Radiation Expert: Fukushima plant “out of control” — Nuclear fuel “is now in the ground… no way they can get at it” — “Will just wash uranium out to sea” — Pollution of Pacific Ocean to continue more or less forever (AUDIO & VIDEO)

Published: January 12th, 2014 at 10:32 am ET
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Jan. 6, 2014 interview with Professor Chris Busby, Scientific Secretary of the European Committee on Radiation Risk and member of UK Department of Health Committee Examining Radiation Risk for Internal Emitters (CERRIE), Infowars (at 20:00 in): “The material in those reactors is now in the ground somewhere, and there’s no way they can get at it. The more water they pump in there, and the continuous water that comes down into the groundwater there, will just wash the uranium out into the sea — and continue to pollute the Pacific Ocean, more or less forever.”  >> Watch the interview here

Jan. 12, 2014 interview with Professor Busby, Scientific Secretary of the European Committee on Radiation Risk and member of UK Department of Health Committee Examining Radiation Risk for Internal Emitters (CERRIE), VoR (at 2:30 in): “I don’t think there’s much more [Tepco] can do, to be honest. I think the thing is out of control. I can’t see what they can do. Basically, what we have here — in my opinion, and others too — is that the core material from the reactors is outside of the containment and in the ground. So the groundwater is picking up this radioactivity and bringing it onto the surface […] until they actually address the basic problem of this stuff being outside the containment, then there’s not much they can do […] for the stuff that is outside the tanks in the ground, I’m not sure I see any way in which they can do it.”  >>  Full interview broadcast available here

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388 comments to Radiation Expert: Fukushima plant “out of control” — Nuclear fuel “is now in the ground… no way they can get at it” — “Will just wash uranium out to sea” — Pollution of Pacific Ocean to continue more or less forever (AUDIO & VIDEO)

  • FXofTruth

    Grab a box of popcorn and a set of 3D glasses because, we all have a front row seat to the biggest epic disaster film – EVER! We are ALL the stars in the movie and we all play leading roles!

    NEVER BEFORE has the stars of the movie…also been the audience!
    NEVER BEFORE has the stage and screen been the entire planet!
    NEVER BEFORE has acting World Leaders acted so unconcerned!
    NEVER BEFORE has the guaranteed elimination of vast amounts of wildlife and humans been see on such a massive scale!

    The Producers of this amazing disaster flick want to "Thank You" for your support of their incredible expensive production! Without your tax dollars being poured over it, none of this could have been possible!

    Stay tuned to the next sequel of this monumental disaster series!
    The next movie will show the pain and suffering of billions in technicolor! Think of the drama! The suspense! The hopelessness!
    This monumental film will be the final curtain call for everyone involved and awards will be given to everyone for their performances! Such realism of pain and suffering.
    Academy Award winning for sure!

    God will be present at the podium to give everyone that was involved in the creation of this epic production, their due!

  • shamwow shamwow

    How much do you make per hour to post this crap? Hope it pays.

  • shamwow shamwow

    This was a reply to scoref to my comment.

  • Wow. Surprised nobody not even MarkWW mentioned damming the underground water that flows underneath/though the melted cores. Wonder how the Standard Model plays out with a enriched recycled plutonium meltdown? Three count them three melted down out of containment reactors, still three years later being cooled by the original cooling system and recycled coolant, what hey are able to retrieve ie what doesnt escape to the Pacific is stored in cheap tanks . More then George Orwell, although didnt all that come true? Except poor George never envisioned Facebook…..
    Anyways, no end in sight to the media cooled event fukushima. Why not boycott any product made with nuclear generated electricity. Hondas?

    • Ontological Ontological

      I have suggested they could have used tunnel machines to divert ground water early on, but the point became, the question of why the hell wasn't it diverted in the first place?

  • The solution to the underground coriums is exactly the same as a good bra…..lift and separate

  • Socrates

    Requiem for a Dying Planet is great music for a Fukushima movie.

    If Fukushima is not "that bad" the powers that be will push the envelope further.

  • Fuku nota movie. Is reality. So sad…………………

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    " So the groundwater is picking up this radioactivity and bringing it onto the surface […] until they actually address the basic problem of this stuff being outside the containment, then there’s not much they can do […] for the stuff that is outside the tanks in the ground, I’m not sure I see any way in which they can do it.”

    Yes ..this..no alluding to 'hot fuel'..coolly lying about somewhere.

    The groundwater..in the area has been disturbed…due to earthquake activity…and on-going.

    5 continuous quakes offshore Chiba→JP Gov “New irregular diastrophism on-going offshore different from 311″
    1/12/2014

    http://fukushima-diary.com/2014/01/5-continuous-quakes-offshore-chiba%e2%86%92jp-gov-new-irregular-diastrophism-on-going-offshore-different-from-311/

  • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

    Busby has done some important testing with items shipped from Japan; I wondered if he has personally tested any of the beaches on the West Coast?

    Does anyone think by focusing only on Fukushima when there is TMI, Hanford, Rocky Flats and all the reactors/dump sites and spent fuel pools around the country/world that have/will or are currently leaking, we are doing ourselves/planet a disservice?

    Since this activism is starting to take hold, maybe there needs to be a broader focus on shutting down all these reactors and cleaning up all the waste. Not just one issue in Japan, but really have a broader focus to stop the nuclear madness.

    Just a thought

  • http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/neil-young-blasts-oilsands-expansion-launches-fundraising-tour-1.2493638

    Yeah, Newsblackout, many more, even non nuclear things going on.

    Is a fundamental problem of human society, ignoring Mother Nature. Walk away from the economy, as much as you can. Goodnight all.

  • Arizonan Arizonan

    Ho, thanks for this, and all your sane comments. Enenews has done its best from the early days to base our discussions on viable information. This sudden proliferation of misleading instant doomsday scenarios (esp turner radio problem last week Dec) is suspect. By the way, if any scientist here is interested in good independent research proving the multiple human health harms from long term exposure to internalized radionuclides, with excellent references, please download ECRr Report free at euradom.com. The European Committee on Radiation Risk has a much higher score on the "does the theoretical prediction match the actual data" scorecard than any of the other very pronuke folks, like IAEA, NRC, UNSCEAR, etc.

      • Jinglepots jinglepots

        Anne. May I ask if anyone has been watching the NETC radiation monitoring site? I keep scrolling over to Japan, and then enlarging the Fukushima Daichi area. One of the monitors is always around 140,000 nSv/h. Could you tell me, is this a serious measurement? I do not understand what nSv/h means (especialy as far as health risks are concerned.) Can you explain, please. Thank-you.

          • Jinglepots jinglepots

            Thank-you Dr. G.
            🙂

          • Jinglepots jinglepots

            Dr. G. I found your information very useful Thank-you for such a clear explanation and for the links.
            I have also been watching the high measurement at that particular site at Fukushima, and it does change perhaps once a day. I will start writing it down for my own interest. I was surprised that the conversion from nSv/hr to CPM equated into a very high CPM. 142,000 nSv/hr has been a common reading at the Daichi site. It was 144,000 a few days ago. For 142,000 nSv/hr to equal 17,040 CPM of Cesium 137 indicates a big problem. Thanks for the understanding on hot spots, too.
            I talk to people about Fukushima. I have seen a massive die-off of starfish where I live. Most folks in my age group do get it, but they are afraid. I share my hope with them. I know I am not allowed to talk about religion here, so I won't. I just want to say…I believe the earth will be spared and corrected. Thank-you for helping everyone understand the seriousness of what is going on.
            🙂

  • Sickputer

    Sure the plant radiation is out of control, but I'm not buying my coffin yet.

    Stay the course and save your own families with the best health measures you can afford. Not many of us can relocate to the Southern Hemisphere, but you can be aware, stay alert and watvh the Jetstream to help plan outdoor outings:

    http://squall.sfsu.edu/gif/jetstream_norhem_00.gif

    SP: So maybe I will clean up my yard another Monday. *;-)

    Joke: Old man holds up a sign at fish market 30 miles south of Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant: "Fish for Sale…sushi and filet of rockfish".

    Yakuza labor pool organizer asks the old man: "Hey, who's going to buy your shitty irradiated fish?"

    Old man: "Lots of folks…some buy it for their mothers-in-law, some for their bosses, and some for the trolls on their Twitter accounts."

  • Gelt

    All the elites, who've set themselves up to survive after all us
    "useless eaters" have been taken out, or succumbed to whatever manages to "get" us (pandemics, chemtrails, HAARP, Fukushima radiation, GMO's, etc.), are going to have some really fun times coming their way.

  • Daisy207

    IAEA evidently only has three labs – two in Austria and one oddly in Japan.

    http://www.iaea.org/Publications/Factsheets/English/safeguardslab.pdf

  • pjrsullivan

    How many can we only wonder, think that Hitachi-GE melt down is merely the culmination of a long ago well thought out plan, to wipe out the human race?

    They lost their nuclear missiles when they shot them at us. Now their weapon of mass destruction is nuclear waste. Is this poisoning of our environment not as sure of a way to wipe out the mass of the human race over the next few decades, as nuclear blast could do in a few hours?

    Why do we continue to allow them to issue our money? Must the people not do something to protect themselves? Must labor not STRIKE THEM OUT to gain control of the authority to issue our money so that we can hire the people needed to shut this nuclear genocide down?

    Is it not clear that indeed there are human creatures that espouse a philosophy which must ultimately destroy all that is good and decent? They have the authority to issue our money in their hands. Is it not appreciated that until we remove our purse from their hands they will continue to commit genocide against us? Must we not open our eyes and see that that is the exact plan here?

    http://bitchworld.weebly.com/ufo-prevent-nuclear-shots.html

  • artika rama

    PS I am on the different time zone so my day is your night(compared to US ) , thats why i usually am not able to respond to messages , besides i get lost between messages so if anyone doesnt get a response from me its not becasue i am being rude. 🙂
    Peace.

  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Repost..I don't want the pro-nukers on here to miss ..what I'm saying.

    The pro-nukers are on a full blown…"puff and fluff".
    They think ..they can win by 'definite proclamation'.
    And they think somehow..Fukushima should be removed from the variables ..because WHY?
    Because they say so..??
    It will be a sorry day in hell before that happens.
    No one is going to ..huff and fluff..deny.. water down or distort..the scientific process going on as we look for the problems Fukushima is causing to the environment.

    It isn't?
    I'M SAYING IT IS.
    To what degree..we don't know.
    Scientific analysis takes time.
    Time will be taken.

    My suggestion..to the pro-nukers..
    "Take a drive around the block…".

  • ftlt

    Seems Busby also has now thrown up his hands.. Seems like Arnie is about there too now.. I think, most posters on here had come to this conclusion a while ago ( like years now).. But then, we are not dealing with the public like them and maybe this is how Busby and Gundersen really have felt all along??

    1st blurb.. ""but frankly I think there’s nothing much they can do now — the genies out of the bottle. The material in those reactors is now in the ground somewhere, and there’s no way they can get at it""""

    2nd blurb ""“I don’t think there’s much more [Tepco] can do, to be honest…"""

    I guess, we all just wait now and see how bad FUFU really turns out to be… Ranging from just horrible to an E.L.E. event…

    Someone will have to make up a scale and post it on here.

    I'm almost certain, the "real true" anti nuclear folks on here will want to place it at the E.L.E. of things… And whoa be it unto those, who don't.. They will all be held to be pro nukers in sheep's clothing. Whose only reason for being here is to promote the nuclear industry.

    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

      I don't recall..Busby..having much positive to say about a solve from the very beginning.
      So..saying he is throwing up his hands now..might be a bit of an overstatement.
      Admission..as to actual conditions..though hard to hear..was music to sore ears around here…and a set forward.

      Yes..that's right…anywhere from horrible to ELE.
      But this world will not get out of this unscathed.

      • We Not They Finally

        Have found Busby to be an honest committed activist. I think his hesitation earlier on, was that he didn't yet see the means of rapid transmission over radioactivity across the through the thousands of miles of ocean to the West Coast of the U.S. I don't think it was denial (like he's said, he "lost a lot of colleagues looking into Chernobyl"), more like he himself was looking for a missing piece.

        He's come out more aggressively now that he realizes the HUGE amount of dead sea life at the bottom of the sea form all this, and factored in contamination up the FOOD CHAIN and through BIO-ACCUMULATION.

        Which is o.k. He's still a scientist. He wants to be on solid evidentiary grounds.

        • artika rama

          we not they finally I totally agree with you . I think people like arnie and busby are only trying to be careful NOT to jump to conclusions and they hesitate to say anything UNLESS THEY ARE SURE of it . They are afraid of saying something that could be proven wrong afterwards and they would loose all their credibility . They are scientists and they work in that scientific mindset , that means NOTHING IS TRUE UNTILL PROVEN, in a way , so they wait to get the facts before making a statement IMO .
          ANyway i dont want to believe that they are shills as well ,, cause if they are , then we might as well just give up ,,

        • ftlt

          We: I didn't attack Busby at all… But I have never heard him say, what he said above before (could have missed it)..

          Always have liked his stuff and courage..

          HoR: Never meant to say he was positive about the thing… Neither has Arnie been.. But, both of them called for more action early on.. I wonder, if they still believe that anything ever could have been done different to mitigate the outcome we now have..

          Japan is in ruins forever (in human terms)… And the rest of the world will be sickened for a forever at varying degrees depending on location..

          Still_____________ Worldwide

          millions of tons of highly reactive depleted uranium (with yet 60% of the U strength with even longer multi-billion year half-lifes)laying about unsecured and leaking

          ; 100s more FUFUs ready to fail (and they will); U-mines spewing effluent forever

          ; other nuclear products and by products in massive amounts

          ; 10,000s warhead weapons; millions of anti-armor munitions

          and they making more of all of the above all of the time —– to protect us and make our lives better HAHAHAHA.. We're screwed…

        • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

          I saw no hesitation early on.
          He is very succinct ..and I admire that.

          14.03.2011 Chris Busby talks about Fukushima on BBC News

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S2qgTrqR6A

          He says plutonium..he says it's everywhere.
          What more?

  • Nick

    Cold Shutdown.

    Decontamination.

    Decommission.

    Dismantle.

    Scrap.

    Placate.

    Obfuscate.

    Pull the wool over our collective eyes and ears.

    We will be at each other's throats before long.

    The great famine lurks.

    Get ready.

  • jump-ball jump-ball

    Hard to evaluate the self-promotion going on here, but Cornell bioengineering professor Michael King announces a cancer-killing protein named 'TRAIL' that induces apoptosis in metastasized cancer cells in mice, and maybe trolls…

    http://m.voanews.com/a/1827090.html

  • pkjn

    Millions at fatal risk as Fukushima radiation poisons Pacific
    12 January 2014 Voice of Russia

    The main risk will be to the people of Japan, and it’ll be people who live along the coastline of Eastern Japan who will be greatly at risk. It’s within one kilometer from the sea. Just in terms of cancer there’ll probably be about 400,000 to 800,000 extra cancers in Japan in the next 50 years as the consequence of this.

    It will be absolutely measurable. The nuclear industry says it cannot be measured over the background rate, but it will be certainly measurable. We’ve already seen some effects in infant mortality and thyroid cancer in Japan. So this is just going to get worse. We are going to see a major effect on the general health of the Japanese population in Eastern Japan. It’s going to be quite measurable. There’s going to be a decrease in the birth rate and an increase in the death rate.

    http://voiceofrussia.com/2014_01_12/Millions-at-fatal-risk-as-Fukushima-radiation-poisons-Pacific-9684/

    • That is a very conservative estimate…

      Chernobyl killed 1 million, up to today, and will continue killing for tens of thousands of years.

      Fukushima was orders of magnitude worse, 3 reactors, 3 spent fuel pools, one MOX fuel reactor blew out, and constant leaking into ocean daily since 3/11 of 400 tons a day, plus steaming underground coriums that have not stopped since 3/11 to now.

      Dream on, that number is just to get warmed up.

  • shamwow shamwow

    Not surprised by your income level but the Mr Blutarski reference is funny. I am still smiling. Love that movie.

  • Stop wasting time and space on the troll, you know he has no argument. Now his goal is to rattle people. All the benefit of the troll has been gleaned.

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