Professor: Do not examine Fukushima children for health problems because it’s likely to cause harm — Abnormalities would be found, leading to unnecessary tests

Published: March 2nd, 2012 at 10:43 am ET
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Title: Fukushima Health Impact: Minimal?
Source: Wall Street Journal
Authors: Keith Johnson and Peter Landers
Date: Mar. 2, 2012

[...] The panelists estimated that the risk of getting cancer for those exposed would increase by about 0.002%, and the risk of dying from cancer would rise by 0.001%.

“I received more radiation on my transcontinental flights from Tokyo to Washington than I did at the reactor site,” said John Boice, a professor at Vanderbilt University and the incoming president of the National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurements. [...]

Japan has started a program to screen children in Fukushima prefecture with ultrasound exams every two years until they turn 20. [Robert Peter Gale, visiting professor at Imperial College London] questioned whether that was a good idea, saying the ultrasounds would inevitably find abnormalities and lead to unnecessary biopsies and other tests. “You can imagine a whole cascade of things driven by political considerations,” he said. “It’s meant to do good but it’s likely to cause harm.”

Read the report here

For more on this panel of experts see The New York Times piece from yesterday: Sizing Up Health Impacts a Year After Fukushima

UPDATE: Time.com has a similar piece up at: http://ecocentric.blogs.time.com/2012/03/02/nuked-how-bad-was-fukushima/

Noticing a pattern here? Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Time… were USATODAY and WaPo too busy?

If you prefer facts and reporting on events happening in Japan, see:

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41 comments to Professor: Do not examine Fukushima children for health problems because it’s likely to cause harm — Abnormalities would be found, leading to unnecessary tests

  • StillJill StillJill

    An ultrasound every two years IS NOT GOING TO CAUSE HARM,……it's also NOT GOING TO FIND RADIATION,…nor cancer usually! Good job Assholes!


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    • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

      Do not test the children, because it will cause HARM; TO THE NUCLEAR INDUSTRY… He is telling the truth, but leaving off the correct ending.

      NO parent wants their child to have a WORSE radioactive filled, disease/deformity/cancer filled future than they had; at least not the healthy ones.


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      • Kevin Kevin

        This is precisely the irony or maybe a better word is hypocricy.

        Here we have a medical professional doing his job. Going the extra mile to ensure children are not harmed.

        Unfortunately this individual and notion is/was completely absent when it mattered and actually counted.

        To apply such a notion now is simply a personal disgrace for this person and an unbelievable application of their proffessional duties whose ultimate victim is the most innocent amongst us and whose ultimate benefactor the most guilty and reprehensible.

        This person should be instantly fired, made an example of in a bid to right the wrongs of their malfeasance.

        If they can demonize and marginalize those who wish to protect the most innocent from harm we certainly can apply the same who wish to protect the most vile and guilty.

        Incomprehensible, reprehensible, indefensibile behaviour IMHO.


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  • maaa

    Dont test the children, abnormalites will be found, cancer will develop, alot of them will die, then our nuclear industry will be screwed, professor will lose his job, people will sue him for telling lies, he can't take it, commit sucide.


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    • Misitu

      You can see the fear in their eyes as history closes in.


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    • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

      Actually, they are finding the growths in thyroid glands, 1/3 of all children in Fukushima Province now have them.

      But then what do they do?

      Right now they are just 'watching' them.

      Dr. Helen Caldicott MD says that is not medical treatment. If they are truly doctors then they have to DO TESTS, and see if they are cancerous growths. She predicted that if the nuclear industry 'allows' this to go further, then many of these growths will be found be cancerous.

      How will the parents feel, when their child ends up having cancer that spreads and kills their child, while the government, TEPCO and medical professionals just stood by and 'watched'?

      Hmmmmmm, not a hard to figure out..


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  • Nukites

    Tow the line. It doesn't matter how absurd. Keep comparing it to airplane rides.

    Fortunately for humanity, the foundation of nuclear lies is crumbling.


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  • HoTaters HoTaters

    He's from the NCRP ! What do you expect? This is the result of "Health Physics" at work.

    NCRP, ICRP, NRC, IAEA, hmmn …. Your tax dollars at work.

    As for what he said, in a word, revolting.


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    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Have a look at the NCRP website if you have time. Quite an eye opener.

      Am wondering if our boy A4P1 is an NCRP guy.

      "I work to help keep you safe," said Dracula.


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      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Now let me have a look at that neck.


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        • HoTaters HoTaters

          I need to stop posting so many messages here!

          This Dr. Boice character would probably say the orange in my avatar picture would be safe to eat, too.

          BTW, doesn't it look like it has tiny arms curled up around its innards, like it's begging for mercy?

          All creation is begging for mercy.


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          • or-well

            It looks to me like a one-eyed orange, mouth open, toothless, screaming for mercy from Pro-nukers ruthless,
            shriveled weak arms raised in supplication, praying for an end to nuke-bomination.


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  • or-well

    "Reports of tumors
    are no more than rumors
    spread by conspiracy-paranoid Doomers.
    No "Authorized Study"
    shows such results,
    for Best Happy Data
    it's best to consult
    Appointed Specialist Media Talkers."
    (AKA shills and soulless Skin-walkers).
    Nobody's dying from what can't be proved
    to be anything other than what pre-existed
    because relevant data has all been removed
    or baseline comparison hopelessly twisted
    by studies NOT DONE, covered up, cherry-picked,
    give us more funding,
    we'll get this thing licked,
    with Professorial spit and some polish
    you'll be good-to-go
    on your way to a death
    from what you can't know.


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      • or-well

        WOW WOW WOW !
        I ticked "cool" at the bottom cuz it is SO COOL for YOU to have done that!
        I'm going to tell little or-well right now!
        The small "o" gets discouraged at times and so do I, but with support from the "community" we think it's worth keepin' on!
        If even one line triggers one critical or dissenting thought in one person, it's worth it!
        (This one above is a rerun…SHHHH…don't tell anybody…I DID change one word so it's OK, heh heh…)


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        • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

          I will keep adding to this blog and (hopefully sooner rather than later) this will be in a book that I am working on, combining all of these 'chapters' now in the form of blogs, into one Ebook.

          Your poetry will be part of that.

          Pretty soon, you will be able to say you are a published poetry author.


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          • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

            Without ENENEWS, none of this would have been possible, so I want to take this and every other opportunity I can to give a HUGE shoutout to the founder of this place, and the rest of this community, that is OH SO AWESOME…

            Thanks to everyone for being who you are and making this a special place, a special time, even though it is difficult, sad, frustrating and more…

            Feel the love, express the love, stay in the love, do what you love… while taking action.


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            • or-well

              Ditto.
              AND, I often think how neat it would be if any graphic artists "out there"…hello?…would "drop by" with an original contribution to share with us!
              I see pictures in my head sometimes when or-well gets rolling but I can't draw and or-well doesn't have a body, so…


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  • Bob Hardin Bob Hardin

    From the article:

    "The model used to decide what radiation level is safe is based on some squishy assumptions – including the assumption that the same amount of radiation is much less dangerous when it comes over a long period of time than when the exposure is acute…."


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  • HoTaters HoTaters

    At least the "squishy" part is honest.

    Squishy rad puke, yeah, that's it!


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  • Man them lieing peoples pants are ON FIRE !!!


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    • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

      Probably caught those pants on fire, from all of the hot particles that they are responsible for worldwide.

      Either that, or all of the hot air that they are spouting, circled around the globe and kissed them you know where, causing you know what, to catch on fire.


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  • lam335 lam335

    It's likely to cause harm … to the nuclear industry's interests and to the government's interests. If you don't do the tests, there won't be any data to unsettle their convenient assumptions and risk models.


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  • Bobby1

    SCAM NUMBER SIX: Beguile the public with inappropriate comparisons between external irradiation and internal contamination.

    The proliferation of nuclear weapons and commercial nuclear power plants has succeeded in deluding the public of the hazards of internal contamination. Covering up the danger of radioactivity within the body from human-generated radioisotopes is the bedrock upon which the entire nuclear behemoth is secured. A common tactic used to dupe critical thinking on issues of radiation safety is to liken the dose received from internal emitters to the dose received by natural background radiation. This is very sophisticated flimflam. To the uninformed, it appears perfectly logical that dose is dose; regardless of how the energy is delivered to the body, the end result will be the same. If we receive small doses of radiation naturally just from dwelling on planet Earth or while flying in an airplane, and if these are harmless, it seems quite reasonable to conclude that the same doses delivered by internal emitters will likewise be inconsequential. By now the reader knows the con hidden within this line of thinking. It was extensively explored in Exhibit A. The biological effect of a dose of radiation depends totally on how that dose is delivered to the body. By natural background radiation, ionizing events are widely distributed both in space and time throughout the mass of the body. By contrast, internal emitters have the capacity of repeatedly hitting the same cellular structures within a small volume of tissue. In instances where “doses” are comparable, the hazard posed by internal emitters will be greatly enhanced.

    From the book "A Primer in the Art of Deception: The Cult of Nuclearists, Uranium Weapons and Fraudulent Science." by Paul Zimmerman

    http://du-deceptions.blogspot.com/2010/05/trial-of-cult-of-nuclearists-scam_20.html


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    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Thanks for bringing Zimmerman's book up again. Great read!

      Zimmeman did a really good job of pointing out the flaws in nuke-think and the way the pro-nukers rationalize and trivialize the risks of nuclear energy, nuclear weapons.


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    • StillJill StillJill

      Excellent Bobby1!!! This 'Zimmerman', and his book are going to be quite valuable it sounds. I will buy a copy to read and be better ARMED! :-)


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  • jonjon

    I thought comparing internal radiation exposure from radionucleides to airplane flights was relegated to some kind of bad joke.

    I guess not. They'll keep at it until it becomes an accepted truth. There need to be a serious campaign to stop these lies from proliferating and holding the people who perpetrate them liable and punishable in a court of law.


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    • Spectrometising

      jonjon…I disagree !!..

      Lobotomy cannot be ruled out. There seems to be thousands of lobotomised administration out there at the moment..

      You can punish someone who has a brain or is remotely human. They would at the very least need to be mammals.

      Punishment would not work on the lower life forms.


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    • gottagetoffthegrid

      nope the shills are still out and about using that one. one shill went as far as stating that internal Cs exposure was equivelent to external because gamma radiation field produced penetrated all the way thru you so it didn't matter if it was inside or out.

      of course he conveiniently forgot to rememger Cs beta decays first into Ba137 which then gives off the gamma. its the beta that fries your heart.


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      • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

        It is also different in that an EXTERNAL radiation you can run from, and hide. Even cosmic rays go right through you..

        But, once you eat a gamma ray, beta ray, or alpha ray source, you are in deep doo doo.. cause that particle will keep frying you from the INSIDE, FOREVER. You cannot run. You cannot hide. It will make no difference to this yahoo, his insides will get fried whether he believes it or not.

        Appearance and BELIEF does NOT trump REALITY.


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  • aigeezer aigeezer

    John Boice in April 2011 "I'm not concerned at all".

    Here he is in full downplay mode on cable news outlets shortly after the disaster began:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiB48G8E-cE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvT5EDU5vTc


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  • lam335 lam335

    John Boyce has been wrong before:

    re: radioactive water in the Pacific: "When the… radioactive water gets into the ocean … it's diluted … The Pacific is … a pretty large ocean, and it's dispersed and diluted. So the overall impact would be relatively minor when its farther and farther away from the Fukushima plants… The water, you know, it's just dispersion and dilution as it spreads out over those thousands and thousands and thousands of miles…" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiB48G8E-cE

    BUT:
    "Levels of radiation in the sea off the Fukushima-Daiichi nuclear plant remain stubbornly high six months after the earthquake and tsunami struck … rather than being spread through the whole ocean, currents are keeping a lot of the material concentrated…a strong ocean current called the kuroshio may be responsible for the persistence of the radiation. The kuroshio… creates huge eddies 80 to 100 kilometres across, which may send the material back towards the shore instead of dispersing it.
    http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20990-fukushimas-radioactive-sea-contamination-lingers.html

    "The scientists had expected to find ocean radiation levels falling off sharply after a few months, as radioactive substances were dispersed by the currents…. But there was also an unpleasant surprise. “Rather than leveling off toward zero, it remained elevated in late July,’’ he said, up to about 10,000 becquerel per cubic meter. ‘‘That suggests the release problem has not been solved yet.” http://green.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/28/fukushimas-contamination-produces-some-surprises-at-sea/

    So Boyce was wrong about the ocean dispersion–that's bad for fish, but less directly impacts human beings. If he's wrong about the kids too, the stakes are much higher for them as individuals. The earlier cancers are discovered, the better the prognosis for patients.

    Boyce should not be so confident in his own infallibility.


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    • aigeezer aigeezer

      Agreed, lam335. Minor point – It's Boice, not Boyce – unusual spelling – makes his stuff easy to retrieve though.

      Here's a pro-nuke site piling on to endorse his "don't worry" theme last April:

      http://neinuclearnotes.blogspot.com/2011/04/john-boice-fukushima-radiation-threat.html

      You can see how the spin-machine always comes up with the same tired points (bananas, transcontinental flights, dispersion, dilution, a little bit is good for you, we all live in a sea of low level radiation, blah blah).


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    • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

      I wonder whether that has anything to do with #3 exploding and spreading a full load of spent fuel pool nuke puke all over the surrounding 8 square miles or so?

      Lots of those square miles included OCEAN. What does the ocean do when it is bombarded with nuke puke putting out high radiation from the bottom of the ocean?

      It would make sense that radiation levels stay high. They will stay there until about 250,000 years from now, when probably the whole ocean will become one big, huge, supposedly diluted, but deadly radioactive waste pit where everything in it is dangerously radioactive.


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  • lam335 lam335

    Robert Peter Gale says that, while there were about "6,000 excess cases of thyroid cancer" among young people post-Chernobyl, "Other concerns, such as genetic abnormalities and birth defects, have fortunately not materialized." He continues:

    "The Americans have recommended that all citizens evacuate the area within an 80-kilometer (50-mile) radius of the stricken power plant. The Germans have moved their embassy to Osaka. Even people who are really well informed have left Tokyo in the belief that you can never be careful enough.

    Though I can understand this reasoning, it's wrong. What's more, it sends a devastating message to the Japanese who have to stay. They have started to distrust their own government, and fear is spreading. This is a terrible side effect of this excessive concern — and the panicked reaction — in Germany.

    Indeed, it is clear that the major long-term issues with an accident at a nuclear power station are not medical; instead, they are political, psychological and economic. Given these circumstance, the German response to the Fukushima accident needs to be thoughtful and considered, instead of emotional and political…. If such an analysis is done, I suspect nuclear energy will come out in a favorable light."

    "Why German Nuclear Worries Are Both Wrong and Harmful"
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,755267,00.html


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    • aigeezer aigeezer

      One irony is that Gale wrote a book titled "Chernobyl: the Final Warning", dated 1988.

      The book seems to have been something of a dud. Here's a review fragment from the Amazon site:

      "From Publishers Weekly
      Gale is the UCLA physician who led the international medical team that treated victims of the Chernobyl nuclear meltdown. His first-person recreation of the rescue effort, told with an assist from Hauser (The Execution of Charles Horman), is disappointing. What might have been a moving account of heroism and tragedy is submerged in personal trivia and dull writing. There is little here that has not been covered in the news media, and the close-ups of Gorbachev, Shultz and Armand Hammer (who helped persuade the Soviets to accept medical relief) are of mild interest. The authors' recommendations include better training of nuclear personnel, a national program to respond to disasters in the U.S. and building nuclear plants away from dense population centers. Their proposed reforms are sketchy and anticlimactic."


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    • lam335 lam335

      re: "Other concerns, such as genetic abnormalities and birth defects, have fortunately not materialized."

      Evidently he thinks the following is immaterial:

      http://inmotion.magnumphotos.com/essay/chernobyl


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  • Sickputer

    “I received more radiation on my transcontinental flights from Tokyo to Washington than I did at the reactor site,” said John Boice, a professor at Vanderbilt University and the incoming president of the National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurements"

    SP:

    Well Johnny…I guess you didn't take the side trip up to the third floor of Reactor 2. Maybe you could have rescued Quince 1 since you are such a Superman impervious to radiation!

    Interesting news from your former boss who doesn't have a lot nice to say about you:

    http://www.emf-health.com/reports-drcarlo-danishstudy.htm


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