“I think without a question there has been structural damage to the plant” in Virginia: Report (VIDEO)

Published: August 26th, 2011 at 5:31 am ET
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Interview with nuclear energy expert Paul Gunter, Big Picture, August 25, 2011:

At 2:45 in (Transcript Summary)

Paul Gunter, Beyond Nuclear: [...] I think without a question there has been structural damage to the plant. We’re most concerned about buried pipe that carries radioactive water underneath the plant [...] that could very well have ruptured, broken and is leaking into groundwater [...] This plant was 4 miles away from epicenter so I would say without question there would be damage to pipes, concrete retaining walls, things like that. [...] 

httpv://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRs5RKXoZ6I

h/t Anonymous tips

Published: August 26th, 2011 at 5:31 am ET
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29 comments to “I think without a question there has been structural damage to the plant” in Virginia: Report (VIDEO)

  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    Russia Today again.
    I think what the guy says seems comprehensible. I’d love to see a drawing / plan of the reactor building to know where exactly those pipes are he’s talking about.


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  • Nigwil

    B&B
    Something to start with…
    http://www.dom.com/about/stations/nuclear/north-anna/index.jsp
    http://www.mnes-us.com/images/images/USAPWR_detail.pdf

    http://www.mhi.co.jp/atom/hq/atome_e/apwr/index.html
    I note the Mitsubushi Industries page promotes the advantage of the plant type as:
    ” *Adopted high-performance reactor core, enabling MOX and long cycle operation.”

    Enabling MOX. Nice. Cover your lettuces!


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  • shaktasna999

    Wow Meow131 you were having a moment. I do understand…trust me I do…but “faggot”? That was your choice of insult?

    How very Freudian(or high school student) of you.

    Work stoppage Japan. You need a full work stoppage to get the world’s attention.


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  • alasanon

    Good news for anyone out there:
    I got The Report from the State in Va, where they tested the ambient air and water at North Anna on teh 23rd, 24th,25th. It was not alarming. The tritium in the water was actually much LOWER than it showed for last year!

    I can’t guarantee anything for the Hurricane, but at least they are already operating on emergency mode here since Tuesday’s earthquake in VA.
    The State, not just the NRC, is staying on Dominion’s case with sensitive equipment.

    Hopefully, this will be encouraging re: North Anna. I even had my local tap water here checked–NO tritium, just natural levels of anything else, no radioiodines. The ambient air levels were 20-70 CPM yesterday afternoon within the “exclusion zone.” And the Jet Stream is not over us with all the rain to come… Praise God!


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    • jdotg

      Funny you say banana, check out the BED. Banana equivalent dose. I will be sticking nothing in these ears, although it may stop the cries.


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      • jdotg

        Opps lol that was for dave. Sorry

        But i find that good news also, i think if a pipe was ruptured underneath the plant, a serious change in the flow of water would occur and the plants instrumentation would correspond to reflect this. Thus showing the operator there is a major issue.


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    • alasanon

      When I refer to water–that’s the discharge water into Lake Anna from North Anna nuclear plant…even before it disperses.

      It had tritium this week. The state uses a $70K machine to test that isotope from nuke plants. But, it was far lower (about 20X) lower than permitted maximum standards. I don’t think that would indicate a leak, at least not a big one! And it was about half of what the levels were last year, for perspective.

      I’m not trying to be an apologist or say I condone having this threat near a residential area…most people hate the thing. I just wanted to set forth some recent measurements they made on site…

      I hope they keep reinforcing the plant. But, it really is luck or grace at work with this.


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  • alasanon

    …sorry for spelling–have to get more supplies for Irene.


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  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    Report button is back. Makes me think of something.


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  • Sickputer

    >Makes me think of something.

    Like pig wrestling? That ship has sailed for me…I could care less about those vagaries of list life. The oinkers will get bored and move on when nobody will talk with them except for their multiple personalities.

    There comes a time in every list where new posters will post, but original posters will not read nor respond except to other original posters. Snobbish? Well that brings me back to the point I brought up about why more famous intellectuals will never post under their real names or participate at all because of the signal-to-noise ratio.

    It’s getting off the Fujita scale here. I am going to focus…still have time for a joke or two, but its past time for some research offlist about things of importance. And maybe a few more ZZZsss. Not been enough of those lately between juggling work and home life.

    I had quite a big article started about INL and ATR NSUF so I am going to do some more on it and see what additional factoids I can unearth. Seems like we have another Los Alamos wildfire situation brewing and secrets are getting exposed that they wish had been left alone. Who knew for example they had become the black ops successor to the scorned Yucca Flats? Interesting scenarios about how that stuff was transported, but they would probably expunge me if I did find out.

    cheers


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  • NRC Colluded To Cover Up Fault Under North Anna Reactors

    Aug 25, 2011
    Earlier this week the North Anna nuclear plant lost offsite power and an emergency generator when a 5.8 earthquake hit the region. Our research team has uncovered the disturbing past of North Anna that creates a potential danger to the region even today.

    North Anna is 70 miles (112 km) from the US capitol, Washington DC. The North Anna nuclear plant also sits directly on top of a fault line. The nuclear plant includes a man made dam and a 13,000 acre lake to provide cooling water to …
    http://houseoffoust.com/group/?p=2360


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  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    m3ow131, before you call Paul Gunter a “crappy Russian nuke scientist”, better check where the organisation he works for is located:
    http://www.beyondnuclear.org/contact/

    I find it interesting that those people get no room to speak in the US MSM (I might be wrong, but I haven’t seen many so far).


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  • Steven Steven

    I thought he (the ‘low level cheap nuclear scientist’) was moderate in his opinions and appeared reasonably well informed. It strikes me that anyone who has woken up to the fact that the nuclear industry is slowly (perhaps now more rapidly) poisoning our children and destroying any chance of our genes moving on through subsequent generations in good condition, has the right to drop social etiquette and just tell it like it is, yet what we see here repeatedly is well mannered responses to the outrageous pro-nuclear insults from those such as yourself…(“stupid interviews from shitty people”).

    What is being taken from us has value beyond measure; those who are taking it, and those who support them, deserve nothing more than our contempt, and perhaps even pity. To think that after so many thousands of years of evolution and civilisation, we still produce such unevolved and uncivil behaviour.

    You WILL reap what you sow. Remember this when the time is upon you.


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  • After your eloquent denunciation of Russia Today, you might try FOX News m3ow131 – you know – the Weapon of Mass Disinformation – run by phone hackers.

    We don’t learn from our mistakes, we hide them, and build more nuke plants. Einstein, a nuclear physicist, who never appeared on Russia Today knew this.

    I had no idea whatsoever that the N Anna plant was possibly damaged – this took me by surprise, so your statement that any fool can figure this out is not true.

    The incidence of HFS (Human Faggot Syndrome) is due to increase – due to nuclear power. Radiation damage is causing sperm counts to decline worldwide in addition to feminization of males and, get this m3o131 – small penis size.

    Keep in mind m3ow131 there is another effect of radiation damage worth considering – one you should look out for, or at least be aware of – decreased intelligence.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20338021

    Radiation from the Chernobyl nuclear power plant meltdown greatly affected several Norwegian counties. The cognitive consequences of in utero exposure to radiation from the Chernobyl accident have been intensely debated. This study examines the cognitive outcomes for those Norwegians who were exposed as fetuses to the fallout from Chernobyl. The participants, 84 adolescents who were exposed in utero to radiation from the most contaminated areas in Norway and 94 adolescents from areas not contaminated by the radiation, were tested on verbal and nonverbal IQ. Two data analyses were conducted. First, using a control-group design, the IQ scores of exposed and unexposed adolescents were compared. Second, in a timing-of-exposure design, those exposed during the most sensitive period were contrasted with those exposed later in gestation. Adolescents exposed to low-dose ionizing radiation in utero scored significantly lower in full-scale IQ than unexposed adolescents. The difference was restricted to verbal IQ and was not evident for nonverbal IQ. The effect was not observed in exposed adolescents who had passed the most sensitive gestational period prior to the accident and thus were exposed to the radiation from Chernobyl exclusively after gestational week 16. These participants performed as well as the controls. Although the results should be interpreted cautiously due to the study’s nonrandomized design, the data add new and important support to the hypothesis that the Chernobyl accident may have had a subtle effect on the cognitive functioning of those exposed to low-dose ionizing radiation in utero during the most sensitive gestational period.

    Nuclear power plants are, next to nuclear warheads themselves, the most dangerous devices that man has ever created. Their construction and proliferation is the most irresponsible, in fact the most criminal act ever to have taken place on this planet

    - Patrick Moore [Greenpeace], Assault on Future Generations, 1976


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  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    Quite a negative attitude I see here


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  • WorseThanChernobyl

    Shoot, there is no report button anymore. I don’t think abusive language has any place at this site.


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  • ocifferdave ocifferdave

    Chairman m3ow131,

    Spoken like a true nuke shill. Nuke shill’s like to control freedom of speech, especially anti-nuke media/organizations/people. Go stick a banana in your ear:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s18WYRVz_4w


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  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    I wonder why a “well known and nuclear scientist” can’t be anti-nuke?
    And, the “mistakes” to learn from in the nuclear world are way too big for us to handle. After the first “mistake” (aka meltdown) the world should’ve understood that these techniques don’t belong into the hands of humans.

    But instead, the governments set safety limits which suit the industry, not the people.
    And please don’t care about my mindset. It’s fine. I’m anti-nuke with all my heart and far from jumping from a bridge.


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  • jdotg

    Its rather sad to see people resorting to name calling, the state of this website is getting depressing, when people drag my name into this comment. I feel compelled to post.

    Its ridiculous that if somebody has pro nuclear or just simply doesn’t think they are as horrible as anti-nuclear people say, they are pretty much thrown under the bus. You people attack from all sides because our views differ, sorry but maybe one day “ill wake up” but that day isnt here yet. I think i showed it very evident yesterday and the day before, there is plenty of info for both sides of the this argument. Although i think some of his comments were out of line. Its his opinion, my position a guy that works for an anti nuke company, and would say there is damage at a plant. Compared to a pro nuke scientists, saying there isnt.

    And BB these mistakes have happened, and because of it safety has increased, he makes a good point. We learned several things and most definitely, our safety has benefited from it. Live and Learn. Yes the consequences are rather large, but what are you doing to stop it other then posting your view on a forum? Furthermore, why cant anybody be pro nuclear, if is there choice after all? Why cant a “well known and nuclear scientist” be pro nuclear?

    Most government limits contrary to your belief enacted are for the people, like the 200 millirems that nuclear workers are allowed to be exposed to. Are some policy’s lax? Yes. Do some of these policy’s need to be reviewed? Absolutely. Do these plants need to be constantly inspected to maintain safety? Yes. This doesn’t happen. Does it make me sad? lol yes i love our planet just as much as the next guy, and would like for us to be able to stick around.

    I am just simply am not convinced that these events will lead to the end of the world. There are simply to many other hazards in our world that could be labled just as dangerous, if not more. If that does happen, someway, somehow, we are all up shits creek anyways. Personally i feel its just better to cope with it, accept it, then to get on the internet and whine.


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  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    Agreed!!
    Thoses guys are here to distract us from the topic….which is possible underground damage of a nuke plant.


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  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    I know who you are. You’re jdotg’s little brother.


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  • WorseThanChernobyl

    Remember m3ow131, when you point at someone there are 3 fingers pointing back at you! lol


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  • alasanon

    Keep in mind that those of us living extremely close to this are getting irritable. Va has been declared in a state of emergency–much of the coast has been evacuated. A real pain! Many people here are just resigned to replace their carpet and mop up for the next week in the dark, without A/C, in 90 degree weather. Our food? The effect is foreboding and it doesn’t help to have it ALL in one week. An Earthquake, nuke emergency, and Hurricane now all in ONE WEEK?? errrrrrrr.


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  • JonahW JonahW

    An Earthquake, nuke emergency, and Hurricane now all in ONE WEEK

    If you’ll forgive sardonic humor — compared to an earthquake, nuke emergency, and tsunami in one day! The earth is rejecting us.


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