 50s-60s?
I know that Fukushima has released much more radiation than specific bombs–maybe more than all the bombs detonated above air in the US.
I think the top half of Japan is done as a nation.
Much of the radiation from Fukushima is being relased into the ocean so the Pacific is being heavily contaminated (and it already is contaminated).
So expect the massive fish die off occurring world wide to increase rapidly.
People exposed to radiation in the 50s and 60s probably were healthier overall than people today when one considers the effects of other environmental factors such as pesticides, herbicides, aluminum from chemtrails, and other industrial chemicals.
But I wonder at the extent to which the fallout will impact us directly? Will it be like Chernobly in the US, directly impacting the most vulnerable only (see Deadly Deceipt by Gould)?
I’m not saying it wont. I believe it will, but I just am so frustrated by the lack of understanding of our exposure in relation to past exposures.
It is easy to manipulate vital statistics so we will probably never know.
If you are following the news blackout on Fort Calhoun you realize that the US is exerting far more censorship than Japan has….
By the way, I think we are heading fast for extinction but I think it will take a few generations….
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“Chemtrails”? Are you really serious? I thought everyone here on ENENEWS was smarter than that. Guess I was wrong.
Next thing you know, planet niburu will be blamed for the earthquake/tsunami……
(heavy sigh)
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lokay5: I don’t know where you live, but in my part of Florida airplanes spray stuff overhead in a criss-cross pattern a couple of times a week, blanketing the whole sky. Care to enlighten me about why you think these are not Chemtrails? If they are not Chemtrails, pray what are they? These are not commercial airplanes or small private planes. Sunny days in Florida have almost disappeared, courtesy of the U.S. military. I thought your comment was insulting. “Think ye that ye could be wrong”.
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Reply to NoPrevarication re “chemtrails”;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zReg42czV8
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It is clear that the WHO has been in bed with the IAEA for too long. I cannot understand why there is not a huge protest outside the United Nations HQ about this devilish liaison.
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Dude, the British want ALL Americans dead. They want our continent. They have for 300 years. They can’t understand why all the convicts they expelled and really wanted dead were outcast only to outperformed them. They are EMBARRASSED. They blame our greatness on out land, soil, air. They think we get our courage knowing it is difficult to attack this land…lol. They still dont get that it is because of our love Jesus, the constitution, and freedom…oh well. I guess its time for another ass-kicking.
WHO – they were in charge of trying to force-vaccinate the world over a ‘fake swine pandemic’..remember?…..NUFF SAID THERE. UN yeah. BP – British petroleum fuels. Blew the oil rig (prolly many many more blamed on ‘mysteries’), then used an internationally banned substance called COREXIT to try to hide the oil (or poison) Americans. Then look at Fukushima. What kind of morons would place 13 nuclear reactors a) on a fault line, B) in a tsunami zone, c) right next to one another less than 50mi. apart, d) on the East coast of Japan where all the radiation would bomb USA if they ever did have a disaster??.. the UK elite THATS WHO! Look who built most the plants in Japan. UK. Especially the first ones. Yeah sure, they subbed some out to USA contractors…but only so the blame would be sent to us. They were the puppet masters behind WWII…and WWI, and the civil war, …oh yeah, every war for the last 2000 years….
anyway, better days ahead. We just need to be Americans.
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awesome post, I agree in full and thanks for the advice on checking rads in fish
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Ok Listen up.
Setup an old Bar-b-q with a pail underneath. Drill or cut a hole in the bottom of the old bar-b-q. Check your produce with your geiger counter. It should not tic up any more than normal background which is usually 10 to 20cpm – (clicks per min.) If they read anything more than 20cpm, wash it. Place all your produce on the GRILL. Wash it off with a mild solution of dish detergent and water. Let the water drain into the pail. Use well water if possible (no telling if there is a “terror attack” contaminating city water or not). After cleansing, check again. If it reads below 20cpm, bring it indoors and wash it in your kitchen sink. If it still tics high, slice it open and take another reading. If the CPM picks up the contaminated rain water was picked up by the roots of the plant (usually less than 7″) and brought into the fruit or vegies. Discard the produce along with the contaminated bar-b-q water. If it does not tic up more than 20cpm, wash it again.
Two things will make produce tic up. Rain dust and root pickup. Check for BOTH.
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By the way, checking fish = place a baggie over the probe, slide it right into the fish’s mouth. It should real LESS on the inside unless it is a bottom feeder, like bullheads, carp, catfish, shellfish, etc. If it is a mid or top feeder fish, it will tic up (cpm) only on its skin. Skin the fish and take another reading.
I would skin the fish, boil it, then fry it, then eat it. Naturally place a little lemon and butter…oh wait,… wrong website.
Germs and radiation are the same. Germs, we know where they hang out. Radiation too. At least for radiation we have radiation sniffers (geiger counters). For germs we have jack squat.
be all you can be. Fight the good fight!
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my lack of comments are because my last comment was about torturing some people in nuclear industry and show it to economics graduates.
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Here is the road map i posted before.
I suggest everyone read this from cover to cover please.Opens in pdf format.
http://www.strahlentelex.de/Yablokov%20Chernobyl%20book.pdf
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Powdered Milk also tested Hot!
on 6/17/11 11:37 10-minute INTERIOR average POWDERED MILK IN BAG PURCHASED TODAY IN LOS ANGELES – SECOND TEST OF SAME BAG: 53.3 CPM OR 20% OVER PREVIOUS BACKGROUND
http://www.enviroreporter.com/radiation-station-stats/ (See page 3)
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Right now US and NATO army are DELIBERATELY contaminating Libyan land with DAILY dirty bombing — uranium depleted missiles — for almost 4 months now… and you know why? For the sake of liberating Libyan people… Can you beleive it?
I don’t want to provide any special link, because this issue is very related to very political things, but just search the internet — Libya 2011 Depleted Uranium missiles.
To sum up, here is an abstract:
On April 18, former Pentagon Depleted Uranium Project director Dr. Doug Rokke told Russia Today that DU struck areas CANNOT BE DECONTAMINATED [my - BanGreed emphasis], saying it has a half-life of 4.5 billion years. As a result, it’s called “the silent killer that will never stop killing.”
He also said he “was watching ABC News (on April 15) and, lo and behold, there was a DU impact. It burned and burned and burned.”
During the 1991 Gulf War, Rokke was ordered to lie about its use and effects. It damaged his health, and most of his crew died from exposure. Nonetheless, “DU is so good against all types of targets that (the Pentagon) will never give it up.”
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BAN-GREED,
I share your thoughts on DU missiles, it’s a crime against humanity and it shoes how short-sighted and dumb the military is….as they don’t seem to take into account they’re harming mostly civilians and also their own troops.
But would you mind just posting your opinion in just ONE thread? If you can’t decide, put it into the discussion thread which is not related to one topic like the “headline threads”. Thanks!
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Bread and Butter,
Thank you, I did not notice the “headline threads”. I had instead noticed that all sorts of topics come up in just any thread! Sorry for my posting at the wrong place. Keep up with providing us with bread and butter… (I like your name, maybe I should have called myself “drinkable water”
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Iraq has been contaminated with DU from the hellish weapons we used and are using there, for years. If you view the pictures of the deformed Iraqi babies that resulted, the Chernobyl photos look like Gerber ads.
America has a lot to answer for. That is my printable comment.
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I just wish somebody would start asking the questions.
I mean, really.
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Well, the the abstract above is from
http://cutdc.com/2011/07/06/nato-crimes-depleted-uranium-in-libya-investigation-of-kagans-obamacare-involvement-minnesota-govt-shutdown-precursor-for-washington-armed-citizens-confront-nazi-checkpoint/
but you’ll get a bunch of other links at
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=24367
and that was in April. New facts and even more articles in July.
Although Fukushima is a disaster and a shame that will cost millions of cancers (or billions?) at least it was not deliberate. Our dirty armies are really a criminal, contaminating countries after countries with the highest poisons.
What can we do?
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Back to main topic
Articles on food contamination from Chernobyl, decades after the accidents, for comparison
http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/node/3029
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A UN mapping of the surface ground deposition of caesium-137 released in Europe after the Chernobyl accident
http://www.unscear.org/docs/JfigXI.pdf
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bloody nice links old bean! the map was very interesting!
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Since I am not a professional in nuclear Power. I can only guess what is happening.
I am guessing that, peaches, potato’s, and so on, has already some sort of contamination. Longer this go on, the more we will have.
Fukushima had a horrific nuclear disaster.
Winds are blowing this stuff here.
By the time it gets here, it has probably dissipated spreading out, covering a larger area.
The more layers that keep coming, it will be in the food, water and air that much more.
We also cannot forget about our own nuclear plants and what is happening here. This also contributes to the radiation that is coming in.
Everything is probably contaminated, maybe some things and area’s are more contaminated than others.
For the regular everyday person, I would say, there is no where to hide, and probably all foods and water have the radiation.
My new perfume is, Iodine Tincture. I doubt that will help with what is/has headed our way.
Our water company’s all need to put in special filters with changing them regularly, we should expect our water coming out of the faucet the safest it can be.
We need to build a machine that detoxifies the food, or have shipments brought in where the food is safer.
A different type of housing needs to be built. As for older homes, people who cannot afford in making their home safer should have it done for them, if they wish.
We will need free healthcare for everyone.
I believe that the Nuclear Power and Oil Companies have a responsibility to the people in what their plants and rigs have done.
It’s time to shut them down and help the environment to heal. Be responsible, help the people live the best they can, with what you have brought on us.
Unfortunately, I don’t believe they will do what is right for the environment and the people
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My Grandmother used to tell me to never leave a drink out and sip on it because radioactive hot particles are in the air and they land in the drink. This was back in the 60′s when USA was doing so much testing. She again reminded me of this when Chernobyl happened. I’m always leaving a glass of water out to sip on but since Fukushima her words keep coming back to be careful for hot particle contamination.
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Hi suzie-Q
Your Grandmother was a smart cookie.
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Yes she was, WindorSolarPlease!! She also said to always use iodized salt and take an ascorbic acid tablet everyday for further protection…I wish I had listened even closer to her words!!
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Sometimes I think these old remedy’s and sayings are not so bad after all.
For example:
Take cod liver oil once a day
An apple a day keeps the doctor away.
Instead of candy, take a spoonful of honey
Gargle with salt water
Brush your teeth with baking soda
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…and rinse your mouth with a little peroxide and water! I love that all these remedies are easy and cost very little in comparison to the modern alternatives. I never got into the cod liver oil, yuk!
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I still use peroxide every so often..haha
I never had the cod liver oil either, thank goodness. However, I do remember my friends getting it.
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You can get cod liver oil pills which are easy to swallow.
Vitamin D3 is supposed to be effective against radiation.
—
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/11/081107143847.htm
Our general understanding and appreciation of the multifaceted protective actions of vitamin D have recently entered a new era. It is now becoming recognised that its most active molecular form, 1,25-dihydroxyvitamin D3 (also known as calcitriol), may offer protection against a variety of radiation- and otherwise-induced damages. As will be discussed, vitamin D carries out its protective actions by a host of mechanisms, among these being cell cycle regulation and proliferation, cellular differentiation and communication, Programmed Cell Death (PCD) (apoptosis and autophagy) and antiangiogenesis. As will be proposed and developed, vitamin D, with its preventative/ameliorating actions, should be considered among the prime (if not the primary) nonpharmacological agents that offer protection against sublethal low radiation damage and, in particular, against radiation-induced cancer.
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Things are very serious
The contamination is quite severe and every day releases are adding to further accumulation in soil, food and water and will be for quite some time
I donn’t believe that the real extend of this ever has sank in…….
To put things in to perspective
81 cpm equal 2.997 Bq
The absoped body dose of 2.997 Bq
is 0.32967 microSieverts
The EPA limit is 10microSieverts per year or 0.01mSv/year (milliSieverts)
if you eat all year only 30 of this peaches and nothing else you will have reached this yearly limit
And dont forget to add a sprinkle of alpha particles which are not gamma emitters and therefor could not have been detected. Alpha emitters are the most dangerous when ingested out of all other radioisotops and cose the most biological damage
ONLY relocation to the S.Hemisphere will protect you health, like it or not, we all know it, all else wont work in the long run
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They should reduce, while not eliminate, the flow of radioactivity in a few years…
…or you could crash Cheney’s well-fortified bunker down the road.
(ha,ha)
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