Published: July 29th, 2013 at 7:09 pm ET
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Title: Wayne Brittenden’s Counterpoint
Source: Radio New Zealand
Date: July 28, 2013
Wayne Brittenden, host: [...] This latest revelation, the leaking of radioactive water into the sea to harm marine and ultimately human life, hasn’t just happened — the revelation came a day after Prime Minister and nuclear power devotee Shinzo Abe was re-elected. The bad news would’ve undoubtedly affected his chances. [...]
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Arnie Gundersen, former nuclear industry executive and now chief engineer at the Fairewinds organisation: The net effect is the Pacific near Japan, and likely the whole Pacific, over the next 5 years will have cesium levels 5 to 10 times higher than what they were at the peak of bomb testing. So this is the biggest release of radiation to a body of water in the history of the world, much worse than Chernobyl. So the net effect is we’ve contaminated the biggest body of water on the planet [...]
Published: July 29th, 2013 at 7:09 pm ET
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We'll be alright. Don't any of you worry. It appears that the human body has developed a solution to cope with radioactive materials. The skin forms cysts that fill will fluid that just need to be drained weekly at your friendly neighborhood dermatologist. Cysts on the brain however need to be done by the neurosurgeon.
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They indeed fill with fluid that tries to carry the radiation and other non-self materials away. Dang keyboard.
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"..this is the biggest release of radiation to a body of water in the history of the world,…" – A. Gundersen
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The only body of water on EARTH…..It's all one biosphere. It's like being in a round room with a ball rolling around, eventually it will run into you or you will run into it.
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so goes the world ocean so goes Planet Earth..Im sure that what must happen will happen.Instead of individuals bitting the dust. It will be the whole shebang.As the song by Tom Lehrer goes we will all go together when we go…Any questions? Its not if it will happen only when…
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Money, money, money…….. "Screw the people, you're not taking my money." What it's been about from day one.
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hbjon,
Yummy!
Nothing better than millions of draining, hot, oozing, puss filled, cysts to suck on.
I am sure they can harvest this human radioactive diseased/puss filled/ oozing fluid coming from these cysts for their future radioactive isotope medical research programs/grants.. as the rampant human mutations begin/start around the world…
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Nothing a round of chemo and radiation therapy can't fix.
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There is one thing better obewan and that is the tax payer nipple.
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That comment is apropos of WHAT?? It's a disgusting comment.
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I think you know it's a remarkable comment worthy of explanation. It is extremely disgusting for an industry to create a problem and then tell the taxpayers they need access to the money nozzle to solve it. Sucking on the money nozzle will not solve this problem. I think we all can agree that they suck.
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"… So the net effect is we’ve contaminated the biggest body of water on the planet [...]"
People keep saying it's the Pacific that been irradiated. Actually, WE'VE contaminated ALL the water on the planet. Because you can guarantee that eventually, all of the seas and oceans will contain water from the pacific, as will the rain.
In a 1000 years, you may get lucky and find some ice buried deep inside a glacier, or the Antarctic ice cap that isn't radioactive, assuming that there is any ice left by then.
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sorry.. but the cap is currently a lake… so, any water from it is now radioactive as well.
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http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1263658/thumbs/o-NORTH-POLE-1-900.jpg
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http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=26461827
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Santa must be REALLY PISSED about all this!
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Santa? That would be a lie. Santa is not real. Made up. You know that, right?
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Even I need to "Step-Back" and say a funny thing now and again.. keeps me from SCREAMING !
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According to quantum physics, norbu, Santa Claus is no more or less real than you or I.
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TIS, Hi sure. Ok you are right. Sorry PB, thanks for setting me straight.
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santa is a fantasy. sorry.
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I'm Santa every year!
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Santa is REAL… stamping feet.
Santa is REAL.. TV and all of the shopping centers say so… he must be…
There is a North Pole (city), in Alaska and a Santa Village you can write to.
http://www.santaclaushouse.com/
(sarc)
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What… You mean Antarctica has become a lake too, I thought that was just the Arctic icecap that did that.
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…or did the pole-shift happen, and I wasn't sent the memo ??
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Antarctica as in SOUTH POLE.
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http://www.geocities.ws/napaakisu/climate.htm
http://www.geocities.ws/napaakisu/index_files/image002.jpg
no.. no sun down there at moment..
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A look under the snow..
http://www.dailygalaxy.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/05/07/antarcticlakes_vostok_3.jpg
But it's still getting BAD even down there…:
http://indiacurrentaffairs.org/antarcticas-glacier-contributing-10-pc-of-sea-level-rise/
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Have a listen to this.. I think these ladies are in need of some time behind bars in prison for suggesting, and setting the PTB free to do this shite!
http://gallery.usgs.gov/audios/452
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THEY of ALL PEOPLE are the ones that KNOW what the end results will be!
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"Whole Pacific Ocean likely to have cesium levels 5-10 times higher than at peak of nuclear bomb tests."
It will be far more than 5-10x higher by the time it's over. And what about all the other radioisotopes flooding into the Pacific Ocean? They never get mentioned, and they are all far more lethal.
The big question is, what will all that cesium (and everything else) do to the phytoplankton that provides us with the majority of our oxygen? This is a far bigger problem than radioactive tuna.
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Nitrogen transmutes into oxygen when exposed to neutrons. Perhaps we'll have enough oxygen. Buy some houseplants just in case. In the short term, avoid the tuna.
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you need to look at my slideshow.. the radioactive content has done and desalinated the Pacific and started bio-mutation of diseases and shut-down the oxygen generation.
http://s1280.photobucket.com/user/Pattie_Brassard/slideshow/Nuke-Quakes/Space_Sat_Data
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here's what it HAS DONE… desalination.
http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a500/Pattie_Brassard/Nuke-Quakes/Space_Sat_Data/OceanSalinity-2_7-13_zps3b074a7e.jpg
The out-wash from under the salt domes that's full of corexit!
http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a500/Pattie_Brassard/Nuke-Quakes/Space_Sat_Data/OceanSalinity-1_7-13_zps8aa669c1.jpg
And the REALLY BAD news.. the oxygen content:
http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a500/Pattie_Brassard/Nuke-Quakes/Space_Sat_Data/Sea_Oxygen_zpsd142e30a.jpg
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Is there a before pic?
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they wiped all the pre-2011 data out of it. @j@ Gee… now why would they do that !??
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fibonacci !!!
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whatever happened to planckton for which we get 70% of all oxygen Will earth lose its atmosphere….??Will Earth become the new Mars?
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WNTF, I think you are spot on.
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Here it is….
http://www.ecomare.nl/en/ecomare-encyclopedie/animals-and-plants/plants/algae-and-seaweed/phytoplankton/
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A plague of Giant locust ( Humans ) destroyed it !!!
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Also remember that Arnie Gundersen is a scientific guy with measured words. Not given to hyperbole. So his estimate is probably on the LOW side.
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The Monterey Bay Aquarium Seafood Watch program
http://www.montereybayaquarium.org/cr/cr_seafoodwatch/sfw_aboutsfw.aspx
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SeafoodSource
http://www.seafoodsource.com/newsarticledetail.aspx?id=21525
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safeseafood App for smartphones
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.montereybayaquarium.seafoodwatch
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5 to 10 times is assuming equal dilution. Radiation is negatively charged so it might attract to certain things or clump together. It will not dilute like typical chemicals. Likely high concentrations around japan and beyond.
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It's way worse than you could fathom! here's what it HAS DONE… desalination.
http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a500/Pattie_Brassard/Nuke-Quakes/Space_Sat_Data/OceanSalinity-2_7-13_zps3b074a7e.jpg
The out-wash from under the salt domes that's full of corexit!
http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a500/Pattie_Brassard/Nuke-Quakes/Space_Sat_Data/OceanSalinity-1_7-13_zps8aa669c1.jpg
And the REALLY BAD news.. the oxygen content:
http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a500/Pattie_Brassard/Nuke-Quakes/Space_Sat_Data/Sea_Oxygen_zpsd142e30a.jpg
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the really BAD NEWS.. THIS !!
http://i1280.photobucket.com/albums/a500/Pattie_Brassard/Nuke-Quakes/Space_Sat_Data/7-13-_Clorine-Mon_zpsc2d1844e.jpg
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Thanks for shining the light for all to see.
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PattieB,
We got a virus from the Space_Sat_Data link, I believe, like enoughalready45. The PC is toast.
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I'm very sorry about that!!!!!
Like I said, that site is NOT secure!
6 Gigs of my data got DELETED off the site already… so they are now confirmed as working for / with TPTB !! ;-(
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Not surprised that someone would want to add a virus. Maybe there is an alternative? Thanks for your work, PattieB.
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THE WHOLE WORLD should have dealt with this catastrophe, from the very onset. Now the entire Pacific Ocean, nee the entire world is contaminated from this terrible disaster. Is Japan responsible for this? Yes, but so are all the Governments of the world, that should have insisted that this problem be dealt with on the scale necessary to have immediate effect. The cat is out of the bag now, and the whole world is going to suffer something awful. Mark my words that this could be the beginning of the end, in more ways than one…
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It is important to convey how serious the Fukushima nuclear disaster is, to as many people as possible, quickly and efficiently, so they can take action to protect themselves, and their families.
Get the message out there on quickly, and efficiently. You don’t need to explain anything just distribute the lifesaver.pdf or create your own, hand it out, mailbox it, or email it.
http://technologypals.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/lifesaver.pdf
I have been advising people here for a log time now, not to eat pacific sea food.
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Sorry typo "long time now"
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Contaminating the whole earth, Fukushima Daiichi is …thanks to nuclear.
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I see where PhilipUpNorth found an updated report from Sandia National Laboratories about the Daiichi meltdowns using computer modeling that I originally linked via the same http://www.simplyinfo.org/?p=10752 site.
As experts (NRC, etc.) try to figure out what went wrong and how to avoid it in the future, they use computer models to reenact events. Of course computer models need data input and none other than TEPCO has the official version of events and data so Sandia Labs has to use what is allowed.
Even Sandia Labs conclusions, to date, have to be taken with a grain of salt. Still, TEPCO couldn't avoid saying there wasn't any melt downs. It is a bit to obvious that the site is almost a complete failure.
Some timelines I have read clearly state that they are guessing to what happened to the melted cores and highlight the guesses in red.
Anyway, a few might skim this report and look at the drawings. Others will poo poo it as misdirection but you won't find any lava tubes references in this report as twelve people helped author it…
http://melcor.sandia.gov/docs/Fukushima_SAND_Report_final.pdf
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Sandia needs access to FDNPP in order to study the actual forensics of the ruins. Computer models only go so far in what they can predict. Someone needs to figure out what happened before TEPCO destroys the evidence during "decommissioning". Then, once realworld conditions of the plant are known, Sandia needs to do some work on its whimpy little MELCOR model, IMO.
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razzz… I find it enlightening that you go looking for EVERYONE who has an opinion that flies in the face of THE FACTS… like it matters at all what others THINK happened, when the pictures and data FROM THE SITE show just exactly what DID HAPPEN !!
@j@ just more DISINFORMATION is what your attempting to spread around here…
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The D.O.E. was on this, as I have posted the link. D.O.E. has the best of the best. Perhaps few people are aware how much power a modern supercomputer has. They model nuclear weapons systems all the time. Some melt downs would be modeled with accuracy. At Livermore, no one is supposed to talk to anyone else even in their own building. A strict top down chain of info and command. Sandia relies on nuclear for existence. I met a sandia guy and wouldnt have bought his used car. (of course there are good people there and everywhere). But obfuscation is RAMPANT. The same in pharmaceuticals. Something fundamentally screwed up with the species.
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The Native Americans believed that the white man was insane when they first met them. Nothing has changed.
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How can you own the air, the water, or the ground?
White people think you can, and do.
Indians know better.
White people believe they are separate from Nature and must subdue it, along with all pagans.
Indians know that humanity is ONE with Nature, and must live in harmony with it, or perish trying to do the opposite.
White people believe worthless scraps of paper have enormous value, worth selling out infinite generations of children in the future.
Indians know that paper has no value. Only Nature has value, and Indians are stewards of what they were given for free.
White people think only short term, for themselves, selfishly.
Indians think about protecting air, water, soil, animals and other resources, for seven future generations.
Insanity is as insanity does.
American Indian Prophecy, Living As Soul on Earth; via @AGreenRoad
http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2012/04/american-indian-prophecies-and-way-of.html
Holistic Living, Health, Environment And Renewable Energy
http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/p/green-energy-green-living.html
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One million percent!
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Greed and fear = insanity and secrecy.
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I have the quote from a paper that says radiostrontium is up 4 to 5 orders of magnitude in the ocean. Thats quite a bit more than 5 to 10 times! One thing is clear; you cant rely on NOAA, Woods Hole or any university to cough up the facts. What is WRONG with those people?
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Well…it DID come from a "paper". Who owns it?
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pinksailmatt, no a scientific paper
Source: Environmental Science & Technology
Authors: Pavel P. Povinec, Katsumi Hirose, and Michio Aoyama
How many times is 5 orders of magnitude? 100,000x right? not 5 to 10 times. But thats radiostrontium
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"…The class of scale or magnitude of any amount, where each class contains values of a fixed ratio (most often 10) to the class preceding it. For example, something that is 2 orders of magnitude larger is 100 times larger; something that is 3 orders of magnitude larger is 1000 times larger; and something that is 6 orders of magnitude larger is one million times larger, because 10^210^2 = 100, 10^310^3 = 1000, and 10^610^6 = one million…"
https://www.boundless.com/physics/introduction/significant-figures-and-order-of-magnitude/order-of-magnitude-calculations/
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They cannot get funding unless they put out pro nuclear 'spin' via studies and statistics.
Funding is cut off for any scientist that is not pro nuclear.
Witness Busby, Arnie, etc. None of the critics or scientists who are showing the truth get any money from 'normal' government or industry sources. The nuclear industry controls the money flow.
Be good, shut up and sit down… Otherwise, no money FOR YOU.
Kind of like the soup Nazi on Seinfeld..
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taking the 4 orders of magnitude from scientific paper, not 5 times as per Arnie, and multiplying by 300 bioaccumulation factor in seals, we end up with seals and dolphins having some three million times more radioactivity than pre fukushima. Unless the extra terrestrials start helping out, I think we can kiss the animals goodbye. (70% baby seal die off in CA already)
(A 1999 study found that seals and porpoises in the Irish Sea concentrated radioactive cesium by a factor of 300 relative to its concentration in seawater, and a factor of 3 to 4 compared to the fish they ate.)
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