CBC: Radioactive particles arrive ‘far earlier than predicted’ for N. America — Mag: ‘Plumes stretch 4,800 miles across ocean!’ — Experts: There’s great alarm… Legitimate concern… Expected to dilute, but don’t really know — US Govt: ‘Monitoring beaches for debris from Fukushima nuclear disaster’ (VIDEO)

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CBC News, Feb 26, 2014: Radiation from Japan’s Fukushima nuclear disaster reached Canada’s west coast last June, far earlier than expected. [...] Interestingly, the signal arrived far earlier than predicted by scientific models of ocean currents — two years earlier in the case of one model. Smith said he thinks that may be because the radioactivity released by Fukushima wasn’t just discharged straight into the ocean. Some was blown up into the atmosphere and was carried east before falling into the ocean ahead of the “plume” released straight into the water. “In other words, it gave the plume a bit of head start across the Pacific,” said [John] Smith, a chemical oceanographer […] some radiation was reported detected in Alaska last November.

The Week, Feb. 27, 2014: Three years after the nuclear meltdown in Fukushima, we’re pretty sure a radioactive plume just finished crossing the dang Pacific Ocean. Luckily, the radioactive cesium is so diluted by this point that it poses no danger (so far anyway). But nuclear meltdowns freak people out, and for good reason. The hazards are obvious and easy to understand: Invisible poison! Cancer! Mutation! Early, painful death! And, it turns out, radioactive plumes stretching 4,800 miles across the ocean!

CBC News, Feb 26, 2014: “I think it’s important to get measurements, and since the governments aren’t doing it, we thought the public has a large concern we’d ask them help collect and fund the sampling,” said Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute researcher Ken Buesseler. [...] “There’s a great alarm, when you don’t know. People can speculate all kinds of things”

KPCC, Feb. 24, 2014: Ocean’s so big, they expect it to dilute, but they don’t really know for sure.

Bay Nature, Feb. 27, 2014: [National Park Service ecologist Sarah Allen:] The parks are monitoring their beaches for debris from the Fukushima nuclear disaster and submitting that data to NOAA (the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration)

CBS 8, Feb. 25, 2014: Still, there are legitimate concerns about radiation arriving on the west coast from the March 2011 Fukushima Disaster in Japan. […] “Personally, I don’t think we are going to see things of a dangerous level. I don’t know that, but that’s is the belief going in. But it’s likely we will be able to detect it,” [San Diego State Biology Professor Matthew Edwards] added.

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  • chevvvy chev

    I would prefer diluted carnivores!


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    • Flapdoodle Flapdoodle

      Really. A concentrated plume of carnivores would be very scary. But not to worry. Monitoring would be in place.


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      • Emmanuel Truthseeker Emmanuel Truthseeker

        And they do dilute in all of that water, after all. By the time those carnivores get to the west coast they will be all spread out. Nothing to worry about. What? What about all those other carnivores behind these first ones; and increasing exponentially? Oh, don't worry about that. We'll figure it out.


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      • wildandfree wildandfree

        Not to worry, we are doing extensive modding and know exactly how many carnivores are collected and we know we believe that we think that the dilution solution will work as the carnivores are smaller than some believe however we are continuing to monitor as people are more concerned by tigers and bears as we to this point are not watching for the lions as they we think will not be in concentrations enough to pose problems except for those few unlucky dinners who're are on the edge. We continue to believe that we are doing everything to be able to report following extensive research that lions will continue to pose no threat although we are concerned that lions from New Mexico may be or could be mixing with the lions from foreign nations and our modules do not take this into account.

        I am so glad that we continue to know for sure that we think we have nothing to worry about! I personally am tired of this game of "hide" don't seek.


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  • James Tekton James Tekton

    Harumpth…ah…now that all the animals are dead in the ocean, and most of the humans on the west coast are almost dead also, we just thought we would let you know that the radiation poisons and very deadly contamination arrived here many years ago. We just forgot to tell you.

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  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

    So the public should collect and pay to have 200 million dollar budgeted Woods Hole to test it? Because the public is so paranoid they will just speculate all kinds of things. Were still waiting for those tests on sea lions, walrus, sea stars, birds oyster and fish that are washing up dead….


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  • Sol Man

    Conditions have been created where no living creature can exist; the dna structure can not be maintained.


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  • or-well

    There is no dilution, only DISTRIBUTION.
    Only decay makes rads go away.
    Smile – today is radioactive. Thanks, Nukists.


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  • Cisco Cisco

    Two heavy rain events with the second rolling in today over California will bring heavy rain and the good possibility of radioactive fallout from 1. the jet stream, and 2. ocean evaporation. Keep on eye on radiation monitors and reports of regional hot particle deposition.

    This event could be very revealing.


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  • earthsmith

    "Interestingly,…luckily ,..dang,…not really sure,…I dont know,…should be"…????????????? Sounds like……wait drum roll please….dim experts again.


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  • FallOut FallOut

    However, food grown and animals grazed in contaminated regions will pass along radiation to human populations for centuries. The Japanese reliance on fish will soon produce another shock to their nation as larger fish absorb more radioactive particles up the food chain.

    Dr. Bandazhevsky has placed hard numbers on the dangers of internal contamination from radiation, “Chronic Cs-137 levels over 30 Bq/kg body weight is often associated with serious cardiovascular diseases 2.” For children with cesium 137 in excess of 50 Becquerels/kg body weight, “pathological disorders of the vital organs or systems will occur 3.” These levels can produce grotesque malformations in newborn babies and increase the risk of spontaneous abortions.

    How much radiation is Japan bathed in right now?

    Nature magazine online reported that soil 40km northwest of the plant contained, “Cesium-137 levels of 163,000 becquerels per kilogram (Bq/kg) and iodine-131 levels of 1,170,000 Bq/kg, according to Japan’s science ministry 5.”

    Plutonium, the most toxic substance on earth, has been detected at eight different monitoring stations in Korea.

    http://joegiambrone.wordpress.com/radiation/


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  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Since it's been leaking for three straight years, I think accumulation on the beaches is to be expected. It's not really a plume, it's a river.


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  • tsfw tsfw

    How many times are they going to say that the man with the geiger was picking up rad in the sand…is that why the numbers were increasing as he approached the water? I knew humans were a ridiculous species, but the past 2+ years has shown me just how stupid most people are. Stupidity is not about how extensive your vocabulary is, it's not the degrees one has acquired through hours of memorization. Stupidity is believing horse shit so that your perfect little life doesn't have to change too much. Stupidity is mocking your friends because they know something you don't understand. Too many adults need to grow the fuck up. That's all, have a nice day. So sick of it all!!!!!!!


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      • tsfw tsfw

        Thanks amibo :) and right back atcha. I'm frustrated with it all, I want my kids out of BC more than anything, they send pictures of themselves snowboarding and I so badly want to be happy for them but all it does is make me worry. In a few months it will be photos of them surfing. What do I do? I want to go drag them by their ears, but at their age, I'd lose that one. According to them, nobody there is talking about the sea stars, scallops, oysters, sardines etc..
        BC of all places- the land of the environmental hippies. All the buzz about the pipeline and nobody is hearing about anything else.


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        • bo bo

          Amibo…I like that :)

          I do hope your kids in BC wake up soon.. that must be so difficult as a mither :(


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        • 4Yahshua

          3~1~5995 (out of 6000) Sabbath in this "Twilight Zone Apocalypse"!

          tsfw,I know just what you mean! My elderly husband does not use the Web. So, sometimes I think he believes me about Fukushima and other times not. Often he believes what the MSM puts out. The other night he told me how NBC's Brian Williams said the radiation coming a few months from now (Why do they keep saying that?)will be very little to worry about. Right afterwards I sent Brian Williams an e-mail with the header:"Earth to Brian Williams!" I should have also written, "Fukushima is Calling!" At other times, my hubby tells me to purchase a Geiger counter. I know that this can be helpful. However, for me, it would just mean MORE stressing about this. I rather be MORE mindful of ingesting things that will fight and eliminate the radiation from my body. Also, having my faith in the RIGHT place is most important!
          We are also watching more nature programs on TV. I read that seeing nature is like being there. Our bodies do not know the difference. How long will these beautiful creations be with us??


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    • Sol Man

      Can't be humans; must be a corporation or agency.


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    • demise

      I agree that testing kelp for cesium is a really lame test,full of holes. What about the other exotic and dangerous materials in the water and air that are pumped into the atmosphere daily in Japan in mega amounts? We need comprehensive testing on land and sea before our confidence in government is further eroded. Stop taking vacations and funding useless committees with corrupt policies and do something useful for once.


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  • tsfw tsfw

    PS thanks to each of you for being what's left of my sanity. If it weren't for ENE imagine how alone we might feel?


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  • irhologram

    "…was blown up into the atmosphere and was carried east before falling into the ocean ahead of the “plume” released straight into the water. “In other words, it gave the plume a bit of head start across the Pacific,”

    Oh, really. Head start, huh? I suppose this rain confined itself in the areas just ahead of these 11 or 12 plumes (rivers) that we've seen modeled on Ene…like albatross leading the ship's way…and this rain did not affect the entire ocean, and it did not push on across the land. Sarc.


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    • AFTERSHOCK AFTERSHOCK

      glad you caught this, irhologram. I got to thinking when I saw this, if you're going to use airborne contaminants to explain-away faulty models of ocean-borne plumes, then you must also accept that massive amounts of aerosolized contaminants – DID – make their way across that very-same ocean! Gleaning 'truth' from the so-called 'experts', is becoming somewhat of an art…


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      • Emmanuel Truthseeker Emmanuel Truthseeker

        Expert: Ex is something past, something done away with, something irrelevant and no longer in use, a former something and now a nothing. And a spurt is a drip under pressure. Hence: Expert. They dropped the s and kept it for something else, which is the word
        ; bullshit.


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        • VanneV VanneV

          expert comes from to try, to experience. Ex also means out of. There are experts who do know something. The people who have been bought off are not really experts. Our knowledge of how horrible radiation is comes from experts. It is better to not rule out all knowledge, but must be discriminating about whose truth to accept.


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          • VanneV VanneV

            ex•pert
            [n., v. ek-spurt; adj. ek-spurt, ik-spurt] Show IPA
            noun
            1.
            a person who has special skill or knowledge in some particular field; specialist; authority: a language expert.
            2.
            Military .
            a.
            the highest rating in rifle marksmanship, above that of marksman and sharpshooter.
            b.
            a person who has achieved such a rating.
            adjective
            3.
            possessing special skill or knowledge; trained by practice; skillful or skilled (often followed by in or at ): an expert driver; to be expert at driving a car.
            4.
            pertaining to, coming from, or characteristic of an expert: expert work; expert advice.
            verb (used with object)
            5.
            to act as an expert for.
            Origin:
            1325–75; Middle English (adj.) < Latin expertus, past participle of experīrī to try, experience
            http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/expert


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        • VanneV VanneV

          wisdom
          Syllabification: wis•dom
          Pronunciation: /ˈwizdəm

          /
          noun
          • 1The quality of having experience, knowledge, and good judgment; the quality of being wise.
          More example sentences
          • 1.1The soundness of an action or decision with regard to the application of experience, knowledge, and good judgment: some questioned the wisdom of building the dam so close to an active volcano
          More example sentences
          • 1.2The body of knowledge and principles that develops within a specified society or period: the traditional farming wisdom of India
          http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/wisdom


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        • VanneV VanneV

          Certainly looking at motivations is a part of sound judgement. The nuclear experts who turned whistleblowers can give more information than those still employed by the industry. Scientists such as Mousseau who studies the effects of radiation or the scientists who published papers about the consequences of Chernobyl can be trusted more than the World Health Organization which is controlled by the IAEA, the advertisers for the nuclear industry.


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          • VanneV VanneV

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            You can download the pdf for free at: http://www.strahlentelex.de/Yablokov%20Chernobyl%20book.pdf
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            Or, you can now buy a hardcover edition:
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            http://nuclearfreeplanet.org/articles/read-or-download–chernobyl–consequences-of-the-catastrophe-for-people-and-the-environment-for-free.html


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          • VanneV VanneV

            Even low-level radioactivity is damaging, scientists conclude
            “Even the very lowest levels of radiation are harmful to life, scientists have concluded, reporting the results of a wide-ranging analysis of 46 peer-reviewed studies published over the past 40 years. Variation in low-level, natural background radiation was found to have small, but highly statistically significant, negative effects on DNA as well as several measures of health.“
            http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/11/121113134224.htm


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            • VanneV VanneV

              From the same article:

              “Even the very lowest levels of radiation are harmful to life, scientists have concluded in the Cambridge Philosophical Society's journal Biological Reviews. Reporting the results of a wide-ranging analysis of 46 peer-reviewed studies published over the past 40 years, researchers from the University of South Carolina and the University of Paris-Sud found that variation in low-level, natural background radiation was found to have small, but highly statistically significant, negative effects on DNA as well as several measures of health.

              "The review is a meta-analysis of studies of locations around the globe that have very high natural background radiation as a result of the minerals in the ground there, including Ramsar, Iran, Mombasa, Kenya, Lodeve, France, and Yangjiang, China. These, and a few other geographic locations with natural background radiation that greatly exceeds normal amounts, have long drawn scientists intent on understanding the effects of radiation on life. Individual studies by themselves, however, have often only shown small effects on small populations from which conclusive statistical conclusions were difficult to draw.
              "’When you're looking at such small effect sizes, the size of the population you need to study is huge,’ said co-author Timothy Mousseau, a biologist in the College of Arts and Sciences at the University of South Carolina. ‘Pooling across multiple studies, in multiple areas, and in a rigorous…


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      • rogerthat

        Amazing. Four fully grown nuclear reactors and their spent fuel pools have been reduced to smouldering ruins. They have exploded, blown apart in at least one nuclear detonation, burnt up in zirconium fires, generated temperatures of 5000 degrees centigrade, nuclear cores of 100 tonnes apiece have been blown to kingdom come, melted down, melted through into the ground, are now washing through into the pacific ocean in an unstoppable wave of radiation that will get worse every day for 500,000 years. Spent fuel pools have caught fire, exploded, melted down. The world has been bathed in radiation for three years. In the jet stream, in the air, on land, in the ocean, in the insects and the birds and the animals and the fish and the seaweed and the plants and the crops and the people, in everything. For THREE YEARS. This is not something that may or may not happen tomorrow, or next month, or next year. It was everywhere in the northern hemisphere within three days, and getting worse, day by day for all our lifetimes and for all eternity as far as the human race is concerned.
        From Dylan, Idiot Wind:
        Idiot wind blowing every time your move your mouth
        Blowing down the backroads heading south
        Idiot wind blowing every time you move your teeth
        You're an idiot babe
        It's a wonder that you still know how to breathe …


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      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Many curtains are quickly closed and/or thrown across many stages/information portals after such events purposefully.. :(

        Always follow the money that leads to the many curtain controls…stage hands are now everywhere. :(


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      • humptydumpty

        This shows the basic problem with the word "plume" which implies a limited mess, when in fact it will be spread throughout the globe. Aerosolized contaminants, incl Plutonium, were Fuked out far and wide over the oceans and land masses. And nobody knows whether it will happen again and what the long term effects will be in their location, but undoubtedly they will be very deleterious. Equating the fallout with the water-borne river of contamination is too simplistic, but it does warn people that it has already arrived here on the North American Continent.


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  • tsfw tsfw

    Nobody cares about the suffering animals. Where are all the animal orgs? I guess they only defend and protect cute, cuddly furry creatures. Maybe they'll twig when they have to eat their dog Fifi.


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  • Sickputer

    1086 days later the "experts" report on the speed with which airborne Fukushima poisons leapfrogged the oceans. It's called the jet stream you obfuscating loonies.

    The same jet stream the US military didn't know much about when the Japanese sent flammable balloon attacks in World War II. Perplexed, the US military suspected submarines, boats, even Japanese-American collaborators.

    Because the US censored main stream news reports (an art they still use, but defeated by the Information Era) there were innocent American victims who approached a downed balloon:

    "…May 5, 1945, a pregnant woman and five children were killed when they discovered a balloon bomb that had landed in the forest of Gearhart Mountain in Southern Oregon."

    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_balloon

    SP: The leapfrogging of the ocean of Fukushima toxins via the winds was reported over a 1,000 days ago on Enenews and other Internet sources.

    Forewarned is forearmed.

    Did you make changes in your food, water, and lifestyle? A very few intelligent apes did so. Everyone who remained ignorant are certainly carefree and happy compared to the people who suspect every ice cream bar, every drop of water they bathe in and drink, every morsel of food grown in the Northern Hemisphere.

    Uninformed people are happier, but they are the most susceptible to illness because of their ignorance.

    Eagles, salmon, butterflies, starfish, sardines, seals…these living creatures have no advance…


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  • We Not They Finally

    Ive noticed over time that wealthy people who have advanced technology to deal with cancer while the rest of us just die dont get cancer and dont die of it. Would you care to speak on that my wealthy friends…That probably keeps you from worrying to much about cancer and diseases your wealth offers you a way to deal with otherwise deadly cancers…Mean whie you continue everything you can to destroy the dying middle class.


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    • Sol Man

      I am very great pain when I think of the fetuses that don't make it to term because of radiation.


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      • We Not They Finally

        Your pain may be real, but also misdirected. Think of the deformed children who DO make it into the world. Maybe you need to focus your energies on THE BORN. Souls can make it through other bodies. But once a child is BORN in a horribly deformed state, they are trapped.

        Unless you think well, GOD must have wanted that. I don't believe that. It's inhumane. And honestly, in this kind of a genetic catastrophe, the pro-lifers may be poised to cause WAY more pain than the choicers.


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        • humptydumpty

          "Every child is a blessing" they say in their twisted sense of morality, but they don't have to live in that condition nor typically do they have to care for the unfortunate ones that suffer with it. The same goes for poverty.


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    • Emmanuel Truthseeker Emmanuel Truthseeker

      Since you, We Not, have brought up the topic of cancer, I will have at it.

      The Hunza people, until the relatively recent introduction to western 'civilization', had no history of cancer or cardio vascular disease due to the fact they drank; mostly still do, water which came from deep within glaciers, and hence, not irradiated by atomic bomb tests etcetera. Their diet consisted heavily of a paste made from the inner pits of apricots; the richest source of vitamin B17; an illegal vitamin in Canada and the USA because it prevents cancer. Another good source are the seeds of apples. The core is the food, really.

      Anyway, to continue. In the 1930s, the great inventor and pathologist, Royal Raymond Rife invented the Rife Raytube with which he cured all viral diseases, including cancer. His clinics operated successfully in the USA from 1934 – 1938 when the AMA, under a creature called, Morris Fishbein, may his name live in infamy for eternity, shut him down and quashed the technology. His patents are on record; or were on record.

      Cancer is an industry which was created when we were were irradiated and 'they' who would be our rulers have made obscene profits off us ever since as we suffer and die like flies. Cancer is the new black death administered by poisoners who are lauded as honorable cancer doctors, courageously struggling against heavy odds to save us from this horror; totally ignoring the fact that their chemo therapy is just as bad, or worse.


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    • VanneV VanneV

      The wealthy die also and they aren't going to be reincarnated in a from that can live in a radioactive world. There are no life form on the sun or on earth when it was born.

      Nuclear scientists do fear radiation, even more than anyone else. It is the idiot politicians who lack knowledge of anything besides of thegold bricked money trail.


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  • Sickputer

    Good point WNTF…although the air contaminants are harder to deflect even for the wealthiest unless they stay inside like Howard Hughes.

    As I have said before and you affirm…billionaires have the best chance to survive a 60 to 99% human extinction event. Just load up the yacht with supplies and 3 years of fuel (amazing what a mere $20 million can buy) and cruise on down to their private Tonga island. Load up all the relatives, pick a few dozen more for genetic diversity and you have a 21st century Swiss Family Robinson. An island ark against human extinction.

    The survivalists will also bring a lot of guns and ammo to keep stray irradiated pirates from invading their Garden of Eden.


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    • VanneV VanneV

      They already destroyed most of the islands with above ground and high altitude nuclear bomb testing. And the radioactive ocean spray will reach the islands. And the oceans are rising and are already submerging islands. And all the fracking is causing more volcanoes and earthquakes causing the islands to sink into the ocean. A drought on an island is a hot, box of death.


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    • hbjon hbjon

      Howard was ridiculed for generations. Perhaps he knew something we didn't know. The recipe for survival will change this time around. Unlike Nazi Germany, concentration camps are no solution. We need each other and must embrace the steady state society.


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  • rogerthat

    ''Stupidity is believing horse shit so that your perfect little life doesn't have to change too much.''

    That, tsfw, gets my vote for quote of the week. Worth putting on a
    t-shirt. makes the old heart go pit-a-pat


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  • Emmanuel Truthseeker Emmanuel Truthseeker

    I believe they are moving into the crust and to the underside.


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  • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

    Why are Pacific Ocean rads so high, and so widely spread?
    Because groundwater is washing 3 underground melted cores, all 257 tonnes of nuclear fuel, right into the ocean.
    I get that TEPCO can't admit, even to themselves, that 3 reactors melted through their containment vessels, and into mother nature under the plant ruins.
    But this denial is doing terrible damage, perhaps terminal destruction, to the Pacific Ocean Ecosystem.
    We have arrived at the point where we simply cannot allow the denial, the lies, and the cover-up to continue any longer.
    TEPCO has got to admit that the 3 missing cores are no longer inside the reactors, containments, and buildings.
    TEPCO has to admit that the 3 missing cores are in the mudrock, being washed into the Pacific Ocean by the groundwater flowing under the plant ruins.

    It is necessary to build an underground wall to deflect groundwater away from molten fuel and corium lava tubes under the plant.
    If the Frozen Wall will not work, an Impermeable Wall of sheet steel pilings must be constructed.
    And not just half way around Units1-4, but ALL the way around the reactor ruins.
    Start from the existing wall, and build the wall inland from, and behind, Reactors1-4 first, so the groundwater doesn't build up and flood the ground around the reactors.
    Finish the harbor side last of all.
    Add a closed loop heat sink, using cooling towers, if trapped cores heat up the groundwater inside the perimeter of the Impermeable Wall.


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    • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

      It is vital that TEPCO be forced now to finally admit the truth.
      ENEnewsers can help by posting this question/demand everywhere:

      "Where is the Corium?"

      Three reactor cores are in the ground, being washed into the Pacific Ocean by flowing groundwater.
      This is a FLOW OF RADIATION, not a "leak".
      Japan must build an underground Impermeable Wall NOW.
      No more tests, no more engineering design flaws.
      Not a half wall, but an underground enclosure to divert groundwater around Units1-4.
      No more delay.

      Where is the damn corium, TEPCO?
      WHERE IS THE CORIUM??


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      • Songie Songie

        posting everywhere:

        "Where is the Corium?"

        Three reactor cores are in the ground, being washed into the Pacific Ocean by flowing groundwater.
        This is a FLOW OF RADIATION, not a "leak".
        Japan must build an underground Impermeable Wall NOW.
        No more tests, no more engineering design flaws.
        Not a half wall, but an underground enclosure to divert groundwater around Units1-4.
        No more delay.

        Where is the damn corium, TEPCO?
        WHERE IS THE CORIUM??"

        Thanks, PhilipUpNorth


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      • bf9 bf9

        I agree wholeheartedly, as I've updated my little avatar, HOWEVER- the rods from all the units have to be moved first. Isolate the plant from that underground river, radioactivity can't be washed away and will accumulate in the isolated water and earth inside that wall. The levels will go up, and up, and up…wouldn't be long before humans would die on contact getting anywhere near that place.

        Time to send a million man task force at this thing boys and girls. Figure out a way to get those rods out in like a few MONTHS, and build that sucker immediately after.


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        • bo bo

          Bf9 – Before turning this into bumper sticker staple… make sure it's plural. I know enenewsers know, but this could further obfuscate the public as to what really happened

          We are looking for multiple coriums (cori?), not just one!


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          • bf9 bf9

            Correct, I'd think it would be "are the coria" perhaps? I'd consult my recent English professor but she told me not to bring up anything related to Fukushima again (assuming because she can't handle it). Oh well!


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            • bo bo

              bf9….why is she banning you from discussing fukushima?


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              • bf9 bf9

                It wasn't so much a ban as it was a polite request to not continue, after providing material for her to take home last semester (and my last). She seemed a little…delicate…about certain things so I think it was a case of her not being able to cope with or believe what she was reading. I hardly remember any of the Latin class I took many years ago…but assuming that the word is nominative, second declension, I believe the plural would be "coria". So I'll go with that. Hopefully I solved that mystery. lol
                http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/corium

                ANYWAY, veering back on track, learning that R3's corium is likely in particulate form (from the most recent article)…that's a tough one. No ideas at the moment- from one mystery to another, a normal day in Fuku-town.


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                • bo bo

                  Oh I like the new avatar bf9! Thanks for taking in my suggestion… I'm always aggravated when NPR etc. knowingly uses singulars to minimize fukushima's image…

                  I never understand when grown ups and intellectuals say they are too sensitive to handle fukushima and pass up a red pill offer. And here you are a student, trying to educate a professor. What an upside down world. And you're the one the should be upset, you are younger.


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    3 Years non-stop and without any stop/turn off switch for an eternity.. :(


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  • Nick

    Cesium is a daughter product of xenon gas……it makes sense that atmospheric deposits are additive to the aqueous plume. Then there are all those zillions of nano-bucket balls carrying everything but the kitchen sink far and wide.

    Fukushima will not be a problem when our sun becomes a red giant. Until then, we is just gonna have to deal with nuclear/atomic energy's legacy.

    Radioactivity has to decay away, it does not dilute to safe levels….ever.

    The great lies of nuclear energy/weapons production must be revealed.

    The era of obfuscation and placation are OVER.


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  • pjrsullivan

    Rather than nuclear war without the war, might we not consider this event to be nuclear war merely without the blast? How about all the shock and awe of a poisoned environment lingering for a few life times or more? How about children born ill with radiation sickness? Hitachi-GE, does it not appear to be an act of war?

    Might Hitachi-GE be a Pearl harbor type sneak attack upon our fields, air and persons? Might we not consider that they are sneaking it right by our perceptions? If they tell us its an accident and we believe them, is that not their right to fool us here? What is truth and what is fiction? Has it not been said that all is fair in love and war?

    If they've already attacked us with nuclear blast weapons and our elders from space pulled them out of the sky to protect us, and they've refused numerous opportunities to shut the Hitachi-GE dirty bomb down over the years, then what might an ordinary grand jury suspect? Might this nuclear dirty bomb not be an act of war against us?

    435 more dirty bomb power plants to go. American money is financing war in 74 nations. Might Hitachi-GE sparkler waste actually be number 75?

    Is a trespass not considered a justifiable cause action? Why have we not begun court proceedings against the perpetrators of this open air burning and illegal dumping of nuclear waste here?

    Must labor not protect us here and STRIKE THEM OUT until it has the authority to issue our money?

    Will you not hire us some grand juries…


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  • the cores are at +5 miles down now.. you can't recover the stuff.. and yes… water is problems… is no way to make a wall to stop it now.. pray for a subduction-type of slip to move it into earths core. That's the best we now can hope for. They build theses damned things on fault lines for a REASON… not a GOOD one, but still/…


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