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Would that have been enough to have felt it at said reactors in a state of “cold shutdown”? Hate to see them mysteriously have issues again after a quake :\
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hehehe…. & first, happy new year everyone
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Report from Outnow just now:
“I’m starting to see some cardiac conduction node problems in California residents. I’m wondering if cesium may be to blame. If we can measure the Sulphur-35 at Scripps Pier in La Jolla, and could taste a metallic taste in our mouths during Late March and through April, and knowing that the body uptakes radioactive cesium and strontium, we must have heavy-metal toxicology AND radiation poisoning on a low level. I’ve seen peole’s immunity go down suddenly, too. All anectdotal observations, except the Sulphur-35 readings and cesium readings.
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It’s in the food and water, and it’s not just California anymore. Yablokov and Nesternko said that, based on Chernobyl, everybody that comes into contact with radiation gets immune system damage. Literally everyone in the US is developing or will develop autoimmune disorders at some level.
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Profits for Big-Pharma and the “sick-care” complex – “green shoots” ! – boost GDP ! – the more disabled and unable to work the fewer “actively looking for work” so the unemployment stats look better too ! Transnational vaccine-makers on a roll ! Pretty talking-heads tout-up the Dow !
You know it. They blow it. The smoke is so thick they can’t see themselves in the mirror anymore. Or maybe they don’t want to.
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the crux of the matter…rad bio-accumulation and what to do. For those interested in natural remedy information rad rad remedy links etc found here
http://realitycheck.no-ip.info/forum/index.php/board,24.0.html
and here,with invaluable firsthand protocol knowledge etc
http://enenews.com/forum-best-practices-combating-effects-radiation
and here
http://enenews.com/forum-effects-of-low-level-radiation
Practical tips for emergency preparedness
http://oahutrading.blogspot.com/p/japan-nuclear-information.html
Blessings to all and happy new year!
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The metallic taste is probably from Plutonium.
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The irresistable power
of planet and sea -
no coast is immune
and no NPP.
Nuke complexes glower
and threaten all life
when they should cower
before tectonic strife.
With one quake
they can crumble
and to their grave tumble,
with one wave can be crushed -
mad dreams humbled and hushed,
but for innocents weeping
in the wake of the sweeping
away profit and power
so dear to the mighty,
while those without voices
lose life, hope and family.
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To partially quote the great Dylan Thomas. “Good seals, last wave by crying, their playful activities would have danced on a GREEN bay. Grave seals who see with blinding sight, rage against the dying of the light. Sick, cancerouse seals at the end of day, know dark is right. Wild seals that live in the pristine waters of Alaska do not go gentle into that good night.”
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We briefly discussed the earthquake topic on the discussion thread this (early) morning. LetThemEatYellowCake was worried that this might just have been a foreshock, and indeed, it’s become VERY quiet again very shortly after the quake.
@Whoopie, you remember we discussed the “EQ around year’s end”forecast of the Japanese seismologist two days ago? Weird.
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OH yeah BB!! I spaced on that! Geezuscrist…wow!
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Isn’t it odd that..the seismologists “in the know”…fail to warn the people?
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I TRUST NO ONE ANYWHERE ANYMORE!!!!
EXCEPT YOU GUYS. Shit…
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@Heart – well, he made his thoughts public! I think most experts agree that the big Tokai quake is overdue in that region, so the public is aware…
After the remark LetThemEatYellowCake made this morning (today’s EQ might just being a foreshock), I looked for a timelapse video that was also posted on ENE some time ago.
You can see a swarm of earthquakes including a M 7 one on March 9, two days before 3/11.
For me, this is extremely scary. But we’ll never know until it happens! Have a look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsQwWc4YoLQ&feature=related
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Forecasting earthquakes in Japan
Sep26-03, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by Ivan Seeking
“The chance of coincidental success appears to be about 1:600 in this case.
“Based on what?
“Predicting earthquakes in Japan is like predicting snow in Utah or fog in England: not very difficult if you don’t have to be too specific about it.
“From the first article:
“The earthquake research establishment has largely ignored the warning.
“Forecasting quakes is generally considered to be impossible with current technology, and Kushida’s method of using anomalies in the VHF range of radio waves to predict the timing and intensity of tremors has not gained many believers in the scientific community.”
http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=6134
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EQ 8.3 HOKKAIDO, JAPAN REGION
Sep27-03, 08:29 PM
http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=6134
“Magnitude 8.3 HOKKAIDO, JAPAN REGION
2003 September 25 19:50:06 UTC
Preliminary Earthquake Report
U.S. Geological Survey, National Earthquake Information Center
World Data Center for Seismology, Denver
“Magnitude 8.3
Date-Time Thursday, September 25, 2003 at 19:50:06 (UTC) – Coordinated Universal Time
Friday, September 26, 2003 at 04:50:06 AM local time at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones
Location 41.83N 143.83E
Depth 33.0 kilometers
Region HOKKAIDO, JAPAN REGION
Reference 135 km (85 miles) SSW of Kushiro, Hokkaido, Japan
245 km (150 miles) NE of Hachinohe, Honshu, Japan
245 km (155 miles) SSE of Asahikawa, Hokkaido, Japan
770 km (480 miles) NNE of TOKYO, Japan
“Location Quality Error estimate: horizontal +/- 5.7 km; depth fixed by location program
“Location Quality
Parameters Nst=199, Nph=199, Dmin=575.6 km, Rmss=0.84 sec, Erho=5.7 km, Erzz=0 km, Gp=34.2 degrees
Source USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
Remarks At least 400 people injured, extensive damage, landslides and power outages occurred and many roads damaged in southeastern Hokkaido. A tsunami generated with an estimated wave height of 1.0 meter along the southeastern coast of Hokkaido. Felt strongly in much of Hokkaido. Also felt in northern and much of central Honshu as far south as Tokyo. Recorded (6L JMA) in southern Hokkaido; (5U JMA) in parts of eastern Hokkaido; (5L JMA) in central Hokkaido; (4JMA) in parts of Hokkaido and northern Honshu; (3 JMA) in southern Iwate, Akita, Miyagi, Yamagata and northern Fukushima; (2 JMA) in southern Fukushima, northern Niigata, eastern Tochigi, Ibaraki, Saitama, Tokyo, Chiba, Kanagawa, eastern Shizuoka and eastern Yamanashi; (1 JMA) in eastern Gumma and parts of Nagano Prefectures. Also recorded (1 JMA) on Miyake-jima and Hachijo-jima.
http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=6134
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[cont.]
“Tectonic Summary
“The preliminary location and focal-mechanism of this earthquake imply that it occurred as the result of thrust-faulting on the plate interface between the overriding North American plate (which extends into the northeast corner of the Eurasian landmass) and the subducting Pacific plate. The Pacific plate is moving west-northwest at a rate of about 8.2 cm per year relative to the North American plate. In addition to experiencing great thrust earthquakes that originate on the interface between the plates, eastern Hokkaido experiences great earthquakes that originate from the interior of subducted Pacific plate. The earthquakes of March 4, 1952, and May 16, 1968 (cited below) were interface-thrust earthquakes, whereas the earthquake of January 15, 1993 (cited below) occurred within the interior of the subducted Pacific plate. The recent earthquake appears to have involved rupture of the same section of the plate interface that ruptured in 1952.
“Magnitude 8 and greater earthquakes are capable of devastating large areas. The shallow September 25 Hokkaido earthquake occurred about 60 km offshore. If the earthquake had occurred directly beneath a populated region, damage would have been more severe.
“Previous Deadly Earthquakes in this Region
Date UTC Magnitude Fatalities Damage
1952 March 4 8.6 31 31 killed, 72 injured; 713 houses destroyed, 5,980 damaged. 28 killed and warehouses destroyed at Kushiro. 3 killed and 309 houses destroyed at Kiratapu. 1,000 houses destroyed or damaged at Shiranuka and 400 schools collapsed at Sapporo. 10-foot tsunami.
1968 May 16 7.9 48 Damage estimate at 25 million USD.
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“1993 January 15 7.6 2 614 injured and substantial damage (VI JMA) at Kushiro, Hokkaido and Hachinohe, Honshu. Felt (V JMA) at Hiroo, Nemuro, Obihiro, Otaru and Urakawa; (IV JMA) at Hakodate and Tomakomai; (III JMA) at Sapporo, Hokkaido. Felt (IV JMA) at Aomori and Morioka; (III JMA) at Akita, Fukushima, Sendai, Tokyo and Yokohama, Honshu. Also felt (VII) on Shikotan and (VI) at Kurilsk, Kuril Islands. Landslides and subsidence occurred in the epicentral area.
“The last great earthquake (magnitude 8 or greater) in the world was a magnitude 8.4 that occurred on June 23, 2001, near the coast of Peru. This earthquake killed at least 75, including 26 killed by the associated tsunami. “
http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/neic_zdap.html
From:
http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=6134
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For every ten 4.0 quakes, there is one 5.0 quake. For every ten 5.0 quakes, there is one 6.0 quake.. and so on.
The REALLY big ones are rarer than the smaller ones. But, the more smaller quakes there are, the better a chance that a big one will happen.
Usually the big ones happen with lots of time and space in between them… But how do we really know that another REALLY big one is not getting ready to trigger in the next day or so…
We know so little about the world we live in. What we know about it is like an ant feeling the toenail of an elephant and trying to describe the whole animal from that, and building nuclear plants right there, just as the elephant is getting ready to take the next step.
Are we ready for the next Carrington Event? I doubt it.. It could happen tommorrow, and create a life extinction event as all nuclear power plants melt through and explode.
Without nuclear power plants, we may live through it. With nuclear power plants, we most certainly WILL NOT live through it..
The Carrington Event is coming… Just like the elephant taking a step.
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Thanks for picking up on the Carrington theme, it is a huge thing, we are living on borrowed time….even if the nuke get goned.
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Earthquake 1 Jan 14:27 JST
Magnitude 6.8
Date-Time
• Sunday, January 01, 2012 at 05:27:54 UTC
• Sunday, January 01, 2012 at 02:27:54 PM at epicenter
Location 31.416°N, 138.155°E
Depth348.5 km (216.6 miles) RegionIZU ISLANDS, JAPAN REGION
Distances
495 km (307 miles) SSW of TOKYO, Japan
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/usc0007fbh.php
This earthquake is 446 mi (718.1 km) SSW from Fukushima Daiichi (#1) Nuclear Power Plant
http://www.movable-type.co.uk/scripts/latlong.html
Fukushima #1 37.422972N 141.032917E
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ANOTHER EQ? FUKUSHIMA
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No, it’s the same this thread is about.
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Oops. posted that as another. Oh well.
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Fukushima didn’t have an earthquake. The earthquake 6.8 [USGS] or 7.1 was 446 miles south of Fukushima. This was in the original posting [the distance south of Tokyo], but too many people on this just read the headlines and they don’t look in the article itself.
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TYPO: on this blog. Also, one poster just reports calamity all the time without documentation or reports it as having a signiicance when it is miles away. I have long suspected this blogger as working for Tavistock. Domesday at all costs, true or not. The facts are murderous enough without exaggerating or manufacturing them.
The concept of Domesday is necessary to get people to accept a dictatorship around the world. I.e., it is an ideological precursor for the NWO.
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TYPO: significance. It is upsetting to me because I don’t want to be ruled by Satan worshipers which is what the NWO elitists are.
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Hi anne, btw, you can see the tremble of the quake on the tepcocam at 1:30 in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSZskAFKXAw&list=UUDu1KkkwuzybKx6MXQgGHuw&index=10&feature=plcp
The Japanese Meteorological Agency’s map shows clearly that measuring devices in Fukushima responded. Have a look:
http://www.jma.go.jp/en/quake/20120101143459391-011428.html
*peace
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Thanks, I was just watching at 14:27. It’s at 14:30 or 14:31.
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Still maybe right Whoopie Real-time eq monitoring here
http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?lang
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According to USGS there is just the one earthquake:
MAP 5.0 2012/01/01 12:27:56 -43.472 172.952 13.8 SOUTH ISLAND OF NEW ZEALAND MAP 6.8 2012/01/01 05:27:55 31.416 138.155 348.5 IZU ISLANDS, JAPAN REGION
MAP 5.1 2012/01/01 04:56:42 -58.310 -149.172 10.0 PACIFIC-ANTARCTIC RIDGE
MAP 5.2 2012/01/01 00:50:09 -11.404 166.208 77.6 SANTA CRUZ ISLANDS
MAP 5.1 2012/01/01 00:30:06 11.959 143.631 18.1 SOUTH OF THE MARIANA ISLANDS
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_big.php
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This source just reports every report. It doesn’t try to distinguish if the reports are duplicates or not.
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The JMA lists two quakes: at 14:34 and 14:37 local time. Theymight have them classified later as 1 quake for the media, who knows. Not important.
14:34: http://www.jma.go.jp/en/quake/20120101143459391-011428.html
14:37 (more activity in the north):
http://www.jma.go.jp/en/quake/20120101143715391-011428.html
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If you click on both of these reports you see that the time 14:28 JST is the same and the epicenter is the same 446 miles south of Fukushima. The quake just hit the reporting centers at different times. This happens quite often.
http://www.jma.go.jp/en/quake/quake_local_index.html
14:28 JST 01 Jan 2012 31.4N 138.6E 370 km 7.0 Torishima Kinkai
http://www.jma.go.jp/en/quake/20120101143715391-011428.html
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sorry if caused any panic. ty for duplicate report heads up and the links i took to rc rad monitoring
http://realitycheck.no-ip.info/forum/index.php/topic,67.0.html
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arthquake at 14:28 JST
16:36 JST 01 Jan 201216:32 JST 01 Jan 2012Chiba-ken Toho-okiM3.8 2
14:53 JST 01 Jan 201214:49 JST 01 Jan 2012Chiba-ken NambuM3.6 1
14:37 JST 01 Jan 201214:28 JST 01 Jan 2012Torishima KinkaiM7.0 4
14:34 JST 01 Jan 201214:28 JST 01 Jan 2012Torishima KinkaiM7.0 4
10:49 JST 01 Jan 201210:45 JST 01 Jan 2012Tochigi-ken HokubuM2.1 1
10:30 JST 01 Jan 201210:26 JST 01 Jan 2012Chiba-ken Toho-okiM3.1 1
http://www.jma.go.jp/en/quake/quake_local_index.html
14:28 JST 01 Jan 2012 31.4N 138.6E 370 km 7.0 Torishima Kinkai
http://www.jma.go.jp/en/quake/20120101143715391-011428.html
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I have put out on my web site on 30th December 2011 my forecast and the occurrence today and my observations.
See http://predictingquakes.blogspot.com
This 7.0 MM(emsc),6.8 MM(usgs) Izu Islnd quake is a deep focus quake. WE may be in for another major/great quake following this, probably in the Japan area but it may well be in the Sumatra Andaman Bay area.
I made prediction based on the cyclone data and hotspots.
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Hi Ramaswami, if you make another forecast like that, would you be so kind and post it here BEFORE it happens?
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It was predicted a few weeks ago on this website. I can’t find it at the moment. We for sure are going to have more earthquakes around Japan. It is impossible to predict the day and/or hour. Also, the area of prediction is for hundreds of miles.
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Ah, I missed that then. Thanks anne!
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See under here
12:40 PM EDT on December 9th, 2011 | 31 comments
Gundersen: Biggest fear remains very precarious Spent Fuel Pool No. 4 collapsing in quake (VIDEO)
at enenews.com/page 15.
But you can please be forewarned at the site I have indicated above for the big one to come. The things are so intercennected, its difficult to go beyond that. But lets try!
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Thank you Ramaswami,
interesting stuff you’re doing there. Please keep usupdated!
*namaste
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@BreadandButter: I agree it should also be put up on a unique site like enenews. Thanks B and B, I shall promptly put up my latest on enenews as I had been doing. The webcam info you gave is a sign of things to come. Unit 4 sfp is leaking thereafter. It is a worsening situation. Why are the leaders unable to stop this from exploding into a concatenation of nuclear events the world over. They must be sensible enough(for themselves) to shut them all.
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Cyclone data to predict earthquakes?
Really?
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@ tomb 1 Yes.I have posted my comments on this at several sites and you may please see my work at the link I have given in the URL mentioned above. If you have further questions I will be pleased to share/discuss. GDACS also knows about this. Hurricanes point towards the hotspots created by dams!
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So far some strong parallels have been drawn between increased solar activity, geomagnetic storms, and higher magnitude earthquakes.
Predict when the sun will create geomagnetic storms affecting EARTH, and you will at least know that earthquakes of higher magnitudes will MOST LIKELY happen SOMEWHERE on the planet.
Much more information from: http://solarimg.org/
and: http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/
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What worries me just as much is this (sorry, repost):
Jap. Reactor monitoring system fails nationwide for 24 hours – cause unknown
“The Japanese government’s nationwide nuclear reactor monitoring system failed to provide data for at least 24 hours before being restored on Saturday afternoon.
The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency says that on early Friday afternoon a rapid reaction point near Shika nuclear power plant in Ishikawa Prefecture reported that all data from the Emergency Response and Support System was not showing up on its screens.
The system monitors pressure, temperature, and other real-time conditions of reactors at nuclear power plants across the country, as well as radiation dosage in surrounding areas. The system also predicts future conditions of reactors based on such data.
The information can be accessed from terminals at the agency and rapid reaction points around the country.
The agency says its investigation discovered that a facility of the state-affiliated operator of the system was not transmitting any data for unknown reasons.
But the system recovered without any grave result at around 2:30 PM on Saturday. The agency says it is looking into the cause of the problem and how long the system was out of operation.
The agency says it regrets that important data became temporarily inaccessible. It also apologizes for a delay in the announcement.
Sunday, January 01, 2012 00:28 +0900 (JST)
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/20111231_16.html
NO RAD MONITORING DATA FOR “AT LEAST 24 HOURS”???
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Comment posted BB
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/01/japan-earthquake-magnitude_n_1178289.html
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Cool Whoopie – you continue in 2012 just like you ended 2011! Lots of (green) ENERGY!
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WE GOT TO WAKE THE SHEEPLE UP! TY FOR THAT ALERT.
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If this RENSE exclusive: http://www.rense.com/general94/secbb.htm
is true, the Japanese may have shut it down to isolate and kill the STUXNET.
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Not looking forward to the next shallow EQ.
To think, 9 lbs of Plutonium can kill off everyone on earth:
What Is PLUTOnium?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzTBXZ8wmKQ&feature=related
And, how much has been released already?
I fear there was more than 9 lbs of it @ Fukey, along with all the other isotopes, and elements.
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The “hot particle” theory in which a particle of plutonium dust radiates a localized spot of lung tissue has been tested and found false—such particles are more mobile than originally thought and toxicity is not measurably increased due to particulate form.[91]
However, when inhaled, plutonium can pass into the bloodstream. Once in the bloodstream, plutonium moves throughout the body and into the bones, liver, or other body organs. Plutonium that reaches body organs generally stays in the body for decades and continues to expose the surrounding tissue to radiation and thus may cause cancer.[95]
A commonly cited quote by Ralph Nader, states that a pound of plutonium dust spread into the atmosphere would be enough to kill 8 billion people. However, the math shows that one pound of plutonium could kill no more than 2 million people by inhalation. This makes the toxicity of plutonium roughly equivalent with that of nerve gas.[96]
Several populations of people who have been exposed to plutonium dust (e.g. people living down-wind of Nevada test sites, Hiroshima survivors, nuclear facility workers, and “terminally ill” patients injected with Pu in 1945–46 to study Pu metabolism) have been carefully followed and analyzed. These studies generally do not show especially high plutonium toxicity or plutonium-induced cancer results.[91] “There were about 25 workers from Los Alamos National Laboratory who inhaled a considerable amount of plutonium dust during the 1940′s; according to the hot-particle theory, each of them has a 99.5% chance of being dead from lung cancer by now, but there has not been a single lung cancer among them.”[96][97]
Plutonium has a metallic taste.[98
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moonshellblue, link to this plutonium info please
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What about the Carrington Effect, when all electric lines overload, transformers blow up, all circuit boards fry and all nuclear power plants are left without power for days or months..
Watch as they all melt down and explode… Then tell me how ‘safe’ plutonium is, along with all of the other hundreds of radioactive isotopes coming out of these reactors worldwide..
Get ready, it is coming… Mother Nature does this every once in awhile. We have not seen or experienced this yet, since the invention of electricity.. But we will… we will.
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Summary of 144 Beagle dog study inhaling plutonium dust particles.
Out of the 144 dogs;
93 developed bone tumors and died
46 developed lung tumors and died
2 developed liver tumors and died
The rest developed radiation pneumonia and died.
Total deaths; 144
It took a few years, but plutonium dust killed them ALL. Correct me if I am wrong…
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=biological%20effects%20of%20inhaled%20238PuO2%20over%20the%20life%20spans%20of%20144%20beagle%20dogs.
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[Rough Transcript of Video By Dr. Caldicott]
The problem with plutonium studies is that they did not seem to focus on ANY children. According to Dr Caldicott, children are 20 TIMES more sensitive to radiation than adults. This makes all of the studies on adults worthless, because none of the adult studies can be applied to children or babies, much less a fetus.
According to Dr. Caldicott, in a normal fetus a tiny particle of plutonium can lodge in the brain while it is developing. In a fetus, plutonium can and WILL destroy the genetic material that will develop into the right brain for example.
Plutonium is extremely teratogenasis, meaning it has severe and negative effects on eggs, sperm and developing fetuses.
For this reason, pro nuclear industry supporters will NEVER show studies about how plutonium affects a human fetus, babies or children, because it would be too bad for their public relations campaign.
According to Dr Caldicott MD, plutonium has an affinity for the testicles in men, and lodges next to the sperm production area of the male reproductive system, destroying or damaging the genetic structure of the sperm, which then produces defective human babies. Plutonium is mutagenetic.
She reports it can take up to twenty generations for recessive genetic tendencies to express themselves, so damage done by plutonium on the genetic structure in humans today, can show up twenty generations in the future.
The half life of plutonium is 24,000 years, (meaning it will last over 240,000 years before it turns into something else).
Plutonium acts like iron, is stored in the liver, and goes to bone marrow. Plutonium causes bone cancer, leukemia and crosses the plancenta barrier.
Bottom line; plutonium is a REALLY dangerous radioactive isotope.
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New York Times : US Govt Concedes Plutonium Workers Suffered Illness, Death
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C05E2DE1E3CF93AA15752C0A9669C8B63&pagewanted=all
U.S. ACKNOWLEDGES RADIATION KILLED WEAPONS WORKERS
By MATTHEW L. WALD Published: January 29, 2000
If plutonium is so safe, why is even the US government now saying that plutonium has and is killing nuclear industry workers?
Further, I would like to know who is funding these plutonium studies listed, and where the researchers worked, before, during and after the studies were completed? I believe the answer will tell us much about the results..
Even the sugar industry sponsored ‘scientific’ studies showing that sugar was good for health, and the more of it you eat, the better it is for you. Voila…
The tobacco companies also got in front of Congress and spouted off one after another; swearing in front of God and on the Holy Bible that tobacco DID NOT CAUSE CANCER.
Right.. then the lawyers went after them, and proved that smoking and cancer were linked, and using tobacco DID cause cancer. Those tobacco company executives had to eat or smoke their words.
I predict the same thing will have to happen with the nuclear industry. The walls of denial, faux studies, and claims of safety will have to be destroyed with lawyers and groups of citizens doing class action lawsuits against companies involved in this…
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I’m not too reassured by that comparison, AGR. The tobacco and sugar industries took their lumps (sorry) but seem to be still around, if not thriving. I would prefer an extinction event for the nuke industry.
Seriously… they may be able to shrug off the current crisis after all. They hold many of the levers of power – much more than the tobacco or sugar industries, I fear.
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@ Greenroad:
Karen Silkwood,Karen Silkwood. Again all over. Now Erin Brockovich has taken over the job.
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http://www.nextearthquake.com/earthquake_predictions_japan_region.htm
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Thanks Anne for this site!
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Hokkaido University Experts Say 9.0 Quake — Highly Probable With Translation of Text
October 30th, 2011
“…If you follow the same course as before the earthquake of March 11, if this still is estimated that the M9 class earthquake occurs again. Would be considered near the epicenter off the coast of southern Japan Trench off the southern part of Miyagi Prefecture, Ibaraki Prefecture. If it is a normal fault focal mechanisms is also considered a potential giant tsunami tsunami amplitude of fluctuations is greater vertical ocean crust.Generation time is probably spent in January from December 2012, just from the expected weakening of the seismic echo is probably difficult to pinpoint. Natural phenomena that trigger the occurrence of foreshocks and earthquake is also important to monitor the storm and tidal observations, such as words.Do not continue to go missing observations of VHF echoes the future earthquake, we will be updating as often as possible.”
http://www.simplyinfo.org/?p=3803
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The Nuclear Industry is in complete denial of the TRUTH that Nature can destroy any land based nuclear reactor, any place anytime 24/7/365!
Nature does not OBEY design guidelines or NRC rulings; that is why all land based reactors are a RISK of becoming yet another Trillion Dollar Eco-Disaster or worse!
They can quote all the studies and data they want but the TRUTH remains; each is a Trillion Dollar Eco-Disaster waiting to happen…
America and most other Countries cannot afford to pay for a Trillion Dollar Eco-Disaster!
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Nature WILL get rid of all nuclear power plants someday… all at one time.
We can either do it voluntarily NOW while it is still easy, or it will be done by force, and with a life extinction event, with the Carrington Effect. Mother Nature is like a woman scorned when people do not work in harmony with her. When a woman is scorned, even Hell hath no fury like that.
Nuclear industry and regulators, you have been warned.
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2008/06may_carringtonflare/
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TEPCO and the Nuclear Mafia
http://is.gd/b8kXDL
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“TEPCO’s involvement with anti-social forces and their inability to filter them out of the work-place is a national security issue. It is one reason that increasingly in the Diet we are talking de facto nationalization of the company. Nuclear energy shouldn’t be in the hands of the yakuza. They’re gamblers and an intelligent person doesn’t want them to have atomic dice to play with.”
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HOW can the Japanese GOVERNMENT allow their yakuza access to nuclear materials when the World threatens other ROGUE groups that seek nuclear materials!
Who is keeping tract of every GRAM of nuclear materials in Japan, how much is being stolen and or sold to other groups or Countries?
This is a VERY IMPORTANT issue that has not been addressed in MSM:
Where has ALL THE HIGHLY RADIOACTIVE MATERIALS GONE?
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ty CaptD. additionally
http://enenews.com/report-mafia-ties-behind-lawmakers-reason-nationalize-tepco-3-fukushima-50-local-bosses-soldiers
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Reactor #4 is now LEAKING water folks!! Possibly BIG trouble:
http://fukushima-diary.com/2012/01/emergency-mail-from-tepco-to-mass-media-about-reactor-4/
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Could have been leaking before, but EQ gives excuse to admit it.
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Get it straight. The memo says nothing about the reactor leaking. The memo is about the spent fuel pool leaking. BIG difference. ( and MUCH more dangerous, IMHO)
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OK, I’ll admit it – right here right now.
I was pretty wrong about not worrying about #4 and another earthquake right now.
Wow, what could go worse in this fiasco?
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Hi James, there’s just too much to worry about at the same time!
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So many reactors
So little time
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Words of wisdom, lokay
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Breaking!
Is this in the propaganda news yet?
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Oh, and Happy New to you all again!
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Hold on,
Looks like last years video?
Is this BS or not?
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Dang, here is the first conflict we found.
“There were no immediate reports of damage or injury and no tsunami warning was issued.”
http://www.sananews.net/english/2012/01/7-0-magnitude-earthquake-hits-japan-no-danger-of-tsunami/
It is way to early for April fools jokes.
If this is indeed a BS story, then why?
If it is not, why the cover up?
Party like it is 1984 in a whacky gone Popsicle-crazy world.
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There has been alot of small activity..in the last few days….kinda of quiet at the moment..
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Ftenki.jp%2Fearthquake%2F
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