Published: July 1st, 2011 at 11:07 am ET
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Fire continues to threaten nuclear lab, NBC Nightly News, June 30, 2011:
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What? Wouldn’t that stock pile be kicking off some nasty radiation? Wouldn’t personnel in charge of maintaining that stock pile get irradiated as they worked? If it were real “plutonium waste” why stick it outside under a tent? Why allow NBC to film it? Especially if the nuclear industry is really trying to keep public support. I see too many “whys” and smell too much BS. It would appear that they are just trying to distract and herd the sheep…or…throwing in the towel. Either way, their repeated display of moronic disposition enforces the argument of their need to be locked in cages. Incompetence, deliberate fear, ‘sheep steering’, is illegal.
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All great points pg. There’s so much bs going on, we need to BRING THE HAMMER DOWN on all of them. Feeding the Sheeple, your so right.
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We need to post the Daily Show blog..let Jon Stewart know what is going on.
Comedians only ones that can tell the truth it seems.
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And Greenpeace …ask them to step it up.
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We need to beat on Fox news ..some more.
Protests against nuclear power in general..well..it’s too late.
We have to pick our battles.
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greanpeace are on a go slow..
ge probably offered them a donation.
spoke to greenpeace uk they said fukishima is a local problem for japan and will not affect the uk : )
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Umm.let’s keep sending them..irate letters.
Blog them heavy..make them sweat it.
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pg, that neat stock pile is quite impressive! Take a look at how it was done in Germany’s nuclear dump “Asse” during the 60′s….750 m underground, in an abandoned salt dome, which was to keep the stuff safe forever, no worries! Today, every day 12 m3 radioactive water are leaking out of the compartments. They need to get the 12.ooo drums above ground, but nobody knows how to do that. The dome will be safe until 2015, it already starts cracking. Excellent, huh?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_CCZ-xq7pHHQ/SaNC0LFP6cI/AAAAAAAAC74/CZHr2Pcw_sc/s1600-h/303587_1_Asse.jpg
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Based on this report, it is clear that radioactive waste–at least some–has already burned.
http://www.ananuclear.org/Portals/0/documents/Water%20Report/waterreportlosalamos.pdf
Jon_NY posted this important report yesterday.
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Also, there is this video, with a simple visual analysis of the location of the fire as of yesterday (based on photographs from the press) in relation to where the barrels are stored (using Google Earth for the map):
June 30th: “Los Alamos Big Heads Up”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3hffTNuOAY
From this video, it looks that at least some of the radioactive waste areas at Los Alamos were definitely burning as of yesterday. This means that more would be burning by today.
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It appears to be DELIBERATE in nature. The tent, and the fires. People need to start asking some serious question, like how did the fire start, and who was the moron that authorized plutonium tents, how long the tents were there, etc.
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They got one here yesterday:
Palm Bay Police Arrest Suspected Serial Arsonist – Orlando News …
30 Jun 2011 … Palm Bay police arrest a man wanted for years in some of the hundreds … PALM BAY, Fla. — Palm Bay police have arrested a man wanted for years in … lots and fires that start there are a threat to homes, police said. …
http://www.wesh.com/news/28411170/detail.html
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It’s gotta be caused by that HAARP weather weapon.
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I know someone who works there with scientists now… They all have known how dry it has been in NM for some time…a tinderbox waiting to happen with the AZ fires next door! The average person there is trying hard NOT to do anything that would start a fire…that’s illegal, immoral, and highly dangerous for the whole state, if not world…as we can see!!
I think much more can and must be done to control this—they need to pull out the stops!!
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The only report I have seen mentioning the origin of the fire is here:
Sunday, June 26th: “Las Conchas Fire grows to nearly 50,000 acres”
http://www.santafenewmexican.com/Local%20News/New-forest-fire-burning-SW-of-Los-Alamos?loc=interstitialskip
“Las Conchas Fire began Sunday at 1 p.m. on private land in the Jemez Mountains 12 miles southwest of Los Alamos. By midnight, the fire had grown to between 4,000 and 6,000 acres, and had burned within one mile of the southwest of the Los Alamos National Laboratory boundary. The fire’s cause remained under investigation Sunday night. The flames traveled quickly from tree crown to crown. Wind flung burning embers more than half a mile away.”
The whole thing is entirely suspicious. The fact that the fire started “on private land” (whose?) so close to the Los Alamos lab, and the fact that it has exhibited behaviour that the fire chief has never seen before and all of these “little details” point to deliberate intent to create another radiation disaster.
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Pg I am thinking right now people are trying to stay alive. This is mixed radioactive elements and plutonium that are now airborne. They are breathing this(and wearing it on their skin) in right now without a choice. I am certain that after the residents escape hopefully with their lives they will storm the media and the government with questions.
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No they will not storm the media and gov with questions because they will never be told or infer the truth, which is that they were poisoned.
they will go on with their lives and many of them will become sick but their cancer cluster will simply be regarded as another inexplicable cancer cluster.
The firefighters are lambs being led to slaughter
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The future of the firefighters is heartbreaking.
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Better to fight this with 200% than sit around helpless!!!
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Yes, my contacts in NM are staying in, but sitting tight…No one can really believe these risks anyway.
I begged them to get outfitted and to head out days ago!!
Majia, How is the scene in Arizona?
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According to radnet, the radiation levels in AZ (except Yuma which has been under review for weeks) have dropped substantially.
The jet stream is now pretty far north so all of the radiation from Fukushima is bombarding the north west.
Our air quality in Phoenix has been terrible from the AZ fires but the last weather map I saw showed winds moving north east so my bet is that the winds from the Los Alamos fire are blowing the contamination into Colorado.
Can anyone link today’s wind patterns for New Mexico? I couldn’t figure out how to do it at weather underground.
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At least the Firefighters get to FIGHT with all their dignity, courage, and pride!!! I somewhat envy them.
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IF, IF, IF, and we have the real deal in Japan bombarding us with radiation every day ! Telling the truth of IF and IF in here fron across the sea via jet stream !
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Scroll down..and plume projections for Chernobyl.
It can be deduced that similar and MORE plumes were emitted from Fukushima.
http://www.dhushara.com/book/explod/cher/cher.htm
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Plume projections…show your friends/doubters.
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meh, maybe all the depopulation rumors are true and this is just another way to kill us all.
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they are stepping up the pace
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http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu/f1-np/camera/index-j.html
Looks dang smokey to me!
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Me too.
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Isn’t all that low and mid level waste? Masks, gloves, overalls, filters – that kind of thing? You wouldn’t store liquid waste like that.
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For The Fire Experts And Nuclear people in New Mexico. To stop the treat of fire, to the Lab Systems, you can do three things
1. Grow ice Plants
2. Add a offsite large above ground total area sprinkler system around the worst areas.
3. CUT EXCESS foliage back several hundreds of feet even up to at least a mile in all directions Mark retired Fire captain
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dib..dib..dib,dob,dob,dob
lets go camping boy scout style.
bring plenty of potatoes we will bake them under the cloudy cesium night sky.
have water dousing fights.
tell ghost stories about mutant earless animals.
force dazed naked los alamos scientists to try to escape from the burning tent of death.
ohh to be a boy scout again.
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Why don’t you try to figure out what kind of radiation plutonium emits and see if workers are likely to be “irradiated” by working around well-sealed drums containing materials such as plutonium glove box gloves before you rant. I’m all in favor of rants, but …
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Tenor if you check the report I linked above you will note that the waste is not at all limited to well-sealed drums.
The report documents that waste was dumped on the grounds for years and years with little to no containment http://www.ananuclear.org/Portals/0/documents/Water%20Report/waterreportlosalamos.pdf
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tenor.
please are you for real.
forget the plutonium.
what to you believe is in the most historic nuclear test site in the world.
what do you think protocols were like in the 40s,50s and 60s.
the whole stinking site has been converted from soil and shrub into breathable particles.
i have been to 3 uk nuke sites and they all have scary parts involving bad experiments gone wrong.
los alamos is mile after mile of insane madcap nuclear projects over 60 years.
go and film yourself suckin the lovely air if you think this is safe.
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EPA On Radiation Alert As Fires Reach 50 Feet From Los Alamos Nuke Plant
http://theintelhub.com/2011/06/29/epa-on-radiation-alert-as-fires-reach-50-feet-from-los-alamos-nuke-plant/
“’The concern is that these drums will get so hot that they’ll burst. That would put this toxic material into the plume. It’s a concern for everybody,’ said Joni Arends, executive director of the Concerned Citizens for Nuclear Safety, an anti-nuclear group.
“The EPA’s trustworthiness on reassuring Americans that there is no danger from radiation released into the atmosphere is likely to be somewhat lessened by what happened following the Fukushima disaster earlier this year.
“As the Fukushima radiation plume took just days to arrive in the U.S., instead of advising Americans to take weaker forms of potassium iodine to build up their immunity to certain types of radioactivity, the EPA simply increased the allowable levels of the radioactive isotope iodine-131 by many thousands of times, despite the fact that within just two weeks of the Japanese earthquake and tsunami that crippled the nuclear plant, the amount of radiation released from Fukushima already rivaled that of Chernobyl, the worst nuclear disaster up until that point.”
“Within weeks of the Fukushima crisis, levels of radioactive Iodine-131 found in rainwater in California, Idaho, Minnesota, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Massachusetts, was already 181 times the U.S. federal standard for drinking water.
“However, the EPA reacted by encouraging Americans not to take potassium iodide or any protective measures whatsoever. Indeed, Barack Obama all but insulted Americans who had responded by buying up supplies of potassium iodide pills as a precaution.
“It’s little surprise that huge numbers of Americans responded to Fukushima by creating a run on potassium iodide pills and geiger counters. As the sustained cover-up by the Japanese government has once again proven, governments cannot be trusted to tell the truth about public health threats.
“Nowhere was this more evident in the case of the EPA than in the days following 9/11, when ground zero workers were told that the air was “safe to breathe,” a contrived cover-up on behalf of the EPA and the White House that led to thousands of crippling illnesses and deaths of firefighters, police and first responders.
“Despite official assurances that residents in surrounding areas were safe, the 3 Mile Island accident, which was miniscule compared to Fukushima, also led to a dramatic rise in cancer rates.
“Should wildfires consume the nuclear waste stored at Los Alamos, the U.S. government will not be able to protect its citizens.”
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Possibly saw the plastic tents in an aerial google earth map 2 days ago. If you imagine looking down on many structures like the canvas/plastic tent pictured in the article, that’s exactly what they looked like. Many rectangular shapes placed up against each other, same color, and with the little peaked top to the rooves.
Worst part, they were right along the property line along highway 151, SW corner of LANL property, which is the area designated where the fire has approached.
I’m not giving a link, as I can’t find it again. When I went to look for it yesterday I couldn’t zoom in close enough to actually see the buildings and tents on LANL site. I don’t have time to look again today, so I give this info only so someone with more time today can look. Suggestion: Google the town Los Alamos, not LANL. From the town scroll S & W.
Hope someone can find this and comment what it looks like to them!
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Correction Nm highway #501, not 151. It seems also to be called W. Jimenez Rd.
Found it. It’s on (LANL site –Bikini Rd.) It’s a plot with 54 “buildings” which look like the picture, same color and general shape. They’re placed right next to each other- 6 across X 9 deep.
What do you think?
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