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Reactor No. 2 temperature steadily trending downward — Is gauge broken?
Temperature at bottom of Reactor No. 2 pressure vessel, via Tepco handout:
EX-SKF adds: It doesn’t look like the behavior of a thermocouple that has been broken, but what would I know?
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Posted BUT thought I'd let you know, Posters HERE have been mentioning Japan: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/14/russia-nuclear-disaster-submarine-fire_n_1276660.html#comments
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mhh
1. gauge brocken
2. gauge clear but melt is move deeper
3. fresh cool water riesing nearly nothing changes
4. small set a going cool
what ever ..we only can wait …
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"Nuclear power and mankind cannot coexist. We survivors of the atomic bomb have said this all along. And yet, the use of nuclear power was camouflaged as 'peaceful' and continued to progress. You never know when there's going to be a natural disaster. You can never say that there will never be a nuclear accident."
Sumiteru Taniguchi 2011
82 year old Survivor Of Hiroshima
Wonder if Sumiteru is still alive and if he's joined forces with Helen. Got to hope so…
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Water has a very high specific heat and excellent conductor.
Air has a lower specific heat and not so good at heat transfer.
Part of the mass has volatilized which will decrease the mass available for critical mass. The mass is getting smaller??
A main corium has melted through the vessel and is further away from the thermometer – is covered in an insulating slag.??
A star (A point of intense heat) that is evaporating??
Just throwing some material for the 'brains trust'.
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A jumble of yet to be tidied up thoughts on the matter.
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Something else i am considering is that the water that was pumped in at such a high rate was carrying away any volatilized radionuclide's if there was a thermal criticality under water, which may have entrained the nukes and were thus prevented from going up into the air this time.
It may mean that some/most of the nukes in the reactor are now in the sea somewhere. Perhaps that is where the fallout is this time. This means there will be less mass and less decay heat to remove back at the reactor..
That is probably why they borated the water so that the volatilized radionuclide's in the water were moderated also or the water itself may have gone thermally critical with all the extra neutrons around.
Not an expert, just thinking out aloud trying to a grip.
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Bleifrei, I have a 5th suggestion that could offer another, but much darker idea:
The water injected into the trashed reactor was directed directly at the thermometers. A quake disturbed the flow of water away from one of the thermometers and the temperature readings soared. Now they are slowly redirecting the water back at the thermometer so as to accomplish "cold shutdown" once more.
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New Tweet Japan's nuclear safety standards called flawed (duh)
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h2WxBuXiwggj-Ku2q4I9PeE1TaIg?docId=8a92f8b145124517bcb799c21ce40025
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@ whoopie
There are no reliable safety standards
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to bad TEPCO is not Pinocchio, there nose would B so long they could safely pick up core material
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!!!!!!!!!
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The analogy is not that bad.
You can still ask yourself if Tepco is acting on its own accord or if someone else is pulling the strings behind the scene.
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Great. Who? Are we witnesses of a new conspiracy theory? Do we need them anyway or are the atrocities which take place enough? We could blame ourselves as well because we all are licking the candy stick!
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Ticker tape on GMA Oregon had a 6. something eq? Can anyone verify?
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http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/Maps/US10/37.47.-130.-120.php
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Roughly 80 miles SSW of the Axial Seamount.
http://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/Glossary/PlateTectonics/Maps/map_juan_de_fuca_ridge.html
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Yep, was there for it. Had g/f get dressed in case tsunami sirens went off. Luckily, no. Maybe waterfront property not such a Great Idea? Think I'll risk it a little longer.
cheers
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Wow!! Stay safe labm!
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Where you at lab? I'm on the coast, OR almost to CA……didn't feel it, but happened to see it on usgs site.
Check it out…the only place just about on the whole ring of fire that hasn't relieved pressure in a long time.
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PoorDaddy: Hmm..I guess this means the tectonic plates are on the move.
From Earthquake Reporters channel:"EQ Meridian Migration Feb 13-15, 2012
EQReporter | Feb 14, 2012 | 123 views
Strong meridian migration has been found today.This may indicate a Kinetic Energy Transfer through tectonic plates may continue to produce strong earthquakes along this meridian in the coming days.
http://www.youtube.com/user/EQReporter"
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We are close for sure, I don't want to give out too much info in public. Let's say half way between the Walmarts, a local will get it and everybody else will be confused.
No damage, saw it red on http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/ and looked close and Big, Had been doing Valentine recreation so not feeling it actually was no surprise…..kept refreshing on tsunami alert and stayed green, so relaxed after 30 miinutes or so.
We are up about 50 foot cliff and big hill (1000 ft maybe more) close.
cheers dude, might get together one day
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62 ft. above sea level on a bench…..Fuku tsunami vids looked alot like home!
Between Walmarts…now thats funny….but, howdy neighbor!
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EQ right near the margin where the Pacific and Juan de Fuca plates converge.
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Yeah PoorDaddy,…'shes' pretty much up and under you and I. Cheers!
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Mornin Jill…..
You were complaining about getting lies for Valentines Day yesterday, so I sent you a valentine…..here it is again.
Happy day after V Day!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZqYzCI14NI&feature=share
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I will INDEED be YOUR Valentine PoorDaddy! (Pardon me G/F,…it's only in our dreams for now)!
I did not see this last night,…Grrrrrrrrrrr.
Thanks for hearing my whimper in the night, my friend!
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I read quite awhile back that much of the government had left Tokyo for other areas in Japan.
I wonder about the contingency plans for the PTB–underground, for the length of the isotope halflives?! Outer space? Or remain on Earth's surface with their secret radiation antidotes?
I wonder if, as psychopaths, they are even sane.
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If we non-billionaires were smarter, we would be watching where the wealthiest are or aren't and chart these trends. I'm certain that the results would be quite telling.
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Prince William and his new wife, Catherine, are in the Falkland Islands, where he is stationed. I've been noticing they have spent most of their time in the Southern Hemisphere since they were married. To me, it is not a coincidence. Effort to preserve genetic material intact?
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http://articles.cnn.com/2011-11-10/world/world_europe_uk-prince-william_1_royal-air-force-falklands-britain-and-argentina?_s=PM:EUROPE
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/prince-william-falkland-islands-stint-277583
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/people/royalwatch/news/article_1689161.php/Prince-William-to-be-deployed-to-the-Falkland-islands-today
Apparently William is only stationed there for six weeks, but the couple has spent lots of time in the S. Hemisphere — goodwill tour to Australia just after their marriage, a honeymoon in the Seychelles, in Indian Ocean east of Africa. They have spent time in Scotland and Wales, too, and have a place at Kensington Palace. Just wondering how much time they're spending in parts south, and when.
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Dear Open: They, our erstwhile power elite, of course, are NOT sane. Here and there they may be pleasant to interact with; but definitely they are not sane. Three ponderously large pieces of evidence are: Fukushima meltdowns and no worldwide cessation of all other nuclear power and weapons endeavors, anthropogenic thermal maximum (it's worse than just the euph. "global warming" or even worse doublespeak "climate change") and anthropogenic (from the first two) mass extinctions. Humans, including the wealthiest and heads of the most violent and polluting industries and governmental organizations are all EQUALLY vulnerable to the effects of these. Absolutely, the status quo powers are the most insane.
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Or ever sane?
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Is the temperature trending downward? Is propaganda for illegitimate states and the greediest to prevent revolution a job ever done? Happy Valentines Day.
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Posting the RSOE EDIS version …
http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/site/?pageid=event_desc&edis_id=NC-20120215-34172-JPN
Nuclear Disaster Minister-Goshi Hosono says reactor 2 is in cold shutdown.
And he is a liar.
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I THINK HIS IDEAR IS FAIR I CAN EMAGEN ALL THE GASSES INCLUDING OXIGEN BUILDING UP UNDER COMPRSSION UNTIL YOU GET SELF EXPOLDING MIX ABIT LIKE THE BIG BANG I SUPPOSE. I CAN EMAGEN IT WOULD BURN FOR A FEW DAYS THEN COOL UNTIL THE NEXT REACTION I SUPPOSE THATS WHY THEY CALL IT A REACTOR THATS THE DIFFERANCE TO A COLD SHUT DOWN AND A CONSTANT BURNING OF THE GASSES IT SEEMS TO MAKES SENCE TO ME THAT THE TEMP WIL GO UP AND DOWN IN SPIKES IT SEEMS THE REACTOR IS WORKING AND HOLDING DOWN THE PRESHER OF THE GASSES IGNIGHTING.
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