Professor: U.S. personnel destroyed thousands of documents to prepare for evacuation of Japan after 3/11 — Bloomberg: “Near-Chernobyl experience” for Tokyo even though 200+ kilometers from Fukushima

Published: February 8th, 2014 at 8:11 pm ET


Bloomberg, Willianm Pesek in Japan, Feb. 6, 2014: […] Anyone who lived through Tokyo’s near-Chernobyl experience in 2011 may recall how poorly NHK performed even then. The network downplayed risks at every turn to avoid panic. Many of us learned about explosions at Fukushima from CNN, BBC and U.S. military news conferences, not Japan’s most trusted news source. Just imagine the next time disaster strikes. Abe’s secrecy law means journalists and whistle-blowers can go to jail for reporting what the government doesn’t want the public to know. It’s nice to know that during the next crisis, when we’re desperate for news, NHK will be ready to distract us with cheerful PR puff pieces. It’s now official policy.

Number 1 Shimbun, Foreign Correspondents Club of Japan, Feb. 4, 2014: Paul Blustein, former Washington Post [and Wall Street Journal reporter who is now affiliated with the Brookings Institution] […] accuses some present members [of the  FCCJ] of propagating misinformation — even of “journalistic malpractice.” […] “I’m referring to the oft-repeated claim that the accident came perilously close to irradiating the Tokyo metropolitan area. […] it is massively at odds with the facts. Propagating it is not just misinformation; it can now be fairly deemed an act of journalistic malpractice […] It pains me to level such accusations at fellow journalists […] Leading the pack was the New York Times, which carried a front-page story on Feb. 27, 2012 asserting that Kan and his fellow Japanese leaders “secretly considered the possibility of evacuating Tokyo” […]  Jeffrey Bader, who had served on President Obama’s National Security Council, explained that modeling of radiation plumes and weather patterns by Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory – one of the government’s premier scientific facilities – had shown there was no need to consider evacuating Americans from the Tokyo metropolitan area.” […]

Rebuttal from David McNeill, The Economist, Feb. 4, 2014: […] I’m puzzled by this criticism. It seems to suggest that we should outweigh or dismiss the views of Japan’s sitting prime minister at the time of the disaster in favor of those of some U.S. officials in Washington. It also seems to ignore the growing body of evidence to the contrary. To cite only the latest intervention into this debate that I know of, Kyle Cleveland of Temple University Japan has written a well-sourced essay this year revealing that U.S. officials in Japan were concerned enough in March 2011 about the possibility of evacuation to have destroyed thousands of documents at military and diplomatic facilities. Mr. Blustein may also be aware that Kevin Maher, former director of the Office of Japan Affairs also said in his 2011 (Japanese) book, The Japan That Can’t Decide, that U.S. officials in Japan planned to evacuate 90,000 citizens from Tokyo during the disaster. […]

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Published: February 8th, 2014 at 8:11 pm ET


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69 comments to Professor: U.S. personnel destroyed thousands of documents to prepare for evacuation of Japan after 3/11 — Bloomberg: “Near-Chernobyl experience” for Tokyo even though 200+ kilometers from Fukushima

  • dosdos dosdos

    The nuclear industry and its shills deny all hints of cover up, calls such allegations a warped fairy tale, despite the fact that TEPCO and the Japanese government have been caught in lies time and time again. The sad thing is that they have convinced themselves that this denial is the truth, and that anyone who displays concerns over radiation is a fear mongering idiot.

    • jec jec

      Let all the media(and other) people talking about how safe the radiation from Fukushima is and let THEM live in Fukushima with their families. Heck..there is prime waterfront property they can probably purchase for a song!

      • We Not They Finally

        Yeah. "Fukushima Hotel." Welcome, welcome! Stone's throw from the beach. Go take a swim. Come right in, the water's fine.

    • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

      We have entered a time when dark is light, death is life, wrong is right, down is up and bad is good. With moral compasses broken, we are adrift in a sea of lies. And soon we will be smashed upon the rocks of our arrogance. And we will drown in our sorrow.

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        .. 🙂

        • skizexq skizexq

          🙂 🙂 !

          "Wish You Were Here"

          "So, so you think you can tell Heaven from Hell, blue skies from pain?
          Can you tell a green field from a cold steel rail?
          A smile from a veil?
          Do you think you can tell?

          Did they get you to trade your heroes for ghosts?
          Hot ashes for trees?
          Hot air for a cool breeze?
          Cold comfort for change?
          Did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?

          How I wish, how I wish you were here.
          We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year,
          Running over the same old ground.
          What have we found?
          The same old fears.
          Wish you were here.

          • skizexq skizexq

            the satanic druid masonic illuminati mindset infected us long agho nad now coming to the fruition of the "Great Work."
            Alas. Maybe all the conspiracy theorists are right and that this existence is all one big manipulation for most…

      • Gradius

        In other words… the REAL end.

      • Donald Shimoda Donald Shimoda

        This was posted by a fellow enenews member in October.

        "The crucified planet Earth,

        should it find a voice
and a sense of irony,

        might now well say
of our abuse of it,

        "Forgive them, Father,
They know not what they do."

        The irony would be
that we know what

        we are doing.

        When the last living thing
has died on account of us,
how poetical it would be
if Earth could say,

        in a voice floating up


        from the floor
of the Grand Canyon,
"It is done."
People did not like it here."

        —–Kurt Vonnegut A Man Without a Country

    • Arizonan Arizonan


      Fukushima Statements Sought for Arizona Rallies:
      If there are any friends here who are or were in Japan at the time of the Fukushima accident, we are looking for statements from survivors about how the Fukushima crisis is affecting them, what they think ought to be done, or anything they would like to say. The statements will be read out at Arizona statewide Fukushima memorial events in March. Do you have any words you would like to share with us? Thank you!

  • Ontological Ontological

    Didn't take long before many JP wound up on the west coast of the USA. Evacuation of so many Tokyo dwellers all at once would have proved difficult at best.

    • atomicistheword


      We as HUMANE beings have a duty of care built within us. It separates us from the beasts of earth. That is what makes our species distinct from beasts. There is a real possibility that the entire nation of Japan may need to be evacuated. Yes, it would be difficult, inconvenient; but I personally would not incumbrance ANY of my family from help. Unlike those whom hate their neighbour and persecute the most vulnerable in society. An example being people fleeing tyrants only to be met with an equally as brutal and anti-human tyrant turning his back on his duty to his family. They perceived he was speaking of them!

      I interpret you comment as "an observation" and not your opinion, my friend. I magnify on your observation with included opinion for those that the cap fits to wear.

      • Capt. Nemo Capt. Nemo

        "We as HUMANE beings have a duty of care built within us. It separates us from the beasts of earth. That is what makes our species distinct from beasts" I wonder if you have ever had a dog, a cat or a horse around? Animals do care. It is has been shown that dogs are altruistic towards other dogs even at risk of their own survival–I am not talking about parents either. Care is not something that just manifests at the human level. On the other hand psychopaths lack this care.


          agreed Capt. Nemo. I have a dog that's more 'human' than most that I've encountered with two legs. I kinda feel sorry for atomicistheword…

          • atomicistheword

            Aftershock, I'm sure that the author of the comment was not offended by the words given to me by one whom bears witness of my life journey. Some may have; to those I say "if the cap fits, wear it proudly!" I trust my guardian, he's not made of paper. Faith without good works is dead faith.

            Casting our attention to Fukushima Japan is a prime example of dead faith.

            Playing GOD has caused this event brought to by General Electric. The great tribulation brought to you by their titanic invention.

            Are you on the right side of history my friend? Don't feel sorry for me as I cry for the little creatures and the babies murdered by pride. The stones cried.

        • atomicistheword

          Captain Nemo, being raised on a farm, I guess I might have a little bit of knowledge in the area you question me on. Yes animals have a degree of intellect that manifests in a form of empathy. But you cannot have a conversant conversation with animals and animals do not control the environment through civilisation? An animal will even turn on its family and kill another for food. This is well established.

          Psychopaths believe that they can control others with donkey carrots and fruit phones; whilst they further their false empire, as the underlings play angrybirds unaware that they are being controlled, even to the extent of death.

          Unwilling to go to war other methods of underling control was explored by taking the disabled ( USA included) to assess the effect of atomic radiation upon them, now that's sick, evil and true bestiality. If they don't get you with atomic radiation their pervert crops of DNA altered plants will. Unproven, now causing illness, blindness, leaking guts etc. One of the frankenstein Mengele corporations make it quite clear that they plan to replace all natural crops with pervert patent crops, so as to totally control food production.

          There is 1.5 times more food for the current population… see documentary…

          BBC Documentary 2013 Genetically Modified Foods in America 2013

      • Ontological Ontological

        atom, I did say it didn't take long because many are here where I live now. And I did say to have evacuated THEN all at once would have been difficult. I fail to see your point. I have been attacked over this point before. I lived through skull cancer for this?

        • atomicistheword

          My friend I was magnifying your point, Their was no attack aimed at you in any way. I did state that I believed you was making an "observation".

          The enemy of mankind is pride (selfishness, GREED, lust for power over others) all attributes of those bestialised beings. In God they trust, Their God isn't doing much for them at the moment. Protecting these manufacturers of death machines is a graven error for America. See the bees next as they die before your eyes, a plague is upon that nation. The year of the horse.

          There is not a day go by where I cry for the little animals murdered by man, the little innocent human babies born into a world poisoned by bestial reversed beings. (devoid of humanity or care)

          • skizexq skizexq

            O.T. -but relevant to your comment:


            yes, 'greed' + 'power' = 'deception'
            we must become more connected, as Dylan said, "and disconnect these cables, this place don't make sense to me no more, can you tell me what we're fighting for Senor?…"

            • atomicistheword

              skizexq, From another feature film highly relevant to the topic…

              Metropolis restored with previously thought lost content… 1927
              how eerie this kinematic masterpiece is relevant to this atomic tribulation.

              Maria: "We shall build a tower that will reach to the stars!" Having conceived Babel, yet unable to build it themselves, they had thousands to build it for them. But those who toiled knew nothing of the dreams of those who planned. And the minds that planned the Tower of Babel cared nothing for the workers who built it. The hymns of praise of the few became the curses of the many – BABEL! BABEL! BABEL! – Between the mind that plans and the hands that build there must be a Mediator, and this must be the heart.

        • Ontological Ontological

          Also just for the record, "tower of Babel" was a mistranslation. Babel was actually engineered to become a rocket launch tower like the Apollo program. To launch "shems"(capsules) to Heaven. We were not grown up enough to play with such advanced toys back then. And we still are not apparently. The ancient Hindu used "flying cities", and electron wind devices long before this time. So why not a rocket tower.
          And those thousands were WILLINGLY doing the work. UNLIKE the slave trade of today.

  • atomicistheword

    These creatures bear witness to your crime … Bald eagles, whales, sharks with cancer, polar bears, birds, butterflies, fish, the pacific ocean and all the way up in ever increasing potency HUMANS!

    Can you shred them away and buy justice?

    Potentially thousands of years of crimes against humanity.

    General Electric atomic radiation power plants caused this event, like the titanic man's pride is revealed.

  • or-well

    Brookings' bullshitter Blustein brings B game, gets bitchslapped.

    • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

      Totally-Blustein the lap-dog. What a sicophantic twisted logic rant of disjointed screed.

      As stated by David McNeill:
      I was here in March 2011 and vividly remember the confusion, uncertainty and fear that permeated all levels of society in Tokyo, including the government. We are now asked to believe that somewhere in Washington a core of officials knew all along that we were worrying about nothing, and that to report otherwise is “malpractice.” — David McNeill, the Independent and Economist

      As I wrote above. Honest reporting is now malpractice.

  • Capt. Nemo Capt. Nemo

    If politicians and other types of leaders could not lie, they would have absolutely nothing to say. Oh, they might speak pleasantries like it's a nice day or it rained a lot last night. For example when Lloyd Blankfein said that Goldman Sacks was doing God's work, do you think he was telling the truth? Or when Obama said if you like your doctor you can keep your doctor? Why would Obama speak so highly of Jamie Dimon the CEO of J.P.Morgan which has committed so many financial frauds? Does anyone really believe these men would go out of their way to save a life if it cost their corporations money or put the government in a bad light? I don't think so. When or if they start doing tests the tests will confirm what they have already said. The Pacific Ocean is vast and Japan is a long way away. So what if a few millions develop cancer and the children leukemia. The world now has an excess of people as it is. No item of news is entirely trustworthy. We are in he dark for good.

  • We Not They Finally

    Paul Blustein's devious accusations against HONEST journalists for telling the truth, is vicious — beyond the lying, downplaying, and/or omission more commonly done by the mainstream.

    He needs to take his Salem witch trials somewhere else. Like he's worked in both D.C. and for the Wall Street Journal. They sound like good places to start. Why doesn't he go whistleblow THEM?

  • humptydumpty humptydumpty

    PUBLIC PANIC is a serious issue that needs to be addressed by governments as a matter of policy — not just the avoidance of over-reaction by the public, but to meet a reasonable expectation of timely and accurate information so people can make decisions that will affect their well being. Anything short of that is a violation of trust of the worst kind and grounds for impeachment or overthrow.

    If the wind direction had changed causing dangerous contamination of the Tokyo area, would the Japanese government be justified in keeping this information from the public in order to avoid "panic"? Absolutely not! To what degree does a threat have to be considered grave enough? This must be addressed.

    If governments won't give the public warnings or information, and if they suppress the media and private individuals from giving them, won't people be MORE inclined to panic when the situation does not warrant their alarm? I should say so! This kind of "shielding" from the truth is ultimately counterproductive because people won't trust ANY authorities, whether they are from government or from institutions that they believe have been corrupted.

    • humptydumpty humptydumpty

      And that is where we stand in the U.S., as well. An increasing number of citizens don't trust the government because they know their interests and well being are not the official priority; instead corporate interests dominate. That is one reason so many people are arming themselves and expressing antipathy toward government no matter what policies are in the spotlight, even those that are beneficial to them. This makes people wary of any attempt to elevate the commons and exacerbates the political divide — an example of counterproductive governance on a broader scale.

    • humptydumpty humptydumpty

      Credible reports indicate there was indeed dangerous hot particle contamination fallout in Tokyo. If the Japanese government believes orderly evacuation of the population might be warranted but is impossible to accomplish, then their whole stance on nuclear power plants and waste needs to change, once and for all. That is the crux of the matter, not only for Japan but for the rest of the world.

  • You need sophisticated equipment to ascertain the radioactive situation. You need equipment that can measure the energy level of specific radionuclides to properly assess the situation. Basic citizens do not have this equipment so how can you make sure the authorities are not lying? How hard would it be to evacuate the 40 million that inhabit Metro Tokyo? How would that effect the world economy? What does history tell us? Trust the politicians? Trust the nuclear industry? How bout trusting the experts? Maybe trust your instinct?
    As the economy seems to be what they want us to be interested in more then saving the environment I have no faith. Pipelines, plastic and irradiated food seem to be ok as far as politicians seem to be. They are all a bunch of crooks including America's great black hope.

    • humptydumpty humptydumpty

      This is why public services need to be isolated as much as possible from commercial interests. The collusion with and coercion by the nuclear industry through all manner of government agencies and private institutions has resulted in this wall of obfuscation and propaganda.

      As the incidence of disease and poverty mounts, people will begin to realize the crimes perpetrated against them and then ferret out the culprits. I believe there will be a reckoning, though it may come too late to save the world from the ravages by those criminals.

      • StPaulScout StPaulScout

        I agree one hundred percent. Certain, if not all, Government services should be so far removed from corporate interests, it like they would be in different worlds. No private ownership of public assets, roads, bridges, water, sewer, schools, etc. Of the people, by the people, for the people….. Try and remember that going forward will some of you.

    • You mean the fascist in chief? His biggest contributors was education and nuclear. Funny how those are the things blowing up the most, literally and cost wise.

  • johnnyo

    my vote for money quote of the week goes to….SykeWar, "…we are adrift in a sea of lies. And soon we will smashed upon the rocks of our arrogance." a keeper that one

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Reuters obtains secret Tokyo evacuation scenario: Fukushima reactors fail as spent fuel rods melt, mix with concrete, and fall into buildings

    Feb 17 2012

    Source: Reuters
    Author: Yoko Kubota
    Date: Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:13am ESTKey points from a scenario document, obtained by Reuters, that was compiled by commission chairman Shunsuke Kondo and entitled “Sketches of Scenarios of Contingencies at Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power plant”


    Massive radioactive contamination forces residents in a 170-km radius or further to evacuate while those in a 250-km radius or further may voluntarily evacuate.

    Tokyo, Japan’s capital, is located about 240 km (150 miles) southwest of the plant and the greater metropolitan area is home to some 35 million people.

    Radiation levels take several decades to fall.

  • razzz razzz

    I keep getting the feeling it is to little to late. Public monitoring in earnest should have been available directly after the blasts at Daiichi. The majority of airborne fallout damage would have occurred back then like a dirty bomb. Dustings making radioactive hotspots, agriculture and water supplies with high radioactive contaminations would all have been at there peaks in a few weeks lasting a few months. Rainout and washout of radioactivity from the atmosphere would have concentrated finding their ways into the oceans and lakes during runoff with very active decaying in large amounts initially.

    Now, the remaining airborne radiation is something we have to live with as part of more background radiation levels with random hotspots. The Pacific Ocean plume is another matter entirely.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    240,000 Bq/Kg at 5km from Imperial Palace
    May 15 2012

    Paul Blustein..trying a little 'huff and bluff'.

    Is he saying that Japan and pal henchman the US..didn't even consider it?.
    All this time I thought ..just for moment ..they knew what it was to be alive.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    "Jeffrey Bader, who had served on President Obama’s National Security Council, explained that modeling of radiation plumes and weather patterns by Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory – one of the government’s premier scientific facilities – had shown there was no need to consider evacuating Americans from the Tokyo metropolitan area.” [.."

    An 'inside man' for an 'inside job'.

  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    Blast from the past: Lucky Dragon 60 years on
    FEB 8, 2014

    Sixty years ago, on March 1, 1954, a Japanese fishing boat named Lucky Dragon No. 5 was doused by radioactive fallout from a U.S. hydrogen-bomb test, codenamed Castle Bravo, on Bikini Atoll in the Marshall Islands. Although the bomb was over 1,000 times more powerful than the one dropped on Hiroshima in August 1945, Bravo was just one of 67 nuclear tests the U.S. conducted in that part of the North Pacific between 1946-58, rendering some atolls uninhabitable.

    On the morning of the test, the wind blew radioactive fallout onto unlucky islanders, American servicemen and that Japanese boat fishing for tuna 160 km east of the blast site, some 32 km outside the exclusion zone. The crew reported that sandy ash fell onto the vessel for a few hours, and soon after they began to suffer nausea. By the time they returned to their home port of Yaizu in Shizuoka Prefecture on March 14, they had serious symptoms of radiation sickness and were hospitalized in Tokyo. The radio operator died six months later with American doctors insisting fallout was not the cause — a finding that Japanese doctors disputed.

    • Angela_R

      clamshellernh, the South Pacific? Here's another, Mururoa Atoll in French Polynesia. The area was subjected to 193 nuclear tests between 1960's and the 1990's. The New Zealand navy challenged their conduct. Rainbow Warrior 1, the boat used by Greenpeace, was sunk by the French. Finally Australia and New Zealand took France to the International Court.

      It is thought that a 1974 test, code named Centaur, caused 100 times the maximum allowed level of plutonium fallout, to fall on Tahiti, 1250 kilometers away.

      In 2012, concerns were raised about the danger of collapse of the Mururoa Atoll.

      "More than 3200 tonnes of various types of radioactive waste was tipped into the Pacific. In February last year, the defence ministry admitted that it was possible that part of the Mururoa atoll might cave in, sapped by the underground tests. A landslide could lead to radioactive matter currently enclosed in the rock being released into the sea."

      • clamshellernh clamshellernh

        What I found interesting is what happened to the fishing industry right after due to concerns . And then what transpired . Yes the pacific ? Thanks for sharing

  • razzz razzz

    Iori Mochizuki explains TEPCO's radiation measuring error…

  • clamshellernh clamshellernh

    Former US contractor admits N. Korea nuclear leak
    (AFP) – 1 day ago
    Washington — A former US government contractor pleaded guilty Friday to leaking "highly classified intelligence" about North Korea's nuclear program and will serve 13 months in prison, officials said.
    Stephen Jin-Woo Kim, a former Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory employee who was assigned to the State Department, agreed to the plea, which must be approved by a judge, according to the US Justice Department.
    Kim was charged with leaking information to Fox News reporter James Rosen in a case that sparked concern about a war on news media, because Rosen was named as a "co-conspirator" in the case.
    The leak revealed the US assessment of military capabilities and preparedness of North Korea. It became the subject of a Fox News dispatch within hours of the 2009 release.
    "Today Stephen Kim admitted to violating his oath to protect our country by disclosing highly classified intelligence about North Korea?s military capabilities," said US Attorney Ronald Machen in a statement.

    • jec jec

      What in the world is 'classified' about this information? Or is the idea to keep the US public in the dark? Since the 'public' funds the work..shouldn't we be aware of the situation? Of course, if our agents are compromised that's a separate of lives. of lives..what about Fukushima fallout on the US West Coast?? Does that endanger 'safety' of citizens lives?? Can't see why its dangerous to be telling our citizens about N. Korea military capabilties or the status of Fukushima fallout/radiation contamination! We are not mindless zombies needed hand feeding to survive daily life…the 'king' syndrome is alive and well in Washington DC and the White House!

      • SykeWar(DELETED) SykeWar

        All information must be "shaped" into a form useful to further one's agenda. You can't just let information loose willy-nilly. All data must be owned. And the strongest own the most.

    • StPaulScout StPaulScout

      And yet the world turns….

  • atomicistheword

    What to do with atomic radiated land….

    Why build a concentration camp to house boat people fleeing tyranny, of course! That's what the Australian government has done.

    Welcome to Christmas Island….

    Christmas Island Atomic Bomb Test



  • rogerthat

    The saddest thing is the way the former bastions of the press have trashed their reputations. Why bother to read them, they have discredited themselves so thoroughly as to be worthless as sources of information. They have yet to report what happened at Fukushima. This is now almost three years on. When are they going to tell the world's eight billion people that the planet on which we live has been irradiated beyond redemption. When are they going to tell them that the more radiation they eat or drink or inhale the worse their lives are going to be. When are they going to suggest that they pay attention to what they eat or drink or breathe in, to try to minimise the risk of an early (and horrible) death? How can anyone imagine that this catastrophic lack of information is the fault of Tepco or the Japanese? The US and the world knew exactly what was happening as it happened. This was monitored to the nth degree by dozens of countries. The technology to do this has been in place since the cold war. When are people going to be told the truth?

  • bluetick

    the first and only mistake I need from this story is Obama did not feel a evac was necessary..yeah right like i believe anything the US govt says…hahahhahahhahahahahha ha hahhahha h ah ah hahahahhah ah aha ha ha ahah

    US GOVT is a JOKE! as long as markets are open everything is OK! wink

  • bluetick

    why did professor pull all his money from the banking system

    withdrew 1 million in cash..

    250,000 of 650,000 for gulf war on permanent total disability.. where did the govt go wrong.. well they did not give them enough radiation DU to kill them of course.. why would they want 250000 useless people laying around on the books…with gulf war syndrome or known otherwise as DU contamination…

    my best guess is they must have found a way to get to a new world as this one is finished till mother nature can come in a mop it up….

    my big question is what will the next period hold for the earth, what new creature will emerge in a couple billion years… will be very interesting…good news is mother earth has been wiped clean many times and to her its no big deal…a new transmeolic period will begin and new creature will crawl from the oceans to repopulate…..

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Great Thread! 🙂

  • Ontological Ontological

    Documents are always meant to be tatters in the wind.
    I lived through enough of this hell already, now surely I will die in it also. So much for the dark sky preservation war I fought, so much for organic gardens, and natural living, So much for brown sky reduction. So much for saving the night moths, so much for astronomy. So much for all of the caring things I did. Now I get told by an impossible CLAUDE of a guard, "You WILL be arrested and thrown in jail Mr.!" for posting a lousy don't eat the fish poster. THESE GOVERNMENT PEOPLE MUST BE SHOT NOW!

    • Ontological Ontological

      Off topic so stick this where you will. Done blogging here. Been nice knowing most of you, but I am gone. Idiots like Socref have won despite any "positive" change. The pain I suffer is too huge, no one even cares. My family, not one of them asked me if I am ok after a year has passed since I survived skull cancer. Have fun suffering the inevitable, horrible cancer pain due each and every one of you soon people. If you EVER voted for GOOD, then you were suckered BAD by those whom do NOT care.
      Live long and prosper. But you won't do either. There is no fix for FUFU. There is no fix for morons, no fix for government, no fix for uncaring corporate greed, and no fix for me. Good night people of Earth. Sweet dreams to each and every one of you! Enjoy your bran new Cadillac SUV. I hope it is worth the world's former beauty to you.
      O'Bummer. Bedtime for you Mr. Bonzo. Regan had you beat out by far! Your peace prize was given to you by war mongering asses!

      • clamshellernh clamshellernh

        I'm sorry you feel so bad , and I know we all care about you here .
        I really hope you feel better under the circumstances. Please don't leave us
        Take a break maybe as this is a lot to consume day after day , I know that for me anyways .
        I'm sending blessings your way

      • Phil Shiffley Phil Shiffley

        It's not just you, Ontological.

        Your family might believe they are helping you to move forward by not bringing it up. When I had cancer people would ask how I was doing but no one wanted to take me to do fun things. I was in moderate pain. I wasn't dead. The isolation doesn't help me or my young children. I think they didn't want to hear what might not be good news or see me looking a bit rough around the edges. Once when I went to pick up my kids at school, someone asked me why I looked in a bad mood. They were one of my friends but I had to remind them the cringing they saw was my pain as I tried to stand for 20 minutes in line. They changed the subject after that.

        Some cancers have highly networked support but other forms still force its sufferers in to the background. If you're still around to read this, I think you should stay here where people care about you and support what you're saying.

        Also for anyone else dealing with the isolation of cancer, please consider getting in touch w/Imerman's Angels, a global cancer support organization based in Chicago. They will pair you with an angel and will help you chose someone who may be of similar background, race, primary language, religion if desired so that the trust and bond is formed. My angel answered questions my surgeon just didn't have time for and gave me hope. That reminds me I should say hello to my angel. She was a true godsend during a rough time.

  • Nick

    Japan became a mighty industrial giant on the back of nuclear energy.

    The shell of the tortoise has shattered.

    The documents are shredded.


    Their ionize is ours, yours, and mine.

    Simple humans cannot grasp, at all, what has happened, is happening, will happen, for the rest of time.

    When you saturate a fission pile with salt water, toxic products beyond comprehension ensue, permeating the biosphere aqueously and atmospherically, and biologically.

    The chemistry is not debatable.

    The intelligence and motivation of the humans is.

  • rogerthat

    Don't go, ontological, we need you. I visit this site to read you and a handful of others. You shed light in dark corners, and there are too few who do.