Radio: Health physicist in U.S. worried about inhaling hot particle from Fukushima — Either uranium, plutonium, etc. (AUDIO)

Published: October 4th, 2013 at 3:28 pm ET
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Title: Chris Harris – Nuclear Update on Fukushima
Source: Nutrimedical Report
Date: Oct. 3, 2013

At 43:00 in

Chris Harris, former licensed Senior Reactor Operator and engineer: Let me relay just one more thought from my health physicist friend. Even here in the U.S., he’s worried about inhaling a hot particle; I’m just letting you know — and so am I. […]

Either uranium, plutonium, or something bad — remember they’re not even monitoring for strontium and uranium, so it’s very difficult to monitor what we’re getting and not getting. […]

This is real; we don’t want this to happen here. It’s upsetting other people too.

Full broadcast here (right-click and choose ‘Save Link As’)

Published: October 4th, 2013 at 3:28 pm ET
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89 comments to Radio: Health physicist in U.S. worried about inhaling hot particle from Fukushima — Either uranium, plutonium, etc. (AUDIO)

  • Time Is Short Time Is Short

    Hey, Chris. Send your friend this:

    Here's a chart showing the westward radiation plume after only the explosion at Reactor #1 at Fukushima on 3/11/11 (there were 4 reactors in total that blew up, along with 3, possibly 4 Spent Fuel Storage Pools (SFPs) that burned up, increasing this info by an exponential factor. The plumes are loaded with uranium and plutonium):

    Fig. 1. Particles spacing on 20 March, 2011 at 12:00 UTC (top) and on 27 March, 2011 at 18:00 UTC (bottom); shades of red indicate particles in the bottom layer, up to 3 km; black to dark blue indicate the middle layer, up to 6 km height; and light blue indicates the upper layer; the trajectories were simulated using the Lagrangian dispersion model (time of the particles release was on 12 March 2011). (For interpretation of the references to colour in this figure legend, the reader is referred to the web version of this article.)
    SOURCE: Lujanien_ e, G., et al.

    http://enenews.com/study-all-western-east-coast-covered-airborne-particles-march-20-model-shows-canada-based-solely-reactor-1-explosion-photo


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    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      “Dr Paolo Scampa, a widely know EU Physicist, single handedly popularized the easily understood Lethal Doses concept. “Lethal Doses” is a world wide, well understood idea that strips Physics bare and offers a brilliant, understandable explanation for all the physics gobbledygook Intelligence agencies and their respective governments use to disguise the brutal truths of the Fukushima Daiichi Disaster."
      "Three thousand billion (3,000,000,000,000) Lethal Doses of Radiation means there are 429 Lethal Doses chasing each and every one of us on the planet, to put it in a nutshell. This is up from about 70 Billion Lethal Doses March 23, 2011. It is getting worse everyday without any intervention by the US and the other nuclear powers….”

      "Note that the lethality of radioactive reactor cores goes up the first 250,000 years they are out of the reactor – not down."

      http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/05/28/fukushima-how-many-chernobyls-is-it/

      Tell your 'health physicist' friend it's a little G-d damn late to be asking about inhaling hot particles.


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      • J.

        I think Scampa is right. "Lethal doses" is as clear and simple as it gets.

        Combine that with this:

        NPP=WMD=MAD.


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        • VanneV anne

          Hot particles forever
          Plutonium is forever
          By LeRoy Moore and Robert Del Tredici
          BOULDER DAILY CAMERA
          Posted: 01/29/2012 01:00:00 AM MST
          “Whether to build the Jefferson Parkway or to turn Rocky Flats into a playground, the determining factor should not be commercial or residential development. The determining factor should be hot particles of plutonium.
          “A hot particle of plutonium is one that can lodge in air sacs of a lung or be moved via blood elsewhere in the organism. Wherever it resides in the body it irradiates surrounding tissue. A single particle of plutonium can damage more than 10,000 cells within its range.
          “Nobel chemist Glenn Seaborg, who discovered plutonium in 1941, called it “fiendishly toxic, even in small amounts.’ Physicist Jeremy Bernstein recently declared plutonium “the world’s most dangerous element.’…
          “Plutonium particles in the soil at Rocky Flats will one way or another, sooner or later, come into people’s lungs and lives, since, with a half-life of 24,000 years, it poses a radiation hazard essentially forever. Minute particles much smaller than germs get brought to the surface by burrowing animals, incautious humans, turbulent geology and extreme weather. Such particles can be carried near and far by the wind and inhaled by unsuspecting people, including children, the most vulnerable. Once inside the body, plutonium does its damage.


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        • VanneV anne

          Hypoadrenocorticism in Beagles Exposed to Aerosols of Plutonium-238 Dioxide by Inhalation
          http://www.rrjournal.org/doi/abs/10.2307/3579386?journalCode=rare


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        • VanneV anne

          There is a correlation between Cushing's Syndrome and plutonium inhalation. I lived in Boulder, CO just north of Rocky Flats for 30 years. And my dog died of Cushing's Syndrome.
          http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/radiation/dir/mstreet/commeet/meet10/brief10/tab_i/br10i2.txt


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      • We Not They Finally

        But it's not too late to be PUBLICIZING it. First saw the Paolo Scampa write-up about the 3 thousand billion lethal doses of plutonium in agreenroad blog, which is an excellent source of nuclear news.

        Plutonium hot particles are apparently most likely to lodge in the lungs. So if/when there is an epidemic of lung cancer, at least the public might KNOW why. How will that help people already gravely ill? That I don't know. But all this bears repeating as we all have the right to know.


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        • VanneV anne

          Plutonium and the End of Humanity
          Posted by Dr Sircus on July 2, 2012
          “…Dr. Herman Muller, who has received a Nobel Prize for his work, has shown how the human race’s continuous exposure to so-called “low-level” radiation is causing a gradual reduction in its ability to survive, as successive generations are genetically damaged. 'The spreading and accumulation of even tiny genetic mutations pass through family lines, provoking allergies, asthma, juvenile diabetes, hypertension, arthritis, high blood cholesterol conditions, and muscular and bone defects.'…”
          http://drsircus.com/world-news/plutonium-humanity


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    • orsobubu orsobubu

      Time is short, can you give me your opinion … in the article cited, it is said that the particles arrived in Europe on March 20. Looking at the map of the world, it seems to me that we can estimate that the distance between Japan and Europe measured eastward is twice than measured westward. Since the time of the total circulation of the atmosphere at those latitudes is 40 days, in theory, the bulk of the cloud would have to go on Europe after approximately 25 days (two thirds), ie after April 5. The half-life of iodine-131 is 8 days, so for that date must have already undergone 3 decays. Now I ask: is it fair to say that decay 1 = 50% of the original radioactivity, decay 2 = 25%, and 3 = 12.5%​​? In addition, it makes sense today to protect the thyroid, in Europe, with supplements for people with more than 40 years? thanks


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  • rnix rnix

    "We are healthy only to the extent that our ideas are humane."

    Kilgore Trout's epitaph


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  • AliveandGlowing1

    THINGS…lemme check my 'cliff' notes (AVAILABLE IN MOST HOTEL NIGHTSTANDS-WORLDWIDE)… I said this at this time on the PREVIOUS ARTICLE:

    Please, feel free to continue mocking every word I SAY.
    October 4, 2013 at 3:19 pm · Reply
    ..who knows? Maybe that 'god' character will give y'all one last WARNING SHOT HEADLINE………….just so's you will know for 100% sure just where we are in the great big scheme of

    THEN THIS GUY SAID THIS: Let me relay just one more thought from my health physicist friend. Even here in the U.S., he’s worried about inhaling a hot particle; I’m just letting you know — and so am I.

    NOTHING BIBLICAL GOING ON HERE………..EVRYBODY IN THE UNITED STATES……..don't breathe in…no matter what


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    • Here comes another one. The Kez character didn't work out so well so its probably the same pimply faced kid trying on another disruptive persona. Obviously he/she is trying to accomplish something disruptive. But they long ago gave up on standard pro nuke rhetoric and now resort to this dramatic type hyperbole of half truths. Throwing religion into the mix is a nice touch. Yes perhaps I will engage with you lest a casual observer think we are all a bunch of weirdos here. That is what your trying to accomplish isn't it? Why else would anyone try so hard to sound so unbalanced? I guess working at the Wallmart has lost its allure to you? None of you ever sound particularly educated which is sadly predictable. Why not try selling used cars? You might actually be good at it as long as you only engage with the mentally challenged.
      Why does the administer put up with your ilk? Well your type will increase posts which translate to increased traffic and more advertising revenue for Enenews to finance the important work thats done here. So go ahead. Act like a lunatic. Everyone has to be good at one thing. This is your time to shine.


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      • bo bo

        Wow. I totally had that thought pass through my head – that kez and alive/glowing were one and the same… but crossed it off thinking I'm probably just paranoid. Could they be…? So surreal… and strangely comical…


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        • bo bo

          The 2 talk of different things yet have totally similar tone!


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          • The trolls come and go. You get used to it. Mostly lazy not too bright individuals that can't hold down a job. They still think they can hide behind a screen and fool people. A naive outlook. All have poor spelling and argumentative stances. Kez/AliveandGlowing will get fired soon and have to go back to Wallmart. There are others here more subtle but when a particularly damaging to nuke power or something that obviously shows the American government pandering to nukes instead of protecting the American people type article comes out those that change the subject are always suspect.


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      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        guys, AliveandGlowing1 displays psychosis, taunting is in bad taste. This is an issue for the administrator. Sorry AliveandGlowing. If you are Moses's wife, then I think you came to the wrong forum. Maybe your church would listen


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        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          taunting..
          taunt |tônt|
          noun
          a remark made in order to anger, wound, or provoke someone.
          verb [ trans. ]
          provoke or challenge (someone) with insulting remarks : students began taunting her about her weight.
          • reproach (someone) with something in a contemptuous way : she had taunted him with going to another man.
          DERIVATIVES
          taunter |ˈtɔn(t)ər| noun
          tauntingly |ˈtɔn(t)ɪŋli| adverb
          ORIGIN early 16th cent.: from French tant pour tant ‘like for like, tit for tat,’ from tant ‘so much,’ from Latin tantum, neuter of tantus. An early use of the verb was [exchange banter.]


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          • yohananw

            re forum sensibility
            – Shakespeare had it played:
            >>KING LEAR
            First let me talk with this philosopher.
            What is the cause of thunder?
            KENT
            Good my lord, take his offer; go into the house.
            KING LEAR
            I'll talk a word with this same learned Theban.
            What is your study?
            <<


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        • CodeShutdown, you are too kind. I say it is a troll. It doesn't even matter to me if its really a mentally unstable individual it is troll like behaviour. Why waste the administrators time? Let him/her continue researching for the good fight. We can deal with it. Trolls can't spell are basically not too bright once you engage they usually go away as they want you to be unsure of their status. Like Kez, boo hoo you've hurt me I'm cutting my account. Normal people just stop participating if they don't like a chat room especially if they've only participated for a couple weeks or a month.


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    • i want to say absolutely …if god would like to help us out with Fukushima please do!
      otherwise he's still showing up on the AWOL report….

      don't worry about me….it's been a long time since i had to breath…you don't gain as much weight that way…


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  • AliveandGlowing1

    gee…I sure hope the world don't end while you CIA boys are ………….trying to 'come up with a plan'.3w


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    • A good example of a poor attempt at being a troll


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    • Lion76 Lion76

      OMG GUYS!!! THEY FIGURED OUT OUR CONSPIRACY!!

      Sad to say it, but there are so many mentally ill people running around that I think a mental breakdown is all we got left.


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      • Not mental illness. Purposeful disruption of what we should be discussing, hot particles from fukushima and obummer inaction.


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        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          What's your guy Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper doing? Anything?


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          • Harpo panders to your American government. Although to a certain extent all Canadian governments do that as USA is a superpower and Canada not so much. United States population 316,783,000, Canada, 35,158,304.

            Stephen Harper is busy trying to push pipelines down our throat. Local left wing rag "The Strait" which Enenews featured an article recently has filed freedom of information to get results of fish testing done last year. Harpo has a reputation of muzzling scientists, promoting fossil fuels and ignoring facts. He has pulled us out of Kyodo environmental agreement. At a time when Washington State and others are legalizing pot and majority of Canadians want the same he has increased criminal sentences for possession and production. Really at this moment Canada is still a great country in spite of Harper. As well part of Harpers campaign promise was to reform our senate but once in power he put in a bunch of his people who falsified expense accounts and are under a police investigation and that is another scandal. Also while preaching fiscal responsibility he has managed to massively raise the debt.
            Supports a global economy and has supported foreign workers replacing Canadians. Fukushima is a total non issue up here even on the west coast except the Straight does do stories from time to time. Harper is a conservative drone working for the global economy team.


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            • But if you are asking this question because you feel I'm American bashing, well I am. Love the American people, hate the American government. Fukushima unit one built by an American company. US troops stationed in Japan over 60 years. Nuclear power, the bomb, reactors built to make plutonium made in America although we did help you in WW2 with that project. Your people embedded in Fukushima during disaster. Realistically even if I was the PM of Canada not much I could do except stop production of uranium and then no doubt the CIA would assassinate me. USA has interfered in south american middle east and others. If anybody is in the position to make Japan fix this mess it is the USA. But they won't do it. The American people besides the enlightened few like you Obe, are sidetracked by a 21st century version of bread and circuses and USA is merely another Rome, doomed to failure eventually as all great civilizations in the past have succumbed one way or another.


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            • We Not They Finally

              Why does left wing equal a "rag"? You should welcome exposes wherever they come from. No one may care about ANYONE'S politics once we are all breathing nuko-crap.


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              • We Not They Finally, good question, sorry I missed your comment. Its not a rag because its Left Wing its a rag because its a minor player, has a lot of advertising and three or four actual newsworthy left leaning articles. But over half of it is movie, theatre band reviews schedules and complete club listings. I'm sure every American city has one I just don't know what the names are to give you a comparison. You know its that free rag you read when you have a hot date and want to take her downtown somewhere special and pretend your oh so hip. Comes with Real Astrology or some similar expanded horoscope lots of new age advertising and Savage Love column and four or five pages of massage and escort services male, female and transgendered. Yes, a total rag.


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              • MichaelV MichaelV

                That's my point exactly: the radioactive rain falls on both the one standing on another as the one stood upon. Top and bottom rails both get drenched.


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              • MichaelV MichaelV

                Being ahead of the human learning curve on Fukushima is difficult, have patience.

                When react or 3d was burning I saw reactor 4 explode on video coverage and the powdered uranium just fall back to Earth and you knew it was just control rod dust.

                The elephant in the room are the three missing corii. Damned right there's something hot down there.

                Have the three coriums reached a level that favored a merging of all three…an anomaly that is bringing on the new paradigm..?

                No has absolute certainty about how this will end.


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              • MichaelV MichaelV

                Being ahead of the human learning curve on Fukushima is difficult, have patience.

                When react or 3d was burning I saw reactor 4 explode on video coverage and the powdered uranium just fall back to Earth and you knew it was just control rod dust.

                The elephant in the room are the three missing corii. Damned right there's something hot down there.

                Have the three coriums reached a level that favored a merging of all three…an anomaly that is bringing on the new paradigm..?

                No one has absolute certainty about how this will end. There has been a collision between nuclear power and the uncertainty principle.


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    • if anyone here was with the cia they'd be out spending their money…
      we just talk to ourselves, that's true…


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  • They especially come out when credible ex nuclear industry types talk of danger in the US. Thats when you know you need to read the article or listen to the broadcast.


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  • rnix rnix

    AliveandGlowing1

    "Belief is nearly the whole of the Universe, whether based on truth or not."

    Kurt Vonnegut

    I am not trying to mock you but I think maybe your reality is just a reaction to stress….My way to deal with the tragic inevitable is to tell jokes and point out the ironic, futility of our situation….some with my words but mostly with wise words from the past that we have ignored. Maybe try a little more humor and not so much anger.

    "Humor is a way of holding off how awful life can be."

    Kurt Vonnegut


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  • From the radio show. Paraphrasing, we have the biggest nuclear accident in the world and our President is out golfing and in fighting with the Republicans and everyone thinks we're stupid for shouting out about Fukushima because they can't see the radionuclides attacking our DNA. Its a good radio show that I've been listening to while attacking the troll. Its pretty quiet now Glowing Kez doesn't have much to say. But those types never do.


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  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    P L U T O N I U M . A C R O S S . U N I T E D . S T A T E S . A N D . B E Y O N D

    People breathed in (( many )) hot particles (( everyday )) in the U.S.

    And by now, we all know what a single particle of plutonium does.


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Ergo: Don't hurt me, mine and/or others or Planet Earth!


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  • WWJD WWJD

    This is why I use http://www.netc.com Raspberry Pi to tell my family when to not go outside.


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    • lickerface lickerface

      That site does not ever match the readings given by multiple PRM-9000's we have used. Our model is a pancake style tube which reads three times more than the other type, and I still never really see any CPM numbers higher than 38… yet triple digits are common figures for that site. It is netc which prompted us in buying our own equipment btw…

      I have yet to hear anyone on here confirm those netc readings with their own equipment. Netc readings also seem to not change often. We are not trolls, just saying that resource caused us a lot of stress. That's not to say we aren't concerned. We check enenews multiple times a day!!!


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      • lickerface, very good point you bring up, not trollish at all. Different equipment reads differently and radiation detection is complicated. netc.com site has a variety of stations. Some are private using similar equipment like yourself and some are government using highly sophisticated equipment. I have a Soeks detector that measures in µSv/hr. Please click on my name and you will go to short youtube vid of a multi pixel photon counter, cutting edge technology hooked up to an iPad. You will see the cpm at 480 while the background is only .045 or something µSv/hr. My background reads .11µSv/hr roughly which if my geiger tube wasn't hooked up to software would be reading say 20 cpm.
        This is why to read netc you need to watch the levels as described under map that will tell you if the radiation is rising in any given location. I didn't get it either but once you wrap your head around it it makes sense. I cant compare my readings with yours but if you know what your average background is and I know what mine is we both will know whats higher then average and if there is a problem like fuku plume or local npp problem. Other variable is some measure beta only gamma only most home units measure gamma and beta but this also varies from model to model.


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        • lickerface lickerface

          Thanks Mark. I need to see what equipment and standards are being used to result in these high readings. My background levels rarely fluctuate in Austin and San Antonio and even further west. I remember seeing 969 CPM for Montana, which is unimaginable with my Mazur counter! I can tell whichstations have ordinary counters, but then netc becomes unusable to me when I see figures which are ten times my background in the same city. Using Google satellite maps I can see most stations with high readings to be hospitals and downtown areas, the same places I might only get 32 CPM on a ten minute average. I wish it was absolutely mandatory for each station to list the equipment used and their testing standard. It's extremely crucial!!!! My father looked into this too and I am going to see what else he's found out too. Thnx for showing concern Mark! Great contribution.


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          • WWJD WWJD

            @lickerface – I own a Mazur 9000, InspectorEXP, Polimaster 1703 and more. I have units running 24/7 on http://www.NETC.com so I am aware of what they offer. I can assure you that once you understand what your looking at, you will find even the free information very useful.

            Please feel free to ask any questions about the network on their forum.


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        • WWJD WWJD

          @Mark – Thank you for trying to point out to user lickerface (and others) that when trying to study the radiation levels on NETC.com it is most important to look at the color coded RADCON symbols and not each stations CPM. The network software uses statistical analyses to generate those RADCON levels. Those color coded RADCON level symbols are the easiest way for newbies in radiation to read NETC, as you already know. Thanks again!

          Side note to all: The owner of NETC (Harlan) welcomes any questions or comments about the network on their forum listed below or through email at staff@netc.com

          https://www.netc.com/bb/index.php?sid=61a547cec4cacc1e2b76437c0a499d81


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  • Jebus

    The data? wait for it…

    Colorado scientists studying Fukushima radiation risks

    FORT COLLINS — Radiation scientists at Colorado State University are the first representatives of an American university to have entered the shuttered exclusion zone surrounding the disabled Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant in Japan to collect samples of soil and plant material for analysis of radioactivity.

    http://www.denverijournal.com/article.php?id=9714

    Seventy years of manmade cancer and we are still wondering.

    Have to wait and see if denial can be taught…


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    • Jebus

      Georg Steinhauser

      The new guy…

      New Radiochemistry Professor Arrives in January
      This month we will welcome Dr. Georg Steinhauser who comes to CSU from the Vienna University of Technology, Atominstitut in Vienna Austria where he was the head of the Radiochemistry Department. Dr. Steinhauser studied Chemistry in Austria where he also got his PhD. He has a special focus on environmental radiochemistry, but he also worked in many other disciplines in his career. This photograph shows Dr. Steinhauser in a cave on a small Greek Island in the Mediterranean Sea, where he just had excavated the bones of an ancient dwarf elephant. Dr. Steinhauser is looking forward to his new position as a professor at CSU and will be arriving this spring.

      http://www.ehs.colostate.edu/WRad/PDF/RCO_News_JAN-FEB-MAR13.pdf

      Already has drawn, one of his conclusions…

      Received: October 24, 2012; Accepted: January 24, 2013; Published: March 7, 2013

      http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0057760

      So, good luck CSU, I hope truth can shine…


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      • Jebus

        He's excited…

        “The samples we collected are precious,” said Georg Steinhauser, an assistant professor in the CSU Department of Environmental and Radiological Health Sciences and one of five people in the Fukushima investigative party. “I’d compare the material we got to moon rock in the field of planetology.”

        Brave New World…


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      • VanneV anne

        Jebus, I wonder if Dr. Steinhauser knows about the uranium mine they have planned just east of Fort Collins. He'll be his own experiment on effects of radiation.


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        • VanneV anne

          Colorado activists took on uranium giant and won — for now at least
          07/31/2012
          “FORT COLLINS — When Canadian-based Powertech decided to explore a vast bed of buried uranium near the tiny Weld County town of Nunn in 2007, it expected to revive an industry key to refueling nuclear power in America.
          “It did not expect to stir a diverse and savvy group of locals who may have scuttled the company's designs for uranium exploration in northern Colorado for good.
          "’We had Ph.D.s in biology, political science and other highly technical and professional fields who were willing to put their professional credentials on the line to stop this,’ said Jackie Adolph, who worked as a spokeswoman for Citizens Against Resource Destruction.
          “CARD formed in April 2007 not long after Powertech said it wanted to produce 700,000 pounds of U308 uranium ore a year at its Centennial project, about 15 miles northeast of Fort Collins between Wellington and Nunn. At the time, uranium was at a premium since it was a key fuel for nuclear power plants….”
          http://www.denverpost.com/ci_21195710/local-activists-took-uranium-giant-and-won-now


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  • newsblackoutUSA newsblackoutUSA

    The world has been breathing hot particles for 2.8 years
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0265931X11002992
    Analyses of 131I, 137Cs and 134Cs in airborne aerosols were carried out in daily samples in Vilnius, Lithuania after the Fukushima accident during the period of March–April, 2011. The activity concentrations of 131I and 137Cs ranged from 12 μBq/m3 and 1.4 μBq/m3 to 3700 μBq/m3 and 1040 μBq/m3, respectively.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCS8cyZ36w8
    Proof of SPF4 Fire in 2011


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  • VanneV anne

    “…After they enter the body, these elements – called internal emitters – migrate to specific organs such as the thyroid, liver, bone, and brain, where they continuously irradiate small volumes of cells with high doses of alpha, beta and/or gamma radiation, and over many years, can induce uncontrolled cell replication – that is, cancer. Further, many of the nuclides remain radioactive in the environment for generations, and ultimately will cause increased incidences of cancer and genetic diseases over time.
    “The grave effects of internal emitters are of the most profound concern at Fukushima….”
    http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2011/apr/11/nuclear-apologists-radiation


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  • Jebus

    TY anne,

    -Pu-243-

    oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi oi

    See me blow out of the sunset
    On your geiger screen
    Out for anything I can nyet
    If you know what I mean
    Heart to the left of me
    Lung to the to the right
    Ain't got no gun
    got no knife
    But, I'll decay your life

    (Chorus)
    Cos I'm
    Pu-243
    Pu-243
    No, I'm not alright (oi oi oi)
    Pu-243
    Who's next for blight (oi oi oi)
    Pu-243
    I'm an invisible-load (oi oi oi)
    Pu-243.
    Watch your food

    I'm dirty, unseen and mighty ungreen
    I'm a cancer in a can
    Public ELE Number One
    Understand
    So suit up your daughter
    Give your mask to your wife
    Tape up your back door
    And fear for your life
    The plume is over town
    I'm all over the the ground

    (Chorus)

    (Guitar Solo)

    Pu-243. oi oi oi
    Pu-243. oi oi oi
    Pu-243. oi oi oi
    Pu-243. oi oi oi

    Pu-243
    No, I'm not alright (oi oi oi)
    Pu-243
    Who's next for blight (oi oi oi)
    Pu-243
    I'm an invisible-load (oi oi oi)
    Pu-243.
    Watch your food


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  • Socrates

    I debated pro-nuke trolls over at HuffPo for two years. I looked at their profiles for pre-Fukushima posts. Sure enough, warnings about possible nuclear meltdowns were dismissed out of hand during 2010. When confronted with their erroneus predictions of absolute safety of NPPs, they simply ignored it. They get paid by the comment. The trolls scoffed at fuel fleas or hot particles saying that heavy metals fall straight down. They refused to acknowledge aerosolization. Measurements in Europe just showed how sensitive instrumentation had become, but no health risk existed. Bucky balls are dismissed as well despite research by UC Davis. Just like eating a banana or a day at the beach. At worst an annual chest x-ray.

    Enenews is like another universe.

    Our own government agrees with these trolls essentially. Nuclear is the answer to climate change they argue. It relieves our dependence on foreign oil, etc. Government consensus is their idea of science. WHO says it is safe and so does the other international nuclear promoter organizations.

    I wonder if these claims will persist. No one died at Fukushima they say…


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    • J.

      To see how it's done, read this:

      http://journalof911studies.com/resources/2013McMurtryVol35Feb.pdf

      It's very simple.

      Just remove all the relevant facts from the discussion, and call those who present facts names.

      The time may come when these tactics fail. It all depends on an open Internet and education.


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    • Yeah, the pro-nuke trolls have been actively engaged across the internet (and with LtEs, fluff pieces for propaganda TV, etc.) ever since they came up with their whole "Nuclear Renaissance" idea.

      I was amazed at how many of them (beginning on 3/11/11) were still harping on the ridiculous lies forwarded since TMI and Chernobyl, denying things so basic as the production of hydrogen in melting reactors and even the fact that radioactive contamination travels in plumes according to where the wind is blowing. It would be funny if it weren't so ugly, but they did end up having to let loose of certain facts they'd held classified for decades. Almost as if Fukushima was one huge display for the entire world of just how horrible this technology truly is. It sure as heck impressed the hell out of me, just kept on getting worse and worse. Nobody's paying real attention to their lies anymore. That's a good thing.


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      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Disagree as we here at enenews are still the minority and we are way ahead in the knowledge curve and based in the US citizen reaction to the Fukushima crisis 2.5 years ago that may not change until people start dropping dead like flies around them.


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    • i admire you skills and stamina to take on these nukers…
      have you have read Dr.Helen Caldicott' book…"The New Nuclear Danger…George W. Bush's Military Industrial Complex"….

      you were in a snake pit with all the outcomes already determined…
      zero possibility of success against hard cold cash…

      nontheless…you know what you're doing!


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  • timemachine2020 timemachine2020

    Must see video. Proof that unit 3 and 4 sfp have burned up.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu6BhsZyv1w


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  • Sol Man

    I will give information here that MAY help to pass a hot particle through one's GI tract more quickly. I was kicked out of the community garden here for not having rows of plants with nothing growing in between. My entire area was an experiment with the abundance of gaia, and abundant she was. In between the rows that I did plant grew purslane, mallow, dandelion, some thistles, etc. all of which are edible and I did harvest for my meals. Of particular was mallow, with its mucilaginous quality that is very user friendly for the GI tract and all of the mucus membranes of the body. Mallow's quality of being able to lubricate the passage of food and speed its transverse time through the body may be what is needed to get rid of hot particles most quickly out of the body. This is what logic tells me. I eat quite a bit of mallow and other mucilages for exactly this purpose. Verify and experiment! What do you have to lose! I know, hot particles!

    Now here are other mucilages that you may try from from H. Santillo's, N.D., book, Natural Healing with Herbs: Agar agar, Chickweed, Comfrey root, Flax seed, Lungwort, Marshmallow root, Mullein, Okra, Slippery elm.

    I am no longer a member of the community garden because of my rogue ways, but I hope that my experimentation may be a source of some help to you.

    This practice MAY only help for particles from food or beverage. I have no ideas what can be done on particles that enter by breathing.


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  • Inkuisit Inkuisit

    Sol Man, your rogue community garden outcast endeavors and your cultivation of Gaia are commendable.

    You wrote:

    *…what can be done on particles that enter by breathing.*

    Expectorants, e.g., Guaifenesin? (To use for eternity?) It only seems to work mildly for a couple of days against my respiratory congestions.

    Better not to breathe in anything radioactive in the first place, at least any particles or droplets that might not immediately breathe out again, not that gases like Krypton, Radon and Xenon are innocent but this thread is inhaled particles not getting exhaled.

    Hospital alternative might still be lung irrigation / rinsing, one lung at a time. Exceedingly uncomfortable, supposedly. Used on some exposed nuke workers years ago, and probably still.

    Maybe they're on to something, after all, wearing those useless disposable nuisance dust masks in public across Asia. Can't hurt much; might help a little, for larger dust particles if not for gases or viruses. Some disposable face mask respirators are rated fairly high, assuming a tight seal around them if that's possible. Some selectively adsorb bad gases.

    And they're virtually a fashion accessory, confounding uninvited facial recognition.

    Note to self: Buy stock in disposable nuisance dust masks. (To use for eternity?)


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