“Radionuclides from Fukushima due to hit West Coast any day now” — Senior Scientist: “Really bizarre” U.S. gov’t not testing for it — Concerned officials contacting him about threat

Published: November 24th, 2013 at 10:19 pm ET
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Cape Cod Times, Nov. 24, 2013:

Model shows estimated location of plume in 2014 (click image for more info)

With the first plume of water carrying radionuclides from Fukushima due to hit the U.S. West Coast any day now, [Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution Senior Scientist Ken] Buesseler’s latest project is to convince the federal government to monitor radiation levels in the sea water. [...] He predicts the radiation will be so diluted after the long journey across the Pacific that it will pose no threat [...] But he knows that’s not enough to reassure the public. [...] he knows people are concerned [...] he fields regular phone calls from surfers and salmon fishermen as well as congressmen. [...]

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[Buesseler] spent this past week in Washington, D.C., meeting with representatives of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission and the Department of Energy, asking them to come up with some sort of plan to keep tabs on levels of radionuclides [...] Buesseler also talked with U.S. Sen. Edward Markey, D-Mass., [...] Markey said in an email that an increased federal role is not likely considering the budgetary brakes being applied by the Republicans in Congress. “The sequester is a double-punch, cutting funding for the agencies charged with promoting scientific discovery and protecting our natural resources,” he said.

Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution Senior Scientist Ken Buesseler: We’ve known that for two and half years. Every day they are making contaminated water [...] I’m a little disappointed in Japan. What (the denial has) done is made the public extremely mistrustful. [...]  We don’t have a U.S. agency responsible for radiation in the ocean [...] It’s really bizarre. [...] Given what’s happened at Fukushima [...] Wouldn’t you want to have some measurement?

More from Buesseler: Graphic: 900-mile-long "front" of most contaminated water from Fukushima Daiichi moving across Pacific toward U.S., Canada (VIDEO)

Published: November 24th, 2013 at 10:19 pm ET
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  • MichaelV MichaelV

    Tepco Complains About Media Coverage of Fukushima Operations
    http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/?p=11825

    Take a look at the size of the transfer cask and the rig needed to move one assembly to the CSFP…

    …ALL THIS TO BOIL H²O…!

    ..and they call themselves engineers.

    Engineering the extinction of life on the only planet we know with certainty that it exists.

    So this is what the MIC and the JFK assassins had in mind..? Endless war and premature death for the masses.

    That's how I see it going down.


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  • After his dilution bs, which he PROVED was bs by the publication of his last rad chart, he say's "We don’t have a U.S. agency responsible for radiation in the ocean It’s really bizarre. Given what’s happened at Fukushima. Wouldn’t you want to have some measurement?"

    Lol @ Ken Buessler, can't decide what side of the fence he belongs on.


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  • moonshellblue moonshellblue

    Ken Busseler wants to do the work and tell the public everything is fine, levels are too low to harm humans as he has done with his last round of tests. The sequester is really messing things up like NASA, etc. we do need government agencies to monitor a plethora of events currently affecting the well being of our planet. I don't know what happened to the GOP if it was something in the Tea party not that the Demos are well intentioned but at least some of them seem to have common sense. What a mess.


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    • Socrates

      NASA get it's budget a year ahead of time.


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    • HoTaters

      Why are you mentioning the Tea Party in connection with this?

      As anne said on another thread, it's all about "divide and conquer." People would be better off if they quit thinking about the right-left political paradigm in the U.S. Just my two cents' worth.


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      • HoTaters

        IMO neither of the two major parties in the U.S. has any sense. And the Tea Party (at its inception) was not a creature of the GOP, but literally a new, third party. That is, until it was co-opted by the GOP.


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        • We Not They Finally

          Well, since it took the GOP all of about two minutes to "co-opt" it, it's sort of a moot point. Corruption is the real enemy. But everything about the legal and political system by now supports that corruption. We do need a third party, one that values humane public service, not just the greedy-grab. But it's become unclear by now that we have any effective party we can trust at all. Sad state of affairs.


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        • The Tea Party was never a political party. It was always a Republican scam. People wanted a revolution. They got Republicans. It was at attempt to capture the revolutionary fervor of the people and direct it into the existing system. If the Tea Party was actually a political party then it would have run candidates in OPPOSITION to the Republicans and Democrats. Can you name one such candidate?


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          • The Tea Party came out of Dick Armey and his FreedomWorks organization. It was funded by very wealthy Republicans.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement

            "The Tea Party movement is NOT ( my emphasis) a national political party; polls show that most Tea Partiers consider themselves to be Republicans[52][53] and the movement's supporters have tended to endorse Republican candidates.[54] Commentators, including Gallup editor-in-chief Frank Newport, have suggested that the movement is not a new political group but simply a re-branding of traditional Republican candidates and policies."


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  • dosdos dosdos

    It costs money to test for radiation. House Republicans won't pay for it. Senate Democrats don't want to be embarrassed. White House wants more nukes. It's not going to happen.


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    • We Not They Finally

      It's not "the White House" anymore. It's a puppet show. But when even the lives of the whole citizenry are at risk and STILL no response, it's pretty revolting on the part of everyone.


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    • unincredulous unincredulous

      Nuclear shieldists are protecting us all to death. Not from death. That is not their concern. Hell, in the sixties schoolchildren had fallout drills. The siren would go off and everyone would get under their desks. I guess the end result of that would have been more efficient spacing of the flying children's body parts. That was no use at all really, except to declare that the government orders you to do their bidding. Now that there are real radiation threats, the government is quiet as a mouse. Only the squeeks of rusty machinery remain.


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  • Socrates

    If most people knew what we know, there would be economic and political chaos.


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    • MichaelV MichaelV

      @Socrates
      It's going to come out all of a sudden.

      Now's the time to store food/water/medical supplies.


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    • Wyakin Wyakin

      S-Yes, you are correct, chaos is a possibility. Frankly, most people may never know what we know. Those engaging in discussion here on ENE are the fortunate, enlightened ones.

      Try to explain this atomic, corporate, and government sponsored mess to many in the populace who have no knowledge of science, have not practiced critical thinking, and are unaware of the political and global economic framework within which we all live.

      Its been 70 years since man made fission became vogue, driven by educated power hungry and greedy sociopaths. To stop its proliferation and undo what has been done will not be easy and will require substantive multi-generational effort.

      I hope I do not come off as skeptical above. On the contrary, I sincerely believe we need to do what we can now, both to spread awareness and to be actively engaged to obtain tangible results.
      And I am hopeful.

      Peace.


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      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        If we start having humans dropping dead in public from radiation contamination by the millions.. this won't be a generational battle…heads are going to roll. :(

        That is the ugly side of the truth in such dire matters. Who knows maybe they already know what still comith this way and therefor all the urgent preparations we see going on everywhere.. :(


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        • We Not They Finally

          Yes AND/BUT, that's a demonic aspect of all this. That with radiation, most people don't just drop dead in the public square. They get scary individual diagnoses in their doctors' offices, feel isolated, get misdirected, and lives fall apart. A weakened populace being LESS able to fight.

          Then come the diversions…


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          • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

            .. :) Its worked beautifully for many years…


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          • Yes. You are correct. But many people won't even get a correct diagnosis. They will be mis-directed from the beginning and the doctor won't even mention radiation as a factor in their illness. Afterall, how can he PROVE it was the radiation and not one of 10,000 toxic chemicals in our environment which caused the illness? He can't.

            So ignorance and obfuscation are viable options for doctors and politicians and much safer than taking on the pro-nuclear crowd.

            I remember back in the 1980's when we were working to end the nuclear arms race with the Soviet Union that a lot of people believed that if there was a nuclear war they would be instantly dead. But that's not true. You could be in downtown Manhattan when it was bombed at street level and survive it … if you were in an underground parking garage five floors down. Of course, you would emerge into a living hell, but you would be alive.

            This is a similar situation. You can survive a lot of radioactivity in the environment, but you may be disabled in a number of ways. You may be foggy-headed and unable to think clearly. You may have heart palpitations. You may get cancer ( but live with it ) or you may have hypothyroidism and have to take a thyroid hormone for the rest of your life.

            We need to break this habit of thinking which tells people there is nothing to worry about because if anything happens they will be instantly dead. It isn't true. It's about the QUALITY of your life…


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      • unincredulous unincredulous

        I have given people information about this website, and the situation in Japan. I have told them it is a reasonable precaution to store several months of water and food. I hear responses that vary from don't have time to worry about nuclear (mumbles,) ridicule, blatant confessions of evading reality, insanity on my part.

        But the government thinks that if they give any warning it will cause panic. Well, it might cause a little. Some people react differently to certain situations. Some will not react, and some will over react. The government should be educating people what the right response should be. And I do not mean in an educational institution. I am talking about television. Mandatory public announcements. Wishes of shareholders in nuclear plants be damned.


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        • digitalaardvarks

          what is an overreaction to news of an ele? yes, you are taking a risk by telling people. they can get very angry–at you.


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        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          They have gotten away with all of this rampant pollution and disregard for life for at least a 100 years based on invisible, odorless, tasteless and everywhere you follow this stuff (radiation contamination) you will find pain and suffering and disease. Even when used in any medical treatments/applications secondary cancers will happen/are very likely. :(

          The entire world has been duped.. and they are still getting away with it! :(


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          • You know, I have this daydream quite often that I'm observing a future where my great-grandchildren are going to a doctor, and it's a little like the Sick Bay on the Starship Enterprise. Hand-held scanner to accurately diagnose the issue, a simple air-shot or few minutes in a full-over contraption, problem solved. A future in which late-20th and early-21st century medicine is seen by all as even more barbaric than leeches and maggots and bloodletting…

            It'll come, just maybe not that soon because there's too much money to be made on legal (and often forced) torture.


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          • unincredulous unincredulous

            The government responded to 91101 by creating the department of homeland security – or was it the other way around? Anywaay, I wish they would create a new government branch- The Department of Trust. Charged with government integrity and protection of whistleblowers and armed to the teeth. The government turned a war on terror internally and are targeting the public of the US. So let their gaze turn even more inwardly.


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    • RememberThis RememberThis

      So be it.

      Then again folks might spend a small fortune….prepping!

      That would stimulate the ol' economy


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  • charlie3

    Socrates wrote:
    ((If most people knew what we know, there would be economic and political chaos.))
    And social chaos too, like during the Fall of Berlin.


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  • vital1 vital1

    "We’ve known that for two and half years. Every day they are making contaminated water [...] I’m a little disappointed in Japan."

    Playing down the seriousness of the situation is making it worse. In my opinion a person in his position and knowledge should be yelling from the rooftops, to do something about it, and quickly.

    What would it take to disappoint this man!

    ————————————————

    We have to collectively do more than just comment in these forums.

    The more people we educate the sooner change will happen.

    Get the message out there on how serious the Fukushima nuclear disaster is
    quickly, and efficiently. You don’t need to explain anything just distribute the lifesaver.pdf or create your own, hand it out, mailbox it, Facebook it, Twitter it, or email it. Think outside the box, put it on public notice boards, hand it out to people, or put it into letter boxes when you go for a walk.

    http://technologypals.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/lifesaver.pdf


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  • wetpwcas1 wetpwcas1

    CB, right on! Corporate slaves we have become. They may hide the truth about how Radiation from Fukushima & our own nuke plants & waste sites have & will kill millions a year for only so long & that is their intentions it seems. You know government puts up a sign for what ever pleases them, we shall do the same, FUKUSHIMA IS HERE ia start in your front yard, businesses, light poles untill people ask what does that mean! Cancer centers would have a fit if a huge poster was across the street from them!


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  • Shaker1

    Buesseler's been changing his tone somewhat lately, if my memory's correct. It started a while ago, and he has the problem of his discipline (He'll hear the pounding hooves, see the dust rise in the air, but until he sticks his head out of the hole and sees that it's actually a herd from which he can't escape being crushed in the frezy, it's just a subject of discussion.) and the demands of his personal life. We need to forgive and support the fact that he's asking why there isn't more action from the dupes and conspirators so far away. Maybe as well as screaming from the rooftops and in every public place we might think of writing Ken a letter letting him know that he will be supported if he sins against the establishment before their sin fully manifests. What has one got to lose with the letter, while there may be much more to gain? Seems this is the time to come together, don't you think? I'll write him one…


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  • razzz razzz

    Kenny is going to get his nuts hurt sitting on the fence like that. He stated the Pacific would dilute fallout to less than harmful levels. NOAA would be the one to monitor ocean waters except they are to busy playing he global warming game. Notice how the Democrats make a political football game out of fallout. Kenny teed it up.

    Busby recently stated that the time to panic had passed for the West Coast and any remaining fallout from Daiichi was less than background levels, it is Japan that needs to be concerned with localized fallout.


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    • Kassandra

      Someone has hold Busby to tone it down

      Compare his 2011 comments with more recent ones.

      Anyone still have the link to the video of him measuring fallout levels in a Tokyo apartment?

      That video is of a less restrained Busby


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    • We Not They Finally

      razzz, for Busby, that's very surprising. I hope he was not physically threatened. Really. He does not usually talk this way. He knows what's going on and has been outspoken big-time for a very long time.


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      • razzz razzz

        In a recent interview linked to here on Enenews, he responded to a question about how much radioactivity continues to effect the US and his answer was not much anymore. He also referenced a university study (Berkley?) on newborns on the West Coast suffering maladies (spiking) during the early 3/11 fallout releases.

        The damage is done and we are seeing the results now. The Pacific Ocean plume of radioactivity from Daiichi seems to be a worry only because the plume is continuously fed from the site and hasn't abated. If it was a one time release over the period of say, weeks or a month maybe there would not be such a concern over its size but so far it is never ending with no fix in sight for at least a couple years more. And that is iffy.


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  • Crash2Parties Crash2Parties

    "U.S. gov’t not testing for it "

    And yet, somehow, we are aware of every radionuclide emitting in North Korea or Iran, *and* continue monitoring worldwide just in case some "rogue nation" detonates a test bomb?

    Something tells me the monitoring net hasn't gone dark for everyone, just us little people…


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  • KDM KDM

    Don't have the funds? What about protecting the people that pay your salary, the tax payers? Complete horse shit, politician answer there folks. Why not just cut all the national security funding if their not interested in protecting the citizens? Sorry for the rant.


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  • We Not They Finally

    Buesseler cannot POSSIBLY think that this is no threat due to "dilution." He's just a dishonest piece of ____.


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    • jump-ball jump-ball

      Years ago I became able to see where a declarer was 'damning someone with faint praise', and soon thereafter began to perceive the corollary, which I term 'preserving someone , or a condition, with faint criticism'. Both ploys are ubiquitous, and need not consume one's otherwise better spent time, or be allowed to divert one's focus and drive in pursuing the true problem.


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  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Great green globs of greasy, grimy gopher guts,
    Mutilated monkey meat.
    Dirty little birdie feet.
    Great green globs of greasy, grimy gopher guts,
    And me without my spoon.

    Great green globs of radi-ated starfish guts,
    Mutilated tuna fish
    Dirty little birdie feet
    Great green globs of radi-ated starfish guts
    And me without my plume.

    No worries be happy


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  • ejordan ejordan

    We've organized a global protest against Fukushima (and nuclear power in general) on NOV 29/30, 2013 all over the world.

    Its called the Post Ignorance Project: Yellow and Black Friday. November 29/30.

    Website: http://www.thepostignoranceproject.com
    Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/postignorance

    Join us.


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  • paschn

    Hmm, really? folks are concerned? About what, who wins the super bowl? To worry about a thing a society has to be aware of a thing.


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    • unincredulous unincredulous

      Exactly. All the people watching pro football would change their minds about the game if the end result was the same as it is for nuclear domination of the power grid. I just hope they can keep watching and cheering the games, when nuclear wins the game. (and we all lose) No one really cheers the witty tactics of a suicide, even if … Well, take that back before I write it. Amazing Evil Knievel got quite the fan club. I wonder how his act would fare if a crash meant the whole audience dies. That is what nuclear does.


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  • Grampybone Grampybone

    "he predicts the radiation will be so diluted after the long journey across the Pacific that it will pose no threat " This statement is entirely incorrect. Radioactive isotopes at a quantum level do not dilute. They can "teleport" from object space cubed to a photon object space x distance away regardless of half life. Quantum dilution is not physically possibly, and especially not possible in seawater. These isotopes spend a lifetime under physical containment. Now they are free to burn a path across the pacific ocean. An underwater fire of planetary consequence.


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  • "Buesseler’s latest project is to convince the federal government to monitor radiation levels in the sea water. [...] He predicts the radiation will be so diluted after the long journey across the Pacific that it will pose no threat" Why is he not trying to convince gov to test fish for radiation? I believe he mentioned bio accumulation before. I think that is the real danger is eating radiated fish.

    How can a smart scientist sound so stupid? Triple melt down dont know where the coriums are bleeding radiation into the ocean all the while spending more on hosting the olympics then cleaning up the mess and trying to start up more reactors also in earthquake tsunami prone areas and lies of cold shutdown and more lies and Ken baby says "I’m a little disappointed in Japan."
    So am I,Ken. So am I.


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    • If the government weren't so busy not funding scientific efforts, Buesseler's department at Woods Hole would no doubt score a nice, hefty grant through NOAA to do the monitoring of what he says is an insignificant and entirely non-dangerous influx of too-diluted-to-count radioactive contamination from Fukushima. People dependent on the concerns of the public to boost government funding of 'studies' on whatever it is they're so concerned about tend to encourage that government funding and direct it towards where it will do them (personally and professionally) the most good.

      But given Buesseler's disqualifying preconceived notions, I'd rather such funding go to university researchers less biased at the outset. Science is not just a method of proving what you think you already know. Ken should know that better than most people.


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      • hbjon hbjon

        America was founded on the principles that an unbiased Government is to appoint unbiased committees to solve our collective problems. A better computation on the optimum solution and effective course of action can be implemented where we have an unbiased group of deep-thinkers.

        Any word yet on the size of the China Syndrome? My guess is that it grew in size as it descended through the earth until stability was reached.

        Since the technology to retrieve the corium has not been invented yet, they might as well figure out a way to produce electricity from the flux of pollution emanating from the wreckage using the photoelectric effect.


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  • ftlt

    This is the toxic stream that won't go away… YIKES!!!!

    I have a friend who bought his dream place on the coast.. He refused to believe FUFU was really that bad – and he's a scientist… Another who just bought another commercial fishing boat with his life savings…

    That the West Coast could be lost has to be a wake up call..

    Hope, those who claim that dilution will mitigate it are right..

    Why do I doubt that???


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  • Socrates

    I see surfers every day in the water and people going to suchi bars.

    People eat beef despite mad cow. People tolerate smog and GMO.

    The effects are not immediate. The disease comes later.

    Seek foods high in glutathione.


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  • fukushima, its for the children. those of us 50 ish or over will die off from gmo, aluminum poisoning, flouride and the fascist police state while the kids have all that and fuku too.


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    • unincredulous unincredulous

      Ahh, to be young again! Someday, kids will be out radionuclide-boarding…


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      • skizexq skizexq

        the whole coverup is getting dire, so I must listen to some humor in an Alice Cooper song from a few decades ago, back when things weren't so freaky-deaky.

        lyrics from the end of 'Nuclear Infected'

        I want to live on Three Mile Island
        Where things are clean and neat
        'Cause we don't have no health freaks
        Clutterin' up our streets
        I'm nuclear infected, I need something to eat
        A China Syndrome Salad with plutonium and cheese.

        When I'm happy I glow yellow
        When I'm sad I glow blue
        And I glow red hot when I'm in bed with you


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  • unincredulous unincredulous

    It may be the right time to short surf board stocks.


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  • MizK MizK

    "…The sequester is a double-punch, cutting funding for the agencies charged with promoting scientific discovery and protecting our natural resources,” he said…"

    This is NOT a 'resource preservation' issue!! This is life and death, moreso death. National Emergency, hell WORLD emergency.

    They should all face charges, congress.


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  • earthdweller

    I'm sure they're testing, they just won't tell anyone ….. yet.


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  • hogy

    "Markey said in an email that an increased federal role is not likely considering the budgetary brakes being applied by the Republicans in Congress. “The sequester is a double-punch, cutting funding for the agencies charged with promoting scientific discovery and protecting our natural resources,” he said."

    If this is true and not a cover-up excuse, then let scientists with access to labs do testing on their own. Scientists at UCLA, UCB (with the Lawrence Livermore Lab there) and at Cal Tech could certainly organise this and DO the necessary ocean water testing. If they just sit around whining that governmental money and assistance prevents them, then they are complicit in whatever happens after the plume hits the west coast.
    Scientist:s DIY !!!


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