Physician: The high radiation doses, the plume from Fukushima crossing ocean, likely to hit coast of Canada and Northwestern US in early 2014 — California impacted later in year — People don’t know how to stop situation at plant, it’s a global public health catastrophe (AUDIO)

Published: October 29th, 2013 at 11:51 am ET


Title: Untold History/Fukushima
Source: Coast to Coast AM
Date: Oct. 27, 2013

At 1:34:15 in

Dr. Helen Caldicott, MD, pediatrician who taught at Harvard Medical School: There is no way to fix this situation. It’s going to be ongoing, as I’ve just described, for the next 50 years. What people need to know in North America is that air masses of the Northern and Southern Hemispheres do not mix at the equator, so you will get all the fallout. My family’s in Boston — my young grandchildren – and if there is a major release of radiation, I’m going to fly them to Australia. […] The high radiation doses, the plume of radiation traveling across the Pacific as I speak, is likely to hit the west coast of Canada, and Oregon and Washington early next year. And then California will be impacted later in the year by this huge plume of radiation. But what I want to stress is, people don’t know how to stop this. […] This a global public health ongoing catastrophe and no one is attending to it.

George Knapp, host: Wow. […]

Caldicott: You can’t imagine a more deleterious situation in human terms, it’s kind of like a science fiction story, but the scary thing is its ongoing and the Japanese government is lying about it.

Full broadcast available for Coast to Coast subscribers here — (On YouTube while it lasts)

Published: October 29th, 2013 at 11:51 am ET


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135 comments to Physician: The high radiation doses, the plume from Fukushima crossing ocean, likely to hit coast of Canada and Northwestern US in early 2014 — California impacted later in year — People don’t know how to stop situation at plant, it’s a global public health catastrophe (AUDIO)

  • the radiation surpassed the international date line march 2012. I.e. that is the half way point between Japan and California.

    It travels at 8m/s and made landfall on the Californian coast in :you 2013.

    You will hear 2014 to reduce panic. However, one can easily view this data @ biogensciences, which explains in depth, the tidal forecasts and isotope ratios, and sightings taken by 8 boats with 11 tin traps at various locations on the ocean floor between the usa and japan.

    Just saying
    It's already here. Hence bloody fish in Vancouver, star fish in Seattle and Canada, politeness in Alaska, seals sea lions walruses ect.

    From Alaska to California it's here
    Also it traveled primarily on the 40deg.. Parallel.

  • nedlifromvermont

    Thank you Helen Caldicott for telling it like it is.

    … and not mincing words …

    … and not pulling punches …

    The truth smells better than nuclear lies. No matter how bad.

    peace …

  • ftlt

    The media deniers will talk only of dilution – as they did with the BP gulf spill (yes, bogus)…

    Only thing, radiation does not dilute, does it… It just keeps on giving over a broader area…

    They will talk and act like it will all just goes away..

    And the masses of good slaves will believe them…

  • "…I’m going to fly them to Australia." – Dr. Caldicott

    People with money will flee. That doesn't seem fair to me.

    Buy me a ticket, I'll go right now.

    I guess it depends on what deck of the Titanic your life got booked on.

    • We Not They Finally

      Yes, AND… There was still "On the Beach" in Australia. But Helen Caldicott is also a native Australian. And she's a pediatrician. She's pled mightily for the health and lives of Japanese children in complete horror. I would not want to see her or her family denied a thing.

      • We Not They Finally

        Actually, what we joke about in our house is if aliens show up and they just seem half-way benevolent, give us tickets on the first spaceship out of here! Bye, bye, Planet Earth…

      • amberlight amberlight

        If Dr. Caldicott's genetic line survives this holocaust, then there is hope for the future of humanity. Unfortunately the ringmasters of the three ring circus of global horrors will also be hunkered down in their lavishly outfitted bunkers in the southern hemisphere.

    • Usefulbreather

      I agree. I wish I could afford to move to the Southern Hemisphere, but I guess I will just have to eat sushi and run around in the rain to speed up the process. Those of us without the resources to move have just been handed a death sentence.

    • mairs mairs

      A family member's husband and kids… a few blocks from the coast in California, have a vacation house in New Zealand. The can go there, but the husband already contracted leukemia.

  • weeman

    One hundred percent right, no fix, it is broken like humpy dumpy and will not be put back together, now you know the root of this nursery rhyme, it was in the back of our heads since we were born.

    In the case of unrestricted release and no time frame, ms Caldicott will be moving her family sooner or later, don't wait, you will not get on plane, you must be proactive or you will be to late. He who hesitates, go with your gut instinct and follow your heart.

  • Cisco Cisco

    Helen Caldicott…a lot more the a "pediatrician who taught at Harvard Medical School".

    Dr. Caldicott is one of the world's leading authorities and expert on ionizing radiation, maybe the world's foremost expert and authority.

    Her bio at

    • Cisco Cisco

      Helen Caldicott…a lot more than a "pediatrician who taught at Harvard Medical School".

      Dr. Caldicott is one of the world's leading authorities and experts on ionizing radiation, maybe the world's foremost expert and authority.

      Her bio at

      • Socrates

        Cystic fibrosis is genetic. There are many other genetic diseases that manifest in childhood. She mentions hemachromatosis as well as several other childhood diseases that are caused by mutations.

        There are developmental diseases of childhood such as cretinism that can be caused by maternal/fetal exposure because the fetus' thyroid levels are too low for proper brain development.

        I have predicted mental retardation of many children in Japan as a result of thyroid alone. Terrible insensitivity by industry and government.

  • Oncewaslost Oncewaslost

    God bless Caldicott.

    However she can only make her incisive assessments based on the information she has been provided.

    She, like you and I, cannot confirm the status of the spent fuel pools which is why she says "if a serious release of radiation" occurs I will fly my family out of the hemisphere.

    However who is to say, it has not already occurred?


    Demand it.

    And if they cannot provide it. Then they should not be allowed to operate ever again.

    And not just words…. Footage, pictures assessments based on real images from the pools.

    • richard richard

      Please dont curse Dr Caldicott with a gawd bless.

      Try zues, or allah… or, better still.. no fictional beings at all. 🙂

      spam spam spam spam.

      • or-well

        A personal crusade
        doomed to fail, I'm afraid.
        Might as well find stone wall
        and proceed to bang head.
        Gaia's Blessings are there
        but for the Living, not dead.

        • richard richard

          Gaia's Blessings, now there's something I can live with.

          The planet is real, tangible stuff. And it blesses us everyday with life.

          My campaign to stop spam will not stop though. Religions will stop one day, the fiction cannot be maintained for forever.

          Sprituality and a connection with Earth, that is eternal and requires no propoganda or spam 😉

          • Oncewaslost Oncewaslost


            • richard richard

              Hi Once. Yeah, spam is whenever I see religous bleating, like gawd bless and lawd knows etc…

              We get plied with it regularly, almost sublimally. I highlight it when it occurs. People don't always thinks it's a problem and they tell me to go away, but it's an insiduous bit of fiction maintainenance and I'm over it.

              It's just simply spam.

              • Richard, it is very selfish of you to use this forum to promote your atheist philosophy. The subject is Fukushima triple melt down and it attracts all kinds of people not limited to Atheists, Christians,Muslims and Jewish. It would be better to respect all beliefs not just your own. It is a grave and sad situation this triple meltdown and you could forgive some well-meaning soul for saying "God Bless". Everyone knows that phrase is a traditional one, full of good intentions. Who are you to disrespect other peoples beliefs? Calling it spam. Do you not want us to respect your atheism? If so perhaps an apology is in order.

                • richard richard

                  Yes, this site is about the Fukushima melt down, not about fictional beings and dogma.
                  And it may also attract people from various faiths and none faiths – which makes the point even stronger that people should not be promoting their invisible friends.

                  And I ceraintly have not have no respect for people who follow fiction and fairy tales as a core to their life. You wouldn't respect me if I went on about Jedi knights, so it goes back the other way with any fictional beliefs.

                  There is nothing well meaning in gawd bless, it's just spam for the religious. Just say, 'bless you', or 'all the best wishes'.

                  Gawd bless may be a traditional term, but that doesn't make it right. It's still promoting the religious agenda.

                  People of 'faith' need to respect the wishes of all others who do NOT want to hear about your invisble friends. Others will have different (often false and dogma) beliefs to follow, so don't expect the muslims to appreciate the gawds.

                  I'm am always amazed at the lack of understanding from the 'christians' in their reactions to my request to stop the spam. They certainly never respond in a civil manner, they are a very defensive lot – not surprising really when their world it built on false premise.

            • Oncewaslost Oncewaslost

              whew… quite a pointless flame war…

              FYI – I am probably atheist with agnostic leanings but I don't spend a lot of time thinking about it to be sure.

              • richard richard

                I'm with you Once.

                It seems that I make a small comment (to respect those of us who don't believe in fairy tales), then the guns comes out a firin'.

                I never intend for these wars to happen. They keep fighting back, instead of being good little sheeple like they claim to be.

                • Oncewaslost Oncewaslost

                  No need to be with me…

                  I prefer actually being relegated to your spam file therefor ensuring less if any further engagement.

        • Oncewaslost Oncewaslost

          Personal crusade?


          Actually I have asked this question for two years, so maybe it is a personal crusade, which is a fine commentary on the state of things…. wouldn't you say?

          A simple ask for the straight goods on the single most important issue becomes a futile crusade.

          There are probably 10,000 pages of information at this site… yet we cannot answer this simple question.

          Thank god… ooops Gaia, for the "information age" it keeps us so well informed.

        • Anthony Anthony

          Very well said Or-Well. I believe someone is in for a massive surprise or just the rudest awakening, much sooner than he realizes. It would be true he has well earned it. You on the other hand, are going to receive something for your beautiful mind.

          • richard richard

            Oh, is that so Anthony. Playing on that system of fear based repression are we? What discrimination are you directing at me now… I'm less of a person, bacause I seek a world free of dogma and fairy tales to placate the weak (and to profit the exploitive)?

            • Anthony Anthony

              Not at all richard but I am sick of the asshole you always seem to be.

              • Anthony Anthony

                Your irritating quality is NOT what you do or don't believe in, but it is the disrespectful style in which you jump into conversations to completely demean the entirety of what the person is saying by your fixation on your own agenda, thereby minimizing the other 99 other words a post may contain. Consistently.

                Have you ever heard of To Each His Own?

                You don't show us respect so what exactly do you expect in return?

                Usually lately I just ignore you now as a potentially hopeless case. Prove me wrong.

                • richard richard

                  If it was to each his own, then people would shut up with their fairy tales.

                  You just don't get it. It should even be in the discussion. It's fairy tale stuff. There is no proof or fact in any of it. Whenever people 'pop' it into conversations, it stains the comment with untruths and dogma.

                  I give people plenty of respect. But not when they invoke their invisible friends. It's simply not on.

                  The religious used to argue (venomously) that the world was flat. They were wrong (as always). Just as the people of the world found reality and a global planet, they will all one day drop all the fairy tales and fiction. It wont happen today, but it will happen. Religious is quackery. Spiritualism is not to be discounted and not what I'm having a go at.

                  • richard richard

                    typo – It should NOT even be in the discussion.

                  • Anthony Anthony

                    I don't need to get you. I don't want to get you.

                    You don't need to get me or anybody else. But you spend every second post trying to set others straight according to your empty heart.

                    What YOU don't get is you need to DO you and let everyone else follow their own paths.


                    Grade school stuff.

                    And typical to your diatribe you have proven to have missed my point entirely while clinging tenaciously onto your need to feel Right.

                    Congratulations richard I hope you are happy with yourself. Now lets move onto MUCH more important and interesting matters rather than wasting even more precious time on just your personal beliefs.

                • amberlight amberlight

                  Richard obviously is a very paranoid person or he wouldn't get hysterical over the mere mention of Deity. Pretty pathetic. Can you imagine what a cesspool this message board would be if everyone posted a put-down whenever someone else gave the slightest indication of his/her belief or lack thereof? (I'm just glad I'm not around when somebody sneezes and poor Richard hears a "God bless you.")

                  And indeed may God bless Helen Caldicott and others courageous enough to buck the trend of compliance with the party line.

                  • richard richard

                    what's with you zealots amber?

                    Yes, I find fictional character names offensive. Why can you not accept that. Why keep using names of fairy tale entities?

                    It happens rarely that people use thsee words. And yes, when people try to 'gawd bless' me when I sneeze I do ask that they don't do that and will explain why.

                    I (and many, many others) do not want to see/hear the invocation of fictional, dogma based beings. The world is not flat. Wake up to reality.

                  • Anthony Anthony

                    Agreed and it is just boring now.

                  • bo bo

                    I'm just glad I'm not around when somebody sneezes and poor Richard hears a "God bless you."

                    LOL amberlight

              • richard richard

                I tell you what Anthony. You're an asshole for calling me an asshole, when all I want is a dogma free world. I never insulted anyone. I simply highlighted the flawed comment.

                You response is typical of the zealots and preach dogma and maintain the system of fear based repression.

                Remember, I started no argument with you, or anyone. But you called me an asshole, you asshole zealot.

                • Anthony Anthony

                  Um…. I was talking to Or-Well in the first place. And I wasn't in any argument. You started the argument with me so get that straight up. I thought what he posted was AWESOME!!!!!!!

                • Richard, you most certainly did insult everyone here who may have faith in any number of religions. Your words. "Yeah, spam is whenever I see religous bleating, like gawd bless and lawd knows etc…" You didn't respond to my comment directed at you. The subject is the horrible triple meltdown and ongoing release of radiation at Fukushima. This subject brings people of all walks of life together. This is a public forum. I will respect your atheism but you must respect my spiritualism/religion/belief that martians created the world over a bar bet. End of story. You are being selfish using this forum to promote your atheist ideas. Not sure if you are selfish or being paid by GE to get the conversation off topic and I don't care the outcome is the same.
                  You may apologize for your boorish behavior or not. In either case we will have a better idea of who you are.

                  • bo bo

                    Could he be kez reincarnated…?

                    • richard richard

                      ah no bo, i'm not kez.

                      i've been around since before you or kez were ever on the scene, just for the record. 😉 the other long-termers know me 🙂

                    • bo bo

                      You sound like her…

                    • eatliesndie eatliesndie

                      yes richard, we know you. (cringe)

                    • I've been here a long time. Who is Richard? The guy who pops up every now and then pretending to be offended everytime someone says God Bless. Offers nothing to the real discussion of the triple meltdown. A discredit to all good Atheists. Richard, please find a religious dogma chat room and stop wasting everybody's time.

  • Socrates

    Dr. Caldecott correctly describes the threats of nuclear war, climate change, and nuclear power plants as being the three major threats to humanity.

    That is not bad; the nuclear industry/weapons industry represents two of three of the greatest threats to our species.

    Oliver Stone has a very strong statement about the Truman/Eisenhower Cold War and security state that developed after WWIi.

    A great listen! Takes a few hours but well worth it.

    Nuclear radiation at low doses for long periods, plus ingesting and breathing it is kill you before climate change, which she predicts to be six degrees centigrade by the end of the century, yet we have many commentators on TV telling us that we can adapt.

    We are on the wrong path with our heads being held under in the deep end so that energy companies can extract every nickel of profit. Don't they realize that their own children will be left with an uninhabitable planet?

    The nukes I know all talk about "family values." It must be a male brainstem effect of testosterone, according to Dr. Caldicott. How can you be a nuclear engineer when you cannot see what is happening. Coal is just greed, so I get that.

    • amberlight amberlight

      Socrates, I have heard that line of "family values" bullcrap through many years of environmental and political activism. In order to appear to take the high road, they assign "family values" to everything from clear-cutting ancient redwoods to bombing invisible enemies abroad. The "Family" they are talking about must be the Mafia…

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    R A D I A T I O N . I S . R I S I N G

    Northern Hemisphere wrecked from a single nuclear plant.

    And all for nothing.

  • or-well

    from CTBTO –
    "As of 13 April 2011 radioactivity had spread to the southern hemisphere of the Asia-Pacific region and had been detected at stations located for example in Australia, Fiji, Malasia and paua New Guinea."

    • or-well

      typo – >Papua< New Guinea

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      funny you should mention New Guinea in this thread or-well. It is said that the Rockefellers own most present energy: oil-based, natural gas and nuclear.

      Some may recall that Michael Clark Rockefeller disappeared in New Guinea in the early 1960s. It was a very real possibility that head hunters ate Michael Rockefeller, shrunk and preserved his head by removing and smoking the skin. Three possible shrunken heads were delivered to his mother, Mary Todhunter Rockefeller (the name Todhunter means fox hunter, an occupation which paid 12 pence for each fox head)

      Interestingly, headhunting and preservation have been practiced in parts of Oceania, South and Southeast Asia, West and Central Africa, tribes of the Celts, the West Germanic peoples, the Norse, the Scythians of ancient Europe. It occurred in Europe until the early 20th century in the Balkan Peninsula and to the end of the Middle Ages in Ireland and the Anglo-Scottish border regions. Perhaps more to the point, During World War II, Allied (specifically including American) troops occasionally collected the skulls of dead Japanese as personal trophies, as souvenirs for friends and family at home, and for sale to others.

      More on Rockefellers head later…

      • bo bo

        Have no idea where this is going but I love it

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        before I get into the gilded skull we came into possession under mysterious circumstances, here is a little movie trailer that puts some visuals to the mystery of Michael Rockefeller, heir to one of the most powerful and wealthy dynasties on earth

        • bo bo

          Whatever it is this is effin awesome

          • bo bo

            I didn't know there was a real Clark Rockefeller, I recall a Rockefeller impostor by the same name, the con artist that got caught.

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              different guy. The real Michael Rockefeller died, or possibly lived…in New Guinea by/with cannibals. If he lived, we get some idea of his fate from the thousands of Japanese who fled into the New Guinea Jungle During the W.W. II fighting in the Pacific, when U.S., Australian, and Dutch troops finally recaptured Merauke in 1945.

              The Asmat natives believe that odd-looking people offer protection against the dreaded forest demons. Weve forwarded a message to tribal leaders that Richard from ENEnews says there are no demons) The Japanese survivors would have been kept as part prisoners, part guests. They were given wives and treated well but never allowed to leave. As the years passed, the Japanese grew accustomed to tribal life and made no serious efforts to escape.

              • bo bo

                Lol on that message to the tribal leaders

              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                If Rockefeller was cannibalized, (similar to caramelized, only different) the irony is that wealth may have been his undoing. Michael was keen on collecting These skulls and shrunken heads, and he had great wealth to pay the natives for them…in the form of cigarettes and hatchets. The Dutch had persuaded the natives to curtail the enjoyable custom of eating people and preserving the heads for decor, signs of valor and voodoo like power. But with this great wealth of hatchets and cigarettes, they could buy wives and luxuries, and so headhunting enjoyed a resurgence. When the beached kid was found wandering alone, natives who didnt know who he was would have found it irresistible to collect his skull for its great value in cigarettes and hatchets, whilst enjoying a tasty snack of roasted finger.

                • bo bo

                  This story is morbidly hilarious…

                  On a serious note… why was he collecting the heads, I have to wonder.
                  Hopefully it was just some weird rich guy's personal hobby.. those stories about satanistic rituals and bohemian grove/ illuminati / Bildeburg…. of course, that's just all urban legend silliness…

                  • bo bo

                    Caramelized Rockefeller fingers rolled in praline cream and covered in milk chocolate…. trick or treat…yum !

  • rakingmuck

    What Helen Caldicott said to me as we know each other. Stunning I know as no one ever responds to anything I say here. She said "It depends upon how many years you want to live. Stay in LA maybe 5. Move to Southern Hemisphere maybe 10-20. We are all going to be effected". I want more than 5.

    • Oncewaslost Oncewaslost

      Wow…. 5 years on the west coast eh?

      Right from Caldicott? This is one of those times I look in the mirror and wonder what kind of parent I am.

    • mairs mairs

      I hope you stay. I'm pretty new here and I'm glad to read your updates and inside info.

      • bo bo

        Oops that was in agreement for responses below…yes this site is jam packed with so much important info and thread on these pages it's hard to keep up!
        Would love the updates from dr. Caldicott

    • Kassandra

      Thank you for sharing

      Can. It be true?

      I live approximately a five hour drive from LA


      I see it as far less for the whole world. As a student of sociology and psychology, I see a massive break down when the shit hits the fan. When the news breaks, all people will give up societal norms, including the techs at the nuke plants. They have no power for 8 hours, and then we have fuku on a massive scale. Just my thoughts on the beast that is man. We are worse than a beast, because we are willing to shit where we eat and we kill for fun.

    • jec jec

      Its not even five years if you add in Hanford's radiation. My family just lost a farmer, who spent the spring of 2011 farming in the rain/winds outside in the Pacific NW. In 2012 – pancreatic cancer diagnosis, he died in December 2012. He was just barely 60 yrs old and healthy before Fukushima. I saw him summer of 2012 before his diagnosis–he looked 'grey'..and I knew he was sick. For some reason, looking at him I knew his skin color was off, and had a feeling he was ill. I mentioned my concern, was told he just had a full checkup, all was fine; it wasnt.He lived 7 months after diagnosis.

      Wonder where are the statistics on cancer and heart attack increases since 3/11. And ages…and birth defects/miscarriages. With just my family alone, there is not ONE person who has not lost a child to birth defects, has children with birth defects, had/has cancer and autoimmune diseases. I have a large family….

      • jec jec

        I HAD a large family….

      • andagi andagi

        Dear jec,
        Very sorry to hear this news and for your loss.
        Also concerned for all in the beautiful PNW.
        Please take good care and keep posting.

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        They are always are about 3 years behind on all statistics and that is by choice and it gives them time to play with all the numbers via peer reviews or I guess what has been approved.

        Many will pass from these recent ongoing radiation contamination exposure events and I am sorry for all the losses that humans/biological life will now endure in the future.

        We really just are not that intelligent as a species and I am glad they are now talking about the Wizard of OZ on main stream media these days, since that is where we all now reside whether we like it or not.

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Link for what, the Wizard of Oz, that reference was on the radio 10 minutes ago in reference to how obamacare is being rolled out/perceived and when you look at any filed medical reports they usually run three years behind. Search 2013 and you will usually get/find the 2010 summary reports etc. 🙁

  • rakingmuck

    OK see you all later. I can honestly say I have never received as cold a shoulder as I have here. I am expecting an email from Helen as we speak. Good bye.

    • amberlight amberlight

      ?? I don't understand how we are giving you the cold shoulder, rakingmuck. Was there a question you had that nobody answered? Lots of people post here and many don't receive replies. There are many threads I don't even read. Who has the time?

    • norbu norbu

      rakingmuck, do not take it personally. I am ignored all the time here, been here since 2011. All for the greater good. Dr. Caldicott is awesome.

      • Anthony Anthony

        I don't know about you but many days reading here has me nodding my head in complete agreement with the posters as I eagerly look to what the next person has to say or add.

        • amberlight amberlight

          I almost made that very comment, Anthony. Some observations have me laughing out loud, some have me almost in tears and some have me staring in disbelief at what they reveal, but I appreciate the contributions even if they are not always acknowledged.

          • Anthony Anthony

            Great minds and big caring hearts abound herein. We gather for the health of this planet whilst everyone else looks the other way as usual. I think most of us simply cannot do that. Its like we are on a same frequency of thought and concern.

    • NoNukes NoNukes

      Thanks, rakingmuck. That timeline is interesting. Please let us know what she says.

    • expat in chile

      I too want to know what she says.

    • vicky13 vicky13

      Hi rakingmuck,,

      This forum is hard to follow on the best of days. Isn't case of cold shoulders,, is just hard to keep track of all the posts and comments.

      Keep posting, more information shared better it is for everyone, including this planet.

      Please try to persuade Dr. Caldicott to post here, we all could benefit from her insight.

      • Anthony Anthony

        So many of the posters here add such profound and intelligent thought into the mix which often requires nothing more than taking it in. It would be an error to assume such posts go unappreciated.

        • Kassandra

          I feel like I know you all, but I respond to only a few posts because I've little time

          Please realize that many profound comments don't receive public response, BUT those comments may still have significant impact on readers.

          Once again, thank you ALL

    • rogerthat

      Don't go away, rakingmuck. You have just made a signal contribution to this site, and i, for one, will be bereft if you vanish now, and leave us all hanging.

    • Phil Shiffley Phil Shiffley


      Lots of comments asking you to stay. I'll add my belated agreement. I'm in and out most of the day and most always seem to be showing up to the conversation late when a thread catches my fancy. I'll search for where people seem to be making the most recent comments but it's really hard to remember what thread you made a certain comment on and then go back and check if there was an answer. I just mostly share what I stumble onto if I think it might add to the conversation or let smarter people than I have the floor or answer questions. Hope we see you back again.

  • Oncewaslost Oncewaslost

    Something that strikes me as odd is the timeline with respect to "radiation" reaching the West Coast of Canada as headlined here.

    It was about a year ago that a motorcycle was recovered here and the Japanese owner was found. When asked if he wanted it returned he said no, as he did not want any memories of the event, having lost family.

    The bike has been in a Harley Museum ever since. Now I know the Harley Davidson is known as a fast motorbike, but do you think its so fast that it beat microscopic radionuclides to our coast by a couple of years?

  • bdais92

    I would love to see an animated video with the initial Mar. 11th plume, followed by each explosions plume and the constant 300 ton a day (At least) released into the ocean. The contaminated water is said to be diluted after entering the oceans……What if it actually concentrates just like the great pacific garbage patch. A separate video showing air plumes from the same events with the different dispersion rates at different elevations would be Awesome also…….I have no idea how to throw one together or I'd give it a shot myself.

  • rogerthat

    The extent of the cover-up tells you the size of the problem. So does the radical rise in the ''safe'' radiation limits. Now it's all ''safe''.

  • rogerthat

    I have an even bigger problem with the ''300 tonnes a day'' nonsense. Half of Japan was contaminated, and you would need to build a rather large dam – think hundreds of miles long – to prevent rivers, groundwater and runoff from storms from ending up in the ocean. And then where would you put the people? It's a joke.

  • hatrick penry

    Strange that I've never hear Helen mention Plume-Gate….AND a bunch of other 'anti-nuclear' activists (Gundersen, Busby etc.) are avoiding it as well.

    Oh well, Plume-Gate isn't a big deal anyway….

    Something Wicked This Way Comes: The story of Plume-Gate, the world’s largest, provable cover-up:

    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

      Very strange..Gundersen even mentions visiting Enenews..yet it seems to me… he doesn't really read it.
      Is it the political correctness thing again..where half truths can be told…. if the 'tellers' are on right side?

      Like Kevin Blanch says..this is why we lost…
      Great work…. Hatrick Penry

    • Fall out man!

      That's a superb summary of a long and complex event Hatrick. Those FOI requests are very revealing. No doubt its a huge task wading through it all. So many subtleties to it. Particularly interesting about just how much data they could get on where plumes went in the USA from nuke plants, the secret database of rad measurements, the PR teams and IT companies to swat down any of the truth leaking out.

      But one thing that I just had not seen touched upon at all before reading that (but makes perfect sense) is just how much the US Navy knew about where the plumes were and how serious the situation was. In other articles about the US sailors who had their health destroyed by this, the pretence kept up by the Navy is that they just did not have the testing equipment to know quickly what crews were exposed too. (which is laughable when you think about it). That section where two Admirals are talking to the NRC is very revealing. They knew exactly what does rates sailors were exposed too, exactly when plumes had passed over them and how many, and even were telling the NRC where the plumes were going over Japan itself as well as the sea. Also interesting that the FOI emails indicate people were worried about moving ships or distributing KI because it might look bad. Never mind protecting lives. Anyway, its a superb effort.

      Its a lot to wade through for most people. A summary at start and end might help people remember the key points. Anyway, I was fascinated by it. Thanks.

      • Fall out man!

        To other people, don't take the above as a summary, so many subtle points in Hatrick's summary of the disaster from FOI info and other sources. e.g., there were large supplies of KI available. They just were not issued. (something that has been reported here before) While the public were told it didn't matter, officials were desperate to get the stuff personally. (wouldn't go to Japan without it. Similar situation in Japan itself with hospital staff being given KI, but their patients ignored.) You realize how conscious officials are of the FOI legislation too. Careful blacking out of so much released material and so much can be done on unrecorded lines of communication or just withheld. Its an insight into an organisation working to suppress the truth to protect vested interests. A stream of PR , even when lives are on the line. Lives mean nothing to those running the nuclear industry.

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    My measure of Fukushima fallout has been watching the maple leaves. In 2011, many maple leaves here in the US midwest had big purple splotches on them. I had never seen them before in my life.

    These purple splotches were caused by Iodine-131 from Fukushima. They appeared in 2011 and 2012.

    As I walk among the leaves in the fall of 2013, I look for the spots, but haven't seen even one. (However, when I go out today to blow leaves, I will wear the good respirator.). 😉

    Criticalities are still occurring continuously in Fukushima. But the ongoing criticalities in 2013 involve pounds of melted fuel. In 2011, the criticalities involved tons of fuel. Much of the molten nuclear fuel lava has perhaps moved deep into the Earth.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    After a summer of overly large and strange textured tomaotoes.. dandelion with 8 in stems..and plants dying from a black fungus of some type…there are less leave to rake as the community lost 10-15 percent of the local trees..
    I blame the drought for a bit..but there is underground water here…but the trees their entirety..I found odd.

    My concern is ..accumulation..and the fact that we are down 90 percent… bird population.

    [End]..I don't want to debate this ..I just want to be left alone with my observations…

    • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

      Ecosystems thrive on complexity, and on the diversity of their plants and animals.
      Our ecosystems are under assult from humanity and the toxins created by the
      petro/chemical/nuclear/military industrial complex.
      BP is no "accident", just as Fukushima is no "accident".
      There is so much more to come, as corporations seek profits, market share, and stock price, while laying waste to entire ecosystems in their mad dash for another dollar, and another, and another…
      The Gulf of Mexico Ecosystem is in a state of collapse.
      The Pacific Ocean Ecosystem is in a state of collapse.

      First, we lost a neighborhood here and there. I am remembering Love Canal.
      Next, we lost a city here and there. I am remembering New Orleans.
      Now, we are losing entire Ecosystems. I am remembering the once-lovely Pacific Ocean.

      I shed a tear for humanity, another for life on Earth, and still another for the beauty of Earth itself, that we have spoiled so carelessly. We have so much to account for…

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Yes, there has been a great deal of strange stuff this year in CA and it is all very sporadic in nature..:(

    That is the nature of Radioactive fallout as it is very sporadic in its behaviors too!

    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

      Sporadic or applied?… chemtrails helping to create radiation filled clouds and heavy they leave a white foam in the street…the kids cough.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    One of the problems is…most people are not truly aware of their natural surroundings..are not 'in tune' enough to pick up the subtle changes..not care enough about these changes.

    It's kind of like privacy..why protect it.. when people are giving it away.
    People tell every aspect..every detail of their lives and times..on Facebook,etc.

    Defend privacy..what's privacy?..OT..yaya

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Have not seen to many chemtrails lately but I am sure they are out there… 🙁

    This appears to be our newly created synthetic world and they must know that things are very bad..

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Yes, and it really does not need to be this way.. 🙁

    The devil appears to be carrying a huge big flaming stick these days!

    But then he is really the one in charge… 🙁

    • Anthony Anthony

      The finale of the Final Phase
      Wed, October 30, 2013


    • richard richard

      no obe, there is no devil with a big stick in charge. There's no such thing.

      But there are selfish and ignorant people around with too much power handed to them by gullible people. Hence, we have nukes destroying a nation. No fantasy figure required, just good ole human corruption and greed.

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        when people say "mother nature", its not to be taken literally, as in one huge female shaped being that physically gave birth to all. Most religious people who use a bit of common sense see that all those terms are allegorical, dont you think? How many cultures have made symbols to represent the horrific or beneficent aspects of life, never supposing they represent a specific being? The argument could be ideological, yet here its largely semantic. Devil is in the details

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Awe Richard who will I use my light saber on if not some big guy with a massive big flaming stick strolling around as a very formable foe?

        If there is no Devil then it must be us, mankind, himself, that is/represents this pure evil we see and feel now permeating the entire life force..

        That's a very scary thought.. Ergo: Why we must all look directly into the mirror!

  • timemachine2020 timemachine2020

    Humans have not seen this whale species for the last 62 years. Got a pretty good idea why its being seen now. Running for its life with nowhere to go……………………..

  • Alpha1

    Why does everyone think when they push out to the next year they are safe!!!!!Maybe we should take a look at the findings in March of this year for radiation in the kelp off the coastlines of the US, Canada, Mexico, South America oh wait that is right everyone is gullible enough to believe the shit they are selling.

    They are selling and that is right you are buying check this out, anything they say has already happened they have postponed the news releases for over a year and a half and now you will pay and your children if you let them play in the water and surf are going to dye!!!!

    Here see for yourself:The Journal Environmental Science and Technology reports in a new study that the Fukushima radiation plume contacted North America at California “with greatest exposure in central and southern California”, and that Southern California’s seaweed tested over 500% higher for radioactive iodine-131 than anywhere else in the U.S. and Canada:

    Projected paths of the radioactive atmospheric plume emanating from the Fukushima reactors, best described as airborne particles or aerosols for 131I, 137Cs, and 35S, and subsequent atmospheric monitoring showed it coming in contact with the North American continent at California, with greatest exposure in central and southern California. Government monitoring sites in Anaheim (southern California) recorded peak airborne concentrations of 131I at 1.9 pCi m−3

    Anaheim is where Disneyland is located.

    EneNews summarizes the…

  • Alpha1

    This is as of March 28th 2012:

    Corona Del Mar (Highest in Southern California)

    2.5 Bq/gdwt (gram dry weight)= 2,500 Bq/kg of dry seaweed

    Santa Cruz (Highest in Central California)

    2.0 Bq/gdwt = 2,000 Bq/kg of dry seaweed

    Simon Fraser University in Canada also tested North American seaweed after Fukushima:

    “In samples of dehydrated seaweed taken on March 15 near the North Vancouver SeaBus terminal, the count was zero; on March 22 it was 310 Bq per kilogram; and by March 28 it was 380 Bq/kg.” -Vancouver Sun
    Seaweed in Seattle also tested positive for iodine-131; levels were not reported -KIRO
    No results after March 28 were reported

    In addition, radioactive debris is starting to wash up on the Pacific Coast. And because the Japanese are burning radioactive materials instead of disposing of them, radioactive rain-outs will continue for some time … even on the Pacific Coast.

    Of course, the government is doing everything it can to help citizens cover up what’s occurring. We pointed out in January:

    Instead of doing much to try to protect their citizens from Fukushima, Japan, the U.S. and the EU all just raised the radiation levels they deem “safe”.

    Nuclear expert Arnie Gundersen says that high-level friends in the State Department told him that Hillary Clinton signed a pact with her counterpart in Japan agreeing that the U.S. will continue buying seafood from Japan, despite that food not…

  • Alpha1

    We have been hit and now hit even harder: accumulative in Radioactive terms lets see until it sits alone without being disturbed and without more adding up it does not start to decay. Meaning it will accumulate till it stops accumulating it will collect and more and more time is added to that half life.

    However since nobody can see what is going on here it is spelled out:

    There 500 radio-nucleotides that a nuke creates not just one or 5 that they are squeaking about, the truth is heavy the damage no human can reverse U233 Half life 6.23 Billion years PU239, Half life 7.26 Billion years. Strontium 90 takes 180 years to break. do the research and the math!!!!