Pieces of Fukushima reactor cores still floating around, new study reveals — Hot particles with over 1 Quadrillion becquerels per kilogram detected — Radioactive materials contain Uranium, Polonium, Americium (VIDEO)

Published: August 8th, 2017 at 7:23 am ET


Science of the Total Environment, by Marco Kaltofen (Nuclear Science and Engineering Program, Department of Physics, Worcester Polytechnic Institute) and Arnie Gundersen (Fairewinds Energy Education), Dec 2017 (emphasis added): Radioactively-hot particles detected in dusts and soils from Northern Japan… Radioactive particles from Fukushima are tracked via dusts, soils, and sediments; Radioactive dust impacts are tracked in both Japan and the United States/Canada; Atypically-radioactive particles from reactor cores are identified in house dusts… After the March 11, 2011, nuclear reactor meltdowns at Fukushima Dai-ichi, 180 samples of Japanese particulate matter (dusts and surface soils) and 235 similar U.S. and Canadian samples were collected and analyzed… Samples were collected and analyzed over a five-year period, from 2011 to 2016. Detectable levels of 134Cs and 137Cs were found in 142 of 180 (80%) Japanese particulate matter samples… U.S. and Canadian samples had detectable 134Cs and 137Cs in one dust sample out of 32 collected, and four soils out of 74… The mean in Japan was skewed upward due to nine of the 180 (5%) samples with activities > 250 kBq kg− 1 [250,000 Bq/kg]… 300 individual radioactively-hot particles were identified in samples from Japan; composed of 1% or more of the elements cesium, americium, radium, polonium, thorium, tellurium, or strontium. Some particles reached specific activities in the MBq μg− 1 level and higher [1,000,000,000,000,000 Bq/kg]… Some of the hot particles detected in this study could cause significant radiation exposures to individuals if inhaled. Exposure models ignoring these isolated hot particles would potentially understate human radiation dose.

Fairewinds Press Release, Jul 27, 2017: Radioactively-Hot Particles in Japan; New Study Shows Full Radiation Risks are not Recorded… the article details the analysis of radioactively hot particles collected in Japan following the Fukushima Dai-ichi meltdowns. Based on 415 samples of radioactive dust from Japan, the USA, and Canada, the study identified a statistically meaningful number of samples that were considerably more radioactive than current radiation models anticipated. If ingested, these more radioactive particles increase the risk of suffering a future health problem…

Truthout, Aug 1, 2017: Radioactive Hot Particles Still Afloat Throughout Japan Six Year After Fukushima MeltdownsRadioactive particles of uranium, thorium, radium, cesium, strontium, polonium, tellurium and americium are still afloat throughout Northern Japan more than six years after… three full-blown nuclear meltdowns. That was the conclusion reached by two of the world’s leading radiation experts after conducting an extensive five-year monitoring project… 108 of the Japanese samples were taken in 2016, while the other 72 were gathered in 2011… “A majority of these samples were collected from locations in decontaminated zones cleared for habitation by the National Government of Japan,” the study revealed… In contrast to external X-rays, gamma, beta or alpha rays, hot particles are small mobile pieces of radioactive elements that can be breathed in, drunk or eaten in food. The fragments can then become lodged in bodily tissue where they will emanate high-intensity ionizing radiation for months or years, damaging and twisting cells, potentially causing myriad diseases and cancer… “Comparing external radiation to hot particles inside the body is an inappropriate analogy,” Gundersen toldEnviroNewsin an email. “Hot particles deliver a lot of energy to a very localized group of cells that surround them and can therefore cause significant localized cell damage.”…

Watch video presentation on study here

Published: August 8th, 2017 at 7:23 am ET


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470 comments to Pieces of Fukushima reactor cores still floating around, new study reveals — Hot particles with over 1 Quadrillion becquerels per kilogram detected — Radioactive materials contain Uranium, Polonium, Americium (VIDEO)

  • laconic93 laconic93

    Translation? The nuclear core was vaporized in a prompt critical nuclear detonation and Northern Japan including Tokyo is toast.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Already victims..to join the rest of the country, cowering under their hands.
    It's the end point isn't it?
    In the hands of North Korea, the US, Russia, Israel, etc..
    It's a mockery of life..

    Japan Prepares for North Korean Missile Strikes With Disaster Drills


    • if japan provokes or agent provocateurs a nuclear war with North Korean then that will solve their Fukushima problem, won't it? …in terms of public affairs.

      and korea doesn't need long range missiles to destroy the U.S., just use shoulder held rocket launchers or drones to blow up Japan's 64 reactors … that would take out the Pacific Northwest immediately with that fallout – though it might be death on the installment plan

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    That hot particles exist, is beyond doubt.

    They are measurable, and have the radiation-emiting characteristics of raw nuclear fuel.

    Which, in fact, they are.

    Hot particles are produced by the burning of dewatered nuclear spent fuel, or by explosion as occurred in Fukushima.

    Hot particles contain many atoms, with long half lives. They are quite energetic, over long periods of time.

    In the human body, hot particles are electrostatically attracted to lung cells. Once breathed in, they stay put.

    Hot particles ingested in food are similarly electrostatically attracted to cells in the gut walls.

    Mostly, hot particles produce alpha and beta radiation, and cannot be detected through the body wall.

    Sometimes, hot particles emit gamma radiation.

    Such hot particles can be detected by a regular Geiger counter, which measure gamma radiation blasting through the chest wall.

    Hot particles act like tiny machine guns, spraying radiation in all directions.

    If radiation hits a cell nucleus without killing the cell, the cell can turn cancerous, endangering life.

    • BanReactorsForever BanReactorsForever

      Note how Tepcon has been lying to everyone the entire time. They lied about rad releases. About meltdowns. About meltouts. About the spent fuel fires at reactor 4. Tepcon tried to bullshit us with that easily disprovable "reactor 4 spen fuel pool removal" video! Tepcon and the nukers are serial liars. We all know this. They have an established historical pattern of releasing false pics, vids and statements which are often not even from the same location. Dana and others have proved that the R4 sfp vids are fakes. Just look at the building!!! Why should we believe Tepcon is now suddenly showing the public truthful images of the current condition of Reactor 3??? Anyone can find pics of the exterior condition of reactor 3 after it went prof critical nuclear dirty bomb mode and EXPLODED with a massive black mushroom cloud blowing towards Tokyo that day. Do we really think that Tepcon is not just showing the public some "reactor 3" images that are, once again, just images from a different reactor? Tepcon has an established historical pattern of lying to the public. They lied about the meltdowns. They lied about the meltouts. They lied about radiation levels – repeatedly. They definitely lied about the R4 sfp vids. Why should we believe them now?

      • Ban, uh, because the Olympics must go on

        I am kind of feeling like the Olympics has turned into yet another Economic Hit Man operation.

      • Jaonth

        You're right that "Tepcon has been lying to everyone the entire time." But there's a much bigger truth behind that: the truthful facts on radiation toxicity have been carefully obfuscated for ages by all nations profiteering from nuclear energy, medical radiation, and nuclear weaponry, such as the US, France, Russia, India, or Japan.

        The conventional medical-dental industries and the nuclear-military industries (=the radiation cartel) have been, for well over half a century, perpetually lying about, and minimizing, the true toxicity of ionizing radiation (e.g resorting to false sneaky comparisons between radiation exposure from sunlight or an airplane flight to a dental or medical x-ray or the exposure to nuclear fallout, etc. to deliberately deceive the unwitting public) to avoid culpability for the huge number of deaths and injuries that they're responsible for (discussed and well referenced in the book "The Mammogram Myth" by Rolf Hefti — outline at http://www.supplements-and-health.com/mammograms.html ).

        You can recognize the global grip of this powerful big money cartel by the ominous absence in the reporting of the allied corporate mass media (the mainstream fake news media) about the ongoing severe disaster at Fukushima, or by any of the solid proofs about the frauds this criminal evil cartel is involved in. You can find out more about that from Dr. Chris Busby, Dr. Helen Caldicott and others who are not tied to the corrupt radiation cartel.

        • Jaonth, great comment. Somehow, we might be able to shame individual actors (TEPCO) into some proper response, but indeed, it is the overall Radiation Cartel and it's links to the big money big power interests all the way from Uranium mining, to Waste Site Cleanup.

    • "If radiation hits a cell nucleus without killing the cell, the cell can turn cancerous, endangering life."

      that's a very brilliant contribution – and helps explain the lesions, tumors and cancers Pacific Ocean mammals and all sea life forms are suffering, suspending in the sea, sinking to the bottom, and washing up dead and dying on West Coast shores from Alaska to Mexico

      also, I read the Chernobyl reports that radiation mutates viruses and bacterial to form new and mysterious diseases (currently in the U.S. the scientific community appears mute, but is it Westinghouse and G.E. owned by Toshiba and another Japanese firm that is co-owned by Microsoft or somebody — I'm losing it – I'll have to read my own book but am too tired to even look in the table of contents – I know I have enenews posts in there that sort out the current censorship here and in Japan


      • "Nuclear power can be shut down by enforcing regulations we have. But, the five Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) commissioners are political appointees vetted by the Nuclear Energy Institute (NEI), a pro-nuclear lobby.

        "<>Trump wants to build, buy and sell, ‘American’. But, nuclear power plants are now made in China, South Korea, and Japan in modular sections, then shipped to and assembled in other countries. The logo of an American company on a nuclear reactor does not mean American jobs are being created: Westinghouse is owned by Toshiba; General Electric is owned by Hitachi; Toshiba and Hitachi are Japanese companies, in Japan.
        <>We are not at all energy independent if we have nuclear power; ‘American’ uranium mines are owned by Russian companies; 20 percent of uranium running American nuclear power facilities comes from America, 80 percent from Russia, Australia and Canada."

        Arnie Gundersen and Grayson Webb on CCTV
        "nuclear consortia. American names General Electric and Westinghouse. General Electric is owned by Hitachi, Westinghouse by Toshiba (Japanese firms).

        • come to Congress, look like American companies …but components made in Japan, South Korea & China.
        • hear it’s good for American jobs, not true.
        • work is going to Japan, Korea and China.
        • international consortia line up for trillions in handouts from Congress."


      • Philip up north, forgot to credit your for that brilliant comment

        "If radiation hits a cell nucleus without killing the cell, the cell can turn cancerous, endangering life."

        Since mainstream media (disinformation – covert intelligence warfare tactic) is blaming all the new and mysterious diseases on global warming
        Chernobyl scientists citing 15 years of research that radionuclides mutate viruses and bacterial to form new and mysterious diseases

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    SimplyInfo photos of the Unit 3 pedestal interior are quite interesting.
    Looking up, we see intact control rods.
    This would indicate that the Unit 3 explosion did not occur inside the reactor vessel.
    The control rod photos may prove that the control rods were never deployed in Unit 3.
    Proper engineering would assure that if grid power is lost, the reactor would automatically scram, returning the control rods to their normally fully inserted position.
    Only a fool would place the control rods at the bottom of the reactor pile (rather than the top), and require a fully powered and fully functioning control room to scram the reactor and insert the control rods into the core.
    Design flaws?
    GE Mark 1 reactors need to be taken out of service immediately.
    What does the US have still operational?

    • there was an enenews comment several years back that ALL the GE Mark 1 reactors have settled lawsuits in the U.S. — and their engineers have known from day 1 the reactor had built in flaws and no failsafe systems

      • DUDe DUDe

        Yes dejapuke , nice work youve done , there where a few comments at least..iirc some engineers quitted because they could not stand being involved in such reckless behaviour..after their warnings where ignored by the CEO's or whatever higher up in the predatory foodchain..atoms for peace and all that..quickly..sell it now that they are still lukewarm..sieg heil for the shareholders..

        • DUDe — thank you. are you referring to the free pdf books at http://www.art-in-portland.mysite.com?

          as to sieg heil for the shareholders, you couldn't be more correct. ever see youtube videos of Anthony Sutton
          documented the communists and Nazis were both financed out of NYC. Very interesting. Also, John Loftus – the secret war against the jews///very misleading title, is really a covert-intelligence history of the last 125 years.

          The central banks owners (shareholders) that financed all that also financed and own the nuke energy industry (death machine)

          am getting kind of tired, might turn in. very glad I caught your reply

          • DUDe DUDe

            "..are you referring to the free pdf books at http://www.art-in-portland.mysite.com?&quot;

            Absolutely , nice work.

            The bankers has systematically sold humanity out on so many levels against itself nothing can make it funny again..rest well..

            • DUDe DUDe

              Couldent find a link to Enenews so quickly but here is another one..

              In 1976 3 GE Scientists quit in protest over flaws in Mark 1 Reactor design
              By Lefty Coaster
              Wednesday Mar 16, 2011


              • Stock! your comment In 1976 3 GE Scientists quit in protest over flaws in Mark 1 Reactor design
                By Lefty Coaster
                Wednesday Mar 16, 2011

                –thanks very much

                Hey, next time you correspond with Stock and/or NukePro? …can you send him to the book; the chapter Hillary Caught Poisoning U.S. Food Supply is directly in part from NukePro's excellent work — I credited NukePro and added some additional documentation to his work from enenews about Kissinger influencing Hillary to prevent Japan from going nuke-free by 2030 because it would displease "the administration", and added Hillary in turn as a thank you telling the Japanese the U.S. would not test Japanese food imports for radionuclides — and I added the FDA alerts telling what foods not to test — and added Obama's comments for the "Japanese" not to let Tepco's stock price fall anymore …and added that Obama's chief advisor was from one of the largest nuke firms as well as his p.r. person was from the same firm… am trying to thank NukePro and Stock as well //his work supplemented with my additions, which credits NukePro, was almost the cover of National Inquirer cause they are anti-Hillary pro-Trump …but because of U.S. Japanese media type fascism they couldn't mention fallout contaminated food — so I told them I would change the title to Trump caught covering up Hillary Poisoning U.S. Food Supply —

            • DUDe, thank you so much.

              Am not a fan of war: armed conflict; nuclear war; electronic/biological chemical; propaganda/disinformation/misinformation; covert action; financial/economic warfare. Not a fan at all.

              I would classify hot particles as unintentional warfare furthering unconventional warfare and financial warfare. good nite.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

      The earthquake broke the cooling pipes. So probably it broke the mechanism that allows the control rods to initiate a scram.

      There were explosions most probably in both the reactor core and the spent fuel pool–probably in the reactor core first.

  • Its All True Its All True

    I hate Japan on principle. It's been fairly easy to put most of the blame for the way the meltdowns have been handled on the Japanese government and Tepco(redundant?) As more and more reports, from at least semi-reliable sources, become available, it's no longer possible to do that. The governments of the rest of the world, the scientific community in general, and the mainstream media (no longer journalists, by any stretch of imagination) in particular, must shoulder their share of the blame. That share is enormous.

  • irhologram

    2 yrs. ago, we targeted Olympic athletes to serve as news media "hooks" raising public awareness, contacting athletes directly, launching a media PR campaign creating a "news story," and building continuing media coverage based on responses.

    I recommended waiting…until we had bite-sized info to release that was closer to the event.

    This "top-of-mind" window is what we were waiting for:
    "…considerably more radioactive than current radiation models anticipated. If ingested, these more radioactive particles increase the risk of suffering a future health problem…

    …"hot particles are small mobile pieces of radioactive elements that can be breathed in, drunk or eaten in food. The fragments can then become lodged in bodily tissue where they will emanate high-intensity ionizing radiation for months or years, damaging and twisting cells, potentially causing myriad diseases and cancer…

    ""Comparing external radiation to hot particles inside the body is an inappropriate analogy,” Gundersen toldEnviroNewsin an email. “Hot particles deliver a lot of energy to a very localized group of cells that surround them and can therefore cause significant localized cell damage.”…"

    An interview article was published in the magazine “Monthly Japan” (September 2015), titled "An honorable retreat from the Tokyo Olympic Games”. Reactions at that time were said to be "noteworthy and expanding…"


  • irhologram

    Assertions were that the Tokyo Olympic Games divert attention from Fukushima and give the the world the false impression to that Fukushima no longer poses a threat. The article opined that advancement of the Tokyo Olympic Games was at the expense of the funds needed to address environmental disasters created by the destroyed Fukushima nuclear

    The article states that the future of the Olympic Games themselves is at stake, because the very spirit of the Games and the Olympic Movement require an honorable retreat, and so that Japan can devote maximum effort to control the Fukushima crisis.


    I don't have time right now to re-outline the extensive campaign I presented here, complete with Olympic athletes, their contact info, and a long list of e-mail addresses for media mouthpieces.

    Here is a site to source athlete lists:

    When I suggested getting started on this, folks here said I was a pompous and controlling attention seeker, and that the idea of not continuing to nothing, but instead to "work" toward a better world was patently offensive to happy bloggers. Lol

    So…I just drop in from time to time with editorials about impacting stories… And watch you lot's pastime of tearing each other limb from limb. I do get nuggets now and then, but the "gold" is usually buried in a mountain of you know what. Lol

    • Ir, I took your Olympics comments here, and "stored" them in a published article. Let me know if you want anything added if you have time to find old stuff.


      • irhologram

        Stock. There are two typos I'd appreciate your correcting.
        Eliminate the word "to" in the 2nd post 2nd line. The location is "the false impression to that Fukushima no longer…" Take out the "to" if you wouldn't mind.

        Also add the word "do" in the sentence "the idea of not continuing to ("do") nothing." TY!

        Sure, I'll see what I can find. The problem is, I believe I lost them to a computer crash. I will look, but I'm fairly sure I posted them here…it might have been as far back as in 2014. I don't have any luck researching my past posts so…maybe someone who gets results might research to find my list of e-mail addresses that included national and larger metro level talk show and talking head hosts, as well as newspaper and magazine reporters, sports newsletter publishers, and internet news outlet, alternative journalists. It may also have been in stories regarding Hanford or WIPP. Just not sure.

        If it is lost, rebuilding it could be divided among us by region. We'd Google each TV, radio, newspaper or magazine outlet to be targeted, look on their "contact" page, "personality" page, and news/entertainment program schedules for e-mail addresses. Actually, any and all e-mail addresses listed are useful and FREE. Lol

        Good on you Stock. IN OUR LAPS this site is an avenue to create critical mass consciousness, because as long as its possible to go "viral" or get "buzz," all we need is an energizing idea and many hands to make light work.

        • IR, changes will be made
          Too bad the search function at ENE went to hell in a handbasket.

          That definitely degrades the value of prior "work" of which must work used to be done by many hands.

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    From the Japan Times:

    "According to Tepco spokesman Takahiro Kimoto, however, the images taken beneath the PCV indicate the pressure vessel probably withstood the heat of the molten fuel. He said the fuel apparently seeped through the holes for the control rods."

    ANY holes in the bottom of the RPV constitute a design flaw.
    The Reactor Pressure Vessel DID NOT CONTAIN THE CORIUM.
    Design Flaw

    • Ya PUN it is hilarious in a sick way, how they are trying to be "Reactor Vessel Apologists".

      And I been jousting with some USA Mark 1 operators with arrogance and attitudes about how good their systems are.

      • Hanford is a Mark 1, and babies to this day are being born there without brains, according to local morticians. Hanford is NE of Portland as the crow flies about 50 miles give or take … and the little nuclear research reactor at Reed College a 5 miles away is …let me check real quick — that didn't take long —–It is a pool-type TRIGA Mark I reactor, built by General Atomics in 1968 and operated since then under licence from the Nuclear Regulatory …
        however, Reed doesn't have a science or physics departments and lets college kids run the reactor — however the nuclear fuel rods were leaking some years back and they replaced them WITHOUT A MENTION OF TRITIUM == which in its gaseous, liquid and I believe solid forms bonds with the water molecule, that is to say, the H in Tritium replaces the H in water H20; therefore you can not remove Tritium from water, because it IS the water . And, the radiation wavelength of Tritium is very short, only about the width of DNA, which is sufficient to tear up the DNA and cause mutations. So, if there is a 25 mile radius around a large reactor where women, in utero life, babies and girls (more than men or boys) get cancer, one can allege that around a small washing-machine sized reactor, the distance is about 300 yards, just enough to allegedly poison the entire student body of Reed College and the faculty and nearest neighbors. btw, always use the word allege so one can't be sued … do not state definitely this or that …allege…

  • If people bother to read the study or listen to the audio in the fake study they find out a different story . They claim nothing made it to Canada or USA .

    Yet if Arnie who says reactor 4 fuel pool was saved which is ludicrous to suggest by the way farts ENEWS has to post and claim it was beautiful along with the lapdogs in the comment section . No wonder we are seeing the death of the pacific ocean now , creepy lowlife cowards afraid to hold Gunderson and crew accountable is our harbinger of death by radiation .

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

      Gunderson – Seattle Residents Breathed Ten 'Hot' Particles A Day
      Jun 6, 2011

      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

        Hot particles are difficult to detect.

        Arnie Gundersen: The Hottest Particle (04/03/2014)
        Published on Apr 3, 2014
        http://fairewinds.org/ Three years ago, Fairewinds was one of the first organizations to talk about "hot particles" that are scattered all over Japan and North America's west coast. Hot particles are dangerous and difficult to detect. In this video Mr. Kaltofen discusses the hottest hot particle he has ever found, and it was discovered more than 300 miles from the Fukushima Daiichi site. If Fairewinds Energy Education was a Japanese website, the State Secrets Law would likely prevent us from issuing this video. Arnie Gundersen provides a brief introduction and summary to the video.”

        Do you know what equipment is needed to detect hot particles and what density on the ground they need to be to detect them Do you know how expensive the equipment is and that the equipment is large and immobile? Taking soil samples in bags and then taking them to the lab ca entirely miss the hot particles. And then how does one measure hot particles in the air?

    • BanReactorsForever BanReactorsForever

      I agree with Dana's point that reactor 4 sfp removal never happened. The fuel burned up in radioactive fuel fires. We saw the vid cam images. They had to evac the site during the fires because the radiation was so high. This all happened. The bs vids are so obviously taken in an entirely different building than the structurally shattered post-explosion Fuku R4 bldg. We've all gone through this on ene. There is no way they removed the fuel at R4 sfp.

  • Cooter

    Almost 2 weeks ago I posted this article by Arnie G., dated July 27 and now Admin woke up and posted my researched work. Great going Grant, you have now sunk to new lows and figured out that the site commentators postings are yours and claim it as your own research. This is not new news, it is stolen old news. CS was the only one to respond to my post.

    July 27, 2017 at 3:36 pm · Reply
    Hot particles found in surrounding area around Fukushima.

    Still driving that 2009, Volkswagen Jetta, FL. plate MCN 801?
    Osprey Creek address still good?

    Contact me, you have my email address and sell ENE. It deserves better than what you are currently doing, which is nothing. You have time to promote M.C.T. but not ENE? The more this site is neglected the lower the sale price. Think about it.

    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

      BAD LINK. Here is the orig.

      July 27, 2017 at 3:36 pm · Reply
      Hot particles found in surrounding area around Fukushima.


      Were you wrong then, in your assumptions/allegations of "sale of site to nuke industry"?

      And you want credit for the latest headlines, referring to them as "stolen"?

      And, now, you publish license numbers and demand to buy the site?

      And the "owner" still allows you to post?


      Wait….What? LOL

      • Cooter

        Answer: NO,
        Answer: I posted this article by Arnie.
        Answer: Grant Grand drove this vehicles in 2014
        Answer: I don't demand anything you shithead, you make stuff up.
        Answer: The owner still allows YOU to post?
        Answer: This is the wild wild West, look at your buddy FM, he still posts.
        Answer: To save ENE from going down the shitter, which you care nothing about, or would do something other than post crap that nobody cares about.

        I stand by my statements and you can make up stories all day long, which you are good at; assuming this and that, ask this, insinuate that. Read what I posted and make up any fairy tale you wish.

        I know that FM is a SAI, period.
        I know where Grant lives and his working phone no.
        I know that Grant was the last owner of ENE.
        I know the kind of dog he owns.
        I know the country clubs he is a member of. Shall I go on? I have over 100 hours of research and documents to prove everything that I write.
        I know a hell of lot more about Grant Grand than you will ever know and I have enough money to buy this site outright.

        Attack if you want, it will get you nowhere. Get some glasses that aren't rose colored and oh by the way, get a room with A17. You two are 2 peas in a pod.


    • irhologram

      Cooter This is a passively managed site. Its value is obviously not monetary. What would be the reasoning in continued sponsorship of a purposely fallowed field? Several here, like Stock, for instance, believe the site is akin to controlled opposition. That logic could work to a small degree, considering a handful of the stories carried, but there's just not enough evidence by any means to say ENE is a pro-nuke disinfo site.

      My take is this surely is an energy site…whose purpose may be to…drain off the emotional and synergistic energy that committed folks would otherwise use in constructively uniting their voices in the real world. Instead of coelescing in reality-based action and subsequent widening of influence and awakening…the perception is we lot are doing our part.

      I've seen folks post here that this virtual reality site is a mighty platform for their "work," and the research that they post here is their huge contribution to making a difference.

      Many have posted articles that were used weeks later…including me. I don't own the news, and having it first isn't the real point in an energy/nuke discussion. But a take away from your post is that you believe the purpose of the site is to make money. The next conclusion would be that the purpose is to educate as many folks as possible. Based on results, neither theory can be true.

      So…why WOULD a site go stagnant, souring its posters against one another in a com-post pile?

      • IR stock here, I may have the wrong impression of "controlled opposition" and I used it to mean "controlled by the opposition" and also think your second paragraph sums it up nicely enough.

        The original owner does continue to post daily on the Martin County Times, another site run on the same IP / Domain name

      • AirSepTech AirSepTech

        Owner of the site has lost interest in the site.
        Number of new posts/maintenance of functions.

        Seems pretty clear.

        • It may be that simple, but then why not let it die completely, why hang as the value, credibility, prior glory are tarnished into a heap of com-post

          • AirSepTech AirSepTech

            I guess it depends on who owns the site, doesn't it?
            Come to think of it, somebody was looking into that.

            Now it appears that the same person has owned it all along.
            Am I just confused?

            Why do people buy a new Mercedes Benz, new Cadillacs, and not take care of them, running them right into the ground?
            A new home never maintaining it?

            They lose interest in it, and there are as many reasons for that as there are answers.

            • I never expected to find a "smoking gun" or a contract with a new owner. Evidence is circumstantial.

              But why go put a nice new coat of wax on that Mercedes, when the wheel has already fallen off.

              Why put any effort into it?

              • Nor should anyone have expected for anyone to come up with a "smoking gun" related to proof of ownership.

                "Proof" of other theories is taken as pretty much for sure fact, with far less circumstantial evidence than exists here.

                Funny how the AI thing, and the "internet gatekeepers" meme has taken off since the first hypothesis of an ENE as controlled. and I don't mean just here, all over the internet. ENE remains relevant (in at least that way)

                MY "peeps" are looking at a winter timeframe for an elaborate report on AI SAI. Looks like there are 4 or 5 people willing to put in some efforts. Its deserving of several hundred hours at least. Its the electronic jack boot on the throat forever "issue"

              • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                "Why put any effort into it?"

                Guilt? Remorse for not being 'into' it? IDK

                As far as the forums/comments, the site has never had the 'credibility factor' that I would have thought the 'owner', putting effort into the body of info posted, would logically allow.

                Seemed to be some 'lack of interest', from the beginning. And recently, I would say about 0. JMO

        • irhologram

          The two Google ads are the entire income of this site (You don't really think folks donate anymore, do you?) The ads pay only on click throughs? Yes? Some of these folks hang here all day…so not a whole lot of traffic (unique eyes) even though there are multiple entries by post junkies.

          And yet the formula for valuation when selling a business is usually annual gross times 2 1/2 years…am I correct? That would mean the monthly income is $266.666666, considering the $8K valuation. So…maybe the site does still produce a small income. Who posted the valuation of $8000? Do we know that's correct?

          What arrangement would Grant have with Google to get unlimited free hosting that subsidizes continuation of a failed milti-level, archived,site,with aggregated comments?

          Maybe Google figures in to the ENE "purpose?" Or not.

      • Cooter

        IR, This has always been a good site for the exchange of information and is unregulated at present, unruly and at times disgusting to read the garbage out others mouths.

        There is an audience of 20 commentators who post anything about everything but the issue at hand. Self gratification too an addiction that few care about.

        Would someone who does not post here and happens upon this site want to read 4,000 posts?

        ENE is not a pro-nuke site but within the chaos of this site it becomes relevant to only those who comment here. So much for getting the word out into the WWW.

        How many good commenters have left? 90% are gone for good or look in every once in awhile but never post. Why not get the 90% back with a functioning site?

        What's so wrong with that? Or maybe folks want to learn about the flat earth or hollow earth or flat moon that took up 60 postings. Is this what we want to discuss or is it just disgusting?

  • Why is this "on topic"? Because the mass collusion /coverup of Fukushima plays into the "don't worry / be happy and buy stuff" as we pull off a Centralized World Government.

    When the "Pope" (in quotes, because he is a terrible fraud") came out during Pizza Gate and told people that focusing on bad news was, literally, the same as eating shit…well it was obvious how close we were getting to the truth and the perpetrators.

    stock out, rest from ZH
    Not only is Pope Francis a Christian fraud as Vladimir Putin and other perceptive commentators have observed, but in secular matters he is a neo-Marxist in economic thought, a One-World Government advocate, and an enthusiast of open borders and mass migration. In other words, an enemy of what is left of Western Civilization.

    Mr. Putin accurately describes his “secular sins:”

    Pope Francis is using his platform to push a dangerous far-left political ideology on vulnerable people around the world, people who trust him because of his position
    He dreams of a world government and a global communist system of repression
    As we have seen before in communist states, this system is not compatible with Christianity**

    If these despicable qualities are not bad enough, there is a seedier side of Bergoglio that Mr. Putin did not address. Pope Francis is now the third Paedophile Pope who has presided over the Church’s Great Sex and…

    • http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-07/vladimir-great-sums-pope-francis-fake

      either Francis, or his two derelict predecessors (Benedict XVI, JPII) have done anything to either punish or root out the child predators under their charge. On the contrary, Francis has encouraged perversion with his now infamous statement of “who am I to judge.”

      The debauchery continues to take place with the latest coming right under the nose of the Argentine heretic. An apartment occupied by the secretary of the Pontifical Council for the Interpretation of Legislative Texts, Franecesco Coccopalmerio, was raided in July to break up a “gay” orgy. The police found drugs and men engaged in orgiastic sex.

      Coccopalmerio, who Bergoglio had considered for promotion to bishop, was hauled away and jailed by authorities.

      This came on the heels of Cardinal George Pell, the Vatican’s Chief Financial Officer, being charged with sex crimes against ten children. Pell has since left Rome in disgrace for his native Australia to answer the charges.

  • New Zealand, in the supposedly safer southern hemisphere, also has lots of whale deaths/standings

    Anyone with any great theories why? If we are thinking Fukushima for the Pacific what of NZ and what of the Atlantic UME (that by the way, they never answered my question / repeated demand for them to provide the Plan methods and Plan Participants.


  • The idea that internet communication and stories are being "controlled" is now going pretty viral, at least among the "conspiracy" sites that I frequent.


    The main Internet gatekeepers and causes for concern are Google (GOOG), Facebook (FB), Twitter (TWTR), and Microsoft (MSFT) – together, GFTM.
    Internet Gatekeepers’ Misconduct

    Google locked conservative University of Toronto professor Jordan B. Peterson out of all his Google accounts. The probable cause is his dissent with the identity politics of the Left, especially his opposition to the mandatory use of “gender neutral pronouns.”

  • Its also pretty clear that FMM strategy is to not just disrupt, but to nurture certain swing votes/ 'relationships', and lure others into helping him disrupt, and helping him attack others.

  • Back to the AI and internet Gatekeepers…. YouTube is one of them


    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      I checked the weather patterns and we have about a week before the initial Nuclear fallout will hit us here in the U.S. after we launch and they launch and then it becomes a "group event" for Asia.

      God will prevail and shield us from harm according to Tillerson, since that is who he says he is working for.

      Maybe the Jet Stream wind patterns will reverse and flow west instead of east like they do now..never know.

      What a few more radioactive particles in our lungs anyways?

      • Obe in that event its not the hot particles, its the nuclear winter that will be the "less than 1 year" survival no matter how well prepared you are.

        Including the supposed underground city dwellers

        I wonder why "underground" sounds like a safe place to live, where do you route your septic system to?

      • LOL but I did top off all my vehicles, gas storage, and LPG, and still got 13 cords of oak, lol

  • razzz razzz

    TEPCO thinks graphite melts? It vaporizes. At what temperature? Over 7,0000F degrees. Unless they know something else was going on inside Unit 3's reactor vessel (higher pressures, etc) they are still guessing to what happened.

    Mock setups for meltdowns show fuel melts and collects in a blob to heat up the bottom of the reactor vessel then blasts out the bottom all at once with the help of overpressure from off-gassing. The iron bottom of the reactor vessel is going to glow red and give way long before any graphite does.

    Unit 2 shows a hole in the grating from a hot blob passing thru. I suppose outer fringes of the reactor bottom might survive with some control rods and drive equipment intact below.

    Simplyinfo has a pic of Unit 5's pedestal area in pristine condition to compare against.

    From what I read, after Unit 4 blew, then Unit 3 pressures dropped. Possibly showing they might have been linked via tunnels and piping.

    Doubt Unit 4's pool was ever hot enough to meltdown so melted fuel fallout releases were less possible. Might have been a lot of off-gassing (rod tube pressure failure) and some zirconium reactions there but not a lot of irradiation like at Unit 3 (neutron bombardment).

    Still would like to know where all the scattered fuel pellets came from.

    Unit 3's spent fuel condition will be hidden with the new cover being put in place.

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      razzz if you run past that info about U3 pressure reducing when U4 blew, make sure you post it. Ive never seen that, that I recall.

      This is not to go against your info about vaporization of graphite but I have seen graphite melted somehow with my own eyes. It looked like a black moon surface. Related to a nuclear reaction…

      How can we know what the conditions in U4 sfp were? If there was a freshly unloaded fuel load, then how different is it than fuel in a shutdown RPV? Except no RPV pressure. Recall that large releases have been reported in the literature from U4. Also high neutron flux was reported there also

      • Methinks the scattered fuel pellets at R4 shown in the header of my website, were experimental MOX they were planning on tossing into R4, recently souped up with a new reactor shroud, sitting on top of the used fuel. Many looked barely damaged.

      • razzz razzz

        CodeShutdown & stock: I thought I covered unknown scenarios with TEPCO not telling us what other conditions might have taken place during 3's meltdown. Graphite does act differently when under pressure, under great pressure. So do other elements esp. Pu which has known odd properties in a short temperature range, not including what might go on during a reactor meltdown. Looks like scientists will have to rewrite the book on Pu properties when interacting with seawater besides air being introduced at high temperatures (oxidation or air derived from seawater). U has self pyro properties also.

        I have no doubt after 4's shroud replacement, MOX fuel would be loaded into it at some point but the reactor requires further upgrades like more control rods (blades) because MOX burns hotter.

        Recently read a .pdf, I think it was a TEPCO timeline or assessment of the disaster that noted a drop in pressure of Unit 3 (maybe all the Units) when Unit 4 blew up. When I find it again, I will post it.

        More and more information is becoming a direct .pdf link, no website or website discussions. Here's one showing the flooding levels that took place at Daiichi, page 7, which puts the reactor pedestal floors slightly above sea level.

        Little talked about is TEPCO delaying actions like they thought the Daiichi reactors could be saved and started back up.

        • razzz razzz

          Unit 4's spent fuel pool problem was not the age of the removed core load during reactor shroud upgrading but storing it in a pool that was meant for say, only a core load of 550 assemblies. Then it already had 1,000 or so assemblies before the extra reactor core was added.

          The shroud replacement had been going on for a year or so the removed core fuel was cooler than had a fresher load been placed for storage.

          The main problem with TEPCO's infinite wisdom, was overloading the pool past design limits. Not enough water safety margin to cool all those extra fuel rod assemblies besides added deadweight.
          Sloshing out of pool water during the quake did not help the situation either.

          Not to mention, Unit 4's reactor vessel slumped during hardening when a brace to hold its shape slipped, causing a thinning of the vessel wall in some areas. Seemed not a good MOX fuel candidate.

          Daiichi reactors should have been retired but shroud replacement was pioneered by TEPCO aka GE to further extend operational life (cheaper than building a new reactor or so they thought).

        • razzz razzz

          I find this 'Final Report' inadequate but what do I know?

          "…Next, it is possible that PCV venting at Unit 3 caused vent flows containing hydrogen to be released into the air from the Unit 3 SGTS pipes through the stack, and that after passing
          through the pipe merging point, the hydrogen vent flow entered the Unit 4 R/B from the Unit 4 SGTS pipes. Under this scenario, however, considering the loss of pressure as a result of flow
          resistance, it would be necessary to calculate the amount of fluid flowing into the stack and the amount flowing into the Unit 4 R/B. The following are calculations derived based on interviews
          with the plant manufacturer…"

          • Well didn't they show (and prove) the bladder at the top of the stack didn't break?

            So there was no place for the gasses to go except into the other building.

            The glaring truth here is the bladder didn't break because the pressures at the op of the stack weren't high enough to break the plug.

            This would also prove beyond doubt a broken stack pipe from the earthquake and has been suppressed to keep the lie going that the earthquake didn't cause this disaster.

          • razzz, the vent pipe that went from 3 to the common stack, and 4 to the common stack was blown to shit when 3 went, many pictures confirm that.

            So to pretend the hydrogen from 3 flowed to 4, causing a helium explosion so large that the video had to be "sequestered by military force" and forever hid, or preferably destroyed with such prejudice that it could never see the light of day….

            By I did "Ears up" on the pressure at 3 (I assume reactor vessel) went down when 4 blew. However with meltout through 3, stretched reactor head bolts, and bent concrete plug….find it pretty hard to believe 3 was holding any pressure. And links would be great though.

            • Hum…..

              They had a FRESH (don't know how strongly I can say it) CORE OFFLOAD IN 4 and that's why it didn't blow out the top…

              Boiling water, then dry and then fire…

              Oh yea and I saw a broken stack pipe or two (or 3) and 3 MAJOR explosions close together and in short order…

              Recon this one messed anything up?


              …But don't take my word for it, look it up in the record.


              • HD, I believe that you misunderstand my point and/or sarcasm

                your link video is to Reactor 1 blowing up, not the subject matter here, was that just a mistake by you?

                BTW your link to the general FOIA documents is pretty useless. If you want to link something, provide a specific link, or else don't pretend you are "providing a link"

              • They also (spidey sense and shroud work) had a load of MOX, and also likely experimental MOX ready to load into 4

                Them thar frisky neutrons should not be trusted.

          • razzz, except that the vent pipe was blown to shit, disconnected completely. Their calcs are based on a connected pipe, it wasn't

            • Nopper the pipe was broken by swaying either before or after the wave hit…

              …that's the big sticking point here.

              Before or after doesn't matter to a child with cancer or some other debilitating disease…

              Ever storm surfed on a board in the ocean?

              All those hippies aren't kiddin ya when they say…

              Everyday Is A Winding Road:

            • HD regardless of cause, the pipe was broke, hydrogen from 3 DID NOT fill 4

              • I spec. the it was a mad house nightmare never before thought of..

                And then…

                …don't have any way to know proven:

                Would spec myself (The hippie) that the tops of the stacks (insane thinking anyway) were a last ditch (show dowg) way to call it safe…

                …how bout that.

                A stack to flush the core out into the atmosphere? In your neighborhood? For your kids to eat?????

                That system could never be used without death and disease…

                …from the time they were built 🙁

                How about that…

                Michelle Branch & Santana – I'm Feeling You:

                • Ya, stack for emergency venting the volatiles off the core so explosion doesnt happen, that comes after the dump to the Torus, and if that doesnt remove enough heat they have a heat exchanger on the Torus to try to keep things below system rupture pressures….if that is going to fail they vent.

                  Pilgrim was at the last step 2 years ago…the Torus heat exchanger worked.

                  Got an article on that one, it was close!

    • razzz, I didnt verify for Fuku, but nuclear fuel is usually UO2, melts at 5189F. But in the presence of oxygen (air or water) it will turn back in U3O8 at around 1600F, which will then melt at 2100F,

      which then boils to U02 (again) at 2370F.

      With MOX they also have PuO2 which melts at 2744F, but just milliseconds later in a uncontrolled chain reaction, will turn to gas at 2800F

      hmmmm, do ya thinks all that Pu may have been gifted to the atmosphere via stretched reactor bolts and the most of it that melted through the reactor vessel and then "flashed off" to a gas just 56F after turning to a melt?

      Did that massive pressure increase when turning into a gas, compress all the water vapor, thus changing the "reactivity" and thus creating a Moderated Prompt Criticality.

  • stock here — The Nukists did not understand a very important property of "the most dangerous element on earth" that they were "playing with". That element being Plutonium in PuO2 form.

    Research released in Sept 2011 (6 months after Fukushima) showed a decrease in the temperature difference between melting and boiling (gas) point. Prior to Fukushima, they thought they had a "comfort zone" of 350F, but after Fukushima their tests showed the comfort zone was a lot less comfortably at just 56F.

    So Plutonium can rapidly flash from a solid to a gas!

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    But not if Fedex ships it for Oak Ridge. They have special shipping grade PU

  • DUDe DUDe

    Environmental defenders being killed in record numbers globally, new research reveals

    Exclusive Activists, wildlife rangers and indigenous leaders are dying violently at the rate of about four a week, with a growing sense around the world that ‘anyone can kill environmental defenders without repercussions’

    Two hundred environmental activists, wildlife rangers and indigenous leaders trying to protect their land were killed in 2016, according to the watchdog group Global Witness – more than double the number killed five years ago.

    And the frequency of killings is only increasing as 2017 ticks by, according to data provided exclusively to the Guardian, with 98 killings identified in the first five months of this year.
    The defenders: recording the deaths of environmental defenders around the world
    Read more

    John Knox, UN special rapporteur on human rights and the environment, said: “Human rights are being jettisoned as a culture of impunity is developing.

    “There is now an overwhelming incentive to wreck the environment for economic reasons. The people most at risk are people who are already marginalised and excluded from politics and judicial redress, and are dependent on the environment. The countries do not respect the rule of law. Everywhere in the world, defenders are facing threats.


    • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

      Isn't that wonderful, because conservationists aren't hard enough to find, as it is.

      Soon there will be like one guy left saying "you guys, maybe this idea of trying to exploit nature isn't such a great idea". He'll be called a disruptive terrorist and summarily executed.

      • DUDe DUDe

        Indeed , that's how it goes..and everybody knows..sings and dances..but never REALIZES this is happening all NOW..NOT TOMMOROW AS A BAD NIGHTMARE WE CAN SHAKE OFF..NOW..WE ARE IN A MULTY-FACETTED SIXTH GREAT EXTINCTION AND IT IS NOW..MANMADE..THE MATERIALIZATION OF ALL OUR FLAWS AS A SHORTLIVED SPECIES..and the various reasons it contains unsustainable variables especially if considered its potential exponentiallity in its evolutionairy trial or error code or the result of intervenings in dna..dna compass..but tragically..as a species..WE WILL take out all other current and future species from unpolluted paradise with us..in our current way's..
        A novelty as it were..three pound brain apeman..cognitive dissonance..

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      That's about 99 percent of humans now. Some more than others. Lawsuits are an expensive proposition.

      Having your own mercenaries or armies is not affordable for most, either.

      They cut down the forests, and then say there is too much CO2.

      Go figure. We don't stand a chance. If God were to help, it would be our only chance.

      Some would argue that if that's our only chance, we have none.

    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Think this one is preventable?

      Wonder who created all this Nuclear stuff flying around the world?

      Guam, which is roughly 2,128 miles from North Korea, is home to both Andersen Air Force Base and Naval Base Guam housing thousands of American service members and their families.
      Roughly 28 percent of the island is occupied by the U.S. military. The base houses bomber assurance and deterrence missions, including six B-52s which the air force says provide 'strategic global strike capability [to] deter potential adversaries and provide reassurance to allies' and that they are ready to go.
      In another statement citing a different military spokesman, North Korea also said it could carry out a pre-emptive operation if the U.S. showed signs of provocation.

      Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4771226/We-tough-decisive-Trump-says-NK-threat.html#ixzz4pECljycu
      Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    'Fukushima Nuclear 2 Meter Hole In Unit 2 Reactor Floor'!!

  • DUDe DUDe

    Fukushima Japan Nuclear meltdown,
    4/9/11 kevin d blanch NUCLEAR FALLOUT is not Pollution

  • DUDe DUDe

    ‘Aspiring Pastor’ Hillary Goes From Seances And SpiritCooks To Bible Thumping For Votes

    “Hillary Clinton wants to preach. That’s what she told Bill Shillady, her longtime pastor, at a recent photo shoot for his new book about the daily devotionals he sent her during the 2016 campaign. Scattered bits of reporting suggest that ministry has always been a secret dream of the two-time presidential candidate:

    Because what better way to make people forget about a massive pay-for-play scheme, raping Haiti, and a bitchy image than God?


  • laconic93 laconic93


    Yeah they take us for fools, like we can't calculate that if plutonium was found in workers lungs it didn't escape into the environment.

  • PlowboyGrownUp

    Lots of planes in the air. But I haven't looked at it much.

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      All fallout is very very low and not a risk to public health. This is due to nuclear bomb monetization.

      They will never ever tell you it is a threat to the public health because "the public is too big too fail" So, ninety percent die, there is still no threat to the public. There will still be a public. Only when the population of earth gets down to one man and one woman, and there is a threat to their health, then there will be a threat to the public, but no one will be around to warn them.

      We need to get a law that the government has to address whether or not fallout is a threat to any individual.

      This giant lawyer loophole must be closed.

      Reference to "the public" should be prohibited. We are the people.

      We need to make them swear there is not a threat to THE PEOPLE

  • Jebus Jebus

    The other parts.

    Colon cancer deaths rise among younger adults, and no one knows why


    Atoms for Peace.

    Pieces from Atoms…

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      It's global warming, and CO2. There was no CO2 until modern times. Probably all the CO2 came from solar panels, and windmills.

      On the other hand, time tested clean and safe stuff like GMOs and Nuclear power have been with us since God created the earth and saw that it was good.

      It's all downhill from there.


    • I do…

      The lack of sunlight and exercise, the lack of basic nutrients in a cheeseburger lifestyle diet and all the new never before seen poisons in our environment are the main factors and causes…

      If shutting down the electric grid would fix these problems without creating riot (and a whole lot of other problems) that one thing would be the cure…

      Is electricity production the actual "beast" spoken of in the Bible?

      666? Cesium isotopes detected with gamma spec?

      The world will never know (at least until it's too late)…


  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Science of The Total Environment

    Volumes 607–608, 31 December 2017, Pages 1065–1072


    That's where admin has been. Back to the future, This coming

    December. Do they still have Christmas? I heard we ran out.

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    With all the hot particles Gunderson has said fell on Seattle, taking into account the half-life of these particles there should be plenty around yet. Car filters and people only can take in a tiny fraction of them.

    I smell a rat. The rat is right there in front of me chewing on my nose. No immediate threat to the public health. Just me. How about they dig up some rats from Fukushima rice fields and test them.

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      uni, see below where the number of dust particles with radiation from fukushima can be extrapolated from Arnies findings as half a million per cubic meter of air.

      The person that said there was zero background radiation in Texas was flat out wrong

      People here are taking Busby and Arnie out of context. That isnt good. What you want to find out is what they actually THINK if you want to find them wrong or right

      Arnie and Kaltofen seem to go with the ICRP dose model. Busby and group are the ones that are trying to bust it. That makes Busby more on track

      THe important finding is not that there is only half a million radioactive dust particles per cubic meter potentially in the air of north america but that EIGHTY FRICKEN PERCENT of the dust is fallout in those test areas of Japan. ITs a nightmare with unimaginable suffering to come

      • Yep! Study actual readings, find the correlating known tests, do the math (and I personally think you need to adjust your numbers) and you will find the truth for yourself…

        These things WILL help you to help your's…

        That's how you help as one person…

        …and do it one person at a time.

        With real proven reads and data…

        The answer is rarely the same in two different spots, but it's your answer, for your environment and for your family.

        I like the tube GM for daily monitoring…

        A RO 5 stage water filter (for cooking, washing vegetables and drinking)…

        Charcoal filters on the shower heads…

        And normal whole foods diet (sometimes even leeching potatoes).

        No supplements.

        But that works for me, doesn't prove it'll work for you…

        A little jam…

        Stevie Wonder – Have A Talk With God:

      • unincredulous unincredulous

        zero background radiation in Texas. Wish I could remember who it was. An old timer talking about the 1930s or something. Near zero

  • Jebus Jebus

    I see it as odd that the focus is on extropolating something, anything, from a paper, submitted, to be published in a journal, by two who are saying there are, hot particles, closer to where these recent hot particles were/are sourced.

    Just because they don't say something doesn't mean something.

    One's brain should tell one's self that hot particles are in the food, air, and water, there, which precludes the thought that they are increasingly everywhere, by wind or by sail, in an ever expanding circle of contamination from the point source…

    Thank you for the information Arnie and Marco…

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Arnie Gunderson says that the hot particles are very hard to detect unless there are a lot of them together. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBEipg81uLw That doesn't mean they are not there.

    The people in Japan that take responsibility for the safety of their food have expressed frustration because hot particles may be within a few feet, but you can't detect them. Recently, I read that on an Asyura2 dot com article. I posted it on that last article, before this one.

    So, whoever sent in samples just happened to not stumble on a hot particle and send it to the researchers.

    If it was me, I would go to Seattle and take samples from cracks in sidewalks where water pools. And find filters removed from factory air filters. Maybe there is a factory there that closed down in the last few years that never got around to changing the filters after shutting down.

    A paper like this should include statements on where the sample came from. A filter still in the box should not count. Not that it happened?

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      hot particles repost; its possible to calculate 16 million radioactive particles in a room in Canada/US from the paper as follows

      from the article;
      "four of the 235 dust samples tested in the United States and Canada had detectable levels of cesium from Fukushima"

      quantity of dust in average urban environment;
      "the ambient air outside in a typical urban environment contains 35,000,000 particles per cubic meter"

      So 4/235 = 0.017 fuku hot particles per bulk dust sample. Multiply by dust in air; 0.017 x 35 million = 596,000 particles with cesium from Fukushima in the average U.S./canada urban cubic meter of air.

      How many possible hot particles in a room? Room has say 27 cubic meters, so multiply 27 x 596,000 = 16,000,000

      Thats about 16 million radioactive particles in a room, (if it were as dusty as the outdoors) of potential hot particles. Now, it seems like the urban air has too many dust particles…but think that the samples came from car and air filters…urban.

    • razzz razzz

      Given what Arnie had to work with, volunteered samples, he can only reach certain conclusions. Basically, parts of Japan are highly contaminated. The US not so much according to a few soil samples.

      Remember those Hanford pics when they were demolishing the Pu button processing plant with that huge glove box and I commented that there was no temporary containment in place like a tent while heavy equipment wrecked out the building. Well, so far 20% of those workers involved inhaled plutonium. Hit and miss or Russian roulette.

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Did a search with terms "radiation from fukushima in the united states" No harm. No harm. No harm. No harm. No harm. Ooops http://www.globalresearch.ca/28-signs-that-the-west-coast-is-being-absolutely-fried-with-nuclear-radiation-from-fukushima/5355280 no harm. oops. http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/38913-seaborne-fukushima-radiation-plume-hit-west-coast-corporate-media-reported-it-dangerously Then there is this one from Beachopedia, whatever that is: Notice several references to Deep Sea News. I think I saw reference to denial of the ocean floor being covered with sea snot. But that reminded me of a story in Deep Sea News, where that yachtsman sailing across the pacific found the ocean devoid of life for a few thousand miles. That one seems to have disappeared. Maybe. I don't see it.

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    And Dana has a good point about Busby. Busby says Japan is just too far away to bring harm to America by Fukushima radiation.


    Oh, I see, only that evil CO2 can travel all the way to America from China, on the other side of Japan.

    Japan CO2 probably doesn't make it to America, because it can't get a reservation —- China has air travel booked for the next 500 years or so.

    So am I anti= Busby? No. But Dana is right? Where the hell does Busby get off with that too far assertion?

    Sad that Dana is not even a scientist and he makes more sense than the accredited guys, at times.

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

      http://enenews.com/piecDo you have a link for Busby saying that?

      • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

        The clip is in Dana's video.

        About here:

        • Wow so to Quote Busby himself…

          "It's hard to believe there has been a 5 fold increase in NATURAL background radiation from Fukushima, it's just too far away"

          So there's a BIG RED FLAG!!!!!


          There is NOTHING natural about radiation from Fukushima!!!!!


          Too crazy to believe…

          Perhaps Buzby has had a little too much of his own product.

          There's NOTHING natural about what's coming from Fukushima period!!!!

          And although the current airborne readings are relatively low, the water borne releases are through the roof!!!!

          And when these things were on fire in the open air the US was just like the house next door being too far away…

          Oh yea and none of that has anything to do with anything natural….

          Double speak quadruple X 100000000000000000 WoWsers!

          Done with Buzby's research, he had some good points early on in the disaster but now has gone the way of a rabid jackal…

          Great Catch Farthe!!!!!

          • unincredulous unincredulous

            He did say that, didn't he? He stopped halfway through the word, "natural" so he may have misspoken. But it does seem very odd for that word to be included in referring to Fukushima radiation.

            Maybe that comes from years of brainwashing that we all have been subjected to. Most of the airborne "natural background radiation" is not natural at all. It's bomb and nuclear mad scientist stuff.

            I forget where I read it, if it was a comment by someone here a long time ago that said that measurable background radiation in Texas was ZERO years ago

            • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

              Busby knows the importance of the difference..
              He didn't correct himself either.

            • Well in my mind the correct thing to say is UNNATURAL radiation sources from fukushima traveled rough shod around the globe as airborne particles that will rain down as fallout for the next decade…

              Now that the super hot fires are out or below ground the particles will travel more slowly in the ocean until they encompass the whole of the pacific and then eventually (some) will travel all the worlds oceans forever…


              Seems to simple to be complicated, But I don't have a public relations degree or any time to waste on quack science so I have something to babble about for a two minuet spot on TV or youtube…

              All else is a waste of time and brain cells…

              I'll have a beer or two if I want to waste brain cells on something…

              Amazing he (Buzby) said that and that fact goes a along way to confirm the rumors that these people are not speaking the truth for whatever reason.

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              when people like Busby and Gundersen measure for radioisotopes from japan they are looking for isotope ratios. This distinguishes, say, any cesium left over from bomb tests or other sources from fukushima. It is often incorrectly said that that residual fallout is part of the background. But one can see why people say this…its there, along with natural background.

              Im not defending anybody, but taking a few words from Busby out of the context of his entire message is just like a witch hunt.

              THe best evidence that we have which disproves the nuclear industry, and shows the danger of low level fallout comes from Chernobyl, and people like Bandazhevsky and Yablokov. Busby and his group follow that and he attempts to take down the ICRP dose indoctrination, which IS the legal and conceptual basis for the continuation of nuclear

    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

      Your link is about China, not Busby.

      Busby certainly warns about all the destruction of the Pacific Ocean from radiation generated by Fukushima and as well, released by TEPCO into the ocean..

      • unincredulous unincredulous

        Thirty seconds after the video started playing from where FM craftily has the video start playing, at 21:10 Busby

        I don't know how he does that, it's pretty cool

        • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

          There is nothing new about the 'disappointment' Dana has with Busby.
          Busy is a 'toned' human being ..one can tell by his diction. He is a numbers and research man.
          He wishes for research and NUMBERS.
          And he will only go so far.
          Dana will not accept the opinion of those that do not accept the destruction of Unit 4 .
          (Nor I)
          Good data.. but incomplete.

          Gundersen and Kaltofen .. all specimens found to be of natural sources.

          None ..from, even, Hanford or the remains of the 'waftings' from the accident at WIPP.
          None from Fukushima yet most modelling suggests otherwise.

          Fukushima Question for Dr. Chris Busby from Dana Durnford
          Oct 16 2016


          Busy till evening..bb

          • unincredulous unincredulous


            So true

            Where would we be without Arnie Gunderson, Chris Busby, Helen Caldicott, and a host of others (including Dana Durnford). We can't throw out all their data, and their works, for their failings.

            We can't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

            We all suffer if we do that. Dana can hate me for it if he wants to.

            I hate it when someone, whether it be George W. Bush or Dana Durnford, says "You are with us or you are with the terrorists" It makes my skin crawl.

            I decide what I accept and what I reject. I am the decider.

            And I do reject that Fukushima is too far to cause great harm to the USA, and I do reject that the hot particles with their long half life could have been here in 2011, and be non-existant now. I'm not that flexible. Either Arnie Gunderson was lying then, or he is lying now.

            Or maybe he is self delusional and took up the happy song

            • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

              "Where would we be without Arnie Gunderson, Chris Busby, Helen Caldicott, and a host of others (including Dana Durnford). We can't throw out all their data, and their works, for their failings."

              Personally, I think I can, it just depends on their intentions.

          • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

            I'm sorry, but I don't by that graph shit whatever it is that Busby tries to promote where more radiation is somehow better than very low doses of radiation. I don't even give a shit about what sort of radiation it is, you're not gonna tell me more strontium-90 is better than less strontium-90, I'm not buying that.

            He better get on revising that, imo he's selling crap. a perfectly linear radiation/cancer incidence ratio is more conservative than what he is trying to promote.

            • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

              And I know EXACTLY what he based that flawed graph on, how it is smoothed and normalized with a downward bias as to appear "mathy" and that he doesn't mention other factors, either.

            • More is less??? More poison is better than less?

              Yea OK by that line of supposed reasoning more carbon monoxide will help you resist carbon monoxide?

              Wow close the garage door, fire up the car and see how that works for ya (just kidding)…

              This guy's lost it, I always said "if he's not being quoted out of context" but after watching and hearing him say natural background and Fukushima in the same paragraph on video…

              …I can surmise insanity and disinformation without reading or watching another thing by him.

              Unbelievable!!!!! And totally FALSE!!!!!

            • unincredulous unincredulous

              I haven't even looked at the graph, but I think that article is probably talking about how higher dose radiation kills cells, while lower doses allow the cell to live, and try to repair itself, and bystander effect may mutate nearby cells. Of course he is talking about non-lethal doses and maybe not talking about internal contamination radiation. Just external radiation.

              Of course big ass doses that give you a burn throughout your body causing you to disintegrate into a black cloud of "natural background radiation" are not recommended

              • unincredulous unincredulous

                Captain Kirk detects an increase in natural background radiation


                • The fact is on any cancer scale or prediction model you have to take into account information not gathered or documented…

                  A person in great physical shape can take allot more damage and still be able to repair it without disease…

                  So even though a person may ingest these particles at low levels and technically get cancer (100% sure in all people that ingest these particles to some degree) they may never show symptoms or become ill and their bodies immune system simply eliminates and repairs the effected cells…

                  Another thing that must be considered is the genetics involved…

                  Did you know that there are a number of people that are immune to cancer by genetics?

                  These folks have very short trailing strands at the end of their dna chains from birth and these are the components in how, when and if the sells reproduce and die (apoptosis)…

                  …thus the risk of a mistake causing runaway cell growth and therefore cancer is minimized…

                  Infact many are very small humans and won't ever grow to a average height or weight.

                  Yep just like malaria and sickle cell there are those that just won't develop the disease from low level exposure to common radioactive particles (man made stuff like plutonium and it's daughters not considered). A natural defense that seems to be prevalent among those of northern European and south american decent…

                  Could be the survivors of volcano eruptions of old.

                  • Did you know that there is a whole genetic class of people that will never develop AIDS even if exposed multiple time to the virus?

                    Some people of Northern European descent who's ancestors survived the black plague are immune to the aids virus…

                    So you can't sit around with a crayon drawing lines on a piece of paper and ever have a idea of who will show symptoms of cancer, even if they are living with it.

                    The only data we have is who got sick and went to the doctor for treatment.

                    Anyone that says different is either lying to you or doesn't have a clue….


            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              Busby explains the biphasic graph. More radiation can kill errant cells that otherwise end up causing cancer. He doesnt say more radiation is better.

              Heres a fundamental question, who can answer it; When the dose graph is at zero….the dose is going to zero and the effect is going to zero….how much radiation is a person exposed to at that zero point?

              a related question…if the graph still shows some cancer, and some of them do, some dont…when was that cancer rate taken? Before or after the nuclear era? Before or after the industrial revolution and its myriad of pollutants?

              A third question….does the effect vs dose include morbidity that isnt manifested as clinical disease? Indeed does it include anything other than cancers that are ASSUMED to have been caused by the dose in question?

              those three questions invalidate most of the assumptions made from those dose graphs

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              anyway, several studies exist showing less viability to life with close to zero radiation. On what basis can one deny this data?

              • earthsmith earthsmith

                1-800- Disneyland

              • Code a year or two back Conca and his student did that study at WIPP, I dug into it deeply, emailed with Conca who brought the student into the loop….

                Bottom line, he agreed the experiment was too simple, the type of bacteria too limited and most likely to be influenced by the Salt (K-40) radiation that they used, and that it needed to be repeated with a better designed chamber. Also the humidity varied like a son a gun during the test. Which for bacterial growth count sounds like a reason to just through the results out completely until a real test could be done.

                Second: Other Europe deep earth test said that bacteria under conditions of no radiation, did worse at DNA strand repair when they were put into a radiation zone. Indeed….that is not hormesis, that is simply having the repair mechanism being "exercised".

                So saying less viability to life, is not a correct statement in my opinion

                stock out

                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  stock out? Not so fast! A definition of hormesis could be that its simply having the repair mechanism "exercised". I see a different light; all conditions that deviate from the ones that constantly bathed life are a stress. We dont have to know WHY exactly, for this observation to be true.

                  there are more than two studies on this. Hundreds. Even Busby cant make it go away.

                  First, people should be aware that there is a distinction between low dose stimulation of repair and immune response….which is a stress response and is often called hormesis

                  And is distinct from process that might be inherent in biological functions. Free radical production is one example of a required process, is caused by both oxidation or ionization and has detrimental effects as well as necessary ones

                  In India, cancer is less prevalent where background radiation is higher

                  This is not the same finding as low dose studies in locations around nuclear reactors or nuke reactors, indicating there may be a difference between the different sources of radiation, no matter how close science deems them to be

                  BIER says studies substantiate the linear no threshold model. But look at Figure ES-1 near the bottom. They ASSUME, without actually testing, that excess cancer MUST be zero with zero radiation. I have never seen a test verify this

                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    the underground tests of low level radiation were not just yeast, and not just short term. This invalidates the assumption its not 'hormesis' but a mere exercising of repair, which for me is not an accurate definition/assessment in the first place.

                    the underground 'Gran Sasso National' Laboratory (LGNS) of the Italian National institute of Nuclear Physics offers the possibility to have near-zero background radiation levels. As such in this facility the cosmic ray and neutron flux are up to six orders of magnitude lower than at the surface. Yeast cells, grown for 120 generations in this low background radiation environment and subsequently exposed to different genotoxic agents, had higher frequency of recombination in the LGNS compared to a reference culture [17]. Further studies have been carried out on higher eukaryotic cell cultures (V79 Chinese hamster lung fibroblasts, TK6 lymphoblasts and A11 mouse cell line) for long exposure conditions to reach comparable number of generations as the yeast cells. In general the experiments with the different eukaryotic lines confirmed that cells cultured in reduced environmental radiation conditions were less tolerant to radiation-induced DNA damage and less efficient in scavenging reactive oxygen species


                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    why the ubiquitous background radiation may be part of biology is not fully known. That doesnt mean its not true however. If it were true, it would be a breakthrough in the anti nuclear fight.

                    one example of a hypothesis

                    The weakforce influences chemical reactions because during beta decay, spin polarized electrons produce a an abundance of left-circularly polarized gamma-rays which, if present during the synthesis of biomolecules would tend to create an enantiomeric excess of left handed molecules –

                    ALL life is made of L-amino acids (and chiral sugars in the backbone of the DNA). http://theastronomist.fieldofscience.com/2011/01/universe-and-life-is-asymmetric.html

                    only one of the 4 fundemental forces is asymmetric, that is the weak nuclear force

                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    a little studied weak photonic radiation was discovered several decades ago. Biophotons were found to transmit biological signals even through quartz barriers. This is not taught in biology class, and therefor is met with scoffing skepticism. Yet very advanced work continues on these subjects.

                    A noted French physicist, O Costa De Beauregard, suggested a mechanism for chemical transmutations, using weak force interactions and advanced waves.

                    Biological Nuclear Transmutations as a Source of Biophotons

                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    what if your largest source of internal radiation is not a mutagen? What are the implications of this? The unthinkable; SOME ionizing radiation sources are mutagenic and OTHERS are NOT, even with very similar radiation types and energies! This could throw out the industry comparison of background to fallout, which currently gives them carte blanche to poison the ocean

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      some stress may be a good thing…fly or die!

                      The exposure of plant tissues to low-dose atomic radiation was found to induce positive radiation, which was designated secondary biogenic radiation that stimulates the division of resting undamaged cells likely through the activation of functional membrane receptors. Low-dose gamma irradiation may activate ribonucleic acid (RNA) or protein synthesis during the early stages of germination after seed irradiation, which stimulates seed germination. Kovalchuk et al. (2007) reported that the auxin-responsive genes are directly or indirectly stimulated in plants exposed to acute ionizing radiation [43]. Furthermore, Fan et al. speculated that increased antioxidants in response to gamma irradiation may act as stress signals and trigger stress responses in plants [44]. In our study, we found that ROS and ABA signaling are essential for the growth stimulation induced by low-dose gamma irradiation

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      Some are which?

                      Is this in a controlled environment?
                      Were type and dose are measured?
                      Who was the test case.. Humans or plankton?

                    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

                      Typo.."were type and dose measured?"

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      we think of biochemical processes as exclusively involving the electrons..the valence electrons. But at least one process involves the nuclear spin. Its interesting to note that K-40 has a very unusual nuclear spin

                      From a biological point of view, it is important that a synthesis rate of adenosine
                      triphosphate (ATP) – a source of chemical energy within cells – depends on the nuclear spin and magnetic moment of Mg2+ in creatine kinase and ATPase. The higher the portion of the magnetic isotope 25Mg in the magnesium isotopic composition of the enzymes, the higher the ATP synthesis rate (Buchachenko et al., 2006; Buchachenko and Kouznetsov, 2008)

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      HotR, I think you are referring to this study?


                      They used e-coli as test cells. Not that even increasing the radiation 100 times (10,000% in ENEnews measures) there was no statistically significant mutation. That is not the only study on k-40. Another done with animals suggests they dont thrive without it.

                      In the above study they even cranked up the k-40 1000x. That is a lot of cranking!

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      how do you visualize ionizing radiation? A chaotic destroyer? A thin line of reactive ionizations? How WIDE is the effect from a single track, a single line of nuclear radiation?

                      Well Ionizing radiation is not chaotic. Its frequency is the signiture by which it is known. The body has some natural frequencies that are conceivably resonant…

                      3 to 4.5 THz frequencies in cell structures have been discovered

                      Electric Oscillating Structures in Living Cells fohlich, giudice, webb, THz popp, albrecht buehler, grundler and keilmann



                      The Width of effect from a decay track is very interesting. In the case of the purely electromagnetic waves…gamma, x-ray, science has decided there is no such thing as a width or dimension, only a wavelength and a probability. If you look at tracks in a cloud chamber, they seem very wide to me…hundreds or thousands of cells wide, at first glance. I wonder what in fact the width of ionization is

                      but theres more

                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      info on ionization track width in tissue. Very narrow! Half the energy of an ion track is less than 1 micron in width

                      average human cell is 25 microns in diameter


                      ion tracks in cloud chambers seem to be much larger.

                      Anyway, the biological effect can travel to distant, non-irradiated cells by the bystander effect. The question in my mind was what is the extent of possible electromagnetic induction of a track. At first glance, not large

                  • stock cant be out!?

                    Code, I think on the Europe study, you miss my point i will make more simply.

                    Let say a generation of men have no bullies or enemies, they get weaker at fighting, same for the next generation, and the 10 or 120 or what have you….sure the immune response gets weaker, the ability to recombine DNA and rid oneself of free radicals (ROS scavenging) becomes weaker.

                    I shall read the rest you posted later, probably next week, birthday coming up (not like my fake birthday last month)

                    I believe in immune response. I try to eat fast food every 2 months or so just so my body doesn't "get too comfortable", no joke,

                    I also vary my vitamin intake to keep the body "on edge" prepared for the unknowns that will come.

  • Cdog Cdog

    It was pretty obvious that most of R#3 ended up in the food chain but my own brother and he'll still take his family to Tokyo for a vacation, gorging on fish, rice, seaweed, and of course dairy for the kids. Its a crazy fucked world and 99% are either idiots or already brain damaged.

    • Bahoooooooooooooooo…

      How goes it fellow Dog… (snif snif snif)

      I too have a jet setting brother that will drag his young children all over the place.

      It's very frustrating to try to explain the danger to someone that won't even try to understand it. It's denial…

      I also have a family member that just wouldn't give up eating fish who now has high potassium levels and the doctors are baffled as to why…

      Done numerous tests and treatments over a 3 month period…

      But no one has performed any Cesium tests with the blood work as of yet…

      …and the're baffled as to the cause even though Cesium is a potassium analog and will be seen as potassium in blood work with out a specific set of tests.

      Crazy insane blindness denial knows no bounds.

      • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

        Hey, I've had arrhythmia for probably decades, reckon it's cesium? (I mean, I'm nowhere near fukushima)? I'm thinking it's mostly something else, considering.

        Not trying to downplay the effects of cesium, just saying, other factors also.

        • Well you are in the southern hemisphere correct? S. Africa?

          How much sun do you get a day…

          Vitamin D is closely linked to this problem and regardless of what you've read, A supplement won't do the job correctly…

          Sub crews have had these problems from the start of nuclear subs that don't surface for a whole tour sometimes. They go to great lengths to simulate sunlight, day and night and so on…

          Try to get some direct sun on your face every day…

          The ONLY way for you to produce Vitamin D naturally.

          …if only for a few minuets, Every day.


          • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

            I relatively often go pass out on the grass at like mid-day, sometimes for like a few hours. Yeah I know a bit about magnesium and calcium, also boron, much of it to counter the fluoride crap. Probably still not outside enough, but yeah.

            • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

              Unfortunately, I have to say, the heart issues don't seem to be getting better, and it's not the drinking. I know it's not, I know what it is, even if people try to deny it.

              I'm not too bothered by the arrythmia, sometimes it's really harsh, but it doesn't hurt. It's just fucking weird. What hurts is the actual heart issues.

              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                more magnesium often helps arrythmia

              • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                FM, You might have sleep apnea. I used to have to check to see if my wife was alive at night and she has a heart condition, likes to drink and has a high blood pressure condition. The heart would flutter with no beat and after a few attacks she was seen by the heart doctor whom was checking her heart. The fluttering was getting worse and often that attacks were in the AM after waking up.

                I informed the heart doctor of the sleep problem and advised the doctor that my wife should be placed on a monitoring device to check for sleep apnea. The doctors eyes became wide open as she glanced over at me..how would this moron know this?

                Sure enough this moron was correct in the diagnosis and when the body was coming out of the sleep apnea attack the heart would kick start and in that kick start it would strain the heart muscles and then enter the fluttering cycle.

                There has not been another attack since she strapped on that machine.

                I saved her life! 🙂

                Use that one all the time now, but she is still very much in charge. Chuckles

                • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                  Just F.Y.I.

                  Any attack at/during the night of the "heart start jolt" that occurs in order to keep you alive.. strains those same heart muscles.

                  Sometimes and often the heart beats will smooth out somewhat depending on the time of that jolt in the sleep phase and a person may feel tired and or exhausted after that sleep.

                  That person may go to work and enter what they think is just another normal day only to find out that an attack will happen again later in the day while they are working etc.

                  The heart muscles are already strained and it will not take much under a high pressure job o created tension to kick the heartbeats into a flutter again, thus attacks can happen anytime during the day too.

                  Certain medications help.

                • Damn right obe!!!!

                  That's how you get er dun!!!!

                  Simple process of elimination!!!!!

                  A smart guy is he says I 🙂

                  • And if you look at your body as a machine (your robot here on earth) you can actually see the backfires that cause these problems…

                    It it the carburetor (food and air)?

                    Is it stress (a car wreck for your radiator)?

                    Is it a electrical issue (nutritional problem)?

                    Is it genetic (a factory defect)?

                    Check em off one at a time till you (the car) runs good…

                    …and then don't hesitate (bad gas or timing) to share them online…

                    ..may be something good on the internet if we make sure the info is solid.

                    A simple recipe to saneness and a good disease free life…

                    just don't be eatin seaweed or crazy supplements…

                    Eat real pure food and drink real pure liquids if ya wanna be happy and healthy…

                    …clear your brain and make it healthy, where the mind goes, the buttox follows.

                    All else is background, natural or not.

              • I could tell ya all kinds of stuff but it's like looking for a needle in a stack of needles (forget the haystack)….

                …and ya know what they say (whoever the hell they are):

                “Para todo mal, mezcal, y para todo bien, tambien.”


                Mezcal when ya feel good, Mezcal when ya feel bad…

  • razzz razzz

    'Nuclear Regulatory Commission restarts Yucca Mountain licensing process'

    "The nation's top nuclear energy regulator voted on Tuesday to proceed with the information-gathering stage of approving a license for the contentious nuclear waste storage site at Yucca Mountain in Nevada…"

  • razzz razzz

    'Tom Lehrer: We Will All Go Together When We Go'

    This song, try and guess what he is singing about…

    'Tom Lehrer: I Got It From Agnes'

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

    Dr. Mercola: Radiation from Fukushima
    September 04, 2012

    “…Although this report was released in 2010, scientists are just now going to review it to help assess the true effects of Fukushima.13 There is also a phenomenon known as the ‘bystander effect,’ which multiplies the dose and harm from radiation exposures. According to Dr. Mae-Wan Ho, cells that have not been exposed to radiation can be harmed by nearby cells that have. Writing for ISIS, Dr. Ho explains:14
    "’…low dose radiation is all the more dangerous because it does not kill the targeted cell, but allows its influence to spread widely to adjacent cells, thus multiplying the radiation effect (about 100 fold) …a wide range of bystander effects in cells not directly exposed to ionizing radiation have been found, which are the same as or similar to those in the cells that were exposed, including cell death and chromosomal instability.’…."

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Anti- Gunderson Anti- Busby Anti- Caldicott

    I don't want to join Rod Adams. Please, don't make me.


  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Gundersen, 2014 "The sample that we got came from the Goya in Japan. It’s 460 kilometers from the accident site. That’s about 300 miles away. The hot particle was 10 microns across. That means it is 10 one-millionth of a meter across; obviously, something you’re only going to see with a powerful microscope. The particle was actually in the size range of dusts that can be inhaled and then retained in the lungs. And this is important because if you’re a health physicist and you’re calculating the dose that you would get from this particle, you’d have to consider that this particle might actually be trapped and result in a lifetime exposure. Thing of asbestos workers who inhaled an asbestos particle and when they eventually died, from whatever reason, that asbestos particle is still in their lungs. Well, this kind of hot particle would probably do something very, very similar. The particle that we examined was a mixture of fission products from a nuclear reactor and nuclear fuels. We looked at materials like Telurium, Radium 226. We saw Cesium 134 and 137, Cobalt 60 and a whole zoo of isotopes that probably you’ll never hear about on CNN but you’d have to be a physicist to understand. Let’s put it this way. Eighty percent by weight of this particle was made up of pure reactor core materials. So that tells me that something that came directly from the accident, directly from the core, could escape containment and travel a very, very significant distance. So it’s a long distance…

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    …So it’s a long distance to travel, and what happens is the particle is so very small that it will essentially travel with whatever gas it’s entrained in. The winds will blow it long distances."


    • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

      WHAT if…

      Plutonium itself can be suspended in air, from a paper I linked earlier, but imagine if the plutonium binds to something more complex, effectively reducing the mass ratio and increasing the suspension or lift potential, making it easier to travel in the atmosphere.

      Many toxic PAHs were found to come from "very far away" in a recent article PNNL, surprisingly vague information about the toxicity. It did say something from "across the pacific" (paraphrasing), though.

      Very speculative, but if you consider their associations…"Proudly operated by Batelle…"

      I think I mentioned it in OT, will see if I can find the link again.

      • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

        Not just plutonium either, of course.

      • unincredulous unincredulous

        I will look at that later. Bedtime. eyes dry, seem to have a problem with both sides of face. lip sagging, have to pull it up to chew a burger. Switched to soup. I probably should see a doc, but they will probably want to MRI me or something and I read that makes you twenty percent dumber. I can't afford that 20mv. No way. Besides, I stay up all night reading about how nuke is killing me, now I'm too tired to go to the doctor and I have to go to work tonight so I can afford straws to suck my food. Makes me wonder how much radiation have I got. Dumb as a rock, man.

        that sounds interesting what you linked. Too deep for me now, maybe later too

  • laconic93 laconic93

    Chris Busby at 2:36 stating what the average monkey would know by watching the explosions with there own eyes. The spent fuel pools that were sitting on top of the reactors all got blown to kingdom come too.

  • Sol Man

    In the hews this am., that colo rectal cancer was rising in younger people. I'll bet it is rising overall.


    Who is reporting on the rad dust on the crops, in the water?

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    My hearth is heavy on this anniversary of the plutonium bombing of Nagasaki.

    "At 11:01, a last-minute break in the clouds over Nagasaki allowed Bockscar's bombardier, Captain Kermit Beahan, to visually sight the target as ordered. The Fat Man weapon, containing a core of about 6.4 kg (14 lb) of plutonium, was dropped over the city's industrial valley at 32.77372°N 129.86325°E. It exploded 47 seconds later at 1,650 ± 33 ft (503 ± 10 m), above a tennis court[206] halfway between the Mitsubishi Steel and Arms Works in the south and the Nagasaki Arsenal in the north. This was nearly 3 km (1.9 mi) northwest of the planned hypocenter; the blast was confined to the Urakami Valley and a major portion of the city was protected by the intervening hills.[207] The resulting explosion had a blast yield equivalent to 21 ± 2 kt (87.9 ± 8.4 TJ).[135] The explosion generated temperatures inside the fireball estimated at 3,900 °C (7,050 °F)[when?] and winds that were estimated at over 1,000 km/h (620 mph).[where?][208][209]"

    Let all citizens of Earth dedicate ourselves to the task of making sure that the Nagasaki Bomb remains the last atomic bombing on this planet.

  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    Fat Man Nagasaki Bomb

    "The result was the fission of about 1 kilogram (2.2 lb) of the 6.19 kilograms (13.6 lb) of plutonium in the pit, i.e. of about 16% of the fissile material present. 1 gram (0.035 oz) of matter in the bomb is converted into the active energy of heat and radiation, releasing the energy equivalent to the detonation of 21 kilotons of TNT or 88 terajoules.[37]"



  • Busby talking natural radiation issue:

    So he said "natural" and half caught himself. He meant "in the environment".

    Think about it, it wouldn't make any sense to talk about Fukushima increasing the radiation levels 5 times, and call it "natural" as in naturally occurring radioactive materials NORM.

    Hawaii "background" 1 year after Fuku with Inspector Alert was usually 25.

    Mainland, central US usually pegging around 30 to 35 NOW.

    But indeed if you get some hot particles in your lungs, colon, liver, there can be hell to pay.

    If someone said a 20% increase in Environmental radiation in USA after Fukushima, I would find that in the range of straight face test.

  • I think this is big, found it yesterday.

    stock here — The Nukists did not understand a very important property of "the most dangerous element on earth" that they were "playing with". That element being Plutonium in PuO2 form.

    Research released in Sept 2011 (6 months after Fukushima) showed a decrease in the temperature difference between melting and boiling (gas) point. Prior to Fukushima, they thought they had a "comfort zone" of 350F, but after Fukushima their tests showed the comfort zone was a lot less comfortably at just 56F.

    So Plutonium can rapidly flash from a solid to a gas!

  • AirSepTech AirSepTech

    The fastest/easiest way to make nuclear power 'history' is simple.
    Remove the investment/profit motive.

    Every thing else just puts the 'common man' in the 'deer in headlights' mode, pissed off, confused, denial, ignore. A waste of time

    Good interview starts @ 28:00, lots of Fuku talk.


  • FaunaLord Farthington MacMananus

    Good luck, even if she says she's right, she doesn't know the meaning. Cheers.

    Don't try to trick me again, that's all I wanted to say.

  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Calculated time for radioactive particles to cross the Pacific

    "Calculated time for radioactive particles to cross the Pacific from the power plants in Japan to big West Coast cities if the particles take a direct path and move at a speed of 20 mph:
    Cities Est. Distance (miles) Est. Time to Cross Pacific (days)
    Anchorage 3,457 7
    Honolulu 3,847 8
    Seattle 4,792 10
    Los Angeles 5,477 11 "

  • razzz razzz

    CodeShutdown: Noticed my .pdf reader numbers even blank pages so when I state a page number it does not always correlate to actual pages numbers in the documents.

    Here's that blurb about a pressure drop on document page 17.

    'Facts, Lessons Learned and Nuclear Power Policy of Japan After the Accident – Izumo Jan 24, 2012'

    "-hydrogen explosion at unit1, unit3 and uni4 (PCV pressure
    decreased at the same time of unit4 explosion)"

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