Radioactive Iodine-131 in rainwater sample near San Francisco 18,000% above federal drinking water standard

Published: March 31st, 2011 at 6:33 pm ET
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UPDATE: NY Times contributor confirms California rainwater 181 times above drinking water standards for radioactive iodine-131

UPDATE II: Nuclear policy expert: “Striking” that radioactive iodine-131 in California rainwater is so far above level permitted in drinking water


UCB Rain Water Sampling Results, University of California, Berkeley, Department of Nuclear Engineering:

Iodine-131 level in rainwater sample taken on the roof of Etcheverry Hall on UC Berkeley campus, March 23, 2011 from 9:06-18:00 PDT

20.1 Becquerel per liter (Bq/L) = 543 Picocuries per liter (pCi/L) — Conversion calculator here.

The federal drinking water standard for Iodine-131 is 3 pCi/L. (Press Release)

Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry for Iodine, CDC, April 2004:

EPA has set an average annual drinking water limit of 3 pCi/L for Iodine-131 so the public radiation dose will not exceed 4 millirem

UCB Rain Water Sampling Results here.

UCB Rain Water Sampling Results

See also: Comparisons with X-rays and CT scans “meaningless” — Inhaling particles increases radiation exposure by “a factor of a trillion” says expert

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94 comments to Radioactive Iodine-131 in rainwater sample near San Francisco 18,000% above federal drinking water standard

  • I am trying to find out more about this subject. Is the bq/l the same as a reading of just plain old bq?

    I found online converters that convert bq readings to pCi, but it does not incude the liter option.. Is this the same thing, whether measured in water or not?


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  • Please reply at;
    http://www.care2.com/c2c/groups/disc.html?gpp=29584&pst=1496098&saved=1 :)

    Thanks

    We have to take care of each other, because most of these experts seem to just parrot one thing, no matter what the dose is; ‘harmless’ and ‘safe’…


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  • Dan S

    If the standard is set so low why did they even bother setting a standard? Isn’t radionuclide inside a body much more damaging than one in the air? If it’s in the rain it’s in the air – that we breath. If it’s in the rain it will be in the food and then in us. Have you heard the phrase “World Wide Famine”. Cancer research funding will get a hefty boost.


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  • When it comes to poisoning the populace with water, the illuminati have along experiene.
    From PET bottles …
    http://global-genocide.blogspot.com/

    … to iodine, the difference is this time they will not take their time.


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  • dontworyy

    Don’t worry, just raise the standards to meet the new level. Then there is nothing to worry about. Gov does it all the time. Remember the safe air at ground zero EPA said was safe……


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  • Why isn’t the EPA warning people in the Southwest who collect rainwater that its unsafe for drinking?

    This is a common way of getting water in many places, not just northern NM where I live but also AZ, CO, and Hawaii. Around here maybe 10% of households get some drinking water from rainwater and many of the wells are shallow and near creeks or washes, prime candidates for quick contamination.

    The EPA just doesn’t want to warn the public of the danger, it would look bad for Obama and the nuclear industry in the USA. They’d rather throw a few thousand new cancers to rural America.


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  • Wait a second, why isn’t this all over the news? Oh wait, yeah because they don’t care at all about peoples’ lives. Seriously though 18,100%?!?!? I live in So-Cal so I’m pretty worried about what the airborne levels will be/are currently. I don’t get my drinking water from rain but this is still a major concern and it should be for anyone in the western region of the United States.


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  • Mothra

    Does anyone else find this continual arbitrary “low/safe dose” crud infuriating? I told the SF PUC and water testing private contractor about this on Monday and provided the UC Berkeley information and a metric f@ckton of other research. I was even polite.

    They called me Erin Brocovichy. They aren’t testing our drinking water and still no word. No reply after 3 emails. I called the governor’s emergency response. I called the State water commission. I wrote my Senators and Representatives. Nada. Nothng.

    This is cumulative, ongoing for months said the IAEA. Fukushima hit record release levels today (4x Chernobyl responsible for 1 million deaths 175,000 in N. America alone according to NYAS) It takes 80 days to dissipate just the iodine the day emissions cease. I see rain is forecast for the new Fukushima load. This exposure is preventable to a large degree – children, open grazing animals. It’s criminal negligence.


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  • KelpoMama

    We’ve started taking kelp which has iodine in it. That way, it will compete with the radioactive iodine.
    Did you know that iodine also goes into the breast and prostate, not just the thyroid?
    So down the line, are we looking at a rise in thyroid, breast and prostate cancers? Hmm..?

    We have to think for ourselves and do what is right. Don’t wait for the government to protect you. Read up as much as you can on the topic and take appropriate steps. Write to your Congressmen. Get together and march against nuclear power plants! It is insane that our government believes in nuclear power plants.


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  • I just did a little digging and found this: http://water.epa.gov/drink/contaminants/index.cfm#Radionuclides which says alpha particles have a limit of 15 pCi/L. There is no listing for I-131 that I could find. Can anyone help me out with a link? I am looking for an official source since none is given in the article sourced here.


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  • PissedofAlaskan

    My Family since time immemorial has eaten salmon caught in our fish-wheel on the Tanana River, the largest of the tributaries in the Yukon river system. All this radiation from Japan is settling in the north pacific, where our lively-hood matures. So, can I sue the Japanese Nuclear Commission for all the future generations of my people?


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    • Rowan

      Iodine-131 is short lived, with a half life of only 8 days. It wont be poisoning anything for long. In addition the amount is only slightly more than one banana-equivalent dose per L. You’re essentially drinking a banana smoothie if you drink the straight rainwater.


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  • Heather

    I’m sick of the “authorities” (from universities like Berkeley to corporations like Tepco to governments like do-nothing Obama) expecting the citizens of the U.S. to make sense of the welter of different radiation measurements, claims, and counterclaims. It’s less than an X-Ray! It’s 1000% over the safe limit! KCUF these people. Just give me some truth. All I want is the truth!


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  • Just checked and today’s radiation is over 200% above the EPAs listed dose of alpha particles in water that I found (today’s reading is around 42 pCi/L).

    Can anyone confirm the figure of 3 pCi/L? If so that would be a much bigger deal and I’d like to see that source (official) ASAP!!!


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    • xdrfox

      Gross alpha
      Alpha particles are a type of ionizing radiation ejected by the nuclei of some unstable

      atoms. They are typically emitted from the elements uranium, radium, plutonium and

      thorium. The MCLG (federally recognized public health goal) for alpha particles is ZERO,

      however the legal limit (MCL) is set at 15 pCi/L (picocuries per liter). The EPA instructs

      water systems to “subtract” uranium from its “gross alpha” readings before they ae

      reported to you on an annual water quality report. This searchable database includes all

      results where Gross Alpha was reported in excess of 3.00 pCi/L

      Gross beta
      Beta particles are another form of ionizing radiation. They are smaller in size than alpha

      particles but can penetrate deeper into the body if consumed. The EPA says, “It is their

      excess energy, in the form of speed, that causes harm to living cells. When transferred,

      this energy can break chemical bonds and form ions.” Some examples of the different types

      of elements that give off beta particles are strontium-90 and tritium. The federally

      recognized public health goal (MCLG) for beta particles is zero. However, the legal limit

      (MCL) is set at 50 pCi/L (picocuries per liter). This searchable database includes all

      results where gross beta was reported in excess of 4.00 pCi/L.

      Uranium
      Uranium is a naturally-occurring radioactive element and can be enriched to make nuclear

      weapons. All uranium isotopes are radioactive. The main use of uranium in the civilian

      sector is to fuel commercial nuclear power plants, where fuel is typically enriched.

      People who live near federal government facilities that made or tested nuclear weapons, or

      facilities that mine or process uranium ore or enrich uranium for reactor fuel, may have

      increased exposure to uranium. The EPA states, “Since uranium tends to concentrate in

      specific locations in the body, risk of cancer of the bone, liver cancer, and blood

      diseases (such as leukemia) are increased. Inhaled uranium increases the risk of lung

      cancer.” Uranium is also toxic to the kidneys, as it’s also considered a toxic metal. The

      federally recognized public health goal (MCLG) for uranium is zero. However, the legal

      limit (MCL) is set at 30 mg/L (micrograms per liter).

      Radium
      Radium is a naturally-occurring radioactive metal. Its most common isotopes are radium-

      226, radium 224 and radium-228. Radium is a radionuclide formed by the decay of uranium

      and thorium in the environment. The EPA does not currently test for radium 224. The

      federally recognized public health goal (MCLG) for radium is zero. However, the legal

      limit (MCL) for all types of radium “combined” is set at 5 pCi/L (picocuries per liter).

      The alpha radiation from radium is included in the gross alpha reading as described above.

      This searchable database includes all results where radium 228 was measured in excess of

      1.00 pCi/L.

      Facts you should know
      The above is a TCEQ database of every raw radiation test result for every water system in

      Texas, dating back to 2004. However, KHOU-TV has discovered that for decades the Texas

      Commission on Environmental Quality has under-reported many of these radiation readings to

      utilities and their communities. This under-reporting took place for all radioactive

      contaminants in drinking water (known as radionuclides) and did not stop until 2009, after

      an EPA audit. Hence, the above raw readings may not match those found in the annual water

      quality report, called a Consumer Confidence Report, you receive from your water company.

      In addition, you may actually have more alpha activity….
      http://www.khou.com/news/texas-drinking-water-radiation-levels


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  • Farm raised salmon is fed krill, which is caught in the Pacific. All of the radioactive materials are going into an ocean that circulates around the globe, so it will not stay near Japan. Where the currents go, there goes the radiation and toxic materials with it. Fish swim and migrate too, so many more will be exposed than we think.

    If everyone sued in civil court that was harmed, I think nuclear power would be dead, if any judges ruled in favor of people. Small claims court actions are also possible?

    This industry as well as other carbon based industries do not pay for cleaning up the mess they make, and then blame renewables for all of our problems, while at the same time collecting corporate welfare.

    GE paid no taxes last year, made 14 BILLION in profits, and collects 3 BILLION in corporate welfare, while outsourcing US jobs overseas… Great job.. And this is just one of them.. There are LOTS of other examples. Guess who supplied the nuclear reactors in Japan, that are now melting down?


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  • http://doctorapsley.com/RadiationTherapy.aspx

    What do you get out of this material? This is a guy who has lots of facts about low dose radiation, and how it is actually worse than a single high dose…


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  • sean

    People you dont get how bad this really is, there is enough nuclear fissle material in those reactors to kill every man woman and child on the face of the earth ten thousand times… now do you understand… and i mean kill them in less than a month….


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  • Sean, this is indeed the worst nuclear disaster in human history. This has surpassed Chernobyl by a leap and a bound. It is absolutely insane and criminal that government agencies are being complicit in this world-wide cover-up of the dangers of radiation. How do people not understand that internalizing a radioactive isotope is NOT the same as background radiation or epidermal exposure. In fact it is many thousands time worse. We have a layer of dead cells on our epidermis that protects against the extremely weak background radiation, and even against stronger radiation as well. However, when you internalize a particle the decaying particle (which is what causes radiation) is microns away from cells and DNA, virtually guaranteeing a great deal of mutation (which usually leads to cancer). If a radioactive isotope is 10 feet away from you the radioactive waves have to travel that far to hit your skin which by nature offers some protection. When you breathe in an isotope that distance the rays need to travel is TINY. Therefore, the radioactive effect is INCREDIBLY more powerful. The idiots saying this is good for you or there is nothing to worry about obviously don’t understand basic nuclear physics or just physics in general. A wave loses intensity as distance increases, that is why we don’t get burnt alive by the Sun. Just think of it like the sun is an isotope, if we’re this far away there are no negative effects, now imagine if you internalized some of the sun (even a single particle) you would die a very quick and painful death. Ask any physicist and they will explain to you how this works. It is the same reason why a tsunami decreases in power as it travels from the starting point. The intensity is a function of a square of the distance. This means that a 30 feet away from you is about 7.76787736x more dangerous than one that is zero feet away. Note: I’m not a physicist, I just know a lot about QM.


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    • Barlennin

      Yes, absorbed radionucleides can remain in tissues longer and increase the cumulative effect of the radiation. But it is a massive overstatement to say the ‘mutation usually leads to cancer’. It MAY lead to cancer or simply to cell death or may be corrected with the next cell division. Cancer is only a tiny part of radiation’s effect. Also, we’re talking I131, a very short lived isotope that is routinely used for medical imaging procedures in the milicurie range (100,000 times higher than a picocurie) with no ill effect seen in literally millions of patients followed over the last 50 years or so. You palce yourself at higher cancer risk flying a commercial airliner than you do from this water.


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  • Don'tWanttoGlowintheDark!

    Does it help to wear a mask & cover any wounds?! I would do so in the Western states-maybe everywhere, for sensitive populations. Sorry to hear about the salmon and the source of so many great things like the Pacific seaweed we need to offset radioactive biological damage… stock up the freezer now????

    Not to be morbid, but I used to work with a guy whose father was very high up in DC working with Rumsfeld, FBI, CIA, etc. I just came out and asked him what was their grand plan anyway? and he told me gravely, in all seriousness, that “the plan” was population reduction.

    Noting the bizzare lack of Fed. govt. and media attn. to this worsening public health nightmare (compare this to their focus on the swine flu “epidemic”-?!), I can only assume that we have to react as if this is “the plan” in force….


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  • skizex

    georgia guidetones


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  • skizex

    guidestones, my s is dying


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  • skizex

    crappy April Fool’s, hunh?


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  • SeanMT

    “Iodine-131 level in rainwater sample taken on the roof of Etcheverry Hall on UC Berkeley campus, March 23, 2011 from 9:06-18:00 PDT”

    Okay… so what does that prove? All it means is that “rainwater” from a roof at UC Berkeley has a high amout of Iodine-131. What would a sample from before the tragedy in Japan show? How do we know this has anything to do with Japan?

    More JUNK SCIENCE from the tree huggers…


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    • Respect for Cal

      In this case the science is not being conducted by the tree huggers.

      http://www.nuc.berkeley.edu/RainWaterSampling

      It’s the profs and students in the dept. of nuclear engineering.

      UC Berkeley is the place where plutonium was first discovered and where Oppenheimer did the research that created the nuclear weapons that ended WWII.

      The school also has nuclear research labs on the hill behind campus in addition to a long standing connection with Lawrence Livermore Labs which is a UC related nuclear research facility.

      So there are many internationally respected scientists living and working here in Berkeley.


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  • For more info – massive links on nuclear radiation from the Japan crisis goto Dprogram.net – http://dprogram.net

    This site is an alternative news site and is not corporate BS


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  • aVoice

    @SeanMT:

    Since Iodine-131 is ONLY created in nuclear fission, the measurement before Japan will be zero.

    SeanMT before you call names, use your brain.

    The only good thing about Iodine-131 is that it has a half life of 8 days. In general, 10 half lives and the material will be gone.

    On the one hand, they are right when they say it has a very low risk level. What that don’t say is “as long as you don’t ingest it”. If the Iodine-131 is at a meter distance from you, the level of radiation is somewhere below a chest Xray a year. But if you ingest it, it is now at the picometer distance (1 millionth of a meter) which means the energy of the radiation is (1,000,000 times 1,000,000 or 1 trillion) times more powerful.

    I don’t know about you, not I’m not real interested in ingesting Iodine-131. But feel free my friend.

    Got Milk?


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  • Here is another pissed off grieving Alaskan. Born and raised here in the purest most wonderful place on earth and now—THIS! Compared to all other disasters on earth , this is the worst short of an asteroid hitting the planet–and even that one some of us at least could escape in time, somewhere,, maybe. BUt radioactivity is POISON pure and simple,.lasting forever and destreoying not just us, but everythign we depend on. Its criminal, and if we want to poison ourselves , so be it, but what about the effect on all the ANIMALS OUT THERE?>Nobody gives a shit about them! Without them–from the bacteria to the insects to the big animals we are not only cutting our own throats eventually but doing a gross criminal offense to the creator who had the foresight to tell Noah to put them on the ARK–or why would he have saved them from the flood all you Christian believers out there? He saved them from nasty mankind, that is who! –he made them and saved them for a reason! All we ever think about is our own comfort, greed and we are totally sold out to the corporations of the world, with the governments (meaning we ) in complicity with our heads stuck in the sand.
    What makes me so sad is that “there is nothing we can do about it” because I was told–its private property! THey have to ask us first for help! WHy is this not 10,000 times more important than LIbya to intervene for and jump in and avoid world wide human massacre i?? Its not just one country we are talking about, United Nations, its the whole world.! There should be an international law outlawing anything nuclear, or at least governing it, reagardless what country its in , and all disasters and reckless activity treated like a war crime !
    As I speak th4=e snow is falling. Is it filled with radioactvity? I have to g out and feed my cows now. What about them? The newscasters are talking about a cobra in new york and the ads are showing the latest makeup you can buy from Wal Mart.
    Such are our priorities! Denial! Laziness. Insane!


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  • Does anybody seriously believe that protesting in any form will change anything? The French revolution showed us the only way – off with their heads.


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    • j r

      Bill, Right fucking on!


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    • FOXC56

      I totally agree with you Bill. If we don’t act now, and start lobbing heads for real, in a months time we will all be so weak and sick, we won’t even be able to wipe our own asses much lest put up any kind of fight to take our enemy out.
      I know and feel in my heart this crap from Japan is going to sicken/kill almost all of us in very short time, and the sad thing about it is, we can’t get away from it. It’s in the soil, water, food, air, coming in to the US every day and it just keeps coming and getting worse.
      In my opinion,and my opinion only… we are all ratphucked to the max,and I for one am not going down without a fight.
      I sincerely hope I am wrong about this rant, but I doubt there will ever be a ‘good fairy’ show up and make things better. I am already locked and loaded just waiting for the call to open fire, then bitchslap the next person that tells me not to worry, that all is well. I’ve got a little more than just a bar of soap to shove down a liar’s throat.


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  • DRUMMER DAVE

    The Nuclear Radio MAN !
    POINTS HIS Sky Writers !
    TO Impact Revisions !
    A Tragic Rendition !
    The Spheric Condition !
    ……MASSIVE Transistions !
    A Conjested Prediction !
    Hiding In Politicians !
    FUKASHIMA RADIOLOGIC NUCLEAR Transmissions!
    Sent To SREAD
    A DEADLY DEATH !

    Have you checked the water
    You can drink from the Lakes YET?

    His Phone is Still Ringing…..
    Now He Is Pretending !
    IT”S Not a Nuclear Threat !
    Till All The Land Gets WET !

    NOW Some will Run…
    AND Some will Hide…

    And Some Come Out OF IT !
    Slightly Fried !
    And Burned All OVER !
    From The Inside !


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  • DRUMMER DAVE

    This Is Serious! They should stop ALL WAR! and get Troops There FOR Humanitarian Support! NOW! Let doctors No Borders In Everybody JUMP IN!


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  • arnaud

    hi,
    the maximum ingestion value for iodine is : 9E5 Bq = 900 000 Bq (reference : international commission of radioprotection) – that means, if you incorporate 900 000 Bq of iodine, the correspondant dose will be 20mSv (wich is important)
    So if the contamination is 50 Bq/l, you will get a dose of : (20x50X20)/900 000 = 0,02mSV if you drink 20 liters (wich is few but not nothing)
    arnaud (from France)


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  • halfhill

    I am furious with the Japanese bastards who bring the disaster to the whole world. This crisis, although triggered by the Tsunami, but was a result of irresponsibility, coverup and stupidity of the Japanese government. The Tokyo Power Co has a record of lying and manipulating the safety record. To save money, it hired unexperienced and unskilled workers to work on the critical environment. Even after the power plants were hit, it and the Japanese government tried to cover up and did not act fast enough to contain the problem at the risk of the whole world.
    It is the common people, you and me, and our children who will suffer from it.
    Let’s sue the Japan government. Let it pay back for the mess it created!
    We need to get justice from those lowly lives.


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  • Matt

    Does anybody know of any upcoming anti nuclear/pro clean energy protests or demonstrations coming up? It seems like now would be a good time, strike while the iron is hot and all that. But I never seem to hear about these things until afterwords. I’m sure there are enough pissed off people right now to make an impressive crowd around state capitols.


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  • Dave Mundy

    That’s right halfhill, those stupid Japanese bastards caused that earthquake!
    Let’s nuke ‘em, that’ll teach ‘em!


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  • Chris B

    Isn’t conservatism wonderful?


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  • Elaine

    I guess it was “too good” of a “dream come true” to think I could have my grandchild come into this world unaffected.
    God help each and every one of us.
    Good bye. April, I’m sorry you think I’m over-reacting.
    There is no CHEST XRAY comparible to Radio-active Isotopes settling into your bone marrow and killing off your stem cells.
    You just can’t compare the two.
    I will love you and your baby whether from this side or on the other.


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  • * Uranium 238: 4.5 billion years
    * Uranium 235: 710 million years
    * Plutonium 239: 24,100 years
    * Strontium 90: 30 years
    * Caesium 134: two years
    * Caesium 137: 30 years (Caesium can be absorbed in food and water or inhaled as dust. It is easily taken up by plants and animals.)
    * Ruthenium 103: 39 days; Ruthenium 106, about a year
    * Iodine 131: 8 days

    plus a dozen other radionuclides even more toxic. Now the news is spewing the half-truth that you get more radiation from the Sun than from these particle emitters. That’s accurate, but what they fail to mention is that the SUN provides NON-IONIZING RADIATION (which is good for you and you need it, as does all life on Earth) and these particles are IONIZING RADIATION, which causes cancers, cellular disruption, and DNA damage.

    http://wantsun.blogspot.com/


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  • golightly

    Suing Japan is absurd if you don’t live to see the outcome. The most important thing is to stop anyone from building another power plant like these. Plus, we should see to shutting down the ones that are still going.


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  • Tom

    It’s scary how the government is willing to cover-up and let the citizens get sick over time. This will circle the globe. More at http://www.infowars.com


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  • Let’s clean up the planet, and get rid of this dangerous stuff now.


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    • Xavier Onassis

      Billions of people have been wanting, and millions of people have been working – to do just that for a long time.

      Tell me – how are you going to do it while there are people having an amount of wealthpower that is larger enough in proportion to yours it allows them to buy governments… write the laws… advantage their own lethal enterprises… prevent the switch to cleaner renewables… the overwealth overpower to own the media, set the parameters of discussion… giving them the power to make belief… broadcast lies, omit what they want… endless list of the evils economic inequality guarantees goes here…

      It’s a perfectly reality-based question. How do you fix anything when some people are allowed to possess the kind of personal fortunes that trump your chances of success every time?


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  • 1776

    chemtrails will make it all better time to wake up fools what u going to do bout it nothing but talk shit rally up


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  • sonbird

    We got so many crooks in congress they forgot how to run the country .. Its really bad when they are so greedy for power and money and their offices of money grubbing life has gotten in the way of the world ! They just want their safe havens and anything about us is far from their mines ! Their goals are to confuse us and dived us and get us to fight each other .. or fight Mexicans while the US banks take 384 billion from them ! Ice goes in to kill them ! or while we fear the Middle East people they are killing for oil ..Makes you think they don’t need us !


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  • Lila

    I heard Dandelion Root is good for protecting the thyroid if you can’t get Potassium Iodide. I’m going to pick some up tomorrow.


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  • Eric S. Harris

    More questions than answers. I wonder which of those questions the reporter had answers to, but neglected to include?

    So, what was the average level in rain water at that location in the months prior to the earthquake and tsunami? Were there seasonal or random variations in the level? Was there a overall trend line?

    What about other locations up and down the coast, and inland from the coast? Any pattern in the levels, or in the dates of variations?

    I expect that the data would show that there was an abrupt increase a short while after the earthquake and tsunami, and that the closer a place was (via the path of prevailing winds) the sooner and greater the increase. And I bet a lot of people share that hunch.

    Shouldn’t we, when we can, use more than hunches when making important decisions?

    I know. That’s just crazy talk.


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  • NadePaulKuciGravMcKi

    internal emitters for everyone
    uncontrolled and uncontained

    profiteers and parasites
    protecting the guilty
    both corrupt parties


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  • d

    So each liter of water is about as harmful as a banana?


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  • It is time to find out that following MONEY is following a lie because they cannot tell the truth, it is against MONEY to do so. Even if lives perish MONEY must serve MONEY. This is the smallest of points overlooked that will render all the “OFFICIAL INTERPRETATIONS” meaningless. Get ready for the wild ride!!!!!!!!!!!


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    • Kat

      You’re exactly right. Money is the root of all evil, and we’re seeing this play out in the way the so called “experts” and bureaucrats and media are scrambling around to scrape together reassurances and promises, bent on concealing the truth from the public, just to protect the Almighty Dollar.


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      • Xavier Onassis

        Money is not the root of all evil.

        The love of money is also not the root of all evil.

        The love of having other-earned money is the root of all evil.

        Money is symbolic wealth you exchange for substantial wealth (workproducts, goods and services). So money is your shelter, food, medicine, education, etc – money is a joker good, good for all your needs and most of your wants.

        Having self-earned money is all good – - it’s as good as eating the vegetables you grew yourself – it’s you consuming what you produce. The love of having self-earned wealth is just and does no harm.

        The love of having other-earned money is all bad. Having other-earned money is all bad because it is theft, it is you consuming what another produced leaving him to produce more than he is allowed to consume. Every theft comes with an angry person attached. Theft is injustice, injustice is retaliated. Taking money off others drives violence that gets to everyone.

        People not making the distinction is how we got into all the mess in the first place.

        Nuclear pollution is here because people are allowed to go after other-earned wealth – and the least scrupulous do not care who dies while they go all out after as much other-wealth as they can get their hands on.

        Having other-earned wealth is legal on Earth.

        If personal fortunes had in past been restricted to self-earned money, humans would be living in a sustainable golden age of peace and plenty for all.

        But nobody wants to hear the incontrovertible truth and good sense of this, i know, i know.


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    • k

      “Get ready for the wild ride!!!!!!!!!!!”

      lol… thats the spirit… sad but true.
      Get ready for the wild ride!!!!!!!!!!!
      Get ready for the wild ride!!!!!!!!!!!
      Get ready for the wild ride!!!!!!!!!!!
      Get ready for the wild ride!!!!!!!!!!!Get ready for the wild ride!!!!!!!!!!!Get ready for the wild ride!!!!!!!!!!!Get ready for the wild ride!!!!!!!!!!!Get ready for the wild ride!!!!!!!!!!!


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  • Xavier Onassis

    Can anybody see it? Saying money is the root of all evil makes good people think they should hate money – - which just lets the baddies keep on taking everyone’s money.


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  • Xavier Onassis

    Our epitaph will be:

    Here lies Humanity.

    They thought they could pick and choose which parts of reality they would face and they continued straining gnats whilst swallowing camels to their bitter end.


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