Published: September 13th, 2012 at 11:19 am ET
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Interview with Karl Denninger
Warren Pollock
Sept 12, 2012
Transcript Excerpt at ~4:30 in
Karl Denninger, Market Ticker: … the uranium based system, which, by the way, Jazcko managed to essentially completely torpedo.
I don’t know if you’re aware of this, within 5 years there will be no nuclear power in the United States unless something is done with this administration.
Because what Jazcko did by illegally shutting down Yucca, which by the way was a violation of federal law the way he went about it, through that process he put a hard stop on nuclear power in the United States…
[Inaudible, Repeats Comment] This will result in the denial of license renewals when those fuel pools fill up, because you can’t store the material. There’s nowhere for old material to go and therefore you can’t put any new material in…
Published: September 13th, 2012 at 11:19 am ET
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this guy should just spend his time in a sweat lodge with Glen Beck …
You can and should remove older material (after 5 years) from the pools into dry casks … at all operating plants …
In five years there will be no nokes because people are tired of the nuclear hoax …
Nuclear power plants are not good "jobs-per-capital-invested" deals
Nor were they ever, given the actual, scientifically valid, risk/reward ratio … it's a hoax, now extortion!!!
Nor were they ever 'safe' … even though the NRC won't let anyone talk about safety!!! Now there's democracy for ya' …
Nor are they cheap, clean, low carbon or necessary!!! And that's the TRUTH … plain and simple …
Nor are they even 'new' … they are OLD!!!
it should be called "Olde-clear" power … time to DIE!!!
Pro-nuclearcrats are paid shills, mind-altered cult collaborators, or sociopthaths who want to poison the planet …
This guy definitely belongs in a sweat lodge with Glen Beck and Dick Cheney!!!!
peace …
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darn those dry casks can be expensive
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I appreciate your posts and perspectives.
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The YMman3 Landscape File incorporates geologic map and cross-section data for part of the Yucca Mountain area in Nevada, USA.
http://www.microimages.com/products/YMman3.jpg
http://www.microimages.com/products/YMman3.htm
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Geology of the Yucca Mountain site area, southwestern Nevada
http://memoirs.gsapubs.org/content/199/53.abstract
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Employees in Yucca Mountain e-mail scandal will not testify
“Three scientists involved with e-mails about falsifying documents on Nevada's Yucca Mountain nuclear waste dump will not be made available to testify before a congressional panel, the Interior Department said Friday.
“The department's U.S. Geological Survey also released a letter from the panel that reveals the scientists' names for the first time, the Associated Press reported. …”
http://www.govexec.com/management/2005/04/employees-in-yucca-mountain-e-mail-scandal-will-not-testify/18962/
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What's Wrong with Yucca Mountain?
Joseph R. Smyth, Professor of Geology, University of Colorado, Boulder, CO 80309 USA
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What's Wrong with Yucca Mountain?
ruby.colorado.edu/~smyth/Radwaste/Whatswrong.pdf
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Sep 11, 2001 – What's Wrong with Yucca Mountain? Joseph R. Smyth, Professor of Geology, University of Colorado, Boulder, CO 80309 USA.
https://www.google.com/search?q=what+wrong+with+yucca+mountain&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
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Nuclear Age Peace Foundation's Top Ten Reasons to Oppose the DoE's Yucca Mountain Plan
“Nuclear energy has always been promoted to the public in fraudulent ways. At the outset, it was claimed that it would be “too cheap to meter,” a claim that was far from true even without taking into account large government subsidies provided to the nuclear industry. Later, and still today, nuclear energy is promoted as being “clean, safe and environmentally friendly.” This claim should have been definitively laid to rest with the 1986 Chernobyl nuclear power plant accident.
“Now the proponents of nuclear energy are pushing for long-term storage of highly radioactive nuclear wastes at Yucca Mountain, Nevada. The $7 billion that the Department of Energy (DoE) has spent on researching the suitability of Yucca Mountain, Nevada as a radioactive waste storage site has only served to prove that the volatile Yucca Mountain itself is a terrible place to dump the 77,000 tons of nuclear waste that has been building up at nuclear power plants. It is a shortsighted and dangerous scheme that would endanger tens of millions of Americans now and for generations to come. …
http://www.wagingpeace.org/articles/2002/08/23_krieger_yucca-top10.htm
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No Solutions For Nuclear Disasters Or Nuclear Waste; via A Green Road http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/04/no-solutions-for-nuclear-disasters.html
What Happens To Nuclear Waste In Your Country? via A Green Road http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/03/what-happens-to-nuclear-waste-in-your.html
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Reid Testifies About The Dangers Associated With Yucca
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbneeeNDgMQ
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Danger Signs for Yucca Mountain Nuclear Waste
“Last November in a report on the potential for radiation leaks at Yucca Mountain, the Technical Review Board told the Department of Energy that the heat from the expected 77,000 tons of decaying radioactive waste and spent fuel would accelerate corrosion of metal waste containers DoE has designed for use at the site. DoE currently stands by the design, which is supposed to contain radioactivity for 10,000 years, but has not produced data proving its effectiveness.”
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/312/761/239/
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Yucca Mountain: No Place for Nuclear Waste
“….90,000 shipments of high level waste designated for Yucca Mountain will be passing by the front yards of more than 50 million Americans along highways and train routes in 43 States. Obviously, the transport of this waste poses a huge public health risk. Even DOE studies anticipate several hundred accidents over the next thirty years, some of them severe. A single accident releasing radiation into the environment could cost tens or even hundreds of billions of dollars to clean up, and could kill and injure hundreds of people (according to Dr. Marvin Resnikoff of Radioactive Waste Management Associates, a graduate of the University of Michigan nuclear science department).
“In addition to illegal treaty violations and the possibility of a "mobile Chernobyl" while the waste is on the road, Yucca Mountain is simply not a safe repository for nuclear waste. According to the DOE study, at least one storage canister of the more than 10,000 canisters envisioned at Yucca will fail within the next thousand years. After 10,000 years, all the canisters may degrade, according to a report on the DOE proposal in The New York Times.
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[cont.]
“More than 621 earthquakes have been recorded in the area (at magnitudes of 2.5 on the Richter scale or higher) in the last twenty years alone. An earthquake at Yucca Mountain could cause groundwater to surge up into the storage area forcing dangerous amounts of plutonium into the atmosphere and contaminating the water supply. (Given this, it is not surprising that the nuclear industry has fought against any groundwater radiation standards for the facility – these standards could derail the entire project.) …”
http://www.nirs.org/radwaste/yucca/yuccaltrbycorbin102400.htm
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Answer is "no" on thorium-fueled reactors. Any reactor will blow up and spread cancers. We choose clean and safe wind and solar to create electricity. All others will be decommissioned.
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Excellent.
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Sign me up.
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To paraphrase Dan Ackroyd: "Karl, you ignorant slut!"
The gall of the man to verbally shit on the carcass of the NRC director they kicked to the curb.
Jazcko is in no way to blame for the political mess known as Yucca Mountain Karl will have to set his gunsights on much larger targets. The corruption and graft surrounding Yucca Mountain would fill my hard drive (and mine is pretty big). Reid, Obama, Chu, Bush, those guys are much more worthy of scorn for crapping away so much money at Yucca Mountain.
They need to take all of the billions supposedly collected and buy casks for as many spent fuel rods as possible.
Oh… And shut those monsters down.. Everywhere. They are money-sucking leeches that will never stop costing society for their eternal upkeep. Let's cut our main losses now before it's too late. A Fukushima disaster in America won't go down as easily as in Japan. Melting pots boil over.
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Sp.. your comment is much more elequent than the one I was gonna leave that was something like.. poor babies, listen to them wine, didn't get their way, I can hear the stomping temper tantrum.. reminiscent of my children when they were two and three… and these are the winners that are running this lunacy.
I mean really.. yea! no new licenses because we have no where to store the dangerous toxic waste.. makes 100% Good sense.. this tech should never have moved forward on the assumption they could figure this problem out sooner.. this is also the reason they are rushing to Gen V tech, fast breeders, so they can sell it to the public as a means of dealing with the waste.. in the meantime can you say… SALT DOME????
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Sigh… these people are nuts. All of these nuke sites need to be decommissioned right now and everything needs to go into concrete. If they can figure out how to put a man into orbit they can figure out how to get nuke waste contained.
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apples and oranges. And, by the way, every time they send something into space, they slice the atmosphere, and there is no way to repair that either. And the fuel used also permanently destroys the environment. Math is a complete different discipline from medicine. And even studies in medicine need to be updated.
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Anne, you wouldn't believe the hot vapor trails I saw overhead yesterday. It looked like linear swiss cheese in the sky. Just incredible…never seen so many. They were all military bombers and jets. I think Libya touched a big nerve in Washington yesterday.
My condolences to the friends and family of Chris Stevens. He didn't deserve such a fate. The attackers killed someone who was no threat to their interests. A black day for America in north Africa.
Madness in Libya…
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wOW, and he is a Republican.. Thank you sir!
Utah Senate leader rages at lax nuke waste oversight…
..He pointed to auditors’ findings that the state didn’t find out that highly contaminated waste — including class C waste banned by state law — had come to the EnergySolutions disposal site in Tooele County until the company notified regulators. He also criticized the agency for allowing 23 canisters of the too-hazardous waste to remain buried in Utah’s west desert and for assessing fines too small to be a deterrent to offenders.
"You’ve got some big problems," Waddoups angrily told DEQ Director Amanda Smith and Division of Radiation Control Director Rusty Lundberg, who appeared before the Legislative Audit Subcommittee on which Waddoups serves as co-chairman.
"We thought you had a level of expertise that exceeded ours," Waddoups added. "I’m starting to wonder about that."
"…Auditors noted that 37 containers of higher hazard waste came to Utah improperly in recent years. (Class A waste remains radiologically hazardous for around 100 years, according to the NRC, while class B waste is significantly dangerous for 300 years and class C waste remains hazardous for around 500 years.) Both B and C classes of waste are banned in Utah."
"Fourteen of the containers of hotter waste were returned to their senders. Regulators, though, decided to allow 23 of those containers — 17 of them class C — to remain in place and issued fines of, in most cases, $5,000…
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You probably all know this already but it's worth repeating just in case. If a nuclear power station 'dry casks' the waste then the plant owners pay but if they wait until the plant is decommissioned then the tax payer pays. How did they get that piece of brilliant legislation through – rhetorical question – whilst the rest were arranging the deckchairs around those fuel pools. The great paradox being, that windfarms have to allow in their startup costs for the return of the land back to its previous condition, viz., budgeting for a little grass seed and some sheep fencing.
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"no nuclear power in the US in 5 years because Jazcko shut down Yucca"…sounds as if Greg likes his revenge served cold.
I never liked the guy, but that might have been a smart move.
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So all we have to do is wait five years? Hey – that's easy.
Unfortunately, ratepayers have an unlimited ability to pay higher rates and absorb more low-level radiation. I don't think either expense or safety will derail another 40 years of churnin' out the gold.
Besides, those dry casks make perfect anchors for swing sets, slides and other playground equipment. Our kids need to be more active. Bonus: Coat with phosphor – they'll be self-illuminating. Dry casks AND the children.
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and while we're being treated to the never ending deception, maybe some of you would be interested in investigating this:
Nuclear Fusion-Fission Hybrid Could Destroy Nuclear Waste And Contribute to Carbon-Free Energy Future
http://web5.cns.utexas.edu/news/2009/01/fusion-fission-hybrid/
Note the time-stamp of the above news release. Mind you, Phys.Org released this as a breaking story on this day!
Researchers awarded patent for tokamak device, would turn nuclear waste into fuel
http://phys.org/news/2012-09-awarded-patent-tokamak-device-nuclear.html
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I invented a machine that could turn spent fuel into a tiny little chocolate bar, except it burns diesel fuel and the epa won't sign off on it.
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Actually, it doesn't get rid of any radiation. It just creates even more radiation.
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The Nuclear Alchemy Gamble
An Assessment of Transmutation as a Nuclear Waste Management Strategy
Transmutation of Radioactive Wastes is “Nuclear Alchemy Gamble”
Hugely Expensive Technology Would Increase Environmental, Health, Safety And Nuclear Proliferation Risks, New Report Says
“Advanced transmutation schemes would require a complex, entirely new reactor type, called a sub-critical reactor, which would create significant new safety risks. These proposals would, in whole or in part, replace the ordinary critical reactors with a reactor that cannot sustain a chain reaction. In order to operate, such a “sub-critical” reactor requires an external source of neutrons, which would be produced by accelerated protons hitting a target of heavy metal. Work on Accelerator Transmutation of Waste (ATW) is being conducted at research facilities in several countries, including at Los Alamos. Proponents of such technologies claim it is safer than current reactors. The IEER report states that ATW systems could create new and little understood risks.
“Sub-critical systems can actually be more dangerous than conventional reactors if, as is often the case, there are more subsystems that can fail or initiate failures, and fewer backups,” noted Dr. Lawrence Lidsky, Professor of Nuclear Engineering at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) and a reviewer of the report.
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[cont.]
“Probabilistic risk analysis is a complex art, requiring a deep understanding of possible accident initiators and accident progression, and the ATW design is far too rudimentary at this time to apply this powerful tool. However, it is clear that the currently envisaged ATW systems are more complex than fission reactors, have more accident initiators, and many fewer backup safety systems.”
“The report recommends a halt to transmutation research and the use of plutonium as a nuclear reactor fuel and urges creation of a sound, scientific program of studying waste disposal alternatives."
http://ieer.org/resource/reports/nuclear-alchemy-gamble/
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But… the political reality is that nations that claim to be interested in waste transmutation are more often than not just trying to reprocess their own spent fuel into MOX.
Belgium is committed to have an industrial scale particle-accelerator driven lead-cooled reactor by 2023 (but won't). "Advanced Waste Management" really means "Magic MOX Machine". The main incentive is to sell the technology to China, who desperately wants to reprocess their used fuel to MOX.
U.S. will be bankrupt before they ever get their (AREVAs) Savannah River Magic MOX box running. True 'waste reprocessing' isn't even on their radar. Nobody on earth is close to producing one that actually works or is profitable – they're not even close.
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The political reality is that most voters in US and Canada have no idea of anything nuclear. Therefore atomic energy flies under the radar for voters. Besides scamming taxpayers I have no idea why they are building Savanah. Most US citizens dont even know they are building it!
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what is the U.S. Nuclear industry says about Fukushima?
No one died of accute symptoms? There will not be any health effects in the short term?
This is how the U.S. Nuclear industry plans to deal with the U.S. population in case of a disaster?
Then no. No more of this. The U.S. Nuclear industry is plyaing a role in the genocide that is ongoing in Japan and therefore we can't trust it all.
Sorry but its dishonesty is far too wrong and evil that we can only be safe when all the plants will be closed. And we will fight for that just as hard as the U.S. Nuclear industry is fighting to deny the danger of nuclear o the health of our children.
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It was the courts that shut down Yucca Mountain. Why does everyone keep pointing fingers at Jaczko for it? All he did was obey court orders.
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Yucca Mt. is a gamble at best.
I think this says it well.
http://www.intoon.com/toons/2002/KeefeM20020717.jpg
or this one…
Make it look like Nuclear WASTE is your 'cuddly' friend.
http://www.picassodreams.com/.a/6a00d83455ad0369e2017c31d15261970b-800wi
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"The U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission may take two years to formulate a new policy for the storage of used nuclear fuel."
After that, the nuclear doors will open again, imo, and nuclear power will still be around in 5 years, sadly.
http://www.breakbulk.com/nuclear/us-nuclear-plants-face-construction-delay-0910
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@Mack
I hope I'll be around long enough to fight it to the death.
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"Fuel pools will fill up without Yucca Mt.," “There’s nowhere for old material to go” This is an issue seldom talked about by all nuclear proponents who prefer to talk about "no green house gasses".
The cost of maintaining used atomic fuel dumps for years and decades and generations even if they shut it all down now is at the very least a cost and burden saddled on us all. One reason they don't want to shut it down because at least some money is coming in. It has the illusion of being a legitimate industry. Corporate welfare on a scale never before seen is really what atomic energy is. A sad legacy for our childrens children. God Bless.
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Put the uranium back into the holes they came from.
Ooops, that might mean Canada eh?!
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It is Long Past Time to End Something Which Should Never Have Been Allowed to Begin. Perhaps the only Safe Place to Put Nuclear Waste is Off the Planet. Let the Nuclear Power Industry Pay to Ship it to the Sun or Storage on Another Planet.
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Hi Starheart , agree , that crap has to leave , but for safety reasons i would aim at the nearest black hole , just to make sure no further blowbacks because we took safety not serious enough.
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WHOA… Crazy connection just made! I follow world-wide earthquakes daily. I have for some time been quite mystified as to why there are earthquakes in Nevada. That alone is rather unusual, but the fact that they are ALL at 0.0 kilometers in depth, means someone is blowing shit up!!! I have been following quakes for long enough to tell you that not only are quakes in Nevada abnormal, to see even ONE quake at 0.0 km depth is impossible… it's NOT A QUAKE! And I have seen many like this from Nevada. Never have I seen a 0.0 depth anywhere else in the world. What is being blown up in Nevada??? Central-north. Here's the link I follow. There happens to be one from Nevada sitting at number 2 on the list right now. You can click on the map there. There have been 2 just in the last week alone…
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/quakes_all.php
That map shows that the 'quakes' are quite far from Yucca Mountain itself. Any ideas anyone?? Something strange is happening in Nevada……
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@BeautifullyEuphoric -
Your comment made me remember something I'd read on nuclearcrimes.org's website —>
"Controversial Subcritical Nuclear Experiment Planned This Year by U.S.: This Time It is Closer to A Nuclear Test Than Ever Before"
"Scaled Subcritical Nuclear Experiment' Will Happen This Fall at Nevada (Nuclear) Test Site. The U.S. Energy Department (DOE) will conduct 'Pollux,' the code-name for a scaled experiment of a plutonium 239-FUELED nuclear warhead detonation."
"The federal calendar year for 2012 ends on October 1, 2012. A 'SCE' – also a 'SNE' – is subcritical nuclear experiment. The 'Pollux' event will be the SNE and 'Castor' will be a non-nuclear precursor test."
I don't know if it has any connection to your observation, but here's the link for more information:
http://www.nuclearcrimes.org/barolo.php
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Yeah I thought there was something recently about upcoming nuke tests they announced… I'll see if I can find it.
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I posted this above:
“More than 621 earthquakes have been recorded in the area (at magnitudes of 2.5 on the Richter scale or higher) in the last twenty years alone. An earthquake at Yucca Mountain could cause groundwater to surge up into the storage area forcing dangerous amounts of plutonium into the atmosphere and contaminating the water supply. (Given this, it is not surprising that the nuclear industry has fought against any groundwater radiation standards for the facility – these standards could derail the entire project.) …”
http://www.nirs.org/radwaste/yucca/yuccaltrbycorbin102400.htm
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Yucca Mt earthquakes
36.9414° N, 116.4546° W
http://www.movable-type.co.uk/scripts/latlong.html
The depth at this one is 5.8 miles
This earthquake is 54.38 km (33.8 miles) NW from Yucca Mt.
Magnitude
1.0
Date-Time
• Tuesday, September 11, 2012 at 23:28:41 UTC
• Tuesday, September 11, 2012 at 04:28:41 PM at epicenter
Location
37.225°N, 116.954°W
Depth
9.3 km (5.8 miles)
Region
NEVADA
Distances
• 28 km (18 miles) ESE (107°) from Tokop, NV
• 39 km (24 miles) NNW (333°) from Beatty, NV
• 40 km (25 miles) ENE (58°) from Scottys Castle, CA
• 97 km (60 miles) SSE (165°) from Tonopah, NV
• 192 km (119 miles) NW (307°) from Las Vegas, NV
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This should be labelled Yucca Mt Earthquakes
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Yucca Mt earthquakes
36.9414° N, 116.4546° W
http://www.movable-type.co.uk/scripts/latlong.html
The depth at this one is 4.7 miles
This earthquake is 27.19 km (16.9 miles) SSE from Yucca Mt.
Magnitude
1.2
Date-Time
• Monday, September 10, 2012 at 05:06:46 UTC
• Sunday, September 09, 2012 at 10:06:46 PM at epicenter
Location
36.726°N, 116.310°W
Depth
7.5 km (4.7 miles)
Region
NEVADA
Distances
• 45 km (28 miles) ESE (117°) from Beatty, NV
• 48 km (30 miles) N (11°) from Death Valley Junction, CA
• 58 km (36 miles) ENE (58°) from Furnace Creek, CA
• 63 km (39 miles) NNW (335°) from Pahrump, NV
• 114 km (71 miles) WNW (302°) from Las Vegas, NV
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This is another Yucca Mt earthquake at depth 4.7 miles
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Here is a map of the earthquakes in Nevada and California just the last seven days. Most are not at 0.0 depth. Yucca Mt. is just over the border between Nevada and California.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/
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More tests , ain't there enough in the environment to study lethality ?
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Nye County stuff
http://nyecounty.com/RID_data/rid7380_TPNs_pdf/TPN-11_7-Rev0.pdf
http://nyecounty.com/LSN/index/documents/active_plans_procedures.htm
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Thank you kalidances , i should not comment before checking it all i guess so litle time… lol
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I forgot , good catch guy's !
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There is a bird biting your nose.
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The Elite Vultures are biting everybody's nose , most people are unaware of it with blinded open eyes, allowing them to come closer trueout their lifespan (humanity) this is to remind how close they already are . Time to open up those eyes…and use them at the same time , or stay sleepy forever believing that you SEE what a international interconnected with religion and culture million dollar PR machinery is whispering in your EARS and continue/start desintegrating on a moleculair level , and all other levels of integrity.
Despite that i make a fool or worst of myself once in a while , thats what the pick is for.
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sleepy = hypnotised
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“Eighty thousand years ago a small-volume basaltic volcano, the Lathrop Wells volcano, erupted about 20 kilometers south of the Department of Energy’s proposed high-level nuclear waste repository at Yucca Mountain, Nevada. Lathrop Wells is one of a series of infrequent basaltic volcanoes that have occurred near the proposed repository site during the past 10
million years….”
https://www.google.com/search?q=Evaluating+Igneous+Activity+at+Yucca+Mountain+Technical+…+-+NRC&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collections/nuregs/staff/sr1890/
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