Radiation Biologist: Tree leaves were gigantic after Chernobyl — “Witch’s Broom” effect (VIDEO)

Published: January 2nd, 2012 at 10:44 am ET
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Title: CHERNOBYL to FUKUSHIMA – Part 3 – A Radiation Biologist’s Story
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Date: Jun 30, 2011
Description: In the third of five parts of a seminar held at San Francisco State University – April 8, 2011, radiation biologist Natalia Manzurova tells of her experience as a Chernobyl ‘clean up liquidator’ – translated by psychologist Tatiana Mukhamedyarova.

Transcript Summary

  • What happened to the plants?
  • The pine trees, evergreen trees… the fact of witch’s broom, from one bud you can see a lot of shooting like a broom
  • The leaves were gigantic
  • The seeds and the leaves were very big

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Published: January 2nd, 2012 at 10:44 am ET
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72 comments to Radiation Biologist: Tree leaves were gigantic after Chernobyl — “Witch’s Broom” effect (VIDEO)

  • We had some gigantism in the garden this year, yes. Leaves on zucchini for example more than a third larger than normal (huge) size. Sunflowers were over twelve feet tall, with mis-shapen flower heads. I tested the leaves of both, however, and neither showed the jump versus background in mcSv the way the apples did. Inconclusive?


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    • James Tekton James Tekton

      Great report Ris,

      Did you post that data on the anomalies thread?

      It is good to know that there are so many new folks checking and recording data. We all should be getting ready to deal with this years growing season and watching vigilantly for any and all new data related to this kind of mutation activity.

      Great works getting greater!


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  • arclight arclight

    you will see by this post how the uk universties are SO excited about the research and funding possibilities, they dont want to have to go through the prossess of having to use “other peoples data (ie non IAEA)

    Wildlife threatened by Fukushima radiation
    Submitted by stuti kalra on Wed, 06/01/2011
    “The reported values are not written in stone but they’re definitely plausible,” says Nick Beresford, a radioecologist at the Centre for Ecology & Hydrology in Lancaster, UK. “But even though it’s preliminary, this is a very useful ecological assessment.”

    ‘Good’ timing

    Many land species, says Hinton, may get off relatively lightly because the accident happened early in the flowering season. Had it occurred in mid-spring, the harm would probably have been much more severe, especially for plants.

    Radiation effects on egg hatching and the survival of newborn mammals still need to be surveyed, he cautions.

    For all the problems it has caused, the Fukushima accident could help scientists to gain a better understanding of the effects of nuclear radiation on wildlife and the environment…….”

    “…..Radioecologists regret that the few ecological studies done after the Chernobyl reactor meltdown 25 years ago missed out on many research opportunities and hope that the Fukushima area will become the natural observatory site that Chernobyl has not, owing mainly to political circumstances. The contaminated zone should ideally be thoroughly surveyed at least twice a year, says Hinton.

    Amid more pressing priorities, the Japanese government is preparing an environmental monitoring programme that involves around 300 experts from across the country.

    “They have all the expertise, no doubt,” says Beresford, “and the sooner the work starts the more useful it will be.” “

    http://www.biotecnika.org/blog/stuti-kalra/wildlife-threatened-fukushima-radiation

    and remember geraldine thomas from imperial college tissue bank…said she would destroy the samples…


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    • HoTaters

      http://www.biotecnika.org/blog/stuti-kalra/wildlife-threatened-fukushima-radiation

      and remember geraldine thomas from imperial college tissue bank…said she would destroy the samples…

      WHY would Geraldine Thomas destroy the tissue samples?


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      • arclight arclight

        imperial college looking for funding .. sends geraldine thomas to the fukushima symposium in september.. she is recorded as sayiny that the limited samples they used from chernobyl were satisfactory even though they had been frozen for twenty years before she got her hands on them.. later in her speech she makes the strange statement that the statistics can be saved but the tissue samples will be destroyed… a little message for japan nuke money there i think!! reassuring that when technology improoves that no more information will get out passed that which is passed by imperial college and their ICRP friends!!

        thomas wakefords slot is worth a watch too! pandering to the pro nuke audience… questions steered away from complicated issues about dose measuring accuracy.. stuff like that!


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  • This matches with the other story on tanuki attacks in Northern Japan. (Radiation drives them crazy). Also, gives us another ‘radiation detector’. Watch your pets.

    She describes a hog? that attacked the biologist’s car with such force that it almost tipped over the car.

    STRANGE: Former editor of Japan Times Weekly concerned about mutated raccoon dogs attacking humans — “These are the animals I’m really worried about” after Fukushima (VIDEO)
    http://enenews.com/strange-mutated-vampire-dogs-attacking-humans-a-concern-for-former-editor-of-japan-times-weekly-who-has-house-in-mountains-these-are-the-animals-im-really-worried-about-audio


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    @risabee. My palms and ginger plant…put out gigantic shoots in late spring..i should have done photos…but i threw them out…


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  • arclight arclight

    link jebus looked up!

    Here’s one from 1958 on The Genetic Effects of Radiation

    http://www.unscear.org/docs/reports/1958,%2013th%20session%20%28Suppl.%20No.17%29/1958final-4_unscear.pdf

    and this

    Somatic effects of Radiation from 1962

    http://www.unscear.org/docs/reports/1962,%2017th%20session%20%28Suppl.%20No.16%29/1962final-4_unscear.pdf

    Effects OF Ionizing Radiation on the Nervous System from 1969

    http://www.unscear.org/docs/reports/1969,%2024th%20session%20%28Suppl.%20No.13%29/1969final-2_unscear.pdf

    and this describibg a link to aggression and other types of mental illness

    “Developmental effects such as reduced post-natal body weight, impaired
    motor activity, morphological changes in the brain, reduced head size, and retarded odontogenesis and
    palatal closure have been reported in rats that had been exposed to radioactive cesium sources (137Cs)
    in utero via whole-body external exposure of dams; effects were of largest magnitude when exposure
    occurred around gestational day 15. Reported developmental effects in similarly-exposed mice included
    significantly decreased brain weight and increased aggressive behavior.”

    http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/tp157-c2.pdf

    so many dead links to psychology and radiation.. but theres some left for now// download time kiddies!! especially this topic!!


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    • Bobby1

      Stable (nonradioactive) cesium also causes nervous system effects, not just Cs-137. It also causes long QT syndrome. The reason this is important is because there is probably more than 100 times as much stable cesium in the environment than radioactive cesium, due to the decay of Xenon-133, which was released in phenomenal amounts.

      “Neurological Effects. Excess exposure to stable cesium appears to result in central nervous system effects. A man who voluntarily ingested cesium chloride daily for 36 days reported neurological signs that included feelings of euphoria, heightened sense perception, and tingling sensations within 15 minutes of dosing, in the absence of apparent adverse mental or motor skills. In animal studies, administration of cesium chloride has been reported to trigger stimulant and depressant central nervous system responses. “


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      • arclight arclight

        i read on a thyroid site somewhere that cesium takes a long time to clear the system after ingesting.. if you are accumulating this stuff it will build up over time!!


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      • HoTaters

        What is QT syndrome? Please explain.


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        • Bobby1

          The long QT syndrome (LQTS) is a rare inborn heart condition in which delayed repolarization of the heart following a heartbeat increases the risk of episodes of torsade de pointes (TDP, a form of irregular heartbeat that originates from the ventricles). These episodes may lead to palpitations, fainting and sudden death due to ventricular fibrillation. Episodes may be provoked by various stimuli, depending on the subtype of the condition.[1]
          The condition is so named because of the appearances of the electrocardiogram (ECG/EKG), on which there is prolongation of the QT interval. In some individuals the QT prolongation occurs only after the administration of certain medications.[1]…

          Drug induced LQT is usually a result of treatment by anti-arrhythmic drugs such as amiodarone and sotalol or a number of other drugs that have been reported to cause this problem (e.g. cisapride). Some anti-psychotic drugs, such as haloperidol and ziprasidone, have a prolonged QT interval as a rare side-effect. Genetic mutations may make one more susceptible to drug-induced LQT.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_qt_syndrome


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          • HoTaters

            Oh, that’s part of the QT heart rhyrhm. One of the things measured by an EKG. Abnormalities can be very serious. Thank you!

            If I remember correctly, some antibiotics can also affect the QT rhythm. It’s in the warnings you get along with the product information.


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      • HoTaters

        Disgusting. There is actually someone there at HuffPost calling himself/herself “Atoms4Peace1.” Gag me with an aircraft carrier!


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        • HoTaters

          Whoopie, you go! Glad you’re posting lots of links. My kudos to you and everyone else delivering a counterpunch to the “Atoms for Peace” nonsense. They can say the studies people post of the dangers of nuclear energy are wrong, but unless they provide solid evidence or say why they think studies are flawed, their arguments don’t carry much weight (unless one is gullible). Unfortunately, a lot of people are gullible these days.


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  • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

    I’m particularly happy to see the room filled with interested people of all ages – all of those will be helping to turn the nuclear tide!
    Though some of them might be well categorized as “eco-terrorists” by the FBI, lol
    Great that the SFSU organised these lectures and made them public. Good post!


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    • Might be worth mentioning, the nazis also labelled anyone who opposed them as “terrorists”.

      In time, there will be nobody left to label anything.

      Just silence, and a long one.


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      • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

        Hi Pu, I heard this while watching a documentary about “Earth First” activists occupying Redwood forests in California.
        After applying pepperspray into chained-on protesters eyes with Q-tips a FBI person said thar “eco-terrorists” are considered the second-biggest threat to the US after Al Quaida.

        *jaw dropped


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        • HoTaters

          I lived up near the city where that occurred, when that happened. It was pretty amazing when it happened. The level of “police brutality” has escalated astronomically since then. Many people have been tasered to death, ostensibly for standing up for their Constitutionally guaranteed freedoms. Or for wanting their Miranda rights when arrested, etc. When the police become militarized, this is what you get.


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  • better not use the T-Word…
    america can kill anything anywhere anytime that is labelled terrorist.

    and they will have a video


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  • HoTaters

    Hi all,

    There is a fruit tree with several pluot and plum branches on it. This year, the end of every branch had a witch’s broom on it. I have pruned these off twice, and each time the growths come back. It is only visible at the end of the branches. Our neighbor has a Chinese grapefruit tree. This year the fruits are twice as large as last year. Have noticed some of the local lemons have odd growths on them like fingers. So our plants have been affected here. Am reminded of James Tekton’s posts/video of mutated sunflowers, etc. Will try to figure out how to post some of these things. along with rad levels, once the Gieger counter arrives …. Am in CA Central Valley, near Suisun Bay.


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    • HoTaters

      The fruit tree is in my back yard. Sorry, I’m not fully awake yet.


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    • ion jean ion jean

      Just ate the largest pomegranate of my life from California! A reminder to severly limit my intake of West Coast foodstuffs, but they don’t grow here, and I can’t resist them!

      I found my first doubleheaded blackeyed susan this summer in NEngland, and observed a ridiculous pollen release this spring, and a black circle spot mold on the maple leaves almost everywhere I turned,,,was this all coincidence I keep asking myself, because I am in an area with very light fallout compared to the rest of the states, yet right in that “sweet spot” of northern latitude where fallout sprinkles down like cinnamon sugar…which is why traditionally the northern states got the bulk of global fallout in the US through every nuclear event.


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      • HoTaters

        Thanks for mentioning the black spots. We had them on the leaves of the plants in our garden, too. CA, inland from SF, near the entrance to the Central Valley.


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      • alexa

        In Toronto I also noticed blackspots on most maple leaves this fall. Bread&Butter was the first one to notice the black spots in Toronto.


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        • HardLeft

          Hey, guys, just a few quick notes:

          This spring, I think in late April or mid May, here in Los Angeles, we had lemons the size of grapefruits. Only time it’s ever happened in the 14 years we have lived here.

          At my friends’ campsite in Westchester New York, where we have been camping since about 1969, we saw brown spots on maple leaves that none of us remembered seeing before. I suspect this may be acid rain, or some other environmental effect… the whole ecosystem there changed radically about four years ago, favoring vines and ivy and undergrowth, as larger trees succumbed to blight (and an F2 tornado in 2006, which the region never recovered from:

          http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/14/nyregion/14storm.html?ex=1153022400&en=6f91606b06e86635&ei=5087

          But the lemons… likely giganticism from radiation, courtesy of Fuku.

          –HL


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    • James Tekton James Tekton

      You Rock HT!

      Yes, as I said above, we need to be ready to watch carefully what happens as this growing season comes. We will have more to say about last years reports and conclusions on the mutations thread later.

      Keep on keeping on!


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  • I would say that the pro-nuke industry is a terrorist organization against the human species. An insurgency.

    As such consider skimming this playbook from the US military on how to prepare a counter insurgency plan. 12 MB, very interesting reading.

    http://www.box.com/s/61bryclbh14bihx0cnl2


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    • Tumrgrwer Tumrgrwer

      I agree with you, an insurgency they have undertaken against the people of the world. Wouldn’t it be nice to label the Nuclear industry as a Terrorist Oranization. Bring out the jdam…Curium


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      • I think the reason why there is no agreed upon definition of terrorism is that certain countries, which I won’t list, fall into the definition. Very embarassing, so best to leave it nebulous or undefined.

        Voicing strong opinions about a global radiological disaster don’t seem to fall into the definition, so it looks like we’re safe for now.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_terrorism
        There is neither an academic nor an international legal consensus regarding the definition of the term “terrorism”.[1][2] Various legal systems and government agencies use different definitions of “terrorism”. Moreover, the international community has been slow to formulate a universally agreed upon, legally binding definition of this crime. These difficulties arise from the fact that the term “terrorism” is politically and emotionally charged.[3]

        “the calculated use of violence or threat of violence to attain goals that are political, religious, or ideological in nature…through intimidation, coercion, or instilling fear.”
        [U.S. Army Manual]
        http://www.chomsky.info/articles/200205–02.htm


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        • HoTaters

          Pu239, have you read the Executive Orders Clinton signed while president? You might change your opinion on your 2nd paragraph after doing so. Esp. see the, “any reason deemed important to national security” or however that’s worded.

          If you look at all recent legislation in the light of Exec. Orders (esp. since 1984), the trend of the legal infrastructure being put in place comes into sharp focus.


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  • Whoopie Whoopie

    Energy agency boss told subordinate to COVER UP estimated costs to dump nuclear fuel IN 2004!
    http://mdn.mainichi.jp/mdnnews/news/20120102p2a00m0na014000c.html


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  • Dogleg Dogleg

    My neighbor grew this (Boise,Id). He had several that were deformed.I did not garden this year for the obvious reasons.


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  • DukeNukem4ever DukeNukem4ever

    I went shopping (South Korea) today (2012, Jan 2nd) and found a nice sample of seaweed (kelp) from the east coast of Korea for testing purposes:

    http://vimeo.com/34466125

    0.76 uSv/hr … nice … regular background rads in my kitchen are 0.2-0.3 … so this is quite a bit hotter …

    this means that the radiation infested water has definitely reached the shores of South Korea.

    Korean people love to eat seaweed and this type of kelp is traditionally especially given to pregnant women, so I think that we will start seeing some cases of rad sickness here soon enough as well.

    I hope you guys can help me spread this info.

    Thank you all, and please keep up your excellent reporting guys… the world needs to know this.

    (sorry for the double post on the jim carey thread … but I decided that not too many people would see it there)


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    • Bobby1

      Yikes. I have a package and a jar of Korean seaweed in my fridge, but I haven’t opened them yet, though.


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    • James Tekton James Tekton

      Hello again Dn4e,

      That was great video!

      Welcome to the Inspector crew!

      May we suggest you open a u-tube account. Not that vimeo is not a good channel, there are just more of us at u-tube and this makes it easier to communicate and share.


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  • Tumrgrwer Tumrgrwer

    Japan’s population decreasing at fastest postwar rate

    TOKYO (Kyodo) — Japan’s population decreased in 2011 at the fastest pace in the postwar era with the decline, calculated by deducting the number of deaths from that of births, coming to an estimated 204,000, health ministry estimates showed Saturday.

    The decrease was over 1.5 times higher than the revised figure of about 125,000 the year before and was the biggest since comparable data became available in 1947, the survey said. It was the fifth straight annual decline since 2007.

    The estimated number of newborn babies in 2011 fell to a record-low 1,057,000, down by 14,000, while that of people who died in 2011 hit a record-high 1,261,000, up by 64,000, according to the survey by the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare.

    Of the total number of deaths, 358,000 were attributed to cancer, 198,000 to heart disease and 126,000 to strokes.

    An official of the ministry predicted that Japan’s population will keep decreasing at a faster pace as the number of deaths will continue to rise given the rapid aging of society, while the size of the younger generation will shrink.

    (Mainichi Japan) January 1, 2012


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  • Tumrgrwer Tumrgrwer

    No more Miso soup??? I am pissed. To help mitigate the effects of RADIATION…

    Let us be kind, one to another, for we are each of us together in our pain!


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  • StillJill StillJill

    Yes,…even our supplements are now tainted. Unless you are rich and have a butt-load of storage space,…you’re eating cesiYUMMMmmm


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    • oscar419

      I am lucky, I have indoor grow space and have started using it in a more diversified fashion. Lettuce, peppers, spices and a couple other things are already going. All my air is also scrubbed with a charcoal carbon filter and HEPA filter prior to entering said garden of Eden… And YES I do grow marijuana as medical user and yes I am doing it legally as a patient…that is usually the first thing people ask….


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  • oscar419

    Good stuff although this has been around for a while however I am not sure if it was multiple parts at the time, I do remember this guy introducing them and the russian ladies


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  • oscar419

    5:59….”a billion dollar hole”
    Sounds like my X wife….
    sorry I could not resist


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  • Tumrgrwer Tumrgrwer

    So let me get this right. We have spent 9 trillion dollars killing 600 million people. Is that what this Russian lady is saying?

    Let us be kind, one to another, for we are each of us together in our pain!


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  • StillJill StillJill

    That is funny Oscar,….and sometimes quite true!

    I have a greenhouse started,….but it’s slow going being sick.
    Glad your ‘girls’ are growing for you-we need our ‘meds’, more now than ever, eh?


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  • midwestern midwestern

    http://www.livingcosmos.com/k-t.htm#VITAL

    “…The Late Cretaceous was the last for the dinosaur, and its close was the most catastrophic of any period in the history of life on Earth. More than one half of all the species on Earth became extinct. In some places 75% to 90% of the life forms vanished from the scene never to be seen again in the fossil record…”

    This is an excerpt from the book, “The Vital Vastness”, which takes a hypothetical stab at how ionizing radiation may have contributed to the catastrophic changes during the late cretaceous period.


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  • OhioBoy

    Back in April/May here in Northeast OH, we had huge leaves on dandelion plants
    With unusually long stems.Probably Fukushima. Thank You GE. As your advertising
    Jingle from a few years ago says, GE….We bring good things to life……and death!


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  • DukeNukem4ever DukeNukem4ever

    Thank you for the welcome James Tekton, I only wish it were under different circumstances:-(

    I will try to open a youtube channel again … but I had issues with doing so last time hence the vimeo …

    I think it is crucial now to inspect (pun intended) ever item we buy and publicize the findings since this might actually get corporations involved if they hear their customers telling them that they will stop buying their radioactive goods … that is the only thing that they pay attention to, their bottom line, as long as people consume their products nobody cares about the contamination, but as soon as people stop buying then their capitalist minds go into overdrive … and eventually if there are enough company bottom lines affected this might cause a watershed moment for the world.


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