Peak of Fukushima radiation now moving to West Coast — Levels much higher than predicted — Huge red blob of nuclear waste near shore — San Francisco area being hit hardest — Concern over Iodine-129 with 15 million year half-life (MAPS)

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Feiro Marine Life Center, Apr 18, 2017 (emphasis added): Speaker Series: Studying Fukushima Radiation off the Coast of North America — The Integrated Fukushima Ocean Radionuclide Monitoring (InFORM) project is a partnership between academic, government, non-governmental organizations, and citizen scientists to monitor the arrival of Fukushima-derived contamination, cesium-134 (t1/2 = ~2 years), cesium-137 (t1/2 = ~30 years), and iodine-129 (t1/2 = 15.7 million years) in the open Pacific and Arctic Oceans and North American coastal waters. In response to public demand, monitoring began in the fall of 2014, when models predicted the arrival of radionuclide contamination from the 2011 Fukushima nuclear accident. Monitoring efforts will capture the peak of the radionuclide contamination, predicted to occur in our waters… Contamination levels continue to be below levels that are known to represent a significant threat to human or ecosystem health.

Peninsula Daily News, Apr 28, 2017: Radiation from the 2011 Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster appears to have peaked off the West Coast of North America… Scientists already have seen contamination peak offshore and are now watching that apex move toward the coast, [Jay Cullen, a professor at University of Victoria’s School of Earth and Ocean Sciences] said… Offshore, scientists are measuring seawater with up to 10 becquerels of Cesium-137 per cubic meter…

John N. Smith et al., Bedford Institute of Oceanography (Government of Canada), Nov 3, 2016: Transport of Fukushima Radioactivity to North America… Fukushima radioactivity levels continued to increase on Line P through 2015 with 137Cs levels increasing to 10 Bq/m3 compared to fallout background of 1.5 Bq/m3… In Feb. 2016 levels of 137Cs were still increasing over the shelf.

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  • Byrian419

    North America is toast, better get right with Jesus.

    It's the last days on Earth enjoy your life to the fullest 🙂

    • "Contamination levels continue to be below levels that are known to represent a significant threat to human or ecosystem health."

      The 1971 research paper by Dr Sternglass proves otherwise. If this was the case then, it would be logical to assume that the massive amounts of Fukushima Nuclear Catastrophe contamination following into the Pacific Ocean is having a similar effect.

      Quote:

      “The purpose of the study was to determine whether continued atmospheric testing by France and China or potential releases from underground detonations that might unexpectedly escape into the nearby fishing grounds could have detectable effects on the reproduction of fish populations similar to the unanticipatedly severe effects of low level radiation on the human embryo and fetus (2, 3, 4) recently confirmed by independent studies by other investigators (5, 6).”

      https://www.scribd.com/document/258342146/OceanFishingCatch1971-1

      This massive amount of radioactive environment pollution has resulted in the Pacific Ocean food supply crashing! Like the human embryo, embryonic sea life including fish eggs, are hypersensitive to radioactive contamination, hence the large number of reports of seals, whales and birds etc., washing up on the west coast of North America, starving to death!

      • The information in this question posted on Armstrong Economics, points to widespread censorship of scientific research, on the effects of the Fukushima nuclear catastrophe on the Pacific Ocean.

        Quote:

        "I have just returned from visiting my friend, who is a senior cetacean biologist at one of the large west coast universities. While there, he described an amazing situation to me that has alarmed me greatly. He said that research at his university has conclusively identified the complete or almost complete collapse of several dozen food chains within the Pacific Ocean, all within the last 36 months or so.

        Further, in “unauthorized” exchanges with the relevant departments in other coast universities, he learned that the numbers involved may well be more like hundreds of chain collapses in the same timeframe as opposed to dozens. Finally, in talking with authoritative figures in Vancouver, they apparently believe that the figure is likely closer to 1000."

        "As bad as all of this sounds, here is the real rub. Regarding these findings about food chain collapses, mutations, and injuries, my friend’s university has instituted a policy that forbids them from publishing their findings, from discussing their findings (on this subject) publicly or in private with other researchers outside their own campus, or finally from taking “unauthorized” radiation readings as part of their research. The penalties for violating these new rules are severe: loss of tenure, civil…

        • The penalties for violating these new rules are severe: loss of tenure, civil lawsuits for violation of contract, and potentially employment termination."

          • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

            Welcome to the police state..

            • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

              Shouldn't this woman/activist get no less than 20 years in prison?

              She said she couldn't help but laugh when a senator said Sessions had a 'well-documented' history of treating all Americans equally

              Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4471248/3-guilty-disruptions-attorney-general-confirmation.html#ixzz4g9CuEDV2
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              • this has what to do with Fukushima?

                There's all kinds of places to opine on D.C. etc. …
                and almost no place but here to deal with Fukushima effects.
                Try reddit.com

              • US Ranks Dead Last Among 17 Nations Health Ranking – Why Are American Healthcare Costs So High, Outcomes So Low In US, Compared To Other Countries? Root Causes, Solutions, Single Payer, GOP Dumps 24 Million People Into Ditch Via Trumpcare
                http://www.agreenroadjournal.com/2014/07/in-us-epidemiologists-are-not-able-to.html

                • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                  Doctor…it is pure greed on the industry's part..nothing more and nothing less..and how we operate behind the scenes in a capitalistic system. 🙁

                  I showed you the dental costs/charges and the income..outrageous. 🙁

                  People are working for minimum wage and $10.00 per hour by law..

                  Understand whom the pigs are! 🙂

                  WE are surrounded by them!

                  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                    Poor Kid! 🙁

                    Over there this kid has health care..over here.. they would cheer at his death..one less to pay for…hurry up and die.

                    It is better that here we pay for more tomahawk cruise missiles and Nuclear poisons instead of universal healthcare.

                    Prince Harry paid an emotional surprise visit to the Great Ormond Street Hospital to see a terminally-ill six-year-old boy he met last year.

                    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4476984/Prince-Harry-reunited-terminally-ill-six-year-old.html#ixzz4gDvtckXj
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                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      The money is out there..tax the shit out of this.. It is destroying the world/planet anyways by consuming Mother Earth's resources while poisoning the entire planet in the process.

                      Funding is the easy part..getting the pigs out of the way/picture lowering all costs.. is the tough part.
                      https://www.emarketer.com/Article/Retail-Sales-Worldwide-Will-Top-22-Trillion-This-Year/1011765

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      over here they call cancer victims heros. Somewhere there was a meeting where they decided to hold up average joe six pack low IQ victims of the system heros. And it worked! The dudes raised their beers and said fuck yeah, Im a damn hero…before returning to their slave work

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      WE now have a human livestock slave planet run by morons at every turn..some call this freedom.

                      How stupid are all these people..I hear them all over the news.

                      My dentist was not a government run dental clinic..chuckles.

                      He was a capitalist profiteer!

                      A progress consumption tax based on the price of any item would solve lots of these funding problems while limiting the incomes any human could obtain.

                      How much does any pig really need? 🙂

                      9 million for sitting on one's ass..is a great deal of money.

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      oops..a "progressive" consumption tax!

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      What happened at the dentist was legal theft/robbery..nothing more and nothing less.

                      We are all being robbed in broad daylight..by law.

                      This is called freedom! 🙂 Chuckles! 🙁

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txqiwrbYGrs

                      I wonder why that kid would have that sort of rage. Actually, I don't.

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Funny! 🙂

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      Hey…this is far more pathetic, and way funnier.

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      Isn't Tom Cruise sort of an inbred looking bastard (actually, I mean)? Weird that…

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Either your on board or your not on board.. pretty much sums up this clingy ideology.. feeble human minds often seem to need lots of.. clingy help.

                      Our human brains are our greatest gift.. as well as our greatest enemy.

                      Mother Earth is the one that really needs our help..he should eventually get that one.. at some point in his/the/our future.

                      Our own human self imposed import..is part of the overall problem and the more we humans destroy of Mother Earth.. the more our mind and that self import will needed.

                      A real Catch 22 it seems we have created with no end in sight…

                      Quite ironical.. says he.

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      "I may wear the robes of a common man, but I'm not poor, got a heady tongue. I am the master of endless pain, to cause sorrow you know I'll refrain. Saint Paul loved me so."

                      "And you ask your mother for some good advice, but you know they're all disguised as each other".

          • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

            I got told this week that t
            hey would be very happy if I resigned. For 11 years I've been warning a child who wouldn't put away their cell phone but just kept playing with it in class and sending text messages to their friends that it could cause cancer and that they shouldn't store it in a pocket next to their body. So then a student asked what I thought of no books at all but just ipads and wifi. Was I supposed to lie?

            If I ever say anything again, I have been told that I will be fired and I could face a law suit.

            I was told that if I felt the classroom was unsafe for me (emphasis on just me), I could resign.

            You know how much more vulnerable the young girls are to radiation, many more times vulnerable than I am. And they should have a full life ahead of them. I've already lived 28 years longer than anyone ever imagined.

            I'll have to send information to the school board members and members and the city council members and all the news media, because I can never say anything in a classroom again.

            You can't even buy a cell phone in the US unless there is a warning that it is not safe if the phone is closer than one inch from your body. Maybe you need air tubes to type with and to hear something.

            I can hear all the waves in my house. I'm going to paint my house black this summer and put film on all the windows to keep out all the radio frequency waves. Do you have to put aluminum on the floors?

            I've written my email, but a wrong hyperlink…

            • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

              shows up when I put it online.

              Of course, at 76 I can live without working. But I would rather be of use to someone at least once a month.

              Besides the children all know that I really care about them. You can't fool a child and you can't lie to them either.

              I'll just tell them that they can have a wonderful research paper if they search on the internet for environmental health hazards.

            • "For 11 years I've been warning a child who wouldn't put away their cell phone but just kept playing with it in class and sending text messages to their friends that it could cause cancer and that they shouldn't store it in a pocket next to their body."

              I agree completely with what you have been doing to try and educate these children.

              I hand out this free two page WIFI safety guide, to as many people as I can to try and educate them,

              http://sccc.org.au/wifi/microwave-safety-chart.pdf

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                TY, vital1. The child on Friday said that her aunt had already died of cancer and that it was just in her family. And I really wanted to help her, because as we all know that there is a genetic component, but that it is the environment that needs to be the first consideration.

                The personnel person just talked on the phone to me. But when I first started 11 years ago I was teaching in Lyons which is in the same school district, but is a very small close knit community. And when I would say something in class, there would be a student with both parents who were medical doctors. And the student would agree with me. And the teachers who talked to me were very glad what I was doing. And although I started with researching cell phone towers and antennae, the kids asked question about cell phones so I did research that topic as well.

                And Troy Bliss who worked for the City of Longmont asked me to put everything on a disc, so that started my first website. The Longmont paper is very conservative, but they report everything and will definitely report two sides to any question.

                One student I had a couple of years ago told me her friend was pregnant and dropped dead. And I have heard of young teachers and other young professionals dying of leukemia or unknown causes.

            • I have seen a lot of the information you have posted here on this subject, and it has been excellent. Shame the school will not listen to you.

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                vital1, TY. The school I taught at was very nice to me. It was just someone in personnel who phoned me. She said that there was parental complaint, but didn't say if the complaint was against me, or the wifi.

                I forgot to say that I already included in my email the 2 page link you gave and also, separately, a video link about wifi in the schools which was included in your link.

                It is time for me to do something more locally anyway.

                The city owns their own wifi company and I really don't know if they have wired broadband or not.

                • HoTaters HoTaters

                  There really is no reason the schools could not use Ethernet for their digital applications. No justifiable reason for them to expose young people to harmful RF and non-ionizing radiation.

                  Shame on them.

            • razzz razzz

              Suggest you get everything in writing with names, times and dates. A phone call from personnel is only a warning bordering on intimidation. You want to know what infraction or violation threshold was crossed and have it spelled out. Opinions are one thing, facts are another.

              If the city school cannot provide a safe working and learning environment by at least advising and warning of known potential dangers, they are liable.

              God knows in California you can't walk into a building or buy a product with some warning label attached that you could be at risk of some cancer causing agent or other health risks.

              You are dealing with a bunch of fools following an agenda. Kid have every right to know their actions could have consequences, in the long term or not.

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                TY, razzz. She said she sent me an email, but for that account I have to change my password so I haven't read it yet. I cancelled the 2 jobs to teach today and tomorrow. I don't think I can teach at the moment in the face of intimidation. Subbing is a very difficult job and it is impossible to please everyone. There are so many unfilled jobs every day especially at the end of the school year.

                • Cooter

                  e-mail is not a legal form of communication.

                  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                    TY, Cooter. In the sub system, any principal can decide for any reason that they don't want you back at their school. And I'm supposed to stick to the lesson plan left by the absent teacher and talk to another teacher if there isn't enough work for the students to do.

                    And I was supposed to teach 10 days in the entire school year to keep my job, and I've only taught 2 days so far.

                    I'm working on research right now on wifi in the schools.

                  • SadieDog

                    Cooter, umm, yes it is.

                  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                    Disagree..email is a legal form of communication and it has a date stamp on each one. I have used the legality of email communication many times when conversing with shady companies and their respective shady lawyers.

                    • Cooter

                      The key word is the word "notice". While you may have been involved with a legal situation in communicating with "shady companies and the likes the fact remains that you and other parties have agreed to use email as a notice tool and the idea of "legal" is implied and not imposed.

                      https://www.quora.com/Legal-notification-Is-email-considered-a-accepted-method-of-serving-a-legal-notice-on-a-person-or-company-such-as-certified-mail-or-equivalent

                      http://www.adamsdrafting.com/providing-for-notice-by-email/

                      As an inventor I use this links advice on the proper way to transmit electronic notification messaging:
                      http://dearrichblog.blogspot.com/2011/12/can-legal-notice-be-sent-by-email.html

                      From the above link;
                      "The two laws that confirm the acceptability of electronic notices are “UETA” (the Uniform Electronic Transactions Act), adopted in all states except Georgia, Illinois, New York and Washington, and “ESIGN” (Electronic Signatures In Global and National Commerce Act), a federal law."

                      I live in Washington and our State RCW's do not acknowledge their use.

                      Legal: pen and paper signed and mailed
                      Legal: hand delivered
                      Do not use email per-se as a legal delivery notification system unless both parties agree to it's use and verification that said email was sent and delivered is agreed to by both parties.

                    • SadieDog

                      Nonsense. If it is read and replied to, it's a contract. Emails are admitted and accepted as evidence in civil and criminal cases.

                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Then all those online companies are in for a big hurt since none of their online transactions are legal and/or are their receipts forwarded to billions of email addresses.

                      I guess the government will have to refund all those taxes collected on all those online purchases while you at it.. too.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      In my case I have to sign a paper every year that I have no contract that guarantees any days teaching. Also the person was very rude, so I will not resign, but I'm not going to accept any more teaching jobs this school year.

                      I might search for a teaching opportunity where they don't have wifi. I am totally disabled and elderly so I can't work much anyway.

                      The school district went bankrupt one year, I think it was more than 10 years ago, so it is possible that they have budget problems this year as well.

                    • SadieDog

                      "Do not use email per-se as a legal delivery notification system unless both parties agree to it's use and verification that said email was sent and delivered is agreed to by both parties."
                      There are at least 5 things wrong w/ this sentence. Just sayin.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      I have great grandchildren going to school in this school district, so I will pursue the matter as a private citizen and great grandmother rather than as an employee.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      I am also a property owner and pay property taxes in the district. Maybe I'll run for the school board (this is a joke).

                    • Cooter

                      Ann,

                      You and I know that all good business is done in writing.

                      Unless it is agreed too by both parties to use email over an unsecured server or operating platform, any email outside these parameters is not legal (have standing in a court of law).

                      That's it in a nutshell. Protect your legal rights and seek counsel.

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                They aren't fools. There are extremely intelligent and educated teachers and parents. When there was a nationwide competition under Obama's Education Secretary, the school district I work for won over every other school district in the country and got over a million dollar prize or something like that much money.

                There has just been such a cover up on the part of the nuclear industry. But it can't last forever.

                Is there going to be a carbon tax on uranium mining, uranium enrichment, plutonium extraction, weapons testing and manufacture, and on nuclear waste storage? And will there be an extra tax for spewing radioactive carbon into the atmosphere? And there are other radioactive greenhouse gases created as a result of the nuclear industry.

                All industries, especially the nuclear industry need to be fully liable for their operation and product. Without full liability there is no responsibility.

                • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                  I haven't yet red the email, but I was told that I can't tell students that cell phones cause cancer.

                  I can't give reference to my website because it contains gruesome "images". One person couldn't use the word "photo." And then there is a religious reference at the beginning of my website.

                  So if I have to start deleting the photos of nuclear devastation, will I have to delete all scientific studies of the gruesome consequences of the nuclear industry including the invasion of ipads in the classroom, which is completely discriminatory because girls are harmed twice as much as boys?

                  So my moral question is, should I submit to a culture and system that values human life as no more than an insect to be crushed, or not?

                  Everyday I read numerous articles and books and watch videos, and although I disagree with maybe something of everything I read or watch, there is still more value to what the author is saying.

                  Is education to teach people to think for themselves, or just to provide a warm cocoon of a fairy tale with no relation to the real world?

                  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                    Chuckles..it would not be the one where they think for themselves with any rational common sense.

                    Self evident and now everywhere.

                    Maybe instead of trying to teach specifics.. try to create data miners.

                    Allowing young minds to research coaxed topics on their own may bring back some interesting results and open their minds up to the real world we live in.

                    Google and bing search windows/boxes..can often lead to the truth.

                    I can think of hundreds of coaxed topics off the top of my head..and so can you. The best mind is the mind that thinks for itself..

                    Good Luck!

              • HoTaters HoTaters

                Would suspect the school is using a router and operating wifi apps on site. They are likely adding to the problem of RF exposure. So when Anne points out RF is harmful, it may be perceived as a direct threat to them. If they are culpable and are in fact operating wifi and a router in close proximity to students.

            • HoTaters HoTaters

              Can you paint with some kind of barrier paint containing a metal? Something to block the RF frequencies, but so you don't have to paint your house black inside?

              I think Air Sep Tech may have advised on the kind of paint to use. It may have been someone else.

              I'm EMF sensitive, too. Have to get all the Stupid Meters removed near my house soon ….

              There is also RF frequency shielding cloth available to make curtains and "tents" for inside your home, but it's expensive.

              You could probably find a less expensive solution w/o spending a lot and having to paint things black.

              That sounds kind of depressing.

          • Mack Mack

            In 1969, Dr. John Gofman and Arthur Tamplin discovered the risk of getting cancer from radiation exposure was 20 times worse than was being told at the time.

            "We were concerned with simply protecting people," said Dr. Gofman.

            When was the last time we heard of a doctor/scientist/professor concerned about protecting us instead minimizing the dangers of radiation?

            Thank you to the ones who tried to educate and protect us such as: Drs. Gofman, Tamplin, Sternglass, Busby, Caldicott, Edwards, Sherman, Wing, Mousseau, Yablokov, Nesterenko, Mangano, Nadesan, Wertelecki, Fairlie, Starr, Abrams, Epstein, etc.

            Recommended reading:
            http://www.motherearthnews.com/nature-and-environment/john-gofman-anti-nuclear-zmaz81mazraw

            (thanks to whomever posted this link today)

            • Mack Mack

              Dr. Gofman said he believes the 1979 BEIR report was off by a factor of 50.

              And,

              (1) "that all forms of human cancer can be induced by radiation"

              (2) "that, per unit of radiation, there's a certain linear percentage increase in the production of cancer"

              (3) "and that children are far more susceptible to radiation-induced cancer than are older people"

              Read this:
              http://www.motherearthnews.com/nature-and-environment/john-gofman-anti-nuclear-zmaz81mazraw

              • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                TY, Mack. I just finished reading this interview, and I will put the bibliographic reference on my website.

                The Boulder and CU papers are really good about publishing scientific material.

                  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                    L.A. Students Suffer as School Officials Waste Billions on High Tech Fiasco
                    December 16, 2015
                    http://www.indianapolisrecorder.com/news/article_5a03cf0e-a41b-11e5-a09d-13bc6cedfd7e.html

                  • Mack Mack

                    One last great Dr. Gofman quote:

                    "Because of nuclear power, everyone in the entire U.S. population is functioning as a guinea pig in a dangerous experiment. Worse yet, we're being lied to about the fact that we are being made guinea pigs."

                    http://www.motherearthnews.com/nature-and-environment/john-gofman-anti-nuclear-zmaz81mazraw?pageid=12#PageContent12

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      It's really difficult not to believe in the depopulation agenda. And to deliberately cause millions to have cognitive impairment is terribly abusive and criminal.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      being guinea pigs is a lot different than a depopulation agenda. I cant see nuclear disasters as a planned depop agenda…too far out there for me.

                      Im in favor of a depopulation agenda. Birth control and education is the method. Before that can take effect, we will see tremendous tragedy

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      I don't think it's depopulation agenda, I think it's "make people sick" agenda. Done through (certainly not just), crap like nuclear power plants, etc. Imo, sometimes war doesn't look the way you think it would.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      The quote is about nuclear power, not disasters.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      And I'm talking about everything and all toxins like GMOs, cell phones. Maybe the motive is just money and power. But ignoring the consequences which are obvious is something else.

                      And the consequences of radiation are cognitive impairment and lowered immunity and diseases and earlier death and sterility. Induced sterility by radiation has the consequence of depopulation.

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      Can I add government/NGO delegation to that too? Considering those sort of people (who you happily seem to want to vote for even though they're obviously corrupt sellouts) affect policies and such.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      35 years ago in the 1981 interview, it may have been an experiment. But after almost 80 years, they already know the consequences for years. It is an experiment that can never be stopped, but could at least slowed down with out stopping use of nuclear technology.

                    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                      TYPO:
                      ut could at least be slowed down by stopping use of nuclear.

                      So many people have been trying to stop continuing use of nuclear and other radiation technology. But it just seems to get worse and worse.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      having an unintended consequence of depopulation is certainly not the same as planned depop. But of course nuclear bombs are designed to reduce the population…its the whole point of weapons…killing. The question is intentional depopulation. Im not too in favor of swinging around the concept because its speculative and fits into the 'fringe conspiracy theorist' meme.

                      Making people sick on purpose….I wouldnt put it past them…depleted uranium…letting loose infectious diseases to justify vaccinations. But without some proofs (and there may be), its just highly speculative. One measure of financial success is how many slaves are working, not how many are sick. Not so for pharmaceuticals of course

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      Code, think about the promoted diets, the ignorance of radiation, the EPA/FDA, yearly vaccinations, fluoridation, etc.

                      Yeah, it's speculative.

                      Then, when you're sick, depending on what the MDs (marketing delegates) tell you and prescribe, sure, it kinda "helps" in prolonging your life. Maybe some chemo? You did pay insurance and tax right?

                      Good good, those medical bills won't amount to much either, I mean, what's interest on debt? Even if you're sick, you're probably "working" for a bank, or a government or whatever in some way.

                      Anyway, it seems to me the idea is a level of almost perpetual weakness/sickness (and that could be mental or emotional too).

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      yes Farthington, the medical community makes millions on illness. Did Cheney promote aspartame because he wanted to make a bunch of money on selling it, or because he wanted his doctor friends to make money on sick people? How many dentists really believe in flouride?

                      Its a worthy query. FDA corruption has been more than proven. But mass, orchestrated sickness of the global population through nuclear….now thats a stretch. Direct profits seems by far more logical, when looking for a motive…

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      It was Rumsfeld with the aspartame crap, but anyway.

                      Well, not just nuclear, but yeah, that's the gist of it.

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      "millions"?

                      Let's see, big agri (no taint there, right?), food industry (no taint there, right?), medical/pharma/science (totally not corrupt), insurance/banking, government/"NGOs".

                      Those are pretty direct relations.

                      Never mind nuclear even, never mind fossil fuels, mining, etc. But I don't find it hard to fit nuclear (and other crap into that picture).

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      A somewhat telling indicator?

                      http://csimarket.com/Industry/Industry_Growth.php?s=800

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      "Total U.S. health care expenditures were estimated to be $3.24 trillion in 2015, and are projected to soar to $3.78 trillion in 2018."

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      so you think the hospitals and AMA get together with Obama and say, were gonna make a killing, so just increase nuclear disasters, make more bombs (which he indeed authorized) and the mass sickness is gonna make us rich! Never mind us or our children. Obama smiles, shakes hands and releases the nuclear vents. Jay Cullen smiles, knowing full well the death unleashed, and, forgetting HIS children, goes on to say theres no danger. Dont even start with the guide stones. Nope, I dont buy that theory. Is war a racket? yeah, I believe that. Could they hype disease, even release bird flue strains to boost vaccine profits? Maybe so…theyre scum, (head of CDC arrested for child molestation and beastiality).
                      Yes, all the big agencies appear corrupt. Sicken the world indiscriminately with nuclear? Present the info, the proofs

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      That's sort of what I think, yeah. I can't prove that sort of thing unfortunately, since I don't associate with those kinds of people.

                      I would say however as a matter of consideration, that things are sometimes factual or correct, without what is considered acceptable "proof", in consensus.

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      Mind the rhetoric.

                      Anyone have proof fukushima has caused any sort of damage yet? Because I just see a bunch of conspiracy theorists.

                      They seem to ignore the well established facts, numerous studies and proofs about the safety and viability of nuclear fission reactors.

                      They ignore global warming and el-nino and "mysterious" diseases from fungi and bacterias which are obviously completely distinct and isolated from the fukushima disaster itself. Remember, correlation does not equal causation.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Farth…some care is called for. Saying Mandela changed the bible isnt good for anyones credibility. Do you think Obama…or the Queen is excited to make money of their pharmaceutical stock because they themselves have become sick from the nuclear radiation they released for that purpose? Its far out….and not probable. You dont NEED another motive than making money building bombs

                      Throwing around wild speculation isnt so good, if it makes us look like insane fringe conspiracy theorists. The difference between a speculative global sickening agenda and say the world trade center demolition is that there is tons of evidence for the second

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      Well, I dunno about the Mandala effect thing…

                      But yeah. Considering stuff like 9/11 and some of the stuff mentioned. The evidence of the damage in mining, agri, food, medicine, governance, banking etc…it's kinda tricky not to speculate (I actually have stronger feelings than just speculation about that, but anyway).

                      Hey, maybe JFK was just messing with you when he mentioned the shadow government.

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      https://agrdailynews.com/2013/09/15/queen-of-england-uranium-mines-nuclear-plants-nuclear-weapons/

                      Consider, the explicit and quite common dealings and support of NPPs, particularly from government types (Obama, Clinton, here in south africa, etc).

                      Which btw, I consider to be slow release bombs, kinda vague like that, well, until you blow them up or something.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      the shadow government wants you as tax paying slave. I know the Queen is into nuclear profit.

                      So far youve got nothing. The science has the ICRP model and everyone believes it. That means they dont think they are killing everything.

                      Keep going on mandela, and you can replace Byrian someday

                    • q Farthington MacMananus

                      Actually you're just entirely full of shit. I haven't made a single post about mandela effects (you mentioned that, btw) and have argued against byrian about some of that stuff. But hey, you probably didn't notice.

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Farth, if you have intelligence, then use it. If you have some grace and artistry, bring it. Dont just blabber away. I wonder…do you think Cullen would be more or less inclined to chime in, with the Farthington MacMananus claiming the shadow government wants to make the entire world sick…including themselves…for a profit? I know you dont care…but that doesnt excuse you.

                      What do you get out of being here? I dont think you bring 1/10 of what youre capable of. You even seem to revel in your crap

              • Down The River Down The River

                The link to the interview with John Gofman was from GOM, and I urge everyone here to read it.

                http://www.motherearthnews.com/nature-and-environment/john-gofman-anti-nuclear-zmaz81mazraw

                • Mack Mack

                  >>Thanks to GOM for posting the article on Dr. Gofman. It is definitely recommended reading.

                  >>Also recommended is listening to Lonnie Clark reading an oral history on Dr. Gofman:

                  “Human Radiation Studies: Remembering the Early Years” (Oral History of Dr. John W. Gofman, M.D., Ph.D."

                  "This is a reading of the Oral History of Dr. John W. Gofman; conducted by the Department of Energy in 1995 when its director realized the documents and information regarding the Manhattan Project and nuclear testing on human beings not been preserved properly."

                  It is getting more difficult to find this type of information anywhere anymore.

                  Lonnie Clark is doing a great service preserving it on youtube and reading it for anyone to listen to.

                  Here is the first video:

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u-qQkHmqFE

                  And you can find the rest here:

                  https://www.youtube.com/user/nutzforart/videos

                  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

                    TY, Mack

                    • Mack Mack

                      I just want to add a note of caution/warning that Lonnie Clark sometimes goes into a political rant, and sometimes may use some colorful language, so if anyone is offended by that, you may not won't want to listen to her videos.

        • Vital1, cool, Armstrong has a large following. He is a market trader as myself (hence the name), I followed him while he was doing handwritten newsletter from solitary confinement where the government held him for over 7 years on contempt of court, without a conviction for a crime.

          My thoughts, unsubstantiated, is because he gained and hid about $7M in silver/gold, and the government wanted it, and he refused to cave and tell them location. I may be very wrong, but I doubt it.

          Police state indeed. It is beyond shameful.

          Armstrong has a following of strong minded individuals. This will push the anti-nuke cause forward. I have corresponded with him directly, and send his the Chitin Hypothesis.

          • razzz razzz

            The way I understand it, he was overseeing paper for the Japanese and legally parking it for them at their behest. US government said he was trading on its value or using some other scheme as a scam but in reality wanted and demanded him to turn over his source code for his computer program. He refused and was the longest held person on a contempt of court charge in US history for not turning over his computer program. Before his case made it way to the supreme court, he eventually pleaded guilty to some minor charge to escape jail where as he says, they hold you until you go insane, commit suicide or are murdered.

            Running a coin shop in his teens, he found the value of gold and silver was not as important as everyone said it was. I doubt he ever bothered to hoard any precious metals. He does collect ancient coins and rivals museum collections.

            He was well known in Congress and had many rich friends that volunteered to pay any fines, fees or losses his Japanese clients supposedly incurred but in the end there were no losses and eventually all holdings were returned to the Japanese minus his seven years in jail on contempt.

            • razzz razzz

              'When There is no Justice – It is Time To Turnout the Lights'

              "…The Supreme Court’s most anti-Constitutional decision ever rendered implemented a nationwide policy declaring prosecutors must have absolute immunity for acts committed in their prosecutorial role. This decision has unleashed the most abusive legal system ever on the face of this Earth. The most notorious court in history had been that of Hitler where it had a 90% conviction rate. The Supreme Court, has stripped every possible human right we have fought for since the dawn of civilization. The conviction rate now exceeds 98% in the US federal courts. Lawyers tell you to just plea because you cannot win!…"
              https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/rule-of-law/when-there-is-no-justice-it-is-time-to-turnout-the-lights/

          • q Farthington MacMananus

            I wonder if that gold and stuff he "gained" relied or was also related to uranium mining and subseequent fluoride, mercury, lead waste.

            Ah yes, holier than thou.

    • sistahawk

      Huh Byrian419 – Jesus..forget about the Guy – he's away on Business !!! Besides that – this Crappy Religion and it's Allies is who started the greedy deadly Trip the entire World is spinning on Today… Pray to Jesus while you go down the Drain…and Pay for it at the same Time !!!

  • Life is harsher then any one of us can take…

    I am so tired of suffering at the hands of others…

    To be blissfully aware again would be the closest thing to peace I would ever know.

    A very sad and disturbed
    Tacomagroove-

    • Your value as a human being is independent of the way other people treat you.
      What you are feeling now will pass.

      Seek help from genuine caring people in your local community. Their are caring people in every local community, you just need to reach out to them.

      Learn skills that can change the way you deal with life, and your life will change direction.

      Here are a couple of free life skills books that can help you.

      http://technologypals.com.au/free-books

    • Tacoma,

      If DAB et al. is not improving your life (it can certainly improve some lives/thoughts) then cut that shit out. Try some meditation, stretching, real food. Reconnect with your mojo. The world sucks, but your happiness is up to you.

      Sorry bro, it's on you. Scary to realize, hard to accept, uncomfortable to take responsibility. But get on it, soon.

      • Finally got my login to be accepted!

        Ty stock and vital.

        I was feeling very ill today, with malnourished migraine. Maybe dehydration.

        20 days and a new chapter begins; I will arrise to my old self again god willing 🙂

      • Finally got my login to be accepted!

        Ty stock and vital.

        I was feeling very ill today, with malnourished migraine. Maybe dehydration.

        20 days and a new chapter begins; I will arrise to my old self again god willing 🙂

        • *
          We should probably do a member rolecall and health check…
          Anyone else very ill lately?

          You all have my love and blessings!
          Sorry Ive been a bump on a log 🙁
          Prayers and love to you all!
          Tacoma-

  • CANT BREATHE CANT BREATHE

    There's only so much TRUTH gleened today from all the "Headlines" cough BS…
    But I have to ask , Are these counts real?
    http://beforeitsnews.com/self-sufficiency/2017/05/table-of-poisoned-american-cities-total-gamma-radiation-cpm-and-nanosieverts-by-city-and-state-2518145.html

  • Cesium Sponge Cesium Sponge

    What do you think this is – Father Joe's Village?

    The politicians in California, mainly Govenor Jerry Brown, Dianne Feinstein, and Nancy Pelosi don't care about dead sea lions covering the beaches of California – those sea lions can starve for all they care.

    The skies of San Diego are covered with chemtrails. It's no wonder California is in a "drought", when chemtrails are being sprayed day, and night. Seriously, I was at Costco the other day, and I looked up – and the sky was covered with low-hanging chemtrails – it looked like the pilots were playing Tic Tac Toe.

  • What were they thinking? What where they thinking?

    Hello Can't Breathe. Those counts are distorted. Longtime member here named Stock taught me this on April 9th:

    "Bob Nichols does a dis-service to the anti radiation movement. He intentionally lies to try to create fear.

    Although this may mobilize some people, it sets up an easy pot shot, an easy debunk, a slap back from the highly funded pro-nuke cartel."

    https://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2016/01/although-bob-nichols-does-important.html

  • laconic93 laconic93

    Iodine 129???? The Sharks in San Francisco love that stuff!

    Hundreds of leopard sharks and bat rays have washed up dead or dying on the San Francisco Bay shoreline this spring, the second year in a row of mass elasmobranch death in the Bay and the third major die-off in the last six years. But for the first time since an unusual shark stranding was first reported in the East Bay a half-century ago, scientists say they’re close to an explanation.

    https://baynature.org/article/sharks-dying-san-francisco-bay/

    • Cesium Sponge Cesium Sponge

      "Shark tangled in kelp rescued" – is the headline on the San Diego news this evening. Wow, I didn't know sharks usually tangle themselves up in kelp. I'm sure the leaking nuclear reactors off the coast of Japan have nothing to do with all these adventurous sharks.

    • q Farthington MacMananus

      Gonna say it again, but if you were looking for a canary, it's too late for that.

  • Jebus Jebus

    Alaska murre die-off followed by reproductive failure for survivors

    The massive die-offs that left Alaska beaches coated with tens of thousands of murre carcasses in 2015 and 2016 also took a big toll on the birds' next generation when survivors failed to breed.

    There was a near-total reproduction failure last year at all of the monitored breeding sites in the Gulf of Alaska and Bering Sea, federal biologists report.

    At about 20 of the rocky outcroppings where common murres nest, lay eggs and hatch chicks, almost no fledglings were found, said Heather Renner, a wildlife biologist with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

    Murres are black-and-white seabirds related to puffins and auks, are better at diving than flying, and look a bit like penguins. They are plentiful in Alaska's waters, normally numbering about 2.8 million, according to the Fish and Wildlife Service.

    https://www.sott.net/article/349958-Alaska-murre-die-off-followed-by-reproductive-failure-for-survivors

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    "Monitoring efforts will capture the peak of the radionuclide contamination, predicted to occur in our waters… Contamination levels continue to be below levels that are known to represent a significant threat to human or ecosystem health."

    Not the predicted peak..
    We want to know the actual peak.

    This is not a pleasant water color of the shoreline.

    When going to the link ..the speaker is Jay Cullen.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    "Scientists already have seen contamination peak offshore and are now watching that apex move toward the coast."

    What is the difference between peak and apex??

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Forget it..
    Trust this set to define the apex?
    When, and how much ..knowing it's just a lead in to the statement that it is at a level that poses no risk to the ecosystems.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    If this is apex and the rates continue..
    What is it then, uber apex?

  • Jebus Jebus

    What is, how coriums dilute into the Pacific Ocean?

    Ten times above the atmospheric testing era…

    What more does one need to know that this has never happend before.

    Here, from there…

  • Jebus Jebus

    No fishery disaster relief funds in Congress’ $1T spending bill

    WASHINGTON >> Lawmakers on Monday unveiled a huge $1 trillion-plus spending bill that would fund most government operations through September but would deny President Donald Trump money for a border wall and rejects his proposed cuts to popular domestic programs.

    The bill also does not include millions in disaster relief funds for nine West Coast fisheries that fishermen and a group of 17 West Coast senators and members of Congress had hoped congressional leaders would include.

    http://www.times-standard.com/article/NJ/20170501/NEWS/170509996

    • NONE of them are working for us. Maybe 3 of 500….maybe

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        They are working for a very select group of lobbyists..whom pay them off with massive incoming campaign contributions.

        Why Obama was seen playing on a billionaires yacht recently.

        Cattle and livestock like humans should not be allowed any say in how they spend the money they remove by force..be always fearful and then confused/divided by all the purposefully created issues and then pay up boys and girls.

        The few top 1% rich will not be paying many taxes in the future ..but the human livestock will be in many varied hidden ways.

        The theft of all has begun.. 🙁

  • Sol Man

    Right, there is no significant threat to human or ecosystem health, however, mysteriously, creatures (include the trees!) are dying everywhere.

    It is only a mystery to the staff scientists.

  • bf9 bf9

    Remember, there's also shit flowing down the Columbia river, many leaky drums off the California coast, and the current forest fires blowing across the Pacific at the moment. Just wait 'til the strontium starts floating over in significant quantities…truly a mess.

  • razzz razzz

    Is there a sieverts limit exposure for animal life? Background radiation levels seem to apply only to humans and even with that they keep raising the safe exposure limits as more fallout enters the environment. It is okay to have radioactive animals about, you just can't eat them. Same with plant foods.

    The entire makeup of the ocean can be a protective environment. Sea life can hide among plants and other animals to survive. Fish in schools are a protective society in those large numbers. Most species rely on initial massive overpopulation that result in survival of the fittest.

    Seems with this radioactive fallout, there is not even a chance of a beginning.

    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

      "not even a chance of a beginning."

      Nuclear: No beginning and no end. 🙁

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Like the Sun..one is natural through fusion and one is a unnatural fission falling star. 🙁

        Both will last forever..one promotes life and one screws up and kills life.

        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          Because of this poison.. none of us are entitled to Universal Health Care.

          Profit is found in the poison taxation and the trapped human livestock whom must consume government approved poisons..by law.

          Blind are leading the blind.. 🙁

          • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

            Morons are still talking about health insurance companies..eliminate them all..insurance companies are simply another name for a bank…who will screw you..if they can.

            The over run/costs in all cases are found in the charges rendered to all human livestock from the hospital/medical facilities doing/providing the actual butchering services.

            400,000 livestock die each year in such facilities due to errors in the performance and procedures used by the trained by others medical staffs.. 🙁

            • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

              Have to chuckle that no one wanted know about my removal of 9 teeth and the costs of such oral surgery. My teeth are not part of my body and my eyes are not either and therefor they are not included in any health care insurance plans.

              Our fingers and toes and ears should not be included either ..me thinks. 🙂

              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                obe, Im so sorry about the teeth. Lots of people go to Mexico for dentistry and pay maybe 1/3. Just avoid the ones using a dremel tool and tequila.

                Teeth are a problem without a solution

                9 teeth is a lot. Im amazed you kept posting here.

                Hope the worst is over

                • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                  Yes it was allot and with an immediate denture after surgery that acts like a bandage on the top. Ibuprofen was all I needed every 6 hours with a mild antibiotic to prevent infection. Had a lower stay plate too to keep upper denture from rocking..teeth have always been bad since i was a kid.

                  Cost of denture and lower stay plate $1820.00 total.

                  Cost of surgery and time line…actual work performed by a human.

                  Appointment at 10:00AM..led to back dental chair 10:15..5 minutes of nox..10 minutes for drug in arm..surgery started 10:30..Surgery done at 10:50.. all 9 teeth removed and dentures installed. .10 minutes sitting in special room with wife and then I leave at 11:00AM. Done!

                  Cost for the surgery services $3,040.00.

                  Work is work..dentists used pliers and vodka for years.

                  If this guy worked 8 hours a day yanking teeth this is what his yearly income would be

                  Per hour $3040 divided by 40 minutes = $76.00 per minute

                  $76.00 per minute x 60 minutes = $4560.00 per hour X 8 hours = $36,480 per day X 5 days per week = $182,400.00 per week X 52 weeks in a year gives this guy a potential annual income of $9,484,800.00 year.

                  Like I said..bend over.. and enjoy it. This was not work..

                  Who knew dentists were rock stars! 🙂

            • hbjon hbjon

              Banks are in business to make money, take the profit out of healthcare and banks turn away. Who really pays for Joe's gender reassignment? Who benefits by elective medical procedures? The absolute fact is that anything other than traumatic injury mitigation, is an elective procedure that should be left alone imho. Of course, there is much more to know about this complex scam on the people.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    More photos of an absolutely destroyed reactor.
    Never should we go past these images and ask upon the location of the nuclear material..

    Fukushima Unit 1 Refueling Floor Inspection Results
    May 4 2017

    http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/?p=16279

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    AGAIN ..Human's should not be allowed to work in large amounts of time.
    They have no actual concept nor control over any great lengths of time..

    Nuclear Waste: Planning for the Next Million Years
    May 4 2017

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/05/04/nuclear-waste-planning-for-the-next-million-years/

    With continued production .. even a million years will not be long enough.
    There is no point of return..

  • jec jec

    Image looks similar to one I shared with Majia a couple weeks ago. The "Hot Blob" that is being blamed on climate change..is really that, but from Fukushima, not from our fireplaces! There is no way even Al Gores request for 15 TRILLION dollars can fix the blob, unless a solution is found to put the 'genie back in the box' we created with nuclear energy. By the way, think good old Al has lost it..

    • jec jec

      Al is just running of CARBON funds, now looking for a few more good dollars. As to CARBON, a huge lake of molten carbon was found under the western USA..1/2 of usa covered. Its 217 miles deep. A blob in its own way.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Carbon tax.
    Elon Musk in his brilliance thinks..

    "So, why a carbon tax? Carbon taxes aim to apply the cost of the carbon that was put into the atmosphere… to the product that was produced. So, if the energy you used today was produced by burning natural gas, which put 3.2lbs of CO2 into the atmosphere, you should pay for that CO2 and the impact it has on the planet. Applying equitably priced carbon taxes will act as a forcing function to encourage the use of sustainable energy, which by definition has an unlimited supply (at least for the next billion years)."

    Elon Musk Speaks In France During COP21 Talks (VIDEO)
    Dec 3 2015.

    https://cleantechnica.com/2015/12/03/elon-musk-speaks-france-cop21-talks-video/

    Forcing function?
    It will be like the tax on marijuana, very profitable ..why would the government walk away from that?

  • earthsmith earthsmith

    Tax, credit…doesn't matter the substance. It's a traders game. Trading life for greed.
    Musk on Mars…it's cool. Not.
    How about humans on earth first….just to difficult to rationalize for the average scatter brain.
    While the stars dance, humans wasted their only chance.

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Got Gorilla Glue all over my fingers gluing the soles back on my work shoes. It's a very uncomfortable feeling.

    Got some on my calves. Pulling a couple of big blobs ripped the hair out. Man, you can get the stuff off, but it takes a layer of skin off. Still, preferable to reading Jay Cullen's propaganda.

    Very similar feeling, this slow nuclear poisoning unfolding amidst obfuscations and denials.

    Gorilla Glue is not an immediate threat to public health. But my leg itches and my fingers are feel real creepy. All in all annoying.

    A poem in there somewhere

  • Sol Man

    They've got to kill it so they can save it?

  • GOM GOM

    "Red Blob"??
    Burned on the Beach??
    Igniting Beach Rocks?
    San Onofre denial??

    Nuclear accident

    ..pure beta-particle emitters (hydrogen-3, phosphorus-32, strontium-90, yttrium-90, yttrium-91 and promethium-147). /Tritium, phosphorus-32, strontium-90, yttrium-90, promethium-147

    Phosphorus-32 is Red.


    Woman apparently burned by phosphorous-coated beach rocks

    http://www.cbs8.com/story/18502419/phosphorous-on-beach-rocks-may-have-caused-womans-pants-to-catch-on-fire

  • GOM GOM

    Phosphorus As A Tracer

    A radioactive tracer, or radioactive label, is a chemical compound in which one or more atoms have been replaced by a radioisotope so by virtue of its radioactive decay it can be used to explore the mechanism of chemical reactions by tracing the path that the radioisotope follows from reactants to products. Radiolabeling is thus the radioactive form of isotopic labeling.

    **Radioisotopes of hydrogen,carbon, phosphorus, sulphur, and iodine have been used extensively to trace the path of biochemical reactions. 

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioactive_tracer

  • Jebus Jebus

    Where have all the sea stars gone?

    AMS analyses of I-129 from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear accident in the Pacific Ocean waters of the Coast La Jolla – San Diego, USA April 2015

    https://dunrenard.wordpress.com/2017/01/23/ams-analyses-of-i-129-from-the-fukushima-daiichi-nuclear-accident-in-the-pacific-ocean-waters-of-the-coast-la-jolla-san-diego-usa-april-2015/

    AMS analyses of I-129 from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear accident in the Pacific Ocean waters of the Coast La Jolla – San Diego, USA

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/275056726_AMS_analyses_of_I-129_from_the_Fukushima_Daiichi_nuclear_accident_in_the_Pacific_Ocean_waters_of_the_Coast_La_Jolla_-_San_Diego_USA

    Ya, call it out…

    Mass Mortality among Rocky Shore Invertebrates across 100 km of Northeastern Pacific Coastline- Peer Reviewed Article

    https://miningawareness.wordpress.com/2015/11/09/mass-mortality-among-rocky-shore-invertebrates-across-100-km-of-northeastern-pacific-coastline-peer-reviewed-article/comment-page-1/

    This post explains why Buesseler’s testing method is not the best way, and Jay Cullen-WHOI’s funding-partnership ties to the nuclear/uranium mining and defense-defence depts/industry:

    https://miningawareness.wordpress.com/2015/11/08/radionuclides-in-sediment-vs-seawater-and-in-plankton-marine-invertebrates-e-g-sea-stars/

  • nuke shill, Jay Cullen found out about the forest fires around Fukushima –
    https://twitter.com/JayTCullen/status/859467062921404418

    • SadieDog

      May 2nd, Please explain.

      • SadieDog

        mt1000, can you tell me in one post why Cullen is a fraud? Please. Thank you.

        • Jebus Jebus

          He isn't a fraud, he is a professional.

          🙂 Nice try…

          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            pros like Cullen will have an endless reserve of studies to argue their point or debunk yours. This makes them feel like they have the upper hand on truth. It turns out the pros may be wrong more than 2/3 of the time
            "A rule of thumb among biotechnology venture-capitalists is that half of published research cannot be replicated. Even that may be optimistic. Last year researchers at one biotech firm, Amgen, found they could reproduce just six of 53 “landmark” studies in cancer research. Earlier, a group at Bayer, a drug company, managed to repeat just a quarter of 67 similarly important papers. A leading computer scientist frets that three-quarters of papers in his subfield are bunk. In 2000-10 roughly 80,000 patients took part in clinical trials based on research that was later retracted because of mistakes or improprieties."

            http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21588069-scientific-research-has-changed-world-now-it-needs-change-itself-how-science-goes-wrong

            http://reason.com/blog/2015/08/28/study-finds-studies-are-wrong

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              Cullen, put this in your pipe and smoke it;

              'Simulations show that for most study designs and settings, it is more likely for a research claim to be false than true. Moreover, for many current scientific fields, claimed research findings may often be simply accurate measures of the prevailing bias.'

              Why Most Published Research Findings Are False
              https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1182327/

              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                its the conceit. Pros like Cullen and Buesseler….less so with Buesseler,…dont seem to have a concern for the mass die offs. They instead seem contented and even conceited, riding on their status and education. Heres something about the educated; Before Einstein, 100% of educated scientests were wrong about time and space. Before Semmelweis, 100% of doctors were wrong on hygiene.

                Make no mistake, Cullen is a smart guy. A very smart guy who stands a high chance of being wrong. But I know nobody here can argue with him.

              • Jebus Jebus

                Exactly, he is a professional…

                Has ten Bqm3 of C-134 ever been measured before on the west coast?

                Could it be more than the stated peak or apex?

                What is the sum of all the parts?

                Why not sediments, creatures, besides kelp and water?

                How many isotopes are present?

                When will it end?

                • Jebus Jebus

                  Excuse me, has ten Bqm3 of C-137 been measured before on the west coast?

                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  Jebus, I think there has been measured 60 bq/m3 in the black sea. 10 bq in the pacific from Fukushima has been measured for a few years.

                  Your good point is the sum of all factors.

                  My focus is that becquerel counting is all but useless, as per the findings of the ECRR. If 10 bq of man made fallout is equal to 10,000 bq of background radiation (Busby, more or less), then that becomes perhaps the largest important variable; toxicity! Add in the fact that the toxicity of the various background sources, especially k-40 is not well established and very likely less than assumed (here comes the Dr), then you have the crux of the argument. Sticking with the standard dose model means losing to Cullen and the like…no doubt about it

                  • Jebus Jebus

                    I understand. There were also the tsunami chemicals unknown that are never mentioned. They certainly spread out and no doubt lethal.

                    It is not necessary to kill everything in an ecosystem to break it in cascading waves.

                    Jay responds…

                    Jay T. Cullen‏ @JayTCullen 2h2 hours ago
                    Replying to @RattleShark @ENENews

                    Well I am replying…I hope you read. Will continue looking into it. #Fukushima highly improbable as cause

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Cullens reply is predictable and maddening. It is firmly ingrained in his brain that a becquerel is a becquerel, give or take a factor of 20. For Jay to begin to accept the possibility that the largest oceanic release of man made fallout is affecting the life, his entire thought process…including his ego…needs to change. I tried it with anti nukers and it didnt catch, how will it work on the main-streamers? They have heard, and have an EMOTIONAL BIAS, that Busby et al have been firmly debunked. This back and forth debunking is a losing proposition.

                      The only hope is emerging scientists. I was hoping one or two might happen upon ENEnews…but that dream was smashed to pieces by our steadfast authorship. No need for names

                    • Jebus Jebus

                      Yes, ego's are a big factor as everyone looks down at the creatures rolling in the surf…

                    • Jebus Jebus

                      Here's a curious point.

                      Why can't they figure out what is killing all the creatures, now?

                      http://www.pnas.org/content/112/4/1083/F4.large.jpg

                      Seem to know what it was then…

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      moreover, starvation, toxicity, multiple stressor, biotoxicity and disease can all be caused by nuclear fallout.

                      I think its a free for all…within the confines of the science community status quo. I bet you global warming is added to the list, and nuke fallout is never added. Did they mention that people ate them all too? Science run by dufii is prone to error!

                    • 😐 +1

                      "moreover, starvation, toxicity, multiple stressor, biotoxicity and disease can all be caused by nuclear fallout." – CodeShutdown

                      Not to mention DNA damage, lower birth rates and long term generational damage.

                      IMO – Anyone that claims Fuku has absolute ZERO relationship to what's going on in our oceans is more than just an idiot.

                      So, IF we can agree that some of Fuku is an issue, then it becomes a debate on 'how much' of an issue.

                      ➡ ANY AMOUNT SUCKS! That's the simple, easy to understand answer.

                      Fuku is ongoing, X3. The onslaught of various radioactive contamination transport vectors will continue. It is accumulating and will continue to so in ways that are hard to imagine.

                      Our brains are 'wired' so that FACT = TRUTH, but if the facts become convoluted or unclear, it makes establishing what is truth more difficult. The Pro Nuclear Nut-jobs know this and use it to their advantage whenever possible.

                  • Jebus Jebus

                    And here is his supporting evidence.

                    Jay T. Cullen‏ @JayTCullen 2h2 hours ago
                    Replying to @JayTCullen @RattleShark @ENENews

                    1/n Peer reviewed paper documenting increases in mass mortality event frequency that began in 1940. Not #Fukushima http://www.pnas.org/content/112/4/1083.full

                    Recent shifts in the occurrence, cause, and magnitude of animal mass mortality events

                    http://www.pnas.org/content/112/4/1083.full

                    Now, think about those graphs…

                    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_CJrlDUwAAGQS2.jpg

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      how does Jays first one rule out Fukushima?: " the increase in MMEs appears to be associated with a rise in disease emergence, biotoxicity, and events produced by multiple interacting stressors"

                      How about the second article (peer reviewed? not) with its huge bias; " Alarmist fringe sites" worried about Fukushima. No science except the regurgitation of the failed standard dose model

                      How about his third proof? It shows a high correlation of extreme mortality events with the onset of the nuclear era, something completely lost on them. Then something pops out…the invertebrates, showing almost no mortality after yr 2000. What about the sea stars? This is bad science, and frankly beneath even Jay….

                    • Jebus Jebus

                      Ya, there wasn't a current event on those graphs…

                      If one says atmospheric testing and chernobyl while looking at them, the names almost appear…

                    • Jebus Jebus

                      http://www.pnas.org/content/112/4/1083.full

                      Looks like not one single author, out of nine, has more than that single paper submitted to PNAS…

                    • Jebus Jebus

                      Ah, I see now. It's just the author page that shows a singular submission…

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Interesting Jebus.
                      Its a study without a conclusion. For example, if turtles…or sharks…have been nearly decimated (up to 90% for many species) then naturally you would see less mass mortality events. I bet we wont be seeing any sea star mass mortality events for a while….theyre already dead! Yet thats their criterion implied for health of species. Cant fix stooopid

                    • Jebus Jebus

                      I always thought that science was ultimately flat out logic.

                      Seems something's changed hands…

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      the science meme is 'trust us, were scientists and youre an idiot'

                      such conceit

                      They die before you can say I told you so

                    • Jebus Jebus

                      So do their children…

            • He's a public relations front man for Stratfor like the rest of them.
              He uses his science vocabulary to steer the public into accepting his masters' nuke garbage.
              He is all tied to the nuke industry as pointed out in earlier link.

        • Sadie, because he trolls me. Therefore he is the opposition, and therefore wrong.

          Now I am conceited as the "pros" LOL

        • well, since you asked –
          Recapping Jay Cullen’s Nuke Industry Ties

          http://flyingcuttlefish.wordpress.com/2015/11/11/recapping/

        • Why Jay Cullen And (WHOI) Woods Hole; Ken Buesseler Ocean Water Testing For Radiation May Not Be Worth Supporting Financially – Are They Complicit In Cover Up Of Fukushima Mega Nuclear Disaster?
          http://www.agreenroadjournal.com/2014/08/why-whoi-woods-hole-and-ken-buesseler.html

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      Didn't they just OK refugees to return to Namie? Ah, life in Namie…

      Parody of Green Acres

      Black Acres is the place to be
      Radioactive livin' is the life for me.
      Fallout spreadin' out so far and wide
      Keep Manhattan, just give me that countryside.

      New York is where I'd rather stay.
      I get allergic smelling Juman-yama hay.
      I just adore a Indian Point view.
      Dah-ling I love you but give me nuke revenue.

      …The chores.
      …The stores.
      …Fresh air (A-hem).
      …Times Square

      You are my wife.
      Good bye, city life.
      Black Acres we are there.

    • LOL
      You are blocked from following @JayTCullen and viewing @JayTCullen's Tweets. Learn more

      Cullen trolls me but doesn't even want me to see his tweets, lol

  • They do not use the inventory from the meltdowns or spent fuel pools just the admitted few days release . All 4 reactors and building blew up caught fire and lost their entire 40 year radioactive inventory's . You people spend all your time parading and supporting liars when the truth is right in front of you is heartbreaking and demoralizing . Hugs

  • Mack Mack

    Enenews admin posted a link (above) to a pdf-report from "John N. Smith et al., Bedford Institute of Oceanography (Government of Canada)"

    Everyone please click on the pdf link

    Go to page 2

    On page 2 of the pdf report, it says:

    "Casualties – Tsunami: 18,500
    Chernobyl – 40
    Fukushima – 0"

    Is that stating that 40 people died from Chernobyl and 0 died from Fukushima?

    If so, that's not what I've learned through my research. How about all of you?

      • Mack Mack

        Most of you know this but I'll post this again in case someone new is reading:

        >>Dr. Yablokov, a premier researcher on Chernobyl, has stated:

        * there was total secrecy/falsification of medical statistics of Chernobyl for first 3 1/2 years after catastrophe

        * there are one million less girls because of Chernobyl (genetics)

        * infant mortality jumped in Germany, Poland, Finland, Sweden, Switzerland

        * 4% increased mortality from 1990 to 2004 in Belarus, Ukraine, European Russia

        * no one has ever shown Dr. Yablokov any mistakes in his calculations

        >>Dr. Starr stated, due to Chernobyl:

        * In Belarus – 45 to 47% of high school graduates had physical disorders (gastro-intestinal, weakened hearts, cataracts)

        • 40% had chronic “blood disorders” and malfunctioning thyroids

        >>Dr. Wertelecki stated, due to Chernobyl:

        * Sweden/Norway study found increase in cognitive insufficiencies of those in utero at time of Chernobyl

        * From Chernobyl, they also see also teratomos, conjoined twins, mocrophthalmia, ntd

        http://enenews.com/watch-live-stream-fukushima-event-nyc

    • Somethin is wrong with that math…

      Hang on I got one…

      https://youtu.be/1MWq6L19eNo

      HeHeHe… 🙂

      • unincredulous unincredulous

        They need to revamp the "Get Smart" series, having Maxwell Smart looking for Weapons of Mass Distraction around Fukushima.

        Turning over lead plates between the reactors, Maxwell gets that silly look on his face and passes out. Nope, nothing under there! Skulking about in reactor four, he can't find MIT, Yale, or Harvard, nor anyone. Just a few fried robots. The phone in his shoe is fried. Chaos!

        "No immediate harm to public health" on his tombstone. Everything is under control.

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      "0" is a very disrespectful way to refer to the dead from Fukushima Daiichi. Shame !

  • What were they thinking? What where they thinking?

    Hey Sol Man! I've searched for Arto Lauri's presentation here, but can't find it. Do you have a link?

  • * there was total secrecy/falsification of medical statistics of Chernobyl for first 3 1/2 years after catastrophe

    * there are one million less girls because of Chernobyl (genetics)

    * infant mortality jumped in Germany, Poland, Finland, Sweden, Switzerland

    * 4% increased mortality from 1990 to 2004 in Belarus, Ukraine, European Russia

    * no one has ever shown Dr. Yablokov any mistakes in his calculations

    <a href="http://www.estetikist.com/&quot; title="saç ekimi">Saç Ekimi</a>

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    "Researchers have tested roughly 400 sockeye salmon and steelhead from rivers across the North American West Coast and only found one fish with the “fingerprint” isotope, Cullen said."

    What, they tested 400 sockeye and steelhead? Are there that many left?

    Hey Dana, if Enenews does not feature fake news from Jay Cullen, how are we going to make fun of him? U can't answer because the law has a gag in your mouth. I'll answer for you: Fuck Jay Cullen. You're welcome

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Most of the salmon that would test positive for unhealthy levels of radionuclides are obviously dead!

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    ""Researchers have tested roughly 400 sockeye salmon and steelhead from rivers across the North American West Coast and only found one fish with the “fingerprint” isotope, Cullen said."

    This test with ..'Cullen results' was done how many years ago now..3-4?
    Where is the new up- to -date testing?
    Never mind not from this crowd….

    2017 sockeye forecast weak for Cook Inlet
    4/25/2016

    http://peninsulaclarion.com/news/local/2017-04-25/2017-sockeye-forecast-weak-cook-inlet

    Mid-Columbia spring chinook fishing to close
    May 2 2017

    http://www.columbian.com/news/2017/may/02/mid-columbia-spring-chinook-fishing-to-close/

    How to fix the ocean conditions..? Add more fish..
    I feel sick..

    Check Out This Hypnotic Video Of A Pipe Full Of Baby Salmon
    May 1 2017

    http://sfist.com/2017/05/01/check_out_this_hypnotic_video_of_a.php

    Test the ones that are still alive, man!

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    RANT..
    I feel sick.
    Every time I think we might reach the apex of ignorance, the apex only heightens.

  • What were they thinking? What where they thinking?

    Thanks Dr. Anne. So, a newbie question for you. I watched the video. In a nutshell, is he saying that since P-239 was released, it caused a shutdown of the other 54 reactors in Japan? Others too around the globe? Do we have anything else to back that up?

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

      I don't know what video you are talking about. The reactors shut down in Japan were shut down because the earthquake caused extensive damage to all of them and they couldn't pass their safety checks.

      It is impossible to safely put up any nuclear reactor anywhere in the world because nuclear isn't ever a safe technology. This is especially true in Japan which has historically seen huge earthquakes and huge tsunamis.

      Japan has a long and extensive history of falsifying safety checks. Nuclear reactors are constructed to only last 20 years. But they are so expensive, licenses kept getting renewed putting the whole world at risk.

      Money trumps common sense and rationality with the powers in charge.

  • Cooter

    I posted this before about I-129;

    https://healfukushima.org/2016/02/20/iodine-129-and-131-what-are-the-hazards/ This post has great links.

    “Due to its long half-life and continued release from ongoing nuclear energy production, Iodine-129 is perpetually accumulating in the environment and poses a growing radiological risk,” the authors of a study at Dartmouth point out.[4]"

    "The production rate of these two isotopes in a nuclear reactor occurs at a fixed ratio of 3 parts iodine-131 to one part iodine-129. The two substances travel together, so the presence of the easily detectable isotope also signals the presence of the longer-lived one. “If you have a recent event like Fukushima, you are going to have both present. The iodine-131 is going to decay away pretty quickly over the course of weeks, but the iodine-129 is there forever, essentially,” Joshua Landis, a research associate in the Department of Earth Science at Dartmouth explains, “Once the iodine-131 decays, you lose your ability to track the migration of either isotope.”

    From BobbyI's blog:
    http://optimalprediction.com/31-times-as-much-iodine-129-than-i-131-from-fukushima/
    "A recent article published in the Geochemical Journal (available here) by Miyake et al. has found that there was 31.6 times as much iodine-129 than iodine-131 released in the early days of the Fukushima catastrophe."

    So I-129 can be absorbed into your thyroid and there is no way to tell if it is there and in what quantity.

  • Mack Mack

    Stephen Hawking says "Humans Must Leave Earth Within 100 Years to Ensure Survival"

    http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/stephen-hawking-humans-leave-earth/2017/05/03/id/787961/

    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

      From your link, Mack.

      ""Although the chance of a disaster to planet Earth in a given year may be quite low, it adds up over time, and becomes a near certainty in the next thousand or ten thousand years. By that time we should have spread out into space, and to other stars, so a disaster on Earth would not mean the end of the human race. However, we will not establish self-sustaining colonies in space for at least the next hundred years, so we have to be very careful in this period."

      Are Humans being careful? … quite the opposite.
      I'm really not sure sending the Human mindset into space is a great idea.

      • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

        Hawking points to our fragile planet.
        He fails to point out what Humans have done to it, as if the fault lie in the Earth's inability to sustain us.

      • Mack Mack

        Exactly, Heart. Sending the same like-minded people onto other planets — who think it's okay to pollute Earth's land and water with plutonium and other radionuclides — is going to have the same results of polluting any new planets.

        They want nuclear power plants on the moon and Mars, space probes powered with Pu-238, etc.

        What's that expression about the definition of insanity…doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result…

      • DUDe DUDe

        "..However, we will not establish self-sustaining colonies in space for at least the next hundred years.."

        If we can't do it HERE.., were the conditions are carefully optimized for our biology to be sustained..one could say most of the work is being done for us..all we have to do is respect some basic common sense and mutual symbiotic balances..we wont do it anywhere..let alone where conditions are not optimized for us , we will shortcut by destruction to violently bend it our way in the short run..further destroying the possibility for long-term sustainability..not only for ourselfes but FOR ANYTHING that HAD a change before we arrived..

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Shill work coming it fast and heavy.
    Shills from Norway ..cut off the reads.
    Just an x-ray ..it's all good..
    Oh, ya..but maybe a few animals dies or mutated.

    Radioactive Iodine-131 USA Forecasts (to May 13)
    July 3 2011

    https://globalcooperative.wordpress.com/2011/07/03/radioactive-iodine-131-usa-forecasts-to-may-13/

    "“More than 80 per cent of the radiation was deposited in the ocean and poles, so I think the global population got the least exposure,” Evangeliou told the annual meeting of the European Geosciences Union in Vienna, Austria, last month. He has estimated the dose that most individuals received to be 0.1 millisievert. “What I found was that we got one extra X-ray each,” says Evangeliou."

    As if this planet is not interconnected.
    WE'RE NOT STUPID.

    Is the ocean going to contain the radioactive material, somehow?
    The melting poles, somehow, to contain it's share if the contamination?

    We took our x-ray and it's all better now, NOW IS IT?

    The Norway shills are some of those that should SHUT UP.
    Shut up, shut up, shut up.

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Perfect! 🙂

      • Mack Mack

        Norway = thorium hopefuls

        • q Farthington MacMananus

          Still requires uranium, is suitable for weapons production, tritium releases, fluoride, etc.

          I seem to recall something about lithium related to thorium mining too. Besides, thorium isn't even as prevalent as uranium.

          I actually wanted to ask how I should go about arguing against that crap a day or two ago, since people seem to get angry if I say thorium is shit also.

          I mean, the damage from thorium reactors (considering their "viability") hasn't quite been exhibited yet.

          • q Farthington MacMananus

            By, not as prevalent as uranium, I mean it isn't quite as "easy" to use.

            • What is key is what is the other half….you know what happens when you spin a metal object rotor, in a magnetic field?

              You know what happens when the magnetic field gets weaker?

              I should charge for this stuff.

          • razzz razzz

            When you build a thorium reactor, you have to build a reprocessing plant along side as thorium fuel becomes 'poisoned' it has to be processed to remove the unwanted poisons that interfere with the fission process. That alone is cost prohibitive besides the chemicals and radioactive waste byproducts resulting from reprocessing.

            Then there is the problem of maintaining the reactor itself. It almost has to be rebuilt every year to keep ahead of the corrosive properties of thorium. Another added cost.

            There is actually more thorium in nature than uranium.

            Proponents of thorium reactors like to talk about, safety plugs, less half lives of radioactive byproducts measured in 100 hundred of years compared to thousands of years from uranium wastes, new technology not invented yet to deal with thorium reactor problems, laser assisted radioactive waste processing, claims dealing with high gamma uranium-232 is no big deal.

            Thorium reactors are a nonstarter or why haven't they been built and up and running yet?

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      a lethal dose for a butterfly larvae is 2 becquerels. A dose resulting in deformity is less than one becquerel. That means each cubic meter of the ocean has enough nuke fallout to kill or deform 5 larvae…perpetually

      I really think the intelligence of the human ape-man species has been going down. Scientists find this confusing….now why would that be?

      'Studies show that since the nineteen fifties the average I. Q has dropped a total of three points. This is alarming and confusing at the same time'

      86 is the average IQ? Oh brother are we in trouble
      http://uhaweb.hartford.edu/BRBAKER/

      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/human-intelligence-peaked-thousands-of-years-ago-and-weve-been-on-an-intellectual-and-emotional-8307101.html

  • Sol Man

    All the atom and chem tests/use has been very bad for are bwains and stuff. What is some proof? Go read Shakespear, or Ralph Waldo Emerson. But other favorites are:
    Francis Bacon (1561-1626,) Abraham Crowley (1618-1667,) Charles Lamb (1775-1834,) or Percy Bysshe Shelly(1792-1822.)

    Most from Selected English Essays. They were masterful wordsmiths
    Oxford University Press, 1926

  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

    Ill throw in my usual; what if, instead of ten becquerels per cubic meter, they found 10,000 bq/m3? Would Fukushima seem more dangerous? What if they found 10 million bq/m3? Would it be more alarming?

    Heres an autoradiograph of plankton. http://www.gutenberg.org/files/48038/48038-h/images/p010.jpg
    The bright spots are points of extreme radiation.
    Many Chernobyl studies show that man made radiation, especially in the form of ingested nuclear fallout, is very roughly 1000x worse than previously assumed.

    less than one becquerel of it can deform small life forms as shown in well documented studies
    http://fooyoh.com/files/attach/images/591/673/867/007/butterfly.jpg

    Again, see that fallout produces points of intense radiation
    https://phmuseum.imgix.net/users/21563/stories/4054/nypn0yc4b5384bd8.jpeg?q=60&dpr=2&w=720&h=445&fit=crop

    But there is another level of point source that you cant see; at the atomic level, man made radiation can be millions of times more radioactive (specific activity). Studies have not been made to realize the effects possible from atomic level extreme radioactivity. But one thing is certain; it is in no way natural to have your cell protoplasm spiked with highly radioactive cesium, even if the averaged measurement seems small

    Jay Cullen will repeat the common theme; Cesium and other radionuclides have diluted to safe levels. But dilution is not possible at the atomic level.

  • Jebus Jebus

    The wording. The pretense. The past tense. The omission of facts.

    For public consumption. We'll send you the bill…

    Fukushima accident gave everyone an X-ray’s worth of radiation

    We're going to run with this like it's a golden pig.

    Uh, was that live?

    https://www.newscientist.com/article/2129988-fukushima-accident-gave-everyone-an-x-rays-worth-of-radiation/

    Soma…

  • So they are finally admitting the, "warm blob", is similar in structure and site to the radiation deposits, from Fukushima.
    Ain't that something?
    Yeesh.

    • Very simple AnneBeck, krill make gases that nucleate clouds, clouds cools things off.

      When radiation biomagnifies in the krills chitin structure, it kills them, no krill, less clouds. Hotter.

      Plus the el Nino, it was the perfect storm. So to speak. Now we get cooling but the food chain is now 80% at the deep bottom of ocean.

      How long does it take to build up the food chain again, methinks 30 to 40 years, unless there is another "gross insult" then we could be 3 or 4 generations off.

      Shit if I know, you think they have no freaking clue? Perhaps they don't, but I have told 100 scientists, not a peep out of them, just attacks.

  • SadieDog

    "We have spent billions of dollars on one of the most hazardous technologies ever invented and created many metric tons of toxic radioactive waste that will have to remain entombed for at least the next 250,000 years. The half-life of plutonium-239, or the time it would take for just half the stuff to decay, is more than 24,000 years; experts say radioactive materials remain fatally dangerous 10 to 20 times their half-life. Glacial ice covered much of North America 24,000 years ago.

    We were promised 40 years ago that science would figure this out. We’re no closer; in fact, we seem further away. The proposed Yucca Mountain site in Nevada, said to be America’s best nuclear waste repository, is now deemed by many to be as foolhardy and dangerous as others that have been suggested. The fact that the Trump administration has asked Congress for $120 million to restart licensing activity for Yucca Mountain should bring us all out of our stupor.

    Forty years ago, we were fighting corporate greed — the arrogant conceit that short-term profit justifies a blatant disregard for the long-term interests of the planet. Sound familiar?"

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/letters/2017/05/05/years-after-seabrook-protests/6v6y821PfLhKrS3XJZPBIM/story.html

  • SadieDog

    "Scientists have found the radioactive waste are in some lakes, ponds, and marshes where the migratory fowl usually stopped by in their annual migration in Georgia. This finding is alarming as waterfowls are usually hunted for consumption during the waterfowls season.

    Migratory waterfowls usually stop by the lakes, ponds, and marshes as their rest stop during the annual travel. However, scientists from the University of Georgia find the radioactive waste in the some of lakes and ponds, posing danger to the waterfowls."

    http://www.sciencetimes.com/articles/14288/20170504/radioactive-waste-endangers-the-migratory-waterfowl-polluting-lakes-ponds-marshes.htm

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