Published: May 3rd, 2011 at 9:31 am ET
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Data monitor failed at Japan’s nuclear plant, report says, DPA, May 3, 2011:
The accident response headquarters, formed jointly by the government and the plant’s operator Tokyo Electric Power Co, said Monday that roughly 5,000 estimates of how radioactive substances would disperse had been made since the beginning but they had not been made public, Kyodo said. The secrecy was to avoid “panic in the whole of society,” lawmaker Goshi Hosono, head of the secretariat of the ruling Democratic Party of Japan, was quoted by Kyodo as saying.
Published: May 3rd, 2011 at 9:31 am ET
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…to avoid “panic in the whole of society,”
And to allow those in the know to profit by it, selling TEPCO stock for instance. And securing supplies and a small flat in Montevideo.
Makes you wonder – just what levels did they think would panic a public. Certainly worse than Chernobyl or people would just think ‘ah, it’s not even as bad as Chernobyl.’ What levels would inspire panic in the WHOLE of society – not just the uneducated and easily stampeded. You can bet on this – the info they release will NOT be the whole truth.
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to avoid “panic in the whole of society,”
Avoiding panic, indeed. It seems that I’ve heard these words before with other apparent dire situations where the public was also purposefully left out of the communication loop. The failure to communicate potentiates panic rather than minimizing it.
With exposure to ionizing radiation, I’ve learned this, and this is all that every needs to remember:
There is a “no-threshold dose-response relationship between exposure to ionizing radiation and the development of cancer in humans.”
http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=11340&page=323
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This appears at the bottom of the page for that link:
“The committee concludes that the current scientific evidence is consistent with the hypothesis that there is a linear, no-threshold dose-response relationship between exposure to ionizing radiation and the development of cancer in humans.”
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I would encourage all posters to try their utmost to INCREASE the panic level, wherever they may be. Governments that try to REDUCE the panic are simply trying (and succeeding) to use a GOOD excuse to hide BAD news – and putting people unnecessarily in danger. Every single poster here, even the shills and trolls, at least want to know what the real levels are.
Some excerpts from:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1131108/posts
- just a hint of rebut to Monbiot’s rendition of the BEIR Report:
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The specialists urged Ukraine and the rest of the world not to allow Chernobyl to become a forgotten crisis – a term used first by the United Nations which hinted that funds could run out as interest in the disaster waned.
Evgeniya Stepanova, a specialist in radiation-linked illnesses, said children were becoming sufferers years after the explosion, which killed few people at the time.
The true casualty toll in the years since is a matter of intense controversy. Chernobyl has been blamed for thousands of deaths in Ukraine, Belarus, and Russia and for a huge increase in thyroid cancer.
”[Research] has shown genetic mutations in sufferers of Chernobyl, both adults and children. … Those children and adults are more likely to get cancer and pass on mutations to their children.”
Radiation is known to cause genetic mutation, and the rate of certain cancers goes up in areas exposed to nuclear fallout, scientists say.
Stepanova said it was time to turn the world’s attention to those who had no choice but to suffer the consequences and those who could unwittingly become the next victims of Chernobyl.
”We have not paid enough attention to those people who are suffering,” she said, almost shouting.
”Among all the problems caused by Chernobyl, the genetic [mutation] problem should come first. … It is a huge problem.”
The specialists urged Ukraine and the rest of the world not to allow Chernobyl to become a forgotten crisis – a term used first by the United Nations which hinted that funds could run out as interest in the disaster waned.
Evgeniya Stepanova, a specialist in radiation-linked illnesses, said children were becoming sufferers years after the explosion, which killed few people at the time.
The true casualty toll in the years since is a matter of intense controversy. Chernobyl has been blamed for thousands of deaths in Ukraine, Belarus, and Russia and for a huge increase in thyroid cancer.
”[Research] has shown genetic mutations in sufferers of Chernobyl, both adults and children. … Those children and adults are more likely to get cancer and pass on mutations to their children.”
Radiation is known to cause genetic mutation, and the rate of certain cancers goes up in areas exposed to nuclear fallout, scientists say.
Stepanova said it was time to turn the world’s attention to those who had no choice but to suffer the consequences and those who could unwittingly become the next victims of Chernobyl.
”We have not paid enough attention to those people who are suffering,” she said, almost shouting.
”Among all the problems caused by Chernobyl, the genetic [mutation] problem should come first. … It is a huge problem.”
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From works of Bierad Institut, Minsk :
- Recognize the apple pectin efficiency and usefulness real for the millions of contaminated victims, see the beneficial effect on their health from this natural adsorbent which accelerates the elimination of radionuclides from their organization, would admit the same timethat the contamination mass exists, it is indeed caused by fallout from the Chernobyl disaster and not by the stress of radiophobiaand it is necessary to distribute emergency food additive that at all, to curb the disaster.
Those who hinder the use of this treatment is simple, effective and cheap work objectively for the lobby. They take responsibility for criminal non-assistance to endangered persons.
(I’he heard the same about vit.B17 )
http://enfants-tchernobyl-belarus.org/doku.php?id=archives:articles_etb:2002:etb-26
and 2°
(can’t find the link, but the same site) : by N. I. Ryabokon and R. I. Goncharova:
The genetic defects accumulate !
Reasume: Their study analyzes long-term biological damage in natural populations of small mammal model (a kind od mouse) (Clethrionomys glareolus, Schreber), which was constantly exposed to low doses of ionizing radiation in 10 years (22 generations) after the disaster at Chernobyl.
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I have found a lot of ‘sanity’ from reading this piece. Many ‘speed bumps’ can be avoided, Yes?
I hope you find some peace as I did.
http://www.naturalnews.com/032258_economic_collapse_2012.html
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Knowing there is a F I R E in the theater and not yelling “F I R E” !
Much more guilty then fire for any deaths !
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“The Japanese government announced that altho there was no fire in the theater, global warming had produced marked heat in the building.”
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Does anyone know more about the utility & efficacy of these mineral products? thanks!!
http://newparadigmdigest.com/5706/additional-radiation-protection-from-boron-bentonite-clay-and-fulvic-minerals/
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That is good. Boron is a radioactivity squelcher. Selenium would be good too. Don’t go over 200mcg daily (including what you are eating in other things). That is why I went with 100mcg. I use the NOW brand in the orange wrapper and white plastic bottle.
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Boron
What is it?
How effective is it?
How does it work?
Are there safety concerns?
Are there interactions with medications?
Are there interactions with herbs and supplements? Are there interactions with foods?
What dose is used?
Other names
Methodology
References
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/natural/894.html
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In today’s globalized financial system, any news bad enough could trigger total collapse of the system, would anybody want that? Just learn to live in the new world, and try to do best personal research and your own decisions. As if it were any different before, ok, just the stakes are bigger this time around.
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Amen.
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Collapse of the whole system sounds ideal to me. Rotten to the core (no pun) only way to fix it is to eradicate it.
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NOt trying to derail thread, but friday meet guy selling old dosimeters and geiger counters. He said fuck u shima rad will not get here and it is fearmongering to think otherwise. the devices were governmnent issue surplus. But were useless, with only massive rad exposure for nuke bomb scenerio.
Another guy ex military said that the fuku plant would need to explode into the atmosphere to carry the states.
Now it is more a matter of physics.
How high in the sky does it need to go to carry? Does rad rays float or sink?
Oh course I did not buy one, but did get a israeli gas mask for $25.
Any thoughts?
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Yeah, read the US Government stats on what has already been detected right here in the USA – if it can’t reach the US, then where did this come from?
Date Place Cs 134 Cs136 Cs137 Te132
3/21 Salt Lake 0.0141 0.0029 0.018 0.025
3/24 Orlando 0.0151 0.0014 0.019 0.024
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They did the right thing. There would have been widespread panic and probably more deaths caused by the chaos than will ever be caused by the plant breakdown.
What would it have accomplished to release information, that wasn’t horrible or even terribly bad, during a time when an earthquake and tsunami just took tens of thousands of lives? Why add a potential nuclear accident to that if not necessary?
It wasn’t necessary to release the information at the time. That’s clear now. While withholding the data was not the honest thing to do, it certainly was the correct decision in light of everything we know now.
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oh harry you going to start having people complaining, many have told you, go to fukushima help to solve this. or eat some plutonium.
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Harry the asshole has spoken. PHD, my asshole.
“I have blood running my kids noses, should I panic now?”
Give me your address s o I can send you some gulf shrime to “sniff” test.
Ass troll……………..
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Tell that to the people in the GOM that are sick now !
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Tell that to the 911 workers whom are sick and to families that have lost a love one from poisons there !
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The covert ommissions regarding the true state of the TEPCO reactors were for one reason and one reason alone – stock value and the viability of this huge corporation. The five major shareholders of TEPCO are Japan Trustee Services Bank, Dai-chi Life Insurance Company, Ltd., The Master Trust Bank of Japan, Ltd., Nippon Life Insurance Company, and Tokyo Metropolitan Government. In March, TEPCO lost 18 Billion in market value in a 2 day slide, crashing 62% in value. http://WWW.MARKETWATCH.COM. Herein lies the answer, Tepco stock cannot lose anymore value, consumer confidence has to be kept high and information (lies and ommissions)is controlled to promote the rebound of TEPCO stock.
This has little to do with caring about lethal radiation levels and the health effects on citizens and everything to do with avoiding market losses and long term liability.
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It’s always about money (greed) over peoples lifes !
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Hey… idiot… ya you… Harry PHD (Piled High & Deep)
If I see a car approaching and about to strike you down, I’ll keep my mouth shut, and save you from a panic.
What a loser.
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lol
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You would be lucy if he yell “watch out” a your funeral !
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Who the fuck is Harry PHD?
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harry phd is the head of the plutonium lovers matchmaking society.
a group set up by areva nuclear france and general depleted uranium electric and Baron David we want your gold Rothschild.
it guarantees to Find you radioactive isotopic love within a split second after ingestion or your money back.
dollars not excepted..
baron rothchild stated that for years uranium and plutonium have been horrid dirty words. instilling fear into dumb plebeian riff raff.
with the the help of truth givers like harry phd. we are now seeing millions of people opening hearts,lungs and stomachs to the healing power of radiation.
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one needs to laugh once in a while.
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I strongly disagree, Harry.
In Korea, the government was sensible, and told citizens to stay out of the rain when concentrations of radioactive particles were significantly below what was reported in the northwest U.S. at around the same time. The Korean government gave schools the options of closing; a few did.
There was no panic or hysteria among the Koreans. There would not have been any here, either. We are not cowards or sheep, and it’s only natural to resent being treated as such.
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There’s a huge difference between Korea announcing there were radioactive particles (and very low levels at that, as they stated) and Japan announcing, after a major earthquake and tsunami, that there were low levels of radiation in the air.
Remember, they did evacuate the region, so they were proactive in protecting those who could be impacted by radiation.
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Harry – You try to pass yourself off as a really analytical apologist for TEPCO. Not Working.
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http://counterpunch.org/nader04272011.html
April 27, 2011
Concealing the Consequences
Chernobyl 25 Years Later
By RALPH NADER
http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/2011/04/85736.html
OPINION: How to minimize consequences of the Fukushima catastrophe
By Alexey V. Yablokov
MOSCOW, April 15, Kyodo
http://www.amazon.com/Chernobyl-Consequences-Catastrophe-Environment-ebook/dp/B004X8DOQC/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1304448464&sr=8-3
$2.99
AMAZON Kindle edition – April 19, 2011
Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment
Alexey Yablokov (Author), Vassily Nesterenko (Author), Alexey Nesterenko (Author), Janette Sherman-Nevinger (Editor), Dmitry Grodzinsky (Foreword)
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2011/04/29-7
Published on Friday, April 29, 2011 by Institute for Policy Studies
Japan’s Nuclear Catastrophe Leaves Little to Celebrate on Children’s Day
A recent government decision callously put thousands of kids in harm’s way.
by Robert Alvarez
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My eyes were closed.
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I saw Katrina disaster, people held at gun point hungry and thirsty.
One eye opened up.
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I saw 9/11, hero’s who helped and then cleaned up without protection, breathing all that was around them into their lungs.
Two eyes opened up.
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Then I saw the Gulf Disaster. The lack of warnings. The total disregard of people, the environment, and so on and so on.
Two eyes now filled with tears.
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We now have Japans disaster blowing our way.
I want to close my eyes again, but can’t.
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@ WindorSolarPlease
Did you script that ?
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I just wrote what I feel.
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Nice words for a bad deal.
Keep the faith.
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Sad words, but true. There are things that I thought I would never see in this Country. We can do better than this.
Always keeping my eye on the Lord and keeping the faith.
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Recommended books:
Voices From Chernobyl (in print)
Chernobyl Heart 20 Years On (out-of-print in US; available from Amazon UK)
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Thanks for your suggestions. After browsing Kindle books on Amazon, I decided to buy this one:
Cause and Effect: Understanding Chernobyl
http://amzn.to/mMteL9
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Thanks for the tip. It’s important to find objective sources. Yablokov’s press conference at the National Press Club on 3/25/11 was carried by C-Span:
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/Chernob
Nader was present (see his op-ed above). At the time, only the print edition of the study was available (new $150); recently, used copies sold for $600-705.
Then Amazon published the ebook for $2.99.
Here’s a March 2010 review of the English translation:
http://www.nyas.org/Publications/Annals/Detail.aspx?cid=f3f3bd16-51ba-4d7b-a086-753f44b3bfc1
A Review of
CHERNOBYL: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment
By Rosalie Bertell, Ph.D.
This new publication of the Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences (Volume 1181), by Alexey Yablokov, Vassily Nesterenko, and Alexey Nesterenko, is the elucidation many of us have been waiting for since the 1986 disaster at the failed nuclear reactor in Ukraine. Until now we have read about the published reports of limited spotty investigations by western scientists who undertook projects in the affected territories. Even the prestigious IAEA, WHO and UNSCEAR reports have been based on about 300 such western research papers, leaving out the findings of some 30,000 scientific papers prepared by scientists working and living in the stricken territories and suffering the everyday problems of residential contamination with nuclear debris and a contaminated food supply.
Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment is wrtitten by Alexey Yablokov, Vassily Nesterenk and Alexey Nesterenko. The senior author, Alexey Yablokov was head of the Russian Academy of Science under Gobachev – since then he receives no support. Vassily Nesterenko, head of the Ukrainian Nuclear establishment at the time of the accident, flew over the burning reactor and took the only measurements. In August 2009, he died as a result of radiation damage, but earlier, with help from Andrei Sakarov, was able to establish BELRAD to help children of the area.
The three scientists who assembled the information in the book from more than 5000 published articles and research findings, mostly available only within the former Soviet Union or Eastern block countries and not accessible in the West, are prestigious scientists who present objective facts clearly nuanced with little or no polemics. They were not encumbered by a desire to promote or excessively blame a failed technology!
The book was expertly translated into readable English by Janette Sherman, Medical Toxicologist and Adjunct Professor in the Environmental Institute at Western Michigan University.
Professor Dr. of Biology, Dimitro Grodzinsky, Chair of the Department of Biology of the Ukraine National Academy of Sciences, and member of the National Commission wrote the Forward to the book. His statement relative to Western reporting of the accident is illuminating:
“For a long time I have thought that the time has come to put an end to the opposition between technocracy advocates and those who support objective scientific efforts to estimate the negative risks for people exposed to the Chernobyl fallout. The basis for believing that these risks are not minor is very convincing.”
The government of the former Soviet Union previously classified many documents now accessible to the authors. For example, we now know that the number of people hospitalized for acute radiation sickness was more than a hundred times larger than the number recently quoted by the IAEA, WHO and UNSCEAR. Unmentioned by the technocrats were the problems of “hot particles” of burning uranium that caused nasopharyngeal problems, and the radioactive fallout that resulted in general deterioration of the health of children, wide spread blood and lymph system diseases, reproductive loss, premature and small infant births, chromosomal mutations, congenital and developmental abnormalities, multiple endocrine diseases, mental disorders and cancer.
The authors systematically explain the secrecy conditions imposed by the government, the failure of technocrats to collect data on the number and distribution of all of the radionuclides of major concern, and the restrictions placed on physicians against calling any medical findings radiation related unless the patient had been a certified “acute radiation sickness” patient during the disaster, thus assuring that only 1% of injuries would be so reported.
This book is a “must read” for all of those bureaucrats currently promoting nuclear power as the only “solution” for climate change. Those who seek information on the disaster only from the official documentation provided by the IAEA, WHO and UNSCEAR need to broaden their reading to include the reality check from those scientists who have access to local findings and are simply telling the truth, with no hidden propaganda agenda.
I was impressed by the simple message of the cover of this volume, which shows a number of felled logs with clearly distinguishable colors of wood: before and after Chernobyl. The reader will find that the environment, living plants and animals all suffered ill effects from this experience, as did the human population. It should be a sobering read for all those who have believed the fiction that “low doses of radiation are harmless”, or that a severe nuclear accident is easily contained within the human environment.
Below is the New York Academy of Sciences site for the book. Unfortunately, its selling price is now about $150, which may limit its distribution.
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http://www.amazon.com/Chernobyl-Consequences-Catastrophe-Environment-ebook/dp/B004X8DOQC/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1304448464&sr=8-3
$2.99
AMAZON Kindle edition – April 19, 2011
Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the Environment
Alexey Yablokov (Author), Vassily Nesterenko (Author), Alexey Nesterenko (Author), Janette Sherman-Nevinger (Editor), Dmitry Grodzinsky (Foreword)
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Kindle’s Orwellian tactics caused outrage when (paid for) copies of Orwell’s “1984″ were deleted from users devices without their consent.
http://mashable.com/2009/07/17/amazon-kindle-1984/
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Creepy, but that happened because the estate of the author hadn’t granted permission for the publication of the ebooks by Amazon.
In this case, Amazon is making an ESSENTIAL out-of-print study available with or without a Kindle.
It was brave.
Don’t take my word for it, read the Nader Op-Ed above.
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Elaborating on the roots of the whole 311 cover-up.
The first sign of the vulnerability of the world’s financial system has briefly sparked on 6-May-2010 ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Dow_Jones_Flash_Crash ) in the midst of Greece financial crisis. The avalanche had to be stopped by hard switch. Since then, all measures have been taken to avoid any natural (unagreed) development in the market. That basically changed the world we live in, as money and market lost it’s meaning completely.
But the vulnerability remains. Despite the safeguards set after 10.05, a MSM announcement like “all three reactors in fukushima are melting full swing” (which is old news btw) could still trigger panic in world stock markets (and not only).
This whole Fukushima cover-up is a collective action by many, but we shouldn’t forget the developments, that led to situation where such reaction was made possible. Which is, greed.
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Mark – Very interesting post.
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