Trillions of becquerels per day still being emitted from Fukushima Daiichi — Radioactive steam continues (VIDEO)

Published: May 20th, 2012 at 12:12 pm ET


Dr. Helen Caldicott interviews Arnold Gundersen
If You Love This Planet Radio
May 8, 2012

I would say there are billions, actually trillions, of becquerels per day being released airborne, mainly from Units 2 and 3.

Actually on cold nights you can still the steam coming off those reactors, its not just steam its radioactive steam.

Something on the order of trillions of becquerels per day… trillions of disintegrations per second per day are being released even now.

h/t Whoopie

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Published: May 20th, 2012 at 12:12 pm ET


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91 comments to Trillions of becquerels per day still being emitted from Fukushima Daiichi — Radioactive steam continues (VIDEO)

    • CaptD CaptD

      Too bad they only allow those with FB accounts to post comments…
      I was going to say that hopefully they would take that equipment to Fukushima and tell US how much Pu there is leaking out…

      • Gotham

        I agree CaptD – as Arnie notes – he does not know the nature of isotopes in the radioactive steam coming out of these destroyed nuclar power plants.

        Which begs the question, "Why the hell isn't TEPCO telling the world what is in this steam?" I guess they don't want to let us know how bad it is.

        If we knew what was in these "trillions of disintegrations per second" atmospheric models could more accurately predict what the fallout round the world is like.

        On and on like this…

        • Gotham

          The "MOX on all your houses" continues.

          • HoTaters HoTaters

            "The MOX on you!" Kind of sounds like saying, "The pox on you!"

            The MOX on you and all your descendants. Sounds like something a medieval Darth Vader would say ….

          • @Gotham: laughing through my tears…that's a good one, unfortunately.

        • Bubbha

          I can imagine its like a chess game to them. If they tell the world, the next question will be how do you plan to stop it? Can't is the answer they don't want to say.

        • ion jean ion jean

          Fissioning MOX fuel from 3, in fact ANY fissioning enriched uranium is releasing the Entire Rainbow of Radionuclides…proportionally the same isotopes as any atomic bomb test…

          So we've got a large amount of Cerium, Ruthenium, then maybe billions of Becquerels of the nasties like Strontium 90 and an even larger slice of 89, loads of Cesium. Iodine, the other noble gases, and a sprinkle of Plutonium on top…a Daughter Product Sundae and TEPCO has set up the Dessert Cart…someday someone will get mad enough!

      • Max1 Max1

        I have a Yahoo account and I can post…
        … I do not do Fb.

    • According to Arjun Makhijani and Scott Saleska in The Nuclear Power Deception: A Report of the Institute for Energy and Environmental Research "the classification of plutonium according to grades is somewhat arbitrary" (p. 226)

      Meaning that all grades of plutonium can be used to make weapons, although plutonium with less than 7 percent P-240 is preferred.

      Moreover, the oxidation of plutonium poses the greatest health risk "since the resulting insoluble stable compound, plutonium dioxide is in a particular form that can easily be inhaled. It tends to stay in the lungs for long periods, and is also transported to other parts of the body" 224

      We still do not know why an explosion occurred in the reactor 4 building.

      There has never been a clear explanation.

      After reading about Japan's history with plutonium,
      summarized here:

      I strongly suspect that reactor 3 (or 4) weren't just using mox fuel but may very well have been "enriching" fuel to produce plutonium

      Tokai is the place where Japan historically enriched plutonium for their breeder reactor program

      • ion jean ion jean

        The FAILED Breeder Reactor Program…the U.S. Helped Japan start up that (feeling guilty perhaps for '45). Then Japan said: "We need MORE Plutonium!! And France was happy to oblige…We never saw ANY of those transport ships, in fact, it's just a figment of everyone's imagination…just like the fact that mothers in the U.S. Didn't really give birth to stillborn babies…it was all just a dream!

        Now take your meds and quiet down!!!

  • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

    How Dangerous Is 400-600 Pounds Of Plutonium Nano Particle Dust Liberated By Fukushima? Via A Green Road Blog

  • AGreenRoad AGreenRoad

    It is strange that no one in the mass media is talking about plutonium, the dangers posed by it, and how much was released by Fukushima..

    Could it be that this is such bad news that the corps that control the media and politicians have a "Do not talk about it" rule?

    Of course, they also do not talk about how long these problems will be around… how many generations of humans will it take to guard this stuff for a BILLION years.

    93 Long life Radiation Contaminants, A Problem For Billions Of Years; via A Green Road Blog

    • CaptD CaptD

      Great post… THX

    • moonshellblue moonshellblue

      The old beagles die first. sad

    • Max1 Max1

      The truth will set you free…

      … It will also cause the general public to grow angry to know that the energy they depend upon is actually killing them, their families and loved ones, thus setting off a fire storm of protests to close down NPP (money makers/cancer generators) which of course, the PTB and Corporatists will fight tooth and nail against (Police/National Guard/military/you name it).

  • CaptD CaptD

    Anyone else notice that we are starting to find out a bit more about all the different types of really bad radioactive pollution still coming out of Fukushima?

  • Sickputer

    Let's see Tepco sue Arnie for defamation on that one! Tepco wouldn't dare. But I expect Arnie may find it hard in the future to get his entry visa renewed unless he gets help from American politicians. He may not want to travel to Japan though..

    • CaptD CaptD

      Right On…

      Northern Japan will be a Radioactive "Study" area for our lifetime…

      Japan's Leaders need to start thinking outside the radioactive BOX…

      If the Japanese were smart, they would dedicate this area as a mock Lunar Base, a "practice" area and then develop it the same way they would develop a future base on the Moon…

      This would allow the other counties that are interested in planning a lunar base to join together with the Japanese and figure out how to use NEW Radiation-Proof technology to work in a radioactive environment, while still here on Earth. While they are doing it they could also develop a HUGE Solar Farm, whose capacity could be used by the Japanese, (instead of a lunar base)!

      TEPCO needs to governed by an International Board that will guaranty that what happens from now on always puts public safety ahead of PROFITS…

      • richard richard

        Japanese leaders can't think outside of their arse, so don't expect much there. Remember, they are

        Japan will become a large necropolis, there will be nothing to study but death.

      • tomarsandbeyond tomarsandbeyond

        It's a good time to watch what the really rich people do more closely. Do they buy more land in the southern hemisphere, purchase larger homes with total air filtration? We might end up with a clean (expensive, indoor-produced) food supply and water and living space for the elite, and the rest of us (the 99%) left to have the more contaminated stuff.
        Maybe long-term there will be domed cities. But who gets to live in them? Probably more like just big houses for wealthy people with a garage where they can get into and out of their vehicles. All with good air filtration. Big sunrooms in those houses so they can get their "outdoor" time.

        • Jebus Jebus

          The “1 Percent” Exodus

          Certainly, there is an ominous sound to the fact that, according to the INS/Census Bureau & Zogby International, the top one percent of U.S. taxpayers are leaving at the highest rate in history. But the numbers relative to the general population are fairly small. The troubling element here? The trend is straight upward. According to an Internal Revenue Service (IRS) report, from 2008 through the first quarter of 2011, the number of people who have given up their citizenship, or terminated their long-term, permanent residency status has increased nearly nine-fold. Quarterly averages in 2008 and 2009 were 58 and 186, respectively. In 2010 the average jumped to 384 per quarter, and in the first quarter of 2011, 499 ex-pats bid America a permanent adios.

          • Max1 Max1

            TAXES… Ugh.

            TAXES too high for those who can afford to pay them? So they leave? Feeling oppressed? Burdened? And of the common man who gets to cover for the lazy wealthy? That common man gets to work a third job just to pay for the tax increases used to fund illegal wars that lead to criminal enterprises. Tax increases that are funneled to expensive and wasteful military operations that in turn are used to further oppression, death and greed. Heck, I'd leave too IF I didn't give a rat's ass about the Nation that gave me my wealth, IF I were that cravenly wealthy I didn't want to give back to the society that assisted in providing me opportunities to acquire such wealth. But I'm not a Fishead sociopath.

            Instead, I'm poor and fight along side of my fellow human being because I care about their future, their children's future and their children's children, and so on…
            … Like radioactive decay, we too need to be thinking ten generations out.

            • richard richard

              nice rant max – on target. particularly about having three jobs to pay taxes for illegal wars.

              and don't you love how you pay taxes for the EPA, but hey, they very expensive equipment nd training you paid for was not used when it was most needed. amazing.

              you can bet that the EPA mamangement didn't take a salary cut for that little non-functionality.

              Crazy World – brought to you by

  • labmonkeywithagun labmonkeywithagun

    Chart you might want to look at

    You tell me. I think when applied to tons and tons of crap……

    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      Hi labmonkey (I wish they had guns, actually, but different story),
      thanks for that chart. Those timeframes are just….you know.
      Here I've got something that shows how the levels of Pu and especially Thorium (!) are massively INcreasing during the first thousands of years, before their concentrations decline.
      Thorium-99 as a daughter product of plutonium is extremely dangerous – it reaches its peak concentration after 30000 years.
      The study is in German, but check the graphs at page 71-74.

      For me it's a quite relevant study, as it is about the possible consequences of a collapsing underground nuclear waste dump near my home town. 🙁

      • labmonkeywithagun labmonkeywithagun

        see what you mean
        this is all without going critical again (lately??)

        BTW, how you doing? feeling a little drippy myself-nevermind

        • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

          yes, it's stuff which had been dumped at 700 metres depth in the 60's and 70's in an old salt dome (looks lika a beehive, actually). All chambers have been sealed, and now the stuff is leaking.
          12 to of contaminated water a day flowing out.
          Impossible to retrieve.
          River's not far away.

          • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

            And thanks, I'm doing fine….basically.

          • labmonkeywithagun labmonkeywithagun

            We have hanford not far.
            Wanna' trade?
            I think they are making progress but it was a bad idea to make this many bombs and then to put it out in idiots hands as peaceful use.Peaceful use was to make tritium for the biggest bombs. Didn't work exactly like that, but the lie had to be justified.

  • Sickputer

    Yes… Trillions of hot radioactive particles zooming up to the lower jetream levels. We are getting massacred here in the states. The weird sky haze outside I see almost every day is grim reminder we are in the deadly embrace of The Fallout Age.

    Take fallout precautions as much as possible. The life you save will be your own. Nobody in government is going to give you an ounce of help or even a warning.

    • BreadAndButter BreadAndButter

      I hear you, SP. This is just horrible. Either you get no information at all, or you're deliberately misinformed.

    • "…we are in the deadly embrace of The Fallout Age." – Sickputer

      I had a dream many years ago. It was a sad dream of a future time. I remember it was called the time of "The Suffering". I think that period in time has begun.

      Whether history, if there is any, calls it The Fallout Age or the time of The Suffering it will not matter. We are living 'it' for now.

      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Have you all been watching the CPM levels at Radiation Network? Lots and lots of locations all over the U.S. showing levels above 50. And not just the "usual suspects."

        • Yes, I was wondering about that.

          When I first started watching a year ago my area was consistently (every day) hovering around 12 CPM.

          Now we're consistently hovering around 30 CPM and above with some spikes up to 40 CPM.

        • aigeezer aigeezer

          HoTaters, how many are "lots and lots"? I have not seen an unusual number over 50 and the average seems to hold at about 26, day in and day out.

          Right now I see 60 stations at average 26 CPM, and 4 of them over 50, which seems typical.

          The number of stations in the network has been creeping up from about 50 a few weeks ago. I wish there were thousands more.

          One thing that will push the average CPM up is if most new stations use pancake tube GCs. Those that don't tend to have lower readings. Mine (PRM-8000) is a non-pancake type, and has kept an average reading of 13 CPM for months now. I'm told the network will eventually offer normalized readings to allow for differences among GC types.

          Anyway, here's the network I'm thinking of. My station is in Canada, in the upper right corner of the US map image and is normally online 24/7.

          Pu – if your nearby station switched GC types, that could account for a jump in CPM (see above). Hehe – get your own station to be sure.

          • doctorwhowhatwhere doctorwhowhatwhere

            The thing about is that the readings change so noticeably from minute to minute. I watched a 61 drop to a 44 in one minute's time just a while ago, then zip back up to 54 the next minute. And some of the monitoring counters are set up indoors, which skews environmental readings to the low end. And you already mentioned the differences in the sensitivities of the different counters, which plays a big role, too. I'm sure the US and Canada have been getting hammered at times, yet I'm barely seeing this reflected in most counter networks, and this has me puzzled, and I hate being puzzled for longer than 1.3 seconds.

            Anyway, today I've seen a number of readings over 60 on, and a steady number at 50 and above, so today has been on the high side.

            • aigeezer aigeezer

              "Random" is like that – the numbers jump around, sometimes alarmingly. What is "a number" or a "steady number" you refer to, please? This would be a good time to quantify things if we can.

              I just noticed they don't give you the average on the public site. One reason I'm fairly relaxed about moment-to-moment readings is that I can see the averages for the whole network or click on the historical graph for any station if it worries me. I also know I'll get a loud alarm if any station goes over a preset value (default 100 CPM).

              If it's any help, I'm seeing one station now at 60 (Philly, which is almost always the highest on the map) and one at 55. No others over 50.

              The best way to put your mind at ease is to get your own GC and get the software so you can track the stations. The moment-by-moment changes really are random, but if one or several go up dramatically and stay up, then pay close attention.

              Hehe – I sound like a GC salesman. I'm not – just a user.

              • doctorwhowhatwhere doctorwhowhatwhere

                Western Washington has mainly been over 50 today. Eastern Colorado has, too, as has a station in southern California, one that looks to be in Georgia (possibly near the Aiken, SC, area, which would explain that), Philadelphia (poor Philadelphia), and one station that looks to be in New York — at least several of these have topped 60 today. I've been staying at my Lake Michigan place near Chicago for the past number of months and have been monitoring, and the past few days have seen higher-than-normal (I vaguely remember "normal") readings, although nothing alarming.

                In ways I think that what we may see isn't so much alert levels as higher "normal" levels, so I'm trying to pay more attention to that. We're in new territory these days in so many ways, so it's difficult to say what to expect. But I do anticipate being tethered to the on-the-minute readings for a while, to see what patterns might show themselves.

                • aigeezer aigeezer

                  That's odd. I look at today's report for the Western Washington station and get this:
                  Seattle WA Report

                  (I've removed some identifying info)

                  Altitude 53 meters
                  Station Name Seattle WA
                  Geiger Counter Model Inspector+
                  Other Criteria Outdoors, Scanner, (I omitted some detail).

                  Report Period Day Time AM/PM

                  Beginning time 05/20/12 08:43:10 AM
                  Ending time 05/20/12 08:29:04 PM
                  Elapsed Minutes 706

                  Radiation Counts


                  Total Counts 24,386
                  Average CPM 34
                  Minimum CPM 19
                  Maximum CPM 54
                  Last Alert Level Set (CPM) 100

                  Time of Low/High Radiation Day Time AM/PM

                  Minimum CPM occurred 05/20/12 03:07:08 PM
                  Maximum CPM occurred 05/20/12 08:25:08 PM
                  Alert Level first exceeded N/A N/A N/A
                  Alert Level last exceeded N/A N/A N/A


                  Maybe we're thinking of different stations, but anyway that's the kind of detail users can see at will, and I've been seeing nothing out of the ordinary.

                  Maybe some other radiation network users can chime in?

                  • doctorwhowhatwhere doctorwhowhatwhere

                    Maybe I have a knack of signing in when stations are hitting their daily peaks, although the timing makes sense, as I've mainly been peeking in off and on during what would be mid-to-late afternoon Pacific time, so it sounds as though I'd have been catching them at their highest points during the day.

                  • doctorwhowhatwhere doctorwhowhatwhere

                    Right now, for example, the northern Texas monitor is at 27, but within the past few minutes it was at 52.

                    If this means that my checking the network's stats makes the levels trend upwards, I'll gladly stop looking, ha.

                • doctorwhowhatwhere doctorwhowhatwhere

                  Oh, and northern Texas has been above 50 most of the day. Yes, I do need to hook myself into the network out here. At my usual place of work I have a colleague who is involved with the network, and I get my radiationnetwork data from him. But I'm in my "hideout" out here, so I don't have access to many of my usual resources… which of course means that I sit here fretting and stewing and wondering what I'm missing. That's how I ended up following enenews religiously and finally came onboard as a poster — you're sharp and you're savvy, and you're certainly on top of the information. And most important of all, you understand the dreadful dangers of NPPs and nuclear weapons. My kind of people.

                  • aigeezer aigeezer

                    Just saw your post. Sent me scrambling to see today's northern Texas data. Yup – it had a 61 today, which would definitely catch my eye too. The average is not bad though at 41. Most people set their alarms for 100, for individual station alerts. Unexplained averages around 100 would be scary indeed.

                    Radiation Counts


                    Total Counts 12,598
                    Average CPM 41
                    Minimum CPM 24
                    Maximum CPM 61

                    The blurb says it's an Inspector Alert, mounted on the 2nd floor of a brick house, by a window. With brick, radon may or may not be an issue.

                    Hehe, once you get your own counter and network software you won't have time for anything else.

                    Welcome to Enenews, as I should have said at the outset.

    • Bobby1

      In my opinion we in the US are in or recently have been in the third main wave of radioactive fallout. The first was March – May 2011, the second was October 2011 – February 2012, and the third was late April 2012 to the present. Each wave is worse than the last, maybe not in terms of becquerels, but in health effects & damage.

      There is every reason to expect that the fallout will get worse. And fallout deposition is cumulative, and radiation damage to organs is also cumulative.

      • Air levels can be low, but food and water levels can (eventually) be thousands of times higher

        I agree with Bobby that we've had at least 3 main waves with peaks in each

        I think air monitors may not be that helpful for evaluating risk.

        From what I've read, the problem is really going to be, as Bobby notes, cumulative deposition and bio-accumulation

        Last night I was reading Takashi Hirose's Fukushima Meltdown

        Research models of bio-accumulation in the Columbia river from Hanford assuming a river water value of 1 accumulates up to 1,000,000 times in the egg yolk of a water bird

        So, air levels can be low but levels in our food and water may eventually be VERY HIGH

  • 'live long and prosper' – that was Mr. Spock joke 😐

  • weeman

    Anything that has a half live more than 3 or 4 days must be contaminating north America , correct me if I am wrong please, approx time for airborne partials to reach NA

    • Takes about 3 days to get here.

      Good news: it's only low levels
      Bad news : low levels can be worse than high levels

      • weeman

        On a Geiger counter what reading would you recommend evacuation from a area or is that to narrow

        • Good question:

          5 mSv/year = 0.057 µSv/year

          "Radiation levels almost 90 times Chernobyl evacuation limits found in unevacuated Fukushima school zone at a level so high it is lethal to 100% of the population within 15 years.

          Radiation levels of 45 microsieverts per hour were found alongside a school zone in Fukushima.

          According to the Japan Times the evacuation threshold for Chernobyl was set at 5,000 microsieverts per year while the 45 microsievert per hour level detected equates to an annual dosage of almost 400,000 microsieverts per year.

          For comparison a 4 sievert dose is deterministically known to be lethal to 50% of the entire exposed population and those living in the area in question would reach that dose in about 10 years. Residents in the area would receive a 6 sievert, which is deterministically known to be lethal to 100% of the population, within in about 15 years. The threshold hold for children, unborn fetuses and the elderly population is obviously much smaller and as such these levels of radiation would be lethal in a much shorter period of time.

          Unless the area is evacuated it would mean that none of the children starting school in the area will even live to see their 18th birthday.

        • Acute Dose Examples

          <1 mSv/yr <0.1 μSv/h dose rates below 1 mSv/yr are difficult to measure and should viewed skeptically

          1 mSv/yr (0.1 μSv/h avg) ICRP recommended maximum for artificial irradiation of the public,
          exlcluding medical and occupational exposures.

          2.4 mSv/yr (0.27 μSv/h avg) Natural background radiation, global average

          24 mSv/yr (2.7 μSv/h avg) Natural background radiation at airline cruise altitude[16]

          160 mSv/yr (18 μSv/h avg) Dose from smoking 30 cigarettes a day[17]

          0.64 Sv/yr (73 μSv/h avg) natural radiation in worst case house in Ramsar, Iran[18]

          9 Sv/yr 1 mSv/h NRC definition of a high radiation area in a nuclear power plant, warranting a chain-link fence[19]

          0.24 kSv/yr 27 mSv/h close proximity to a 100W radioisotope thermal generator[20]

          1.4 kSv/yr 0.16 Sv/h Peak dose rate to a worker during a close call at Perry Nuclear Power Plant[21]

          >90 kSv/yr >10 Sv/h most radioactive hotspot found in Fukushima I in areas normally accessible to workers[22]

          0.4 MSv/yr 50 Sv/h radiation from a spent fuel bundle from a CANDU reactor[23]

          2.3 MSv/yr 270 Sv/h typical PWR spent fuel bundle, after 10 year cooldown, no shielding[24]

          90 MSv/yr 10 kSv/h waste components from fusion reactors[25]

    • Fred

      2.76 mR on a paper towel that wiped down a pickup truck hood after a rainstorm in St Louis, MO…you know….where a lot of the world's FOOD comes from!

      US Govt measures nothing….They point their gamma detectors at the ground from on top of a 70 story skyscraper and say the ground has no radiation….

    • Remember 'half-life' means DECAY RATE. The Hazardous to Life time span calculation is:

      * Decay Rate x 10 = HAZARDOUS to life.
      (The 'experts' NEVER state this number.)

      So, even 'goo' with a decay rate of 3 or 4 days will be hazardous for over a month. That's more than enough time to contaminate most of the northern hemisphere.

      * verifiable fact

  • weeman

    How can you have cold shutdown if you have steam, do you not need 100 c to produce steam

    • Lacsap Lacsap

      Steam is produced by the molten core (or fuel) reacting with concrete, steel, water etc. Fission of the molten core (the core melts over and over) produces all kinds of isotopes, name one and it is probably there.

      • weeman

        If the core is molten how is that cold shutdown, the overall vessel maybe less than 100c but the core still is not and as far as I comprehend it may form a crust but inside will be molten for who knows if air cooled.?

        • Lacsap Lacsap

          Yes cold shutdown means vessel is below 100c, that there cannot be new danger like an explosion from the vessel / reactor. The crust is lead. Lead is the end state (the remain) of an radioactive isotope. Inside the lead crust there is still fission going on (still hot) for many many years (also ending up in lead of course). Cooling the core prevents only from going critical and does not take away the fission and decay of the isotopes.

    • aigeezer aigeezer

      weeman, you don't need 100 degrees Celsius to produce steam – you're thinking of the boiling point of water. Coffee, tea or soup may be steaming without boiling, as you know.

      Separate issue from what is going on with the cores though.

      "Cold shutdown conditions", as used at Fukushima, is a bureaucratic phrase to allow various political actions such as denying compensation or declaring emergencies over.

      The trigger mechanism seemed to be taking temperatures where the cores once were, and announcing success without investigating where the cores might actually be or what they might actually be doing. It has been a ruse from the outset, but the media/public seem to have bought it so far.

      • weeman

        I see radioactive condensate, still not convinced of cold shut down till they find cores, is the elephants foot in chernobyl in cold shut down or is it surrounded by a crust of lead and molten core and would that be considered cold shut down, please excuse silly questions layman

        • aigeezer aigeezer

          I agree, weeman. "Cold shutdown" is not the right term for either Chernobyl or Fukushima.

          Abraham Lincoln had a good way or making this point:

          "How many legs does a dog have if you call the tail a leg? Four. Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg."

          Saying Fukushima or Chernobyl is in cold shutdown doesn't mean either is in cold shutdown in the normal sense of the term. It's politics. It's wishful thinking. It's deception. It's a diversion. It's part of what we've got to deal with though.

          The fact that some politician considers a reactor to be in cold shutdown means nothing to the reactor. We humans can believe anything we want – physics doesn't care what we believe – it will do what it will do.

          In Fukushima, Tepco and the politicians took the standard industry term "cold shutdown", a checkpoint in the process of turning off a normally-running reactor, and twisted it into the phrase "cold shutdown conditions". They claim that their wrecked reactors are in a condition just like a normal cold shutdown because the temperature of the (leaky) chamber has dropped below 100 degrees (never mind where the core is or what it is doing).

  • Gotham

    It's A Gift That Keeps On Giving…

  • Those figures Arnie gives don't sound very healthy, and now this:

    Formaldehyde found in Japan water supply
    [20/05 08:54 CET]

    I was curious as to whether there is link between ionizing radiation and the formation of formaldehyde:

    Ionizing Radiation Induces Formation of Malondialdehyde, <b>Formaldehyde</b>, and Acetaldehyde from Carbohydrates and Organic Acid

    • Could it be the mass burning of materials [even the non-radioactive stuff] could be causing formaldehyde to be released into the ground water, thus poisoning the people of Tokyo?

      Formaldehyde Fact Sheet
      [summary: it's nasty stuff, carcinogenic, corrosive, flammable, poisonous]

      Formaldehyde is released into the air by burning wood, kerosene or natural gas, by automobiles, and by cigarettes. Formaldehyde can off-gas from materials made with it. It is also a naturally occurring substance.

      What are the Major Sources?

      1. Urea-formaldehyde foam insulation

      2. Durable-press fabrics, draperies and coated paper products

      3. Cosmetics, paints, coatings, and some wet-strength paper products
      4. Pressed wood products
      5. Combustion: Burning materials such as wood, kerosene, cigarettes and natural gas, and operating internal combustion engines (e.g. automobiles), produce small quantities of formaldehyde.
      6.Carpets, gypsum boards: Products such as carpets or gypsum board do not contain significant amounts of formaldehyde when new. They may trap formaldehyde emitted from other sources and later release the formaldehyde into the indoor air when the temperature and humidity change.

      • Getting off-topic, sorry …

      • Max1 Max1

        "Could it be the mass burning of materials"

        That's my guess too…
        … As seen by the black radioactive soot people are finding around Northern Japan.

        • They said it might be due to an "industrial accident".

          I'm guessing which 'industrial accident' it might be.

          "Fukushima is the biggest industrial catastrophe in the history of mankind," Arnold Gundersen, a former nuclear industry senior vice president, told Al Jazeera.

          Fukushima: It's much worse than you think
          Scientific experts believe Japan's nuclear disaster to be far worse than governments are revealing to the public.
          Dahr Jamail Last Modified: 16 Jun 2011 12:50

      • Bobby1

        Formaldehyde would be a common ingredient in the tsunami debris that is being burned. The ash settles on the ground, and when it rains, it ends up in the water supply.

        It's not just radiation in the burning debris, there are all sorts of toxic chemicals too. And of course, radiation's effect on the immune system makes the body more sensitive to these toxins.

      • aigeezer aigeezer

        Interesting theme, Pu.

        They have had massive incineration of general tsunami debris also, I think.

        Anyone know if they used UFFI in Japanese buildings? (It was banned here in Canada long ago).

        The other "industrial accident" that comes to mind is the odd story of the "glue factory fire" in April:

  • rollbuff

    reply to Sickputer Yes I to have notice the haze in the sky. I see the jets spray before a storm front (chemtrails), when the storm front arrives, not a drop of rain falls from the sky.I think it's fall-out related. Thier proventing HOT rain from falling.This spraying puts a haze in the sky. I took many pictures of the chemtrails when they gridded over head. Weird to wathch a storm front blow right over from the west with thunder and not a drop of rain.

    • WildTurnip WildTurnip

      I doubt TPTB are chemtrailing to prevent *hot* rain from falling — they've been doing this far too long — but the spraying does lessen or curtail the rain fall. I remember when chemtrails were one of my biggest worries… those were the days 🙁

    • Yes, this explains the trillions of becquerels a day we're all getting in the jet stream right now.

      The bomb that was supposed to blow just other people up and cause a global nuclear disaster has instead blown them & other people up and caused a global nuclear disaster. They used to call this MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) and NUTS (Nuclear Utilization Target Selection).

      And, they located the bomb factory in a major earthquake-tsunami zone:

      "How Japan ended up in this nuclear nightmare is a subject the National Security News Service has been investigating since 1991. We learned that Japan had a dual use nuclear program. The public program was to develop and provide unlimited energy for the country. But there was also a secret component, an undeclared nuclear weapons program that would allow Japan to amass enough nuclear material and technology to become a major nuclear power on short notice.

      That secret effort was hidden in a nuclear power program that by March 11, 2011– the day the earthquake and tsunami overwhelmed the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Plant – had amassed 70 metric tons of plutonium. Like its use of civilian nuclear power to hide a secret bomb program, Japan used peaceful space exploration as a cover for developing sophisticated nuclear weapons delivery systems."

  • I just read the link.
    I am sad for us all.
    Unbelievable. Yet true, as far as I can tell.

  • and since I do have a FB account, I have posted links to all of this. I post links almost daily.
    If it helps to get the word out, I will do it.
    And continue to post links.
    I have been posting on FB since about day three after the earthquake.

  • Can hydrogen be requested to give away progressively by using such a method, similar to the disposal of teh hydrogen when charging?


    Anything to the atmosphere, you don't need to sit in the application of this method. Everything is in the reactor, and the hydrogen is not

  • Can hydrogen be requested to give away progressively by using such a method, similar to the disposal of teh hydrogen when charging?

    Anything to the atmosphere, you don't need to sit in the application of this method. Everything is in the reactor, and the hydrogen is not

  • Amazing that most folks think the job is done when there will effectively be no end to the horror!

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Mud is on the face of everyone involved with nuclear industries.

  • jackassrig

    Steam is an invisible gas. What we are seeing is water vapor. So we a probably seeing only a small portion of the radioactive gas that is being emitted.