Pro-Nuclear Expert: Typhoon collapsing Fukushima fuel pool “a very real concern — I don’t know what it is they’re doing about that” (AUDIO)

Published: October 10th, 2013 at 8:55 am ET
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Title: Dr. Andrew Karam – Fukushima/Yucca Mountain
Source: Art Bell’s ‘Dark Matter’
Date: Oct. 9, 2013

At 49:45 in

Art Bell, host: I’m thinking of the possibility of a typhoon […] Japan gets hit by them all the time. If so, my concern would be a typhoon comes along and [the No. 4 spent fuel pool at Fukushima] collapses and then we have all this airborne radiation, or is that just a silly thing to worry about?

Andrew Karam, Ph.D., radiation safety professional: No, that’s a very real concern. I do not know what it is that they’re doing about that. But the way that something like that could happen would be if it were to collapse, lose its cooling water and before they could start to cool it again, if the temperature increased to the point where the spent fuel were to melt, you could start releasing some of the more volatile radionuclides […] That’s a plausible scenario.

Bell: I’m sorry to hear that.

Karam: I don’t know how likely it is, but it’s something that could happen.

Bell: Well, apparently the structure is not sound at all, because they keep saying they’re worried about it collapsing. And as far as typhoons are concerned, they definitely come along — so that’s fairly plausible, actually, in my opinion.

Karam: […] I could say it’s plausible, but I wouldn’t want to quote you odds.

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Published: October 10th, 2013 at 8:55 am ET
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18 comments to Pro-Nuclear Expert: Typhoon collapsing Fukushima fuel pool “a very real concern — I don’t know what it is they’re doing about that” (AUDIO)

  • or-well or-well

    Mr. oh so reasonable -
    oh so safe – unbelievable!
    Nukist anti-Life treasonable!
    In the Club of Deceivables!
    Roast him with seasonables!
    As crowds cheer at high decibels!
    No more allowing their messables!
    Make nukes unpermissable!


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  • Cisco Cisco

    It won't even take a typhoon. The terra firma under the site is nearly liquid right now. I believe a landslide is in the offing, soon to come.


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  • or-well or-well

    To hear this guy downplaying the effects of Chernobyl and supporting the WHO's bogus study is sickening.

    By that alone he convicts himself of treachery against Humanity.
    Shouldn't there be a penalty for that?

    But he fears no repercussions for his lies or support of the Nukist cult.

    He and his kind are smugly complacent in their positions, their lies, their ignorance and wilful blindness. This guy doesn't live in reality.


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    • razzz razzz

      Art handled his guiltless guest, who lives in a separate reality, as well as can be expected. I am guessing Art might have been pro-nuke out of ignorance in the past but now is anti-nuke for obvious reasons (think Daiichi).

      The guest is good at omission like when the caller wants to nuke the site (thinks radioactivity will burn up and disappear), the answer does not include all the amounts of radioactivity in the spent fuel pools (7 pools), two remaining intact reactors, air cooled storage and now holding tanks which all dwarfs the amount of fallout ever produce by all above ground nuke it testing combined if released by nuking the site.

      Sometimes I think WHO gets a bad rap because their doctors and researches all know what the data and statistics from fallout and medical complications actually are but the (parent) IAEA has final say in what is published. Even Dr. Busby has addressed the IAEA concerning WHO protocols (on Youtube) to release real numbers but is of course ignored by the IAEA decision makers.

      To the propose ice wall, until something better is suggested, it is the only hope of containing the melts and controlling the cooling water (return to a closed loop). Without it, the site is a gushing fountain of radioactivity. It is proven technology but not on such a large scale as needed. TEPCO would only be trial and error in implementing and needs to let the big boys attempt it if there is any chance of success.


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Spewing radiation like a sieve as we wait for the fuel pool to topple.

    No accident either. The plant was built this way.


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  • unincredulous unincredulous

    The professor said that the ice wall is a proven technology. He said that an earthquake would tear up a cement wall. He said you would have to dig to repair the cement, and in contrast the ice wall is self healing.

    I wonder if a previous ice wall has survived an earthquake, or is he just assuming so. I would expect the refrigeration tubing to break in an earthquake. What is the tubing made of? Is it plastic, metal, or solid diamond mined from the planet Utopia and jacketed in 500 layers of graphene chain mail?


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  • myau

    Typhoon aside, another earthquake more likely,or a little mishap once Tepco starts removing those R4 rods without international help, that's ELE folks! I do hope the majority of experts will deem removal of rods too dangerous,or impossible in case of bent rods, then as a last ditch option to a modified plan that I have commented on 10/6/13 titled "After recent lies,Japan PM admits help needed to contain Fuku diaster", so their nuclear experts should consider placing enough nuclear devises strategically deep underground around the plant more towards the back (may need help from demolition experts)where the ground is an elevated hillside, once devises are detonated, if done right, the earth crater will open up and the plant will fall backwards and at the same time enough surrounding soil would fall back on to the crater thus minimizing the ocean water influx, then they can start pouring nonstop boron,cement etc.until the crater is filled to form a hill. This way hopefully the air we breath can be saved, cannot save the ocean which is already contaminated beyond repair,so no more seafood but we will all survive. Time is running out,this job can be accomplished quickly since underground nuclear testing has its expertise for a long time. Let me repeat,this is a 'no choice" option in order to save Japan and the rest of us planet earth. Any better solution, please submit asap. Thanks.


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  • unincredulous unincredulous

    At the beginning of this Art Bell show episode, Art tells listeners about this computer virus he got, how bad it was, how mad he got, and that he would choke the life out of the person who created that virus.

    The tone of voice he used, in describing how he would murder this person, was duplicated yet barely more constrained as he listened to this professor speak about the "safety" of nuclear waste storage, among other subjects.

    Art really has a lot of patience, as he continues with such a nice tone of voice.


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  • wetpwcas1 wetpwcas1

    The 1st thing is that a PRO NUKE EXPERT says he worried about FP4 & land slides, well the so called experts said this could never happen in the 1st place, so how much of a damn expert are they? Not very good in many eyes, for those dying from radiation sickness he & the others are nothing but over paid ass wipes who are only in for the money!

    SFP4 is so bad no one knows really how bad it really is, when robots can't get close you know it's bad! No ice wall will work, the soil is like what Bayou Cone has turned into, water & a salt dome does not work & the only way I could say to save & remove the rods is you can't, period! It is what it is! Lost, so what would the worlds best do? They have not done shit & won't, that seems to be the game plan all along by the PTB! Lets kill as many as we can say the nuke pros, AG 21 as the UN would say!
    Folks, look up Kevin Blanch & Hatrick Penery on the net, or http://plumegate.worldpress.blogspot.com if you want to get a non nuke pro own work with FOIA reports from day one & all the talk from the WH to the NRC, French & other pro nukes butt wipes of death for profits!


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  • amberlight amberlight

    What the…? This sounds like a conversation about the possibility of a picnic getting ruined by an approaching rainstorm!

    "radiation safety professional?" More like "professional buttki$$er." This cretin will be one of the many pro-nuke ex-spurts who, after the collapse of Daiichi, will claim to have "warned everybody of the danger."


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  • BTW, there is another tropical disturbance that could impact Japan by the middle of next week. The latest storm is called Wipha (25W). Too early to tell whether the Fukushima reactors are at risk.

    http://www.typhoon2000.ph/multi/?name=WIPHA


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Japan is always being hammered with tropical storms/disturbances…


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