Reactor Designer: “It was a nuclear explosion” at Fukushima Unit 3; Plutonium scattered after blast — ABC: “There’s willful denial and lying going on here, even at the highest levels” (AUDIO)

Published: November 5th, 2013 at 7:23 pm ET


ABC Australia, June 26, 2013 (At 8:15 in): Even [Japan’s Prime Minister Naoto Kan] can’t get answers. There’s one point he’s back in his office watching reactor 3 explode, there’s black smoke. “What’s going on,” asks Kan. There was silence. No one had any answer. But then over at Tepco, they’re watching that too. They know what’s going on, but the president of Tepco basically says, “Well, don’t tell them that, tell them something different.” Basically tell them it was a hydrogen explosion. So there’s willful denial and lying going on here, even at the highest levels. Even the Prime Minister can’t get the answers.

Akio Takahashi, a senior Tepco official: “We do not know whether it was a hydrogen explosion, but since the government–the Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency–is saying it is a hydrogen explosion, we can just say so–a hydrogen explosion, can’t we?”

Fukushima by ABC correspondent Mark Willacy, published July 1, 2013 (Excerpt): ‘All right. I agree. This is fine,’ replied [Tepco] President Shimizu. And that was exactly what happened. At a press conference later that day, a TEPCO public-relations official said with utmost confidence, it was a hydrogen explosion.’ But the exact cause of the Reactor 3 blast has even now not been conclusively determined. Some have speculated it could have been a nuclear explosion — just like Chernobyl. ‘I watched video of the Reactor 3 explosion,’ said veteran Japanese nuclear-reactor designer Setsuo Fujiwara. ‘There was an orange flash, which suggests the temperature must have been thousands of degrees centigrade before the explosion. Then there was black smoke.’ Fujiwara insisted to me that a hydrogen explosion created white smoke and steam, as witnessed after the Reactor 1 building was torn apart. He continued, ‘The second piece of evidence is that plutonium was scattered about after this blast. Plutonium is consistent with the mixed oxide fuel [used in Reactor 3]. The third point is that the Reactor 3 building was bent like candy, unlike the Reactor 1 building, where the steel framework remained intact. So this could only mean it was a nuclear explosion.’

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Published: November 5th, 2013 at 7:23 pm ET


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  • own_quality

    The only question I care about is how much of the fuel was aerosolized in the explosion and circled the northern hemisphere, vs. larger pieces that fell within a 30km radius or so.

  • flatsville

    New Fukushima Radiation Release Estimates Compiled

    November 4th, 2013

    Fukushima Radiation Release Estimates

    Best guestimate. Don't expect TEPCO/JapGov to ever tell you the truth.

  • Time Is Short Time Is Short

    There's this from Greenpeace:

    “A recent study was prepared for Greenpeace Germany by international nuclear safety expert Dr. Helmut Hirsch. Dr. Hirsch’s assessment, based on data published by the French government’s radiation protection agency (IRSN) and the Austrian government’s Central Institute for Meteorology and Geodynamics (ZAMG) found that the total amount of unstable radionuclides Iodine-131 and Caesium-137 released between March 11 and March 23 has been so high that the Fukushima crisis already equates to three INES 7 incidents.

    Release of radiation from the stricken reactors has reached 10,000 teraBequerels (10,000 trillion Bequerels) per hour, measured for radioactive Iodine-131.”

    and a great map of the global radioactive plume:

  • sueec

    Regarding 137Cs, the inversion results indicate a total emission of 35.8 (23.3– 50.1) PBq, or about 42 % of the estimated Chernobyl emission. This means that nearly 2 % of the available inventory of the reactor cores in units 1–3 and the spent-fuel pool in unit 4 was discharged into the atmosphere. The inversion strongly increased the
    5 emissions early on 12 March, around the time when the first explosion occurred in unit 1. These early emissions were until now underestimated by the Japanese authorities, but are in accordance with the first estimates published by Central Institute for Mete- orology and Geodynamics (2011). We also find unexpectedly high 137Cs emissions from 16–19 March, which suddenly dropped by orders of magnitude when spraying of
    10 water on the spent-fuel pool of unit 4 started. Thus, we believe that these high emis- sions are related to the degraded fuel in the spent-fuel pool of unit 4, and this result would also confirm that the spraying was an effective countermeasure at least in this case. Between 19 March and 10 April, episodic but generally decreasing emissions were found.
    15 The winds transported the FD-NPP emissions towards the Pacific Ocean most of the time, while Japan was affected only occasionally. While this seemed like a relatively fortunate situation for Japan during the accident event, a different picture emerges from our detailed analysis. Exactly during and following the period of the highest 137Cs emis- sion rates on 14 and 15 March,…

    • Kassandra

      "his means that nearly 2 % of the available inventory of the reactor cores in units 1–3 and the spent-fuel pool in unit 4 was discharged into the atmosphere."

      MAJOR underestimate I'm afraid.

  • TheBigPicture TheBigPicture

    Lies or not, nuclear power plants are too dangerous. Abolishing them is all that matters.

  • clueless

    Please help me understand. If this is as bad as people claim, why aren't the radiation detectors showing an uptick or dangerous levels near Japan or on the West Coast of the USA?

    Even on the private ones in Tokyo nothing significant shows. Could someone direct me to links or explain this?

    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      And who owns the government radiation monitors?

      Otherwise, read up in the Radiation Monitoring Data forum, here:

    • digitalaardvarks digitalaardvarks

      radiation detectors were shut down on the west coast.

    • Au Au

      clueless- look at Fukushima not Tokyo and do look at the thread TIS mentioned and do know that the EPA- let's see-Gina McCarthy shut down the monitors and did not warn the public that we were and are getting nuked to death with time released radiation and do know that the media is controlled. They killed us and our children in our sleep and still most people don't know it. tick tick tick And do know that many of us (and now you) who knew have been grieving for the loss of a healthy future. It's so sad, yet we must keep living, even though we know, because we are not dead yet. Nuclear kills. Nuclear is death to all living things. Ask the starfish, the anchovies, the salmon, the polar bears, the seals, the seaweed. But don't ask the scientist and the marine bioligist because they don't know jack shit or they straight up lie. Yes, spending their last days on earth lying. "We don't know the cause." "We are baffled." We the people have had a gut full of all these lying bastards.

    • clueless

      I know that there is a cover up,but what about all the privately owned equipment? I'm trying to find real proof. So far, I only see a few where, occasionally there is a spike a little above normal. Us there a specific privately owned counter that shows all this Doom everyone is talking about. I swear I am not a troll. I'm trying to save my friend's pets she left with a fried in California. Please help.

      • razzz razzz

        If you aren't going to search answers for yourself like by going to and watch the video, believe it or not, then check to see if the EPA raised the radiation background levels recently. There would be a reason for doing so and that would be fallout from Fukushima, Daiichi.

        Then write TEPCO and ask them how much xenon radioisotopes were released during Unit 3's main explosion so you can figure out if it was a nuclear type fireworks show or not. Don't be surprise if you hear nothing back but crickets and frogs or them saying, "These are not the droids you are looking for, move along."

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          but lets say that SFP 4 is currently totally in the environment, and say half the fuel load of the reactors that blew is in the environment, what would we expect the atmospheric levels in the U.S. and around the world to be? I wonder, for example, what the downwind rad levels were during Nevada tests, or downwind from Hiroshima? We are apparently downwind from 5000 to 15000 Hiroshimas. Is the atmosphere really 5000 times more radioactive than it was downwind from Hiroshima? (of course we are talking wide ballpark reference numbers). A rough guess would be that we are seeing 1/6 to at most 1/2 the fallout which came from nuclear testing.

          The National Resources Defense Council estimates the total yield of all nuclear weapons tests between 1945 and 1980 is around 510 megatons (Mt). Countries have exploded the equivalent of 29,000 Hiroshima size weapons in the earth’s atmosphere, a figure that does not account for surface-level, underground, and underwater testing. In Nevada alone, the US has conducted 911 nuclear tests

          • razzz razzz

            Successful nuke bomb tests are bit more efficient at burning up their purer fuel than nuke power reactors are at using up their fuel. Nuke power reactor fuel burn up results in retaining more fission byproducts. Besides, the above ground tests fire the bomb off at altitude for a better effect and being more efficient creates more heat to carry the fallout high into the atmosphere for longer term dispersal and a shorter downwind effect except for those longer life radioisotopes.

            Daiichi is worse because the fallout is at low levels in the atmosphere plus Unit 2 was dumping it fallout to the immediate area and into the ocean from the onset. Further away, the fallout has a chance to disperse more before it arrived on the west coast of North America. Random hotspots would be a big worry more than general overall fallout, so they say.

            The spent fuel rods will be fine as long as they aren't allowed to release their radioactive poisons. The melted core fuel rods actually contain less nuclear poisons than what spent fuel rods contain. I know, not much comfort in that.

            • Sickputer

              Razzz typed these excellent pixels of light:

              "Daiichi is worse because the fallout is at low levels in the atmosphere plus Unit 2 was dumping it fallout to the immediate area and into the ocean from the onset. Further away, the fallout has a chance to disperse more before it arrived on the west coast of North America."

              SP: Good points…the nearly 70 years of nuclear bomb testing produced a huge amount of radioactive vapors high into the stratosphere layer. Those toxins slowly diffuse over time with downward meteorological events (storms, moisture events, diverging wind currents) and eventually deposit in the oceans and on land, entering the food chain continuously as artificial man made toxins that will be dangerous long after the end of the human race.

              The radioactive dangers from Fukushima Daiichi are worse compare to bomb tests because the radiation event at Fukushima never ends. Toxins are rising into the lower jetstream every second and will continue forever. Some of the massive daily air emissions blows on east bound lower wind currents towards Tokyo and the Asian main continent.

              Coupled with the massive ground pollution of radioisotopes entering the Pacific ocean and the Japanese groundwater aquifer at Fukushima the situation is possibly beyond human control no matter how much money and resources are devoted. That's the ugly invisible elephant standing in the room of the nucleoapes who generated this mess.

              • PhilipUpNorth PhilipUpNorth

                People believe that when an atom bomb explodes, all the nuclear critical mass is converted to energy, as in Einstein's equation E = MC2.

                Actually, only a tiny amount of material is converted into energy in a nuclear bomb.

                The Little Boy bomb that destroyed Hiroshima converted a mere 600 – 860 MILLIGRAMS of U235 from matter into energy, according to Wikipedia:

                The entire remainder of the atom bomb's uranium gets deposited as radioactive fallout.

                Lots of the fuel from Fukushima was vaporized when the 3 reactors melted into puddles of corium lava, and SFP4 burned. This material has become a permant component of Earth's atmosphere.

                But the majority of the nuclear fuel that blew up when Unit1, 3, &4 exploded, came down as fallout from explosions, and was deposited all over Fukushima, and in the ocean. Remember the incredibly radioactive "black stuff" that collected along roadways?

                The fuel that didn't blow up will still get into the environment. Three corium lava tubes were left behind when Corium1,2,&3 melted out of the reactor buildings, and into the Earth. Nuclear fuel debris in the corium lava tubes contaminate groundwater flowing through the plant site, and end up in the Pacific Ocean.

                I put total releases of cesium at 690 PBq, meaning that 100% of the nuclear fuel in Reactors1,2,&3 has been released into the environment.

                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  Philip, if they filled the bay with clay, made an upstream impermeable wall, and buried everything they cant remove under 100 feet of clay, charcoal and ash, boron etc, you dont think that would ameliorate ongoing release into the biosphere…slow it down?

                • weeman

                  Now I am confused, you have been promoting lava tubes for a long time, but if it was vapiourized there is not enough fuel for the corium to leave the building, has your tune changed, no disrespect intended, only respect for your opinion, thx?

        • bwoodfield bwoodfield

          I love the comment that's said in the interview, "Just because it's natural back-ground radiation that doesn't mean it's safe". I keep saying that to people that bring up similar arguments, although I like the radon example that he used.

          • StPaulScout StPaulScout

            The vast majority of 'background' radiation comes from all of the shit that has escaped into the environment since the 1930's or so from man-made radioactive sources.

      • Au Au

        clueless, I know you are not a troll. I apologize if I made you feel that way. I too have family with pets right there on the coast. The links above will help you. Also, go to the thread on the right called "Methods of Combating Radiation"

    • MoonlightEmpire MoonlightEmpire

      Like others have said, the "official" detectors are wrong.

      Want un-deniable proof? Check out BirdHairJP at this link:

      and here's a link to one of his where he shows you un-deniable video evidence of 151 microSv/hour, completely uncontained:

      If those links don't work for some reason, just go to youtube and search for BirdHairJP. Spend as much time as you like watching what the world looks like after an ongoing event like Fuku-Daiichi.

      The truly scary thing is that, aside from the rubble, there is no idication of anything "wrong" inside the evacuation zones. BirdHairJP shows you that, not only is death on the roads, but it is in the park that you bring your babies to…the stroller rolls through an invisible "puddle" and kicks up a bit of dust that you could barely see, even with a microscope…and it lands on your babies lower lip.

      This is the reality of the situation. It is so bad that mothers and fathers are walking their kids down these roads that they never would have imagined could do such harm. At this point, they should f-ing know better…but it's not really their fault.

      Abolish nuclear. Stand for nothing less. Nothing is more important.

    • We Not They Finally

      Actually, in the U.S. there ARE. Like here in Albuquerque, we've had spikes of up to 500 CPM. Amarillo, Texas has had spikes up to 750 CPM. Unfortunately, that's expected to get worse. And sometimes locations on the EAST Coast get badly hit. It's erratic because it is not just about proximity to Japan, but the way the jet stream is blowing.

    • vital1 vital1

      A lot of evidence points to Government run monitoring systems in Japan, USA and Europe being manipulated to protect the Nuclear industry. High detections are explained away by equipment malfunctions, or they just turn the monitoring equipment off during an event.

      In Japan they have been caught placing lead backup batteries near the sensors to shield them, placing the monitoring equipment high off the ground, only decontaminating an area around monitoring stations, plus altering the monitoring equipment so it shows much lower readings.

  • Oncewaslost Oncewaslost

    Reactor Designer: “It was a nuclear explosion” at Fukushima Unit 3; Plutonium scattered after blast — ABC: “There’s willful denial and lying going on here, even at the highest levels”

    No shit eh?

  • Alpha1

    Oncewaslost _ now we are found

    Truth like we said not told you so but denied you so… Dark pit of deceptive BS from the highest level now 2.7 years later admitting to it. We all need to work on the bucket list and protect our children.

    Now is the time not later maybe we should create a gathering!!!

    • We Not They Finally

      YES, there needs to be public organization. Pickets, marches, teach-ins, support groups, whatever. And not just for political pressure, though that is needed badly. It will also be getting worse, and people may well be feeling isolated and afraid.

      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        cant we come up with more effective ways of changing the worlds status quo besides the usual ideas which dont work? Time to get creative. Every day come up with one more idea that doesnt involve wasting time in a picket line in front of people who could care less, or signing a petition that goes to the very people who criminally cover the thing up and perpetrate the madness.

        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          Talked to a local small newspaper editor today and then emailed him info on this site. During the conversation I brought up the Nuclear Contamination problem and asked him why he never covered the Fukushima disaster and he stated he was a small operation just covering local topics, yet his paper is on the web. Little does he know that he is now worldwide. We continued and when I talked about radiation he immediately started with conspiracy? Maybe he knows me from other writings, but really there is not one thing that goes on in this world today, that is not a conspiracy in some form and/or fashion, especially if there exists an objective, which on its own means one/group must conspire to reach that objective originally planned and/or laid out.

          So to make the story short I brought him up to speed quickly and he stated he only gets his articles stories from the AP and walah there is the problem since the AP is not covering squat about this disaster and we all know why. I told him this was big news and maybe that will entice him to start publishing information, since it will affect us all. His wallet/income would improve if his readership numbers increased and maybe that is the angle we need to use, more profits. I sent him an AP story published from/on this link/site! 🙂

          We may all have to go to our own local newspapers in our own towns to get the news out about this disaster via the info available on this site!

          • norbu norbu

            obewanspeaks, This is awesome. Inspiring, Tomorrow I will talk to local newspaper. I always spread the word about enenews. Thanks for hard work here.

          • Time Is Short Time Is Short

            Los Angeles, Channel 7, News at 11 PM, David Ono is doing a special report on Fukushima and the 'potential' disaster that is on its' way.

            Impossible to know what will be said, but it's a step.

            They can only hide this for so long. And once the debris field hits the West Coast, the topic of radiation will skyrocket.

            • Time Is Short Time Is Short

              Darn, forgot to add this Thursday night.

              My bad.

            • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

              The industry has been stalling/controlling the information purposefully for more time to make more profits…they know at some point the sheep must wake up!

          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            The House of Rothschild bought Reuters news service in the 1800's.

            Rothschild was appointed Knight Grand Cross of the Order of the British Empire

            subsequently, Reuters is owned by the Thomson company. Roy Thomson was also appointed Knight Grand Cross of the Order of the British Empire.

            The Order's motto is For God and the Empire. membership requires swearing allegiance to Queen Elizabeth II

            these sites say associated press and reuters are controlled by the Rothschilds but I couldnt find proof of this;

            Reuters and the Associated Press are owned by the Rothschild Family

            The Rothschilds have control of all three U.S. Networks, plus other aspects of the recording and mass media industry according to research by Eustice Mullins in his book 'Who Owns the TV Networks'

            • Time Is Short Time Is Short

              Find an original edition of 'Tragedy and Hope'. It's all in there.

            • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

              Should we all Baaaa or moooo now or later?

            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              re news media, Rothschild; check out the Rockefeller center for a sense of scale. Built by private funds, housing Fox and other news biggies, GE, then sold or rather shafted to Mitsubishi. There is a strange trail of nuclear, Rockefeller, media, and Japan. Toshiba and Mitsubishi are unified. Toshiba and GE supplied Fukushima. Kajima built it, and has an office in Rockefeller center. Its funny to hear people cry for international assistance, when these players are already international


        • vital1 vital1

          The more people we educate the sooner change will happen.

          Get the message out there on how serious the Fukushima nuclear disaster is quickly, and efficiently. You don’t need to explain anything just distribute the lifesaver.pdf or create your own, hand it out, mailbox it, Facebook it, Twitter it, or email it. Think outside the box, put it on public notice boards, hand it out to people, or put it into letter boxes when you go for a walk.

        • StPaulScout StPaulScout

          First off, unplug all the electrical devices in your home you are not currently using. Even when 'off' a great many devices draw current so they stay 'warm' and turn on fast when told to. Second, turn off every light in your home as you leave the room. Replace all light bulbs with LED bulbs. I know they are expensive but they use 1/4 to 1/3 the electricity of standard incandescent lights. Start with the heaviest used bulbs and work back from there.

  • I remember that time and their were more views of the original explosion. I remember watching one particular newsreel and a very definitive mushroom cloud was there. Controversy was it hydrogen or nuclear explosion. Now you cant find that video newsreel. I remember a chill running through my back, the spectacle of a mushroom cloud over a nuclear reactor. I have been here 2.5 years at enenews. Oh yeah, I thought, thats the mox fuel……….

    • Michele

      The video of the two mushroom clouds can be found on p/uranium aerosolized into the atmosphere. Plus charts that state that the radiation made its way to the European Continent.

  • Grampybone Grampybone

    "Some have speculated it could have been a nuclear explosion — just like Chernobyl."

    Days after the examining the nuclear explosions at the plant it had become clear that an exact replication of 3 Chernobyl core melts at sea level and closer to the water table than any nuclear power station in Japan. The black smoke from reactor 3 is a sign of Plutonium and Iron vapor carrying short lived Xenon/Iodide bonded particles. Don't quote me on it…Nottingham University can explain the bare essentials at.

    I don't usually post link's, but this explains how the initial explosions carried so much so fast. EMP is at the speed of the compounded neutron collision and it's distance reflects the strength of the explosion. This is calculated in "Megatons" which is not a very good tool to quantify MOX.

  • The Mox fuel the reprocessed poison 12 billion buys at rokasho. You got 12 billioj of investment at rokasho you not going to admit reprocessed fuel is unstable during melt through out of containment tidal wave earthquake conditions. Oh we didnt realise those conditions existed in Japan. Thats why rokasho would take care of international nuclear waste. Why?

  • mhocker10

    MOX fuel at its best. Who had the bright idea of putting weapons-grade Plutonium in a Nuclear Reactor?

    • We Not They Finally

      According to Yoichi Shimatsu, an excellent Japanese-American journalist and activist, it was Shinzo Abe, then and now P.M. of Japan! Along with the Cheney cabal. It was supposed to be illegal in Japan, but why should completely immoral people care about mere legalities?

  • Why. Why not. A 12 billion US $ investment. Just ignoring Jap space programme allowing for missile technology and 8 tons of plutonium on site at rokasho. Oh yeah rokasho reprocesses spent fuel into more fuel and weapons grade plutonium. Wasnt that why original nuke reactors were made at hanford to bomb japs? You got 12 billion invested in rokasho billions invested in tepco. Yakuza is the only reason all this goes on where historical triple melt down is allowed to happen with extreme regulatory capture.

  • ftlt

    Would not a test of the structural material be able to tell if there had been a nuclear explosion???

    I would think, there is some specific nuclear chemistry and compiled empirical data that would have been developed around nuclear detonations… Heck, they have built and tested 1000's of these things… To the tune 10s of billions in research and development and testing…

    This does not seem that tough of a question to be answered – if the truth was wanted to be told…

    I guess, again, the truth is the problem with FUFU as much as anything..

  • Never mind any nuclear plant produces plutonium. Small nuke explosion scatters plutonium everywhere. On top of ongoing meltdown and radionuclides of varying halflifes bleeding into pacific and whatever ongoing vapour releases and strontium laced and other recycled coolant stored in under engineered tanks and on and on and……..more cancer babies in japan. Blame it on over testing????? Holy radiation, Batman. Thats right Robin old chum. Maybe time to sell the Hollywood mansion.
    Jed Clampett sighs. Never should have trusted that dang blasted

    • weeman

      Buy definition it is closer to a dirty bomb than a nuclear explosion?

      • hbjon hbjon

        The best and most modern safety features money can buy can't prevent disaster when coolant cannot be delivered to the cores. The smallest possible dirty detonation under the circumstances. Apparently, the conditions for an explosion present themselves when fuel reaches a certain temperature/pressure.

  • Shaker1

    I would imagine that the point of the reference to the structural steel in the buildings and the comparison of that steel in bldg 3 as appearing as 'candy' opposed to that of bldg 1 is an allusion to the difference in heat one would get nuclear explosion in comparison to burning or exploding hydrogen. The building were designed with sections to act as 'blow-out' panels, I believe, but even if not that was the effect of that design.

    So besides making reference to an 'orange flash', what he's saying is that the heat was so great from that explosion that it was instantly able to overcome the steel's strength and allowed it to be twisted so. A hydrogen fire doesn't have that split-second potential for heat. I would also think that hydrogen wouldn't create the well-defined vortx of the black cloud, but I can't qualify that statement.

  • Daisy207

    – from a previous post —–"From a post by Too Much Dnbb"

    I looked at these data and I am confused. Each component such as Cesium, should be reported in a mass unit per volume. Like mg/L – or microgram/L ug/L. The Bq unit is only related to disentegrations per second/L – and is independent of the component producing the counts. Since you can't separate components in a Liter sample – the total Bq measurement could be coming from dozens of components and is only measuring for one second?? How about 1000 seconds. I deal with metals in water samples all the time – we measure them in mass/volume first to separate the component from other components – as water contains many metal ions – especially sea water. Is this table basically BS or what? They don't explain how they prep the sample? The detection limits are strange? Maybe I am missing something.

  • Oncewaslost Oncewaslost

    Anyone know the status of the SFP at 3?

  • Daisy207

    The other thing is that say (for example) you have 5 mg/L of an isotope of Cesium in the water sample then the Bq count would be a multiple of the mass of the Cs present – not the total count on the volume of the sample as the isotope of Cs disintegrates at a known rate (based on its half life) – not a measured rate. My brain is hurting.

    • Oncewaslost Oncewaslost

      Well… there was enough plutonium released to kill us all, and it lasts forever.

      So ….

      • Usefulbreather

        I read where just one MOX fuel rod has the capability of killing 2.8 Billion people if it is exposed to the open air. What would an exploding fuel pool full of these rods do to us?

        • Time Is Short Time Is Short

          This is a good start:

          'Fukushima Equals 3,000 Billion Lethal Doses'

          “Dr Paolo Scampa, a widely know EU Physicist, single handedly popularized the easily understood Lethal Doses concept. “Lethal Doses” is a world wide, well understood idea that strips Physics bare and offers a brilliant, understandable explanation for all the physics gobbledygook Intelligence agencies and their respective governments use to disguise the brutal truths of the Fukushima Daiichi Disaster."

          "Three thousand billion (3,000,000,000,000) Lethal Doses of Radiation means there are 429 Lethal Doses chasing each and every one of us on the planet, to put it in a nutshell. This is up from about 70 Billion Lethal Doses March 23, 2011. It is getting worse everyday without any intervention by the US and the other nuclear powers….”

          "Note that the lethality of radioactive reactor cores goes up the first 250,000 years they are out of the reactor – not down."

    • Kassandra

      Hi Daisy

      TEPCO has a documented history of providing readings that make no sense to people who understand how readings are ordinarily taken.

      This, I believe, is a deliberate strategy to appear transparent while offering little real information.

      Worse, many studies of fuku fallout rely on SOURCE TERMS PROVIDED BY TEPCO! It is laughable but these absurdly low projections are typically represented as 'official.'

      The best studies extrapolated from actual samples.

      • Kassandra

        In June of 2012, researchers from the Pacific Northwest National Laboratory and the University of Texas published for public review a power point presentation titled ‘US Particulate and Xenon Measurements Made Following the Fukushima Reactor Accident’ by.

        The researchers had used a SAUNA-II xenon measurement system in March and April of 2011 to measure noble gasses from Fukushima reaching the U.S. Pacific Northwest.

        The system measured Xenon-133 at 450,000 times background. The levels persisted for weeks. Xenon-133 emits beta particles (high intensity electrons) and gamma rays as it decays. Inhalation of Xenon poses a danger to human health.

        J. McIntyre, S. Biegalski, T. Bowyer, M. Copper, P. Eslinger, J. Hayes, D. Haas, H. Miley, J. Rishel, V. Woods (2011) ‘US Particulate and Xenon Measurements Made Following the Fukushima Reactor Accident’,

        • Oncewaslost Oncewaslost

          That is the first I heard of that, thanks for the link.

        • Time Is Short Time Is Short

          "The system measured Xenon-133 at 450,000 times background"

          With fairly even distribution of all the radioisotopes being blown around the planet, I would think that all the other nasties coming from Fukushima would also be 450,000 times background. No reason to think Xenon-133 would be significantly higher than anything else above background.

          Just a thought.

          • Oncewaslost Oncewaslost

            The powerpoint also concludes:

            Measurements were significantly above the detection limits
            for many systems.

            450k is a nice round number… so maybe that is one of the limits.

            The report also indicates that radionuclides often associated with a nuclear explosion were not detected.

            • Time Is Short Time Is Short

              "The report also indicates that radionuclides often associated with a nuclear explosion were not detected."

              Yet Xenon-133, a gas produced from nuclear explosions, was found to be 450,000x over background.

              How convenient.

  • lickerface lickerface

    When my Geiger alarm went off at 4am on 10/31/13, there was no phone number for me to call and report this. I was getting values averaging 118 cpm inside my house, and peaks over 318 cpm. This was the night we had 9 inches of Pacific moisture poured on us. My Geiger showed crazy activity when I didn't see it before. Outside the readings were high too. NormalI 24 cpm average here in my house, but when this all happened, who was I supposed to call and report it for official use???

    • Au Au

      lickerface, Oh, man, I am so sorry to hear this. We are on our own. Hopefully, you all are chugging antioxidants. We got hit here too but not so bad. Sinks the immune system fast. I can feel it knock my immune system a good one. Feel weak when it happens, like when you start to get a virus.

    • Songie Songie

      lickerface, do you run your geiger 24/7? I am consistently at 29 cpm in my PNW home but am only doing ten minute timed counts…..

      alos, remember zeolite in the a.m. to flush out toxins….

      • We Not They Finally

        You're VERY lucky. Where I am (NM), it has spiked as high as 500 CPM. We do our best to at least stay out of the rain.

      • lickerface lickerface

        We make big shakes with spirulina, chlorella, moringa, and a bunch of other exotic fruit and plant powders (camu camu too with a high Vitamin C content). I will check out zeolite. As long as it hasn't already absorbed cesium from the environment then I'm interested. I was unfortunately eating dulse (red sea lettuce powder) "from the pristine coastal waters of Canada", but it turned out it was already contaminated, as my pancake style tube said so (260 CPM, Timed counts above 200 CPM consistently).

        I do monitor my Geiger 24/7, and while it is logging min/max/avg/current values internally, I would like to get it running to the NETC network, or ar least for my own uses logging by the minute (or count). I've been so busy with trying to keep up with energetic family life that I can't even get the will power to mow the yard. I have more energy at night right now, at least to type this and also log another rainstorm that's happening now.

        This new rainstorm of Pacific moisture now isn't anywhere as bad as the storm 6 days ago. I found that a good way to log with the PRM-9000 the manualway (until I get software and a data cable) is to do 5 minute timed measures, record time, location (east porch), and CPM. This way I can at least evaluate 5 minute periods and make notes each interval. Before this new light rain began, I measured 23 CPM out on tbe east porch. I saw it gradually climb to 28, 33, 33 again, 36, 38, 41, back down to 37, 36, 33, 31, 31 again.

  • lilclover

    Where are you, Lickerface?

  • Daisy207

    Hi Kassandra. Just did some calculations and the table I referred to before makes even less sense. 1 gm of Cs 137 emits 3.2 Terabequerel (1 trillion Bq – or counts per second). 1 mg would emit would be 1000 less or 1 billion bequerel. If say the mass was 1 mg/L 1×10^9Bq – now they might be able to measure to micrograms/L but not much less – the detection limits for metals is not as low as for organic constituents. But even if they measured down to a microgram/L they would still be at 1×10^6 Bq – or 1 million counts per second. They can't measure lower than that for sure – so the Bq counts still don't make any sense if measuring for a specific component. The Bq counts reported are WAY BELOW the detection limits of the instruments and must have been calculated based on a very small sample (not a Liter for sure)-maybe a ml – and are mathematically impossible – even with that small of a sample you would still be at three significant figures greater than 0.

    • Skip Intro Skip Intro

      I think you can count the counts, and measure the beta or gamma energy to determine which decay produced it.

  • weeman

    I think it is closer to a dirty bomb than a nuclear bomb, a nuclear bomb has a few kilos vapourized but the nuclear facility at Fukushima had how much, just remind me and most was not vapiourized, big difference.

    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      A nuclear bomb has about 50 pounds of radioative material, plus or minus a few:

      Say a really big bomb has 200 pounds of radioative material.

      Now, #3 was loaded with several hundred tons of MOX fuel, plus what was loaded in the SPF. I'd say at least a quarter went up in the blast, aerosolized into the atmosphere, so that's at least a few tons or two.

      A ton is significantly larger than 200 pounds.

      Was there an extensive blast radius, similar to a true thermonuclear weapon?


      Was it the largest 'dirty' bomb in the history of this planet, spewing trillions of uranium and plutonium dust particles across the entire planet, guaranteed to kill any living thing that happens to breath in or ingest even one micro particle?


  • dosdos dosdos

    In Unit #3, there was a hydrogen explosion that traversed the building from north to south, followed by a nuclear detonation. The film clearly shows this. First was a white flash on the north side of the building, facing Unit #2, then a white flash on the south side of the building facing Unit #4. Then about a second later, the explosion became evident, with the orange flash, sending the dark cloud skyward.

    The timing of this has one logical explanation, which I explained two and a half years ago. It was the layered molten core that detonated. It happened because it was MOX, and the authorities don't publicly admit the possibility, because it would be the immediate end of fuel reprocessing world-wide

    When the core melted, it settled on the concrete pad in layers. On the bottom was the uranium oxide, being the heaviest compound in the core. Second was the plutonium oxide, being the second heaviest. Above that, you had all the fission by products, including the ever popular cesium and iodine up near the top. These items, being primarily oxides, are not inclined to mix chemically. This means this layer of hot core is sitting there on the concrete, eating away at the moisture in the concrete.

    Before I go on, LEU (low enriched uranium) fuel works by careful spacing of the rods in the assemblies, held down by the damping rods in between them. The spacing insures that the neutron bombardment required to sustain a criticality stays relatively constant.


    • dosdos dosdos

      MOX fuel works differently. The plutonium oxide is used as the neutron source, essentially as an exciter, and the uranium is spaced farther apart so that they don't spontaneously maintain a criticality. The reaction is controlled by the placement of the plutonium in the reactor. The closer the plutonium and uranium, the greater the criticality.

      So, you have these layers of uranium oxide and plutonium oxide in direct contact, spread out over the concrete pad. There are ripples from drips and pings from the concrete popping, but it's a relative stable criticality. It's not a massive criticality despite the area of contact because the layers are fairly thin. It's in a balanced criticality. The neutron count from Unit#3 before the detonation was pretty constant by those monitoring a few miles up the coast.

      Now, add a building wide hydrogen deflagration. This sends a shockwave throughout the building, including the molten core down on the base concrete, which acts as a directional unifier for the shockwave. The effect is that the uranium oxide later and plutonium oxide layer have a very strong mixing. Instead of being separate, you have the layers occupying
      the same layer, in direct contact throughout the full mass of the molten puddle of core.


    • dosdos dosdos

      At this point of mixing, there was a massive neutron burst on a horizontal plane, in line with gravity's effect on the spread of the molten core. The neutron pulse was measured at several monitoring stations at sea level, but it was hardly registering in monitoring aircraft and stations up in the mountains. If it had been the SFP, the neutron pulse would have been more omnidirectional. If it had been the SFP, it would have cracked open, and the racks would not be recognized as such.

      It also explains why the explosion went up instead of out. Think of a claymore mine pointing skyward, or a massive nuclear mortar. The path of least resistance, where the meltdown had done the most containment damage in Unit #3, went toward the SFP, and it took off the roof above SFP.

      This scenario fits the facts best. The sequence, the physics, the results, all fit what we learned of the event in the first few days before the big hush and denial began. Simply put, it was a MOX detonation, triggered by the hydrogen explosion's shockwave. No one in the nuclear industry wants to talk about this. Just think of all the reprocessing centers that would have to shut down.

  • dosdos dosdos

    Let me also add, there were two massive neutron bursts recorded back in 3/11. The first one happened when Unit 3# went up. The second was the next day when they heard the mysterious explosion in Unit #2. Now you see the difference in LEU and MOX during a meltdown induced criticality.

  • rogerthat

    Yeah, 2 per cent, i like that, ha ha ha

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Shut them down! Talk about it and then shut them all down… 🙂

    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      actually, nuclear is going full radioactive steam ahead. Our injunctions to each other do very little if anything to stop nuclear. Some other method needs to be considered, if we really want to stop nuclear insanity. Just go to a mental health institution and plead and petition the patients to stop acting crazy…see how effective that is

      • flatsville

        Lawsuits do work in many cases. Been involved in two recently that shut things down cold. Doesn't mean you'll never be back in court, but often excessive delay where financing is concerned can kill a plant.

        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          flatsville, congratulations on the lawsuits. With nuclear in India, China, Russia (on floating docks no less), Pakistan…etc etc, its easy to extrapolate from Fukushima that the demise of the planet is assured. In order to delay the inevitable, ALL plants must be decommissioned, especially in those foreign lands where QC is questionable. Do you have faith that the lawsuits can do this? Getting shot by 350 bullets instead of 400 doesn't make too much difference

          • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

            Code, flatsville could be a crucial/critical link here and as an experienced lawyer he understands how screwed we all are with the current living law which has been created through designer "Word Craft" techniques.

            He needs to assemble an "army of lawyers" from all over the world that will come in unison to the table via the internet and then proceed forward legally shutting all these Nuke Pukes down world wide… 🙂

            He is our best hope if he "raises the bar" inclusive of/with thousands of international lawyers and he must move/assemble these teams quickly as the end game is upon us all….

  • rogerthat

    dosdos, you hear three separate blasts on the slow-mo tape of no 3. so hydrogen on south side, hydrogen on north side, then nuclear? the orange flash went out at a diagonal to the right from the base or near the base, if i remember?

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    I thought this was a mental health institution.. 🙂

  • rogerthat

    also, on unit two, presume most of the core still there (underground), which is why it is so hot and why the workers see it as the real danger?

  • zardoz2012 zardoz2012

    One thing is for certain. Because of Fukushima our species will either thrive or die. This is the end of the 100,000 year status quo.

    Our children will be so angry with us for leaving them this legacy that they will have to thoroughly examine the error of our ways and avoid them, thus evolving the species. They will have to change in nature physically and spiritually in order to handle and maintain this never-ending nightmare.

    Did you ever see "Lost" Season 2? We got ourselves into a situation where every 108 minutes someone is going to have to go and reset the countdown clock or else there will be another "incident". We will be prisoners of responsibility and prisoners on the island, never having a chance to really rest or sleep while we are alive, forever. That will change the way everyone thinks about life and existence.

  • zardoz2012 zardoz2012

    There are many iterations of Existence. Things don't always have to go right in this one.

    Yes, this could actually all end sadly. No Hollywood ending here. Wah wah… 🙁

    It doesn't mean that you wont go on. It just means that this iteration is over. Then you end up in the "airport terminal" or "church" waiting with friends until the next iteration.

    Didn't you know that you use this rock as a playground? You are the timeless destroyers of worlds.

    Enjoy the show. Look at the stars! There are billions of worlds. On to the next!

    • unincredulous unincredulous

      But the girl you love let you kiss her…

      See you on the next world. Don't be late.

      • zardoz2012 zardoz2012

        Yes she did. It was worth the wait. I'd wait a million years for her.

        But if the world ends now it's okay because at least I found her and I got to kiss her. My dream girl.

  • paschn

    Hmmm, "Reactor Designer". Would that designer be a present/former General Electric designer or just a sub-contractor of same? Who's idea was it to set 6 reactors in such a precarious location?

    • Sickputer

      "Whose idea was it to set 6 reactors in such a precarious location?"

      SP: The military, the nuclear engineers, politicians and banksters. The whole coven of nucleoapes are complicit in their guilt.

      Economics trumps safety. The big megaplexes exist by the scores. Even separating units by 500 yards would help in future accident scenario, but the designers show their arrogance for safety.

      Putting near the ocean is Big Engineering Mistake number 2.

      • Building near the ocean means they don't need to build 'cooling towers'.

        That 'supposedly' makes it cheaper.


        Now we know that Nuclear Power IS the most costly way to boil water that anybody ever thought of. The true costs, to life, can no longer be covered up or calculated with bogus statistics and phoney risk assessments.

  • Nick

    On thursday night, 3/10/11 I asked my two sons if the had ever seen The China Syndrome. No they hadn't. I explained the movie and the prescient line about "contaminating an area the size of Pennsylvania" (movie released before TMI). I told them how horrible it was for me to be in Washington State when TMI went critical, knowing most of my loved ones were down-wind in and around Philadelphia. When news of TMI came out to us (pre-Internet) on the west coast I knew it was worse than we were told. Ofcourse it wasn't until years later that my instincts proved true. We then watched you-tube clips of TMI and a trailer for The China Syndrome.

    When I saw the boys the next time, 3/11 had happened and the nuclear horror unleashed.

    To this day they still think I am haunted.

    But I am grateful that we had our talks about my horror of TMI, BEFORE 3/11. For, by doing so, they are better prepared to discern their own truths about what happened (and is happening).

    When unit ! went it was scary. When Unit 3 went it was "Dad, this is real time? How did you know?" "Weren't we just talking about TMI.?"

    I still reflect on my prescient fears on the night of 3/10/11.

    But the reality haunts us all. Forever.

    • bwoodfield bwoodfield

      Speaking of odd coincidences and Fukushima, at the time I was active on the Bad Astronomer/Universe Today forum. Less than a week before hand, in their off topic section I asked about a "worse case scenario" and if everything got shut down. The comment I received was that the cooling systems have diesel back-up generators in case the main power supply goes down, and the chances of those being knocked out are a million to one.

      • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

        Spooky and certainly a premonition and yes they happen as part of the Force..

      • Time Is Short Time Is Short

        "…the chances of those being knocked out are a million to one."

        Saying "I told you so" just doesn't seem to matter anymore.

  • Nick

    For many, Japan may seem like a distant land, removed from our lives anywhere USA. But for me, Japan is a part of my own upbringing. My great-grandparents lived in a house in Tokyo from 1900-1941. This house survived the firestorms of WWII and years later, my sister conceived her first born son in the same house.
    My grandfather grew up in Japan, schooled in the USA and then returned to practice medicine until 1936.

    He came home one fateful night after overhearing his Japanese colleagues say "we don't need Western doctors anymore", and told his wife…"we have to leave" They then settled in Honolulu, where he practiced medicine until 1963. He left his parents, who didn't get out until August 1941 on the last boat out of Yokohama harbor. They joined him in Honolulu later.

    December 7, 1941 was my mother's 12 birthday. She still remembers her father saying "those aren't American planes……."

    Yes, Japan has unleashed an unspeakable horror on the world. But it was our hatred of them that dropped the bombs. And it was our military that helped set-up the weapons grade plants all over Honshu.

    I weep for the children that will never be born, and for those whose DNA is forever scrambled.

    • Time Is Short Time Is Short

      "But it was our hatred of them that dropped the bombs."

      I don't know if it was our hatred of them as much as we wanted to send a clear message to Russia what we had.

      Many people say .gov already knew they Japanese were going to surrender.

      And the Japanese civilians didn't matter . . .

  • Shaker1


    Perhaps you might consider adding the input of your geiger at this site:

    It's explained how it's done. A new site is RadioactivePDX. Also a site with public input, but I haven't looked into their methodology and wonder if you'd feel it relevant to you. It's at:

    Another interesting site has a display that is generated using data from 10 air-sampling stations in the US EPA's RadNet monitoring network. Doesn't allow input and isn't comparable to one's geiger, it does place counts in CPM presumably from a greater array of isotopes than the standard personal machine. It is at:

    • lickerface lickerface

      To be honest, I've been somewhat put off from NETC after sending links to it on a forum which I am very active. I was ridiculed for posting a source with "likely" fake readings because of the biblical references on NETC. The people who ridiculed me were obviously seeing credibility go down the drain when the saw a bible verse because they are not religious fanatics. If NETC would appear more neutral, I feel my efforts in contributing measurements would be accepted by all visitors. I know religion can't be spoken about here, but the truth needs to be known that the bible reference on that site is alienating certain audiences. What can one do? Obviously the NETC site owner is pretty set on making the reference and might not change their ways.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    My oral surgeon was born in Japan in 1947 and he died a horrible cancer filled death in his 40's and he was making 20K per month and so much for chasing that/those dangling money carrots via extensive costly education/practices.

    His genes were scrambled by the best DNA scramblers on the planet which are radiation contamination in all forms. 🙁

  • Seeker

    Please listen to Shimatsu on yesterday. He answers a lot of issues raised here and raises ones I have never seen raised here. It will save your time.

  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Listened to it and Rense is usually always on the leading edge and most of this, for we who are aware, makes perfect sense and there is definitely a pattern in play.. recommended listen for sure! 🙂

  • Nick

    How many people in your daily travels talk about Fukushima as an ongoing nightmare? How many even care that Unit 3 was a nuclear explosion, spewing it's deadly toxins, not just far and away geographically, but temporally as well? (that is far and further, forever into the future?

    Reason? One maybe that we aren't supposed to know, to care, to ponder the horror. But rather focus
    (from websites 10 minutes ago)
    Fox News = No background checks for felons for Obamacare
    CNN = Igcognito
    NBC = Christie
    NYtimes = Blasio
    Huffingtonpost = Blockbuste(d) Video

    You would think that we'd at least have a sidebar on websites, updating the catastrophe that will
    impact us all, not beyond the next election cycle, but until the end of the solar system.


    It's obvious that we'll all have to come to our own conclusions.

    The extent of the cover-up is so total that even I really have no inkling of how horrible our future is to become.

    I guess it's time for us all to embrace global mass insanity (GMI) since there are signs that it has already begun.

  • Patrick-Henry Patrick-Henry

    Patrick here NOT Hatrick…

    Kyodo News and NHK reported on this item:

    Our crack Marine radiological team went to Fukushima at the tail end of March 2011 and were there for 19 days before they left…seemingly without doing anything…

    I believe they were picking up the weapons grade Plutonium scattered on the ground…

    There was PU everywhere at that site…

    I'm trying to remember where I caught another article about members of that team having cancer…

    It's nice to see the Plutonium admission showing up more prominently…

  • Socrates

    Reading the comments above is very sobering. Surprisingly, few of my friends even think about events in Fukushima. People need to become aware of what happened. They need to protect themselves and plan for new, bigger potential disasters.

    The worst case scenario is so remote in anyone's mind except for the few of us here and some readers around the world. Assuming the worst, there will be horrific consequences, maybe the end of life as we know it. Not Dark Ages but Stone Ages. With the human genome effectively destroyed, and cancer and other morbidity, there will be no escape; sooner or later the thousands of tons of fuel will enter the biosphere and work its way up the food chain.

    This is a tale of obsession with a nuclear-obsesssed Ahab on the Pequod like in Moby Dick. We are like Ishmael, except that we will not live to tell any tales.

  • voltscommissar

    DCH = Direct Containment Heating = Catastrophic failure of containment 3/14/11 is my vote of the Unit 3 failure mode, though dosdos might be right. We are all in the dark…

    The Black mushroom cloud was very likely a near-simultaneous failure of the RPV and the containment structures. The computer modelling of this failure mode of GE Mk1 reactors was done in the 1970s. The transient orange flash emanating from the SE corner of Unit 3 building has been described by Gundersen as a prompt moderated criticality of SFP3. Gundersen *may* know that the RPV/containment failure has all the hallmarks of DCH, but he is not saying one way or the other.

    The guy to ask is retired nuke physicist Kenneth D Bergeron who wrote the book "Tritium on Ice". I have posted at enenews before on this topic, and I still think Bergeron's excellent and readable description of DCH is by far the best-fit with observed events. DCH is *not* a nuclear explosion, but the moderated propmt criticality is sort of a mini nuclear explosion: i.e both events certainly qualify as weeman's dirty bomb.

    See also my contribution here:

    My contrast-enhanced, slowmo video of the Unit 3 DCH is still online here (watch in HD full-screen, apologies about the non-fluent voiceover, need media training)

  • dave14139

    Most frightening is the hands-off attitude of the American news services. NO investigation into the lying and misinformation that come from the US government and US nuclear experts and industry. VERY scary when the news and government are joined at the hip. Who is left to keep the nuclear industry honest. Similar silence now regarding the WIPP facility leak.

  • starvethebeast

    NUKE PROTESTERS! A suggestion…before we die from radiation…effort to gently disarm every cop & military person you know & don't know and explain that when they see you protesting at a nuke construction site to please bear in mind:
    -we are there to protect their children too (carry a pic of a Chernoble victim-a potent & effective reminder that humanities future is at stake)
    -will there will never be a better reason to take a stand
    -they are one of us "We the People"
    -please bludgeon gently, someone out here might be someone you love…..
    ….anything warm, humorous, or creatively endearing that comes to mind…..
    The idea is to connect with their humanity, making a personal contact, before the time they come face to face with a protester, it may save a life/gain a comrade.
    Will there EVER be a better time to try "wild n crazy"?