“Really troubling” wind shift said NRC: 1,000 microSv thyroid dose south of Tokyo over ten hour period on Mar. 14 reported US Navy — 300km from Fukushima — “This reminds me of the drill”

Published: March 1st, 2012 at 10:24 pm ET
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Title: NRC’s Operation Center Fukushima Transcript
Source: NRC
Date: March 14, 2011

[...] CHAIRMAN JACZKO: Do you have any updated information for us?

JIM TRAPP: Yeah. Now this is another subject, but I think this takes precedence over the issue of the reactor at the moment.

CHAIRMAN JACZKO: Yep.

JIM TRAPP: What we have going on is an admiral who has a Navy base at Yokosuka — its spelling is Y-O-K-O-S-U-K-A — believes that he has measured with instrumentation TEDE, he’s estimating a TEDE of 1.5 millirem per hour.

CHAIRMAN JACZKO: Okay.

JIM TRAPP: He believes he has, thyroid doses of 10 millirem per hour [100 microSv/h].

CHAIRMAN JACZKO: Okay.

JIM TRAPP: And I believe a contaminant, microcuries, levels of 7 eA- 9 –

MALE PARTICIPANT: That’s what I got.

JIM TRAPP: — for contamination levels.

CHAIRMAN JACZKO: Okay.

JIM TRAPP: This location is approximately 188 miles from the site.

CHAIRMAN JACZKO: Okay.

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CHAIRMAN JACZKO: Do we know the source of the data?

JIM TRAPP: It’s direct measurements, and he believes that he’s confirmed them on multiple instruments, and he believes it’s due to a wind shift. You know, we did have a wind shift to the south-southwest recently, and he believes that the plume coming out of the plant, then, would be causing this. He believes the wind will shift back out to sea in about 10 hours, which would give you a total dose of, he believes, about 10 millirem before the wind shift.

CHAIRMAN JACZKO: Okay, and is that it is a dose –

JIM TRAPP: And he’s just integrating, you know, 10 hours times the 1.5, which is, but basically that’s what he’s doing.

CHAIRMAN JACZKO: Yes.

JIM TRAPP: But, but the, you know, the problem is that Tokyo and a lot of other big population areas are in the intersection between the plants and this base.

CHAIRMAN JACZKO: Jim, I think that the interesting question for me — if I go back to the statements I’ve made, I have encouraged people to follow the protective action recommendations of the Japanese government.

[BLACKED OUT]

[...]

JACK GROB: Okay, guys, I apologize for bothering you, but things are degenerating quickly. This reminds me of the drill. [...]

what’s really troubling is that we, we have had that wind shift — the Chairman’s here, by the way — we’ve had that wind shift and the wind is out of the northeast blowing towards the southwest. That’s inland and towards Tokyo. And there’s an aircraft carrier in the port just south of Tokyo. It’s about 180 miles from the site, about 10 miles southwest of Tokyo, and they’re measuring on the order of 10 to 20 millirem over a 12-hour period total effective dose and roughly five to 10 times that, thyroid. [...]

JACK GROB: The, the answer is the dose rates don’t seem to be consistent either with what would be released or with the timing that it would take for a plume to get 180 miles away from the site to the southwest.

MIKE WEBER: Yeah, well, that’s what I struck me when you told us what’s going on.

JACK GROB: Yet, but the, the feedback through Trapp from the admiral is that they used multi* instruments and confirmed this in multiple ways [BLACKED OUT]

MIKE WEBER: Wow.

JACK GROB: They do operate nuclear-powered aircraft carriers, so they must have a level of competence that’s fairly decent. [...]

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28 comments to “Really troubling” wind shift said NRC: 1,000 microSv thyroid dose south of Tokyo over ten hour period on Mar. 14 reported US Navy — 300km from Fukushima — “This reminds me of the drill”

  • Mack Mack

    Ah, the real information is coming fast and furious now.

    Here's more:

    —-> "Ronald Reagan helicopter crews found contaminated 10,000 uCi/cm3 – Airborne plume levels at 100 nautical miles far above expected – 10 hours would put citizen in PAG"

    http://enformable.com/2012/03/ronald-reagan-helicopter-crews-found-contaminated-10000-ucicm3-airborne-plume-levels-at-100-nautical-miles-far-and-above-expected-10-hours-would-put-citizen-in-pag/

    —-> "USS Ronald Reagan measured 0.6 mR/hr direct gamma shine from clouds 130 miles from Fukushima Daiichi"

    http://enformable.com/2012/03/uss-ronald-reagan-measured-0-6-mrhr-direct-gamma-shine-from-clouds-130-miles-from-fukushima-daiichi/


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  • dharmasyd dharmasyd

    Who knows/knew…Radiation to the west of us, Radiation to the east of us, Radiation to the north and south, from above and from below…RADIATION DEAD AHEAD!!!

    Hap–Hap–Happy talkin' Happy talk…Happy talking all day long, all the time, beyond the sounds of silence, or is that beyond ~~~denial! ? ! ? ~~~


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    • CB CB

      What a nonchalant conversation, as if the norm.


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      • CB CB

        JACK GROB: Okay, guys, I apologize for 4 bothering you,
        Ahhhhhhhhhh the unapproachable leader. Don't bother me! Shouldn't delegation of notifications began here?
        JACK GROB: They do operate nuclear-powered aircraft carriers, so they must have a level of competence that's fairly decent.
        Documentation in the faith of an authority that is responsible for the use of Nuclear Power used by the military. Statement given gives plausible deniability to insure their job description is not jeopardized. Piss Poor Leadership! This is where we should have been notified to take shelter!


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        • CB CB

          Wow, don't interrupt me from keeping up with the Kardashians, or Americas next top model. I have nothing better to do. I'm so high ranking I don't allow minions to bother me with daily routines, nuclear comments are ALWAYS positive, no immediate threat, non nuclear related, non threatening, Burp, …………….just pissed. Good night.


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      • dharmasyd dharmasyd

        Gee CB..e Never thought that you would ever, ever agree with me. But then, I don't think you knew that you did agree with me. So, good night and sleep well, regardless…of whatever you judge here…
        I hope you feel better and get over your "just pissed" Burping/.

        OMG I' am so tired of the petty ego trips on this site Good night and sleep well to you too, CB………………
        "non threatening, Burp, …………….just pissed. Good night."

        regardless


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  • Misitu

    Chairman's responses "Okay" "Okay" etc

    I am trying to imagine myself in such a conversation and what the tone of voice might be, but I cannot tune into anything that sounds like a response

    Stonewalling – playing for time ?


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  • Sam

    So when are we here on the West Coast of America going to learn the truth of the
    radioactive fallout, especially from the nuclear explosion of Unit 3. When are we going to know
    the levels of contamination in our Alaskan seafood? etc….,
    What a lie to tell us all was okay in those critical first days. POTOS was flown quckly to
    South America on a hastily arranged trip at that time.

    What about all the airplane trips in the jet stream since Fukushima with people breathing
    in radioactive particles at the equivalent atmosphere of 6000 ft. Silent but deadly
    bioaccumulation keeps on happening.


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    • maaa

      When are you going to know? After you've got cancer. :D


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    • James2

      Sam, If you are here – you know the truth.

      Why didn't you know before now – I'm not 100% sure, but I can tell you for 100% certain there are a few folks here who've worked tirelessly for almost a year to get the information to you.

      And, there are some folks here who've been paid to keep the information from you for a year.

      There are only a handful of places on the internet where the second group of folks did not overwhelm the first group with lies and misinformation.

      This is one of them.


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      • Sam

        I am acutely aware of the fall out that has come our way. Where is the data stream
        from labs testing this stuff?. How much is in the salmon from Alaska? How much in the
        seaweed off of British Columbia? How much in the kelp I buy for the soil on the farm?
        How much cesium in soil now? How much in the greens I am eating grown this Spring?
        This site has been invaluable. There is a conspiracy to keep us ignorant. How come there
        has not been a laboratory out there doing scintillation testing and presenting their findings
        on this site?


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  • StillJill StillJill

    And,…let's not forget O'Bummer telling us, "NOT to prepare". Have you ever heard that one?

    He would have made a bad little boy scout! :-)


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  • InfoPest InfoPest

    The only reason, I can see, why all this Info is coming out now is that heath problems must be reaching undeniable numbers in Japan. If they don't get the real risk assessments out to the media then the dying victims of Fukushima, who will have nothing to lose, might seek revenge on those who condemned them with their lies.


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    • maaa

      I saw a clip on youtube regarding a air traffic controller who didn't his job and caused 2 airliners to crash mid air. It resulted in the deaths of alot of children. One of the victims father hunted the air traffic controller down and murdered him.


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    • Sam

      At some point in the near future the Japanese debris is going to wash up on our West Coast.
      I am sure the authorities know the radiation content in there—-otherwise we would be
      re-assured all safe. Where is the risk assessment for this crap coming our way. With onshore
      wind and soupy fog propelling this further inland will no doubt arouse the wrath of the citizens.
      Will this be able to be cleaned up and where will it be finally deposited ?—Yucca Mtn.
      Then with the West Coast polluted the oil companies will come in and drill for oil.


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      • James2

        That stuff all went in the ocean before the meltdowns – Yes it probably got fallout on it, but it's in the water, and therefore, II would think it less dangerous than the container of stuff that is going through the ports.

        I really think the radioactive scare on that stuff is overblown.


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  • James2

    This proves a few things.

    1. Reagan did indeed get radiated after the #3 explosion – the shills tried to tell us for months that Reagan redeployed before the explosion – using the US vs Japan time differences to confuse the issue.

    2. Reagan did get a dose of gamma rays from something. They were concerned in this meeting if it got "contamination" – which they say it didn't. Reality is different. Later articles suggest both the ships air and water got contaminated.

    3. If you have a loved one that was on the ship – you need to get them tested immediately for signs of cancer.


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  • PoorDaddy PoorDaddy

    James, sure you've seen them, but there are pics out there of sailors swabbing down the flight deck and the tower, after running the de-contamination (sea water sprinklers) for hours.
    Those guys are all radiated, to what degree, no tellin.
    Good idea- immediate testing.


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    • James2

      yes, that photo was obviously a staged photo, because the sailors had no protective gear on whatsoever.

      When there is a nuke alarm you wear your mask 24×7.

      I followed this happening real time that night and suspected the Reagan got Nuked by the MOX plume of #3 – which of course we now know it did.

      But the Navy issued a statement saying it was a minor radiation alert and the ship had redeployed to help out with the Tsunami victims – I knew this was BS from the minute it happened. A US aircraft carrier does not change course from an important mission unless it is in serious operational danger – and there's not very many situations that can put a Nimitz carrier in danger.

      The photo was issued a few weeks later, along with an article that still used the terms "no danger to health" – but reading between the lines it sure didn't feel like it.

      Sometime last summer there was a thread where I mentioned the Reagan and how the crew needed to be warned and the shills jumped all over me. My statement was recreated over on the "mothers of USS Reagan site" – which was subsequently closed to outside view – and there was a free-for-all that day on that site – blasting the Navy for covering it up.

      The shills were desperate to try and poke holes in my story and tried to claim the Reagan had left the day before. I believe that's the day the shill leader was reduced to going pornographic on us in a desperate attempt to cover up the thread…

      And now we find out I was it was all true.


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  • Bob Hardin Bob Hardin

    From the article: "There's an aircraft carrier in the port just south of Tokyo. It's about 180 miles from the site, about 10 miles southwest of Tokyo, and they're measuring on the order of 10 to 20 millirem over a 12-hour period…."

    Suppose it was 15 millirem over 12 hours. 1 millirem is 10 microsieverts. So the ship's crew was getting 150 microsieverts over 12 hours, which is 12.4 microsieverts per hour, which is serious radiation.


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  • PhilipUpNorth philipupnorth

    The population of greater Tokyo also got a dose of 150 microsieverts over 10 hours on March 14 and March 15, right along with the crew of the USS Reagan. Still no evacuation order there, in spite of hot MOX in every nook and cranny. So at least the folks on the Reagan were issued IOSAT pills, right?


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  • There was an article here last week where the Navy was taking air sample and knew the dangers were present ! Also not passed on to the Japanese people !!!


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  • patb2009

    "JIM TRAPP: But, but the, you know, the problem is that Tokyo and a lot of other big population areas are in the intersection between the plants and this base.

    CHAIRMAN JACZKO: Jim, I think that the interesting question for me — if I go back to the statements I've made, I have encouraged people to follow the protective action recommendations of the Japanese government.

    [BLACKED OUT]"

    Are they concerned with being made to look bad, or are they suggesting people listen only to the Japanese Gov, and not to data from US DoD?


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