Published: February 5th, 2012 at 3:43 pm ET
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Title: Attention : Reactor 2 is still being heated
Source: Fukushima Diary
Date: Feb 5, 2012
Since 11:00AM of 2/5/2012, the temperature of the container vessel has increased even more.
- 11:00AM : 68.6℃
- 4:00PM : 71.7℃ (+3.1℃)
[...] When it becomes over 80.0℃, they are supposed to warn the local governments.
Read the report here
Source: Chunichi (Babelfish Translation)
Source: Yomiuri (Babelfish Translation)
Published: February 5th, 2012 at 3:43 pm ET
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great - "enviro-fa scist ...
if we get thru this thing, someone...
sending...
Yes, I have always thought Unit 2 might be the sleeper unit to blow the whole megaplex. The intense radiation has made it virtually impossible for carbon forms to approach. If Unit 2 blows it will be difficult to continue any work for awhile and that could be disastrous for the feed and bleed efforts as well as the stability work at Unit 4.
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So the heating is gaining speed, right? During past 4 days an average increase of 5°C per day – now 3°C in 5 hours, which could result in plus 14°C at this time tomorrow. Which makes 85°C.
Total speculation of course, I really hope they will be able to solve this with increased cooling.
I wish I could understand Japanese twitter news right now.
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Conversions for Fahrenheit.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001731.html
The boiling point of water is 100°C or 212° F at 1 atmosphere of pressure (sea level) http://chemistry.about.com/od/howthingswork/f/boiling-point-of-water.htm
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I still have not figured out the secret to how they get steam inside of a reactor that is below the boiling point of water, a la the endoscope exam?
Maybe this is some kind of new water, with a radically different boiling point?
When nothing makes logical sense, my brain goes haywire as well, and I start spouting insanity as well.. like clicking red shoes and witches.. no offense. I love Pagans.
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hmm I bet staving off the inevitable, but what the hell, is it possible to drill again to release without blowing? Maybe towards the middle on the side adjacent to #3?? it’s right there…turd shaped hole underground, hard to get water in that without drilling..
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They should have been drilling months ago but it’s too hot and obviously isn’t getting any better. I wish there was a solution and I do hope someone is working on it as we post. This is just unreal, NO NUKES
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Click your red heels together on your glittering shiny red high heel shoes, and repeat after me;
These reactors are all in cold shutdown. As long as I keep smiling, radiation cannot hurt me.
The wicked witch of the west is lying to you with these rising temperature readings and she is also responsible for the fake steam found in Reactor 2 after endoscope was inserted..She is also the source of all this radiation that continues to pour out of these reactors and spent fuel pools… it had NOTHING to do with the meltdown, explosions, and melt throughs.
I have a couple of extra red shiny high heel shoes if anyone needs some..
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…] When it becomes over 80.0℃, they are supposed to warn the local governments.
what might “local” mean inside of a 30 mile total evacuation zone?
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earth
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Nuclear Power Plants and the Dangers of Radiation in North America
Reader’s Comment
by Hugh Fairney
Why aren’t the national governments on a global basis, forcing the Japanese government and TEPCO to do the same? Yet, nothing is being done.
Do I have the right to express my opinion here about this issue? Yes I do. Our various governments around this world of ours; appear to be deliberately withholding information that is vital to the health and safety of every human being on this planet. Somebody had to start the ball rolling. I am thusly, very glad that Professor Michel Chossudovsky along with others mentioned in his article have started the process. It really is about time!
However, what do I know? I am just one of the so-called “great unwashed.” It appears our various governments are more concerned with their own illusory opinions than the opinions of the ordinary soul. So what conclusion can I now reach?
Since the advent of the Fukushima disaster, every single person in this world now lives on an increasingly radiated planet. Perhaps the retirement community my friend and I discarded, as not feasible due to radon levels is now appropriate to consider.
After all, thanks to TEPCO, it doesn’t matter where one now lives. It can easily be said that on a global basis, we are being significantly radiated, wherever we live!!! What a marvellous thought to have to consider and live with!
In the meantime, all I can say is that until this issue affecting the health and safety of everybody on this planet becomes front-page news; we will continue to be conned in our governments’ deliberately created illusory world, while our planet becomes slowly over time, uninhabitable for human life, as it now is.
Global Research Articles by Hugh Fairney
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=29082
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The jnn camera keeps zooming into building 2. Wonder what is going on.
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If the cam is showing you close-ups of building 2, you can bet your life the problem is somewhere else!
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Fukushima…..malignant and warm.
Fukushima…..non-stop dirty bomb.
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For all the people clicking their red shoes together, do you realize that the ‘red shoes’ in the Wizard of Oz movie were a disinformation lie? The *original* Wizard of Oz story was a parable of the benefits of a sound, silver-based currency. Dorothy’s shoes were originally silver. But the movie deliberately obscured the political message of the popular story.
See the ‘Wizard of Oz’ links among others here:
http://everist.org/archives/links/!_Silver_links.txt
As for reactor #2… There’s an unknown configuration of melted corium, somewhere underneath the reactor. It might well still be molten, and undergoing bursts of criticality. Heat at the bottom of the pressure vessel will mostly be getting there via steam produced from water in contact with the corium, rising then condensing around the outside of the PV. Trying to deduce *anything* about what’s happening, via a few (possibly broken) temp sensors on the PV, is, well, it’s TEPCO-level stupid. (That’s far above ‘massively stupid’, well into ‘criminally stupid’, and probably reaching ‘Darwin Award Stupid.’)
TEPCO have an access to the interior of the #2 containment vessel that they used for the video endoscope farce. The right way to tell what’s really happening down below, is to take gas samples and analyze the isotopic ratios.
That they (pretend) to not be doing that, can only mean the answers would be (are) too terrifying.
It’s really time to start shooting people responsible for such outrageous lying and mishandling of the situation.
It would be fascinating to sit back and wait to see how long it takes the Japanese people to realize what must be done. If, in the meantime, this wasn’t killing the planet.
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I’m truly afraid the Japanese people will collectively resign themselves to slow motion death rather than challenge their precious corporate institutions (keiretsu) and their cultural model of politeness and decency.
The very things which helped to make them a great and powerful nation after WWII, and an economic powerhouse in the world, are now KILLING THEM.
Maybe us, too.
But we still need to ask, why isn’t there more pressure brought to bear on this situation from the international community? Why?????
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HoTaters re your “why isn’t there more pressure brought to bear on this situation from the international community?”
Fact: All “pressure” so far exerted – including, if we recall, an offer of full technical assistance from the Russians, who have the “best” experience in large scale reactor explosions – has had no effect as far as we can observe from the outside.
Assumption: Much pressure has in fact been exerted.
Let’s compare this with what we see in the parallel universe, with a simple example that has come up here time and again, and outside in the MSM; I have two such examples from the U K Independent. In this parallel universe a pronuclear propagandist is asked to go to that part of Japan and prove with his/her own life their assertion of zero risk to health. What happens? exactly: nothing. Of course they are not going to sit near the reactor, breathe the air, drink the water, eat the food.
Poison Pill.
What happened to that mighty US Aircraft Carrier after the Unit 3 ["this is not a nuclear"] explosion?
They scooted. Fast. And then scrubbed the ship clean. Remember the commander’s comments about learning everything about radiation in zero time?
The USA has heaps of military in bases on and around Japan. They are supposed to have a strong friendly relationship.
The USA does nothing but run for cover in spite of their massive investment over the years and their massive military presence in Japan.
There is no squeak from the Chinese, the Phillipines, the Koreans [of whatever shade]. The Chinese are now a powerful industrial and military power and they have a direct interest in airborne and waterborne radiocontamination.
So, the neighbours, and the closest political friends, of Japan, are not getting involved.
Again, as you say, “Why?????”
Poison Pill.
My deduction, for what it may be worth, is simply fear of the consequences of exposing one’s citizens/military to whatever level of radiation is actually there.
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Just because it is a certain temperature near the special thermometer, does not ensure that temperature is the same throughout, like homogenised milk.
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Like homogenised milk?? What’s that got to do with temperature?
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Of course while the differential in temperature is high (Hot fuel rods/Cold water.) , limited cooling can be obtained in a non-pressurised cooling system.
The way i think of this is like an engine with a busted radiatior hose. The pressure keeps the coolant from boiling, but if pressure is lost and ordinary atmospheric pressure is obtained, then the engine can easily go on a thermal runnaway because when water turns to steam, it vastly ceases to be a coolant at all.
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The ostrich brigade is finally pulling their heads out of the sand and seeing that this cold shutdown is warming up again. I’ll put this in simple language so that joe sheeple can understand. RUN!
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Now 73.3 degrees:
“A thermometer at the bottom of the reactor showed 73.3 degrees Celsius on Monday morning. It was around 45 degrees on January 27th and 71.7 degrees at 4 PM on Sunday.
(…)
It says the flow of water in the reactor may have changed after plumbing work, causing difficulties in cooling the nuclear fuel. (…)
TEPCO says the regulations set after the state of cold shutdown was achieved require the utility to keep temperatures inside the reactors below 80 degrees.
So it says the No.2 reactor is still in the state of cold shutdown.”
Pathetic.
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/20120206_17.html
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Asahi says: “TEPCO will analyze gas in the reactor within a few days to check whether a chain of nuclear fission has occurred again in the melted fuel.”
Within a few days? Oh yes, of course! They hope to stop the reaction via cooling, vent a few times, take gas samples next weekend, voila, all is fine! No fission!
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to BreadAndButter re your “TEPCO will analyze gas in the reactor within a few days to check whether a chain of nuclear fission has occurred again in the melted fuel.”:
So, admission of recriticality.
AT BLOODY LAST!
I think that this is all we need. Especially when reported in this weasel way, an admission of recriticality is the first and last counter argument to all that puff about it not being possible.
Well done, Asahi.
The road is beginning to open up, at bloody last.
[apologies to anyone upset by intemperate language but this little phrase is something we've needed for 12 hellish months, and we should pardon ourselves for the sensation of excitement and relief]
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Hi Misitu, I don’t see Tepco admitting anything? “…checking WHETHER..bla bla”. They will check to follow expectations, just to declare all is fine, cold shutdown conditions, citizens can return.
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B+B, just to mention the magic word “again” which is what prompted my excursion into speculation. If they print that word then they admit to a previous criticality. Tepco-style, that might/may well mean them weaseling in other previous criticalities, as suspected by some of our goodselves here.
There are a multitude of streamers of truth and falsehood, and all the in betweens, emanating from the fuxu calamity. I agree with you on the “citizens can return” issue and have teased that out a bit on this site. But I also enjoy those moments when Tepco/Japgov, in their haste to publish and avoid their own backbiters, use a word which does the cause of fraud more harm than good.
Someone managed to get the word “again” out, and we need to be truly thankful for that, while the Tepco/Japgov Truth Inspector was out having a tea or cigarette break.
Little acorns, mighty oaks, etc.
Cheers!
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ok.. so according to the press release, …they measured,
… “we confirmed that the concentration of x-135 was below the detectable level…” it goes on to say “…continuing to monitor the trend as it is still showing a high value.” (how can there be a higher trending measurement for something that was below detectable levels of measurement?)
..and further states, “we injected boric acid as a safety measure against recriticality..”
so.. we measured no xenon, but trend continued rising in the unmeasured xenon, so we added boric acid to prevent recriticality.
dang translating tepco speak is tiring
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http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/12020703-e.html
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lights on
i understand it now
cold shutdown !!
tepco like to, cold shut down the human !
not the corium , the human are the expensive! so they will do cold shut down the Human there , and good radiation for all ,
and all must pay tax for live in Radiation. its a cheap drug and anyone must sell for the radiation health drug so you will go strong and healthy !! come on live here in Fukushima , Is healthy and prophylactically( sarkas.)
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Black humour, well said. Thanks for your passion Bleifrei.
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