Seismologist: Coastline beneath Fukushima nuclear plant could crack open during quake — Japan sits with possibility of having it ripped open (AUDIO)

Published: November 28th, 2013 at 11:06 pm ET
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Interview with investigative journalist Linda Moulton Howe, The Unexplained with Howard Hughes, Oct. 26, 2013 (at 40:30 in): If you went back into my Earthfiles news site, I remember very specifically doing an interview with a seismologist looking at the what we’ll call the network of major fault lines in the ocean basin that is surrounding Japan. It was a very sobering interview […] The worst possibility is there could be a seismic event that could literally crack open the coastline on which Fukushima sits […] If there is a seismic event that just tears through, we’re talking about something that maybe is off the charts in terms of comprehensibility […] Japan still sits with the possibility of having it ripped open […]

Howe’s interview with seismologist Professor John Rundle is no longer available to visitors, only subscribers (earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1825&category=Environment). Here’s an excerpt: Japan Seismic Agency Says Strong Chance of 7.0 Aftershocks. Pattern of Quakes Headed Toward Tokyo […] John Rundle, Ph.D., Professor of Physics and Geology, University of California – Davis:  “Yes, I would agree with JMA. The initial aftershocks were in the area of Sendai in the first hours after the main event. Since March 11, 2011, the aftershocks have begun to migrate to the southwest towards Tokyo. They have basically reached Tokyo. With such a huge earthquake, a magnitude 9.0, according to common seismological principles and observed laws we would expect to see Japan aftershocks now include one magnitude 8.0 quake and roughly ten magnitude 7.0 earthquakes and roughly 100 magnitude 6.0 earthquakes. So far the largest aftershock magnitude has been a 6.8. […]

Listen to Howe’s appearance on ‘The Unexplained’ here

Published: November 28th, 2013 at 11:06 pm ET
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64 comments to Seismologist: Coastline beneath Fukushima nuclear plant could crack open during quake — Japan sits with possibility of having it ripped open (AUDIO)

  • Nick

    "The worst possibility is there could be a seismic event that could literally crack open the coastline on which Fukushima sits"..

    It's my understanding that some of this already happened at the plant, the ground shifted and fault lines showed up through the complex, cracking the structures and possibly causing some of the damage to the plant before the tsunami hit.

    This is one reason why the missing coriums are interfacing with the groundwater flow and draining into the ocean.

    If more of the coast subsides, then it seems prudent to not use Fukushima as a nuclear dump or fuel pool storage area (like the common spent fuel pool).

    But this is true for any nuclear power plant, storgae on site is not a very wise nor prudent endeavor.

    Japan's problems are compounded by geological forces. Humans should realize that fission dreams become nightmares. Eternal ones at that.

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Agree, the common spent fuel pool isn't the best place to store the waste. They apparently have to start somewhere. Still, wonder if there isn't at least SOME spent fuel which could be moved offsite. Anything to try to mitigate the risk(s) ….

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Meant, they have to start somewhere — a place to store some of the fuel assemblies being moved. But the common pool isn't a good place to store it, long term. The plant is a wreck.

        • AllenH AllenH

          People are just naturally irresponsible and could not even look after anything for an extended length of time. All the used nuclear fuel around the world is only a ticking time bomb.
          They should try to move those assemblies away from the coast though. But in Japan there is way too much seismic activity. Isn't Fukushima basically just a big pile of mud? With the constant bombardment of water above and underneath all the time, surely somethings going to give? I am no geologist though, but just thinking……

      • Gradius

        Never forget. Site 4 is *NOTHING* compared to 1, 2 and 3 sites. Never forget.

    • mairs mairs

      There is a difference between fault lines and cracking in the ground due to earthquake activity.

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Russian Scientist Predicts “Massive Earthquake” to Hit Japan by End of 2014
    Apr 10, 2013
    “During the European Geosciences Union (EGU) Convention in Vienna on 9 April, a Russian scientist declared that Japan would face a giant earthquake of magnitude 9.0 within the next year and a half.
    “Alexei Ryubushin of the Schmidt Institute of the Physics of the Earth presented his findings which were arrived at from collecting low frequency seismic noise data through F-net.
    “F-net is a ‘full range seismograph network of Japan’ which promotes earthquake research by providing high sensitivity seismic data, crustal deformation observations and other information which could be useful in monitoring the behavior of earthquakes.
    “During the convention he pointed out that there is still stress remaining on the crust following the Great Tohoku Earthquake of 2011. However, he predicts the next quake to take place in another location.
    “’From 2013 to 2014 a great earthquake will occur in the region of the Nankai Trough (a trench that extends along the bottom of the sea from Shizuoka to Kyushu pictured below).’…”
    http://en.rocketnews24.com/2013/04/10/russian-scientist-predicts-massive-earthquake-to-hit-japan-by-end-of-2014/

    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Damage from earthquakes? Plenty of nuke plants to choose from. Lots of potential sites to be damaged or destroyed. Not to mention the countless industrial sites near the coastline in Japan.

    • dka

      10 more or less it does not really matter. A movement of the Philippines plate south of Shizuoka, which is already due to happen, could very well cause not only an already due eruption of Mt Fuji but also a major tsunami. Nuclear reactors can't handle 8+ earthquakes (offshore the Great Tohoku earthquake was a 9.1, but at Fukushima and Tokyo is was an 8+ and 5+ respectively). So there is no way that the reactors in Japan are safe. Some are not so far from Mt Fuji, the Philippines plate associated faults and sits on the coast. It is just a matter of time (and luck or bad luck).

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Astronomer warns of major earthquake in Kansai as early as next week
    Sep 4, 2013
    “After last month’s false alarm of a large earthquake over our mobile phones, Nara and surrounding area residents’ blood pressures are finally getting back to normal. Well, don’t put away those paper bags yet. Now there’s another reason to worry. Research out of Yatsugadake Nanroku Observatory is suggests that we can expect a major earthquake of at least magnitude 7 to hit somewhere in the Kansai area from next week….
    “Therefore, when Kushida passes his FM waves through the ionosphere they experience either a stronger or weaker resistance. Throughout his experimentation he has discovered these changes prior to the 1995 Great Hanshin Earthquake, 2008 Iwate Miyagi Nairiku Earthquake, and several aftershocks following the Great Tohoku Earthquake of 2011….”
    http://en.rocketnews24.com/2013/09/04/astronomer-warns-of-major-earthquake-in-kansai-as-early-as-next-week/

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Researcher: Japan should prepare for worst-case magnitude-10 earthquake
    November 23, 2012
    “…Matsuzawa said a magnitude-10 quake is possible in theory if a large fault slips.
    “If a temblor of such a scale should strike, the underground rupture would continue for 20 minutes to an hour, meaning tsunami could hit coasts before the shaking subsides.
    “If a 3,000-kilometer stretch from the Japan Trench to the Kuril-Kamchatka Trench along the Pacific Ring of Fire has a slip of 60 meters, that would constitute a magnitude-10 earthquake, he said.
    “The energy of a magnitude-11 quake, 30 times more powerful than a magnitude-10 temblor, would be equivalent to that of the asteroid impact that is believed to have caused the extinction of the dinosaurs 65.5 million years ago. Such a quake would cause a shift extending more than 20,000 kilometers. Matsuzawa concluded that consideration would not be needed for such an earthquake.”
    http://ajw.asahi.com/article/behind_news/social_affairs/AJ201211230030

  • Nick

    Last night I was perusing a document made by a relative of mine in the 1940s, a timeline of earth's history, in which mention is given to the effects of tides on the oceans and life-forms, tides induced by the sun and moon.

    He correctly deduced that the 29 day cycles of moon tides had a profound influence on the development of life…since it's so regular, etc.

    I'm beginning to wonder if other extra-planetary forces may influence some of earth's restless nature. Maybe even the Milky-Way and our position in it affects plate-tectonics?

    Maybe charged particles from a CME are enough to trigger fault line slippage, as the magnetic fields flux through the mantle?

    Don't know,

    But do know that the earth is constantly recycling itself. Here's hoping Fukushima's horrors don't get sucked into the earth's mantle, only to spew out again in unimaginable fury. That would suck. Worse than things stand now.

  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar anne

    Japan Predicts Major Earthquake & Tsunami in future: Fukushima up
    Oct 18, 2012
    "Japan Predicts Major Earthquake On Pacific Coastline

    http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/20121018_18.html

    "Radars installed off Wakayama to observe tsunami
    http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/20121018_16.html

    "80 year nuclear plant re-licensing in United States, are they Suicidal?
    "Helen Caldicott & David Freeman Nuclear Power: Life & Death p.1 of 4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-1xZaoEQkM
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfrilF-5ACY&feature=channel&list=UL

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  • Earthquake Resistance And Nuclear Power Plants; 100% Failure Rate So Far; via @AGreenRoad
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2013/09/earthquake-resistance-and-nuclear-power.html

  • Watch The Unbelievable 19,000+ Earthquakes In Japan That Happened During 2011 Alone; via @AGreenRoad
    http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2013/09/watch-20000-earthquakes-in-japan-during.html

  • w29r7 w29r7

    It's really quite heartbreaking to read & watch all these materials and events…, + the Philippines super mega storm;
    thanks for all the useful information, though it's also quite
    difficult to comprehend.

  • timemachine2020 timemachine2020

    People of Japan Leave now!

  • timemachine2020 timemachine2020

    Total Horseshit article with inop inks

  • wetpwcas1 wetpwcas1

    Today is a differnt world than we haver known, I give thanks to those who bring awareness like RadChick & Dana who has been on live on youtube for every day for I don't know long, then there Hartrick Penry, Kevin Branch & so many more whon efforts have brought hope where there is none, we just can't give up as I know what it's like to be left to die in a hosiptal far from home, we must expose the truth & keep above the lies we are feed by yje corporations who will die as we do, if they know one to sell to what they have, nothing but their pilles of wealth that will not save their soul! So try your best to make as many as you can aware Fukushima & the whole Nuclear complex is unsafe & evil!

  • dukie

    Hey gang,

    Need a laugh? Check out 'Vital Choice Wild Seafood & Organics'
    They test their Alaska seafood and guess what…? It tests ok.
    —————————————————————

    "(Somewhat to our surprise, Vital Choice remains the only retailer to reveal the results of radiation tests on Pacific seafood.)

    Recent reports of new – albeit far smaller – leaks from Japan’s Fukushima nuclear plant prompted contacts from concerned customers.

    When, earlier this month, we sent off fish samples for a third round of tests we hoped for – and fully expected – more good results.

    Why did we remain optimistic?

    Dilution and distance should protect the purity of seafood caught more than 100 miles east of Japan’s Fukushima nuclear plant … much less fish like ours, caught 1,000 to 3,000 miles from that coast.

    Those predictions even encompass species that may swim through eastbound Japan-to-U.S. currents.

    Encouragingly, the consensus scientific view now enjoys support from three rounds of tests on Vital Choice Pacific seafood"

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  • dukie

    Seoul: A "safety-related action" automatically shut down one of its 23 nuclear reactors on Thursday, South Korea's nuclear operator said, bringing the tally of those closed to six and hiking chances of possible power blackouts this winter.

    Asia's fourth largest economy faces severe power shortages again this winter due to cuts in nuclear power use after a nuclear corruption scandal that started in late 2012.

    "We are now looking into the cause of the shutdown and it is not yet clear when the reactor will restart," said a spokesman at operator Korea Hydro & Nuclear Power.

    Operation of the 587-megawatt Kori No. 1 reactor, over 300 km southeast of Seoul, was suspended early on Thursday morning.

    The reactor, which started operation in 1978, had recently returned from nearly 180 days of scheduled maintenance through October 5, according to KHNP's website.

    The unit's license to operate was extended another 10 years in end-2007, another KHNP spokesman noted.

    South Korea has been striving to curb power demand ahead of winter amid the cutbacks in nuclear power, which provides about a third of the nation's electricity.

    Industry data shows South Korea's peak demand will mark a record high or more than 81,000 MW this winter, about 5,000 MW lower than total supply capacity.

    Six nuclear reactors are now offline, including three shut because of control cables supplied with fake safety certificates, according to the KHNP website.

    A fourth is…

  • dukie

    A fourth is awaiting an extension of its license after its 30-year life span expired in November of last year; a fifth is shut for scheduled maintenance through end-December.

    http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/south-korea-nuclear-reactor-hit-by-automatic-shutdown-six-units-now-off-451965

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Good..shut all this Nuclear crap down worldwide and do it now!

    Koreans surely are smart enough to figure out when they have been duped.

    No more renewals for any of these Nuclear rattle traps anywhere on this planet…… 🙁

  • CB CB

    I like to watch the increase of radiation measurements roll across the continent while watching CNN headline news.
    http://netc.com/

    Pacific Jet Stream http://tinyurl.com/y9u8krb

  • SadieDog

    voiceofrussia.com/news/2013_11_26/Fukushima-nuclear-disaster-causes-cancer-and-birth-defects-in-US-newborns-epidemiologist-1487/

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Some one talking geology ..how interesting.
    I agree with a poster above the rip has already happened.,,this already having occurred during the original earthquake..and enhanced during a 6.8 a month later..and all subsequent earthquakes..(my nonscientific term).. doing the 'jiggly wiggly'.
    The faults under Fukushima have already been disturbed. .the groundwater has been disturbed.. causing subsidence.
    This is build up top of coastal geology… a sheer zone.
    Whether or not..this process presents itself in a huge earthquake…or in the natural process.. loose coastal geological material will take. It's all headed for the sea.

    Let's not be drama queens.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    PS.. When we are done discussing the natural effects of the earthquake.
    It might be good to contemplate the geological changes concerning the presence of the corium.

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    C A N . H A P P E N . A N Y W H E R E

    Quakes, human error, design flaws, it's too dangerous, we're sick of nuclear technology.

  • Socrates

    Japan has worse seismic conditions than Yucca Mountain. Storing anything dangerous there is insanity. Anyone who has studied plate tectonics realizes that the mantle of the earth floats atop the magma. Principles of isostatic readjustment characterize crystal movements.

    Japan is in the Ring of Fire. I learned all this over fifty years ago now. I studied it at UCIA and was in the field and lab. What stupidity allowed the peace for atoms in a tsunami zone on top of must one in a subduction zone on top of an underground river? $$$$

    There will be aftershocks of very large magnitude. Nuclear energy production creates risks of unimaginable proportions worldwide. People could use geothermal and solar but for the weapons industry and the death grip of corporations and individuals who gained power and made money on this madness.

    When the big one (s) hit, which they will again and again, life will be extinguished on this planet with the exception of a few species that are able to withstand extremely high levels of radioactivity. Iodine releases will destroy the ozone lawyer that protects earth from cosmic rays.

    I have always marveled at the stupidity of most human beings. There is nothing so rare as common sense. It is past time to shut down this ultra hazardous activity before the sheer stupidity kills us all.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Actually… I was musing on this photo.
    Looking at the gang plank..right next to it…and of course musing on the stupidity of the Human species.

    Faults around the Tsuruga nuclear power plant.
    Built for supposed permanent safety.

    http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=fault+under+fukushima&go=&qs=bs&form=QBIR#view=detail&id=9E836D0B71A7D1E0E3B5C3BB85958A544C05AFF8&selectedIndex=25

    This is almost a perfect visual example.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    OT..Different plant..I know..
    But someday..someday..people are going to question the actual conditions/safety of the other plants.

    Down the stairs..

    http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=fault+under+fukushima&go=&qs=bs&form=QBIR#view=detail&id=EEF1B7A2666D16BCCCEFB5FED88B0628AD6AA854&selectedIndex=31

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    About that earthquake a month after the original 3/11/2011.
    Here I see it listed as a 7.0…

    http://www.gsi.go.jp/cais/topic110425-index-e.html

    "PALSAR sensor onboard "Daichi" (ALOS) satellite launched by Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency on January 24, 2006"

    Shifty shifty..leads to slinky slinky.
    (How about that for nonscientific terms?)

  • Nick

    Last night over turkey feast I discussed horror films with 2 young ladies. They're interested in screen-writing. I asked if they were paying attention to Fukushima.

    "Well we really don't see much in the news about it."

    I allowed as how they have a perfect hooror script unfolding as we speak, no need to use imagination
    or fantasy, just cold hard documentary.

    One of them said later, that there had to be SOME hope in all this.

    I honestly had to convey the truth that the s has hit the proverbial fan, that the very fabric of living tissue ,DNA is being torn asunder in all manner of species.

    I understand the plea for hope, youth are supposed to yearn for it.

    But when a siuation is hopeless, how does one explain that, yes, things really are that bad?

    At least I know 2 more souls now have to grapple a little harder with the horrors of Fukushima (and fission tinkering in general!).

    They both got what the Pope was saying about simplicity and sustainability, eat local etc.

    But when we can't grow food, seeds lose viability for reproduction from radiation, eating local becomes, shall we say, a moot point.

    As opposed to mute point when dealing with Fukushima (aka Japan's secrecy law).

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Scroll down..check the data along the way..
    Check the models of slippage..

    http://supersites.earthobservations.org/sendai.php

  • cooterboy

    The most important commodity to store and preserve are seeds in times of crisis.

    You see on TV shows people building castles, bunkers and defensive structures but no seed storage containers. There are people who are watching Fukushima and seed storage is a big concern to them. They know you can't eat a dollar bill or a bar of silver. Seeds of heirloom quality will truly be worth their weight in gold and cherished. Protecting seeds from radiation is simple and easy as I've made boxes and containers that radiation cannot penetrate and the seeds will be good for 400 years.

    Don't know about the folks living in the cities but the folks who live in the country are ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING about this mess.
    Talk is cheap. Now is the time to act.

    Bottom line is we are all going to feel the effects of radiation in the coming years. Your enemy will not be the radiation but all of the people leaving the city to get food. You can have our money, our silver, our vehicles but when it comes to our seeds, Charleton Heston's said "Over my dead body".
    Peace

    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

      all good thoughts cooterboy. But I'd point to the fact that after the smoldering remains of modern society come to rest, the nightmare will still remain. Preparation against such long-term debilitating conditions finds us surviving only long enough to be met by a yawning wasteland. Yet, I'm with you on taking every step necessary to ensure the health and welfare of those you deem valuable…

  • ftlt

    Is this risk not true of all loaded and working nuclear plants on the east coast of Honshu!

  • 4Yahshua

    11~29~5995 (out of 6000) RED FRIDAY (NOT BLACK FRIDAY!)NOT HANUKKAH!(That's NEXT month!) In this "Twilight Zone Apocalypse"!

    We weep for the dead and dying creatures of Yahweh's
    earth! Psalm 24:1 The seas are dying! Revelation 16:3
    What we CAN do is believe the TRUTH! We CAN preserve our lives with a diet that fights radiation and cancer cells! Boron, Vitamins C, D3, green tea extract, and iodine (12 mg.) capsules. Almonds in milk and other forms prevents cancer. They contain a natural cyanide that kills cancer. Survival Blessings!

  • We Not They Finally

    Why are they calling earthquakes two and three years later "aftershocks" in the first place? And the one several weeks back they said was "6.8," but that only when the USGS got done downgrading it. The original reading was apparently at least 7.3, possibly 7.5. And there were never any reports of "damages" — just exponentially escalating radiation! God knows what it did.

  • w29r7 w29r7

    How to check on even green tea now?

    Anyone have a link to this "how to approach consumer products" regarding contamination issue?
    When things are comprised of various ingredients from different imports, I doubt the general public would be able to distinguish, and eventually this whole radiation thing will start to take the backseat while the public moves on as usual….

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