“Unimaginable”: Record high radiation levels at Fukushima plant — “Gaping hole” found under containment vessel — Officials now admit: “It’s highly possible melted fuel leaked through” — Concern over radioactive gas leaks (PICS & VIDEO)

Published: February 2nd, 2017 at 5:12 pm ET
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Kyodo, Feb 2, 2017 (emphasis added): Radiation level at Fukushima reactor highest since 2011 disaster — The radiation level inside the containment vessel of the No. 2 reactor at the crippled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear complex stood at 530 sieverts per hour at a maximum, the highest since the 2011 disaster, the plant operator said Thursday… The previously highest radiation level monitored in the interior of the reactor was 73 sieverts per hour.

Kyodo, Feb 2, 2017: Record radiation level detected inside damaged Fukushima reactor… The reading means a person could die from even brief exposure, highlighting the difficulties ahead as the government and [Tepco] grope their way toward dismantling all three reactors that melted down…

Nikkei, Feb 3, 2017: Based on the “noise” in the images, the utility estimated that one area of the containment vessel was emitting radiation at a level of 530 sieverts per hour… Tepco previously believed that most of the reactor’s nuclear fuel had been contained in the pressure vessel, based on last year’s muon tomography inspection… But “it’s highly possible that melted fuel leaked through,” said Yuichi Okamura, a company spokesman for nuclear power.

Japan Times, Feb 2, 2017: Tepco finds gaping hole in grate under containment vessel… The hole could have been caused by melted fuel penetrating the vessel… Tepco plans to deploy a robot at the bottom of the containment vessel… to check out the conditions there… The actual condition of the melted fuel remains unknown because the radiation is too high…

Japan Times, Feb 3, 2017: The new radiation level, described by some experts as “unimaginable,” far exceeds 73 sieverts per hour, the previously highest radiation reading monitored in the interior of the reactor. An official of the National Institute of Radiological Sciences said medical professionals have never considered dealing with this level of radiation in their work.

Mainichi, Feb 2, 2017: [TEPCO said] a hole measuring 2 meters in diameter has been found on a metal grating… Images captured using a camera attached to a telescopic arm on Monday also showed part of the grating has gone. A further analysis of the images found a 2-meter hole in an area beyond the missing section on the structure

NHK, Feb 2, 2017: [Tepco] says its latest estimation of the radiation level inside one of the reactors was extremely high and had the potential to be lethal to a human within a short period of time… An analysis of the images found that the radiation was up to 530 sieverts per hour at a concrete cylinder supporting the reactor… In the latest estimation inside the vessel, the area near its opening logged 50 sieverts per hour at maximum. The operator officials say that there are no leaks of gas with radioactive substances from the containment vessel. Officials suspect that fuel… may be emitting strong radiation inside the vessel.

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226 comments to “Unimaginable”: Record high radiation levels at Fukushima plant — “Gaping hole” found under containment vessel — Officials now admit: “It’s highly possible melted fuel leaked through” — Concern over radioactive gas leaks (PICS & VIDEO)

  • HIghly possible?
    Hmm.
    Ya think?

    Didn't we know this already??


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  • They're slowly releasing bits of information to the public through the mainstream media but never giving the full picture/story. This is what they've been doing since the start, including through nuclear gatekeepers/shills.

    So what we have here is a public acknowledgement of the possibility of "China Syndrome" which, yes, was surmised by many people researching Fukushima since early on.


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    • Yes, and it is about time! Each time I post something from ENE, in facebook, people ask me if it is, "still going on".., as if it wouldn't be!
      Admin; is there a way to add a facebook (add/share) button to the site? Why? I'm lazy!
      Thanks.


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    • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

      Record high fatal radiation levels, hole in reactor detected at crippled Fukushima nuclear facility
      2 Feb, 2017
      https://www.rt.com/news/376107-fukushima-record-radiation-level/


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      • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

        “…A dose of about 8 Sieverts is considered incurable and fatal.

        “A hole of no less than one square meter in size has also been discovered beneath the reactor’s pressure vessel, TEPCO said. According to researchers, the apparent opening in the metal grating of one of three reactors that had melted down in 2011, is believed to be have been caused by melted nuclear fuel that fell through the vessel.

        “The iron scaffolding has a melting point of 1500 degrees, TEPCO said, explaining that there is a possibility the fuel debris has fallen onto it and burnt the hole. Such fuel debris have been discovered on equipment at the bottom of the pressure vessel just above the hole, it added….”
        http://www.miragenews.com/record-high-fatal-radiation-levels-hole-in-reactor-detected-at-crippled-fukushima-nuclear-facility/


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    • Silverlok Silverlok

      "…They're slowly releasing bits of information to the public through the mainstream media but never giving the full picture…"

      Tepco handling fuku was a magnificent domino to watch if one had not understood the breadth and depth of corruption, collusion, and malfeasance that is the "trusted system" in action.

      WE HAVE FACTS FOR is dilution the solution?

      We now know the answer; earth is not big enough for the amount of dispersion we need to make this 'fuku' thing inconsequential on a global scale. Since the fuku reactors represent less than 1% of all reactors in existence.

      if we can trust TEpco (?) , but if..then 500+ seiverts?…a good bit of that core is still in the building ( BUT DEFINITELY OUT OF ANY CONTAINMENT OR CONTROL ON FISSION INTERACTION )


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      • Silverlok Silverlok

        …they should try

        drying it out

        just to see if the seiverts lower

        (best guess; un-moderated ( not in water ) lethal neutron radiation ( bet they killed a few more unknown soldiers(read as bums from the ghetto) TESTING THAT ' talking point'….after, dropped shit tons of ( probably borated water )into 2's 'basement' toroid ring as instant mega-huge spike in MEASURABLE ( seiverts) energy output)

        totally out of any even unicorn concept of controlled decomission…worse to come.


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  • SadieDog

    Once again… That's one hell of a camera.


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  • W8R W8R

    Hello,
    530 sv?
    A sevenfold increase. Sounds like some fuel is left cooking in the Taurus.
    6 foot hole in the grate. Fuel "may have" made it? Lol. What else. But if she dumped the core out thru, I wouldn't expect it to be increasing.
    I'm surprised they admit it.
    In 100 years, when the whole truth is told, it'll be full of surprises I'm sure!


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  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    http://www.nature.com/articles/srep19915
    "The release period lasted over two months emitting a significant amount of radioiodine, radioxenon and radiocaesium as well as other isotopes such as plutonium."

    http://www.helencaldicott.com/the-impact-of-the-nuclear-crisis-on-global-health/
    …Plutonium, one of the most deadly radioactive substances, is an alpha emitter. It is highly toxic, and one millionth of a gram will induce cancer if inhaled into the lung. As an iron analogue, it combines with transferrin. It causes liver cancer, bone cancer, leukemia, or multiple myeloma. It concentrates in the testicles and ovaries where it can induce testicular or ovarian cancer, or genetic diseases in future generations. It also crosses the placenta where it is teratogenic, like thalidomide. There are medical homes near Chernobyl full of grossly deformed children, the deformities of which have never before been seen in the history of medicine.
    The half-life of plutonium is 24,400 years, and thus it is radioactive for 250,000 years. It will induce cancers, congenital deformities, and genetic diseases for virtually the rest of time.

    Plutonium is also fuel for atomic bombs. Five kilos is fuel for a weapon which would vaporize a city. Each reactor makes 250 kg of plutonium a year. It is postulated that less than one kilo of plutonium, if adequately distributed, could induce lung cancer in every person on earth.


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  • SadieDog

    This should've been part of the headline – "The new radiation level, described by some experts as “unimaginable,” far exceeds 73 sieverts per hour, the previously highest radiation reading monitored in the interior of the reactor.

    An official of the National Institute of Radiological Sciences said medical professionals have never considered dealing with this level of radiation in their work.

    According to the institute, 4 sieverts of radiation exposure would kill 1 in 2 people.

    Experts say 1,000 millisieverts, which equals 1 sievert, could lead to infertility, loss of hair and cataracts, while exposure to radiation doses above 100 sieverts increases the risk of cancer.

    The latest discovery spells difficulty in removing the fuel debris as part of decommissioning work at the plant. The government and Tepco hope to locate the fuel and start removing it from a first reactor in 2021.

    Tepco said the blazing radiation reading was taken near the entrance area in the space just below the pressure vessel, which contains the reactor core."


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    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

      "Tepco said the blazing radiation reading was taken near the entrance area in the space just below the pressure vessel, which contains the reactor core.""

      USED to contain the reactor core…


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      • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

        "Core?? WHAT core?? I don't see any core- do you? Nothing to see here folks. No- really."


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        • Correct HHD blobs don't have grates and especially nice clean holes and perfect rectangles, its a walk, Not a core grid!!!!

          Especially since the fuel rod bundles are almost perfectly square at Fukushima or they are completely round (not rectangular) with tolerances less than .001mm to begin with! No rectangles in the cores anywhere, anyone wanna bet?

          It's a photo of the stairs (landing) or a catwalk, NOT a core grid…

          Looks as though something really heavy fell through it BEFORE the area was permanently flooded to keep the melted fuel blobs cool and insulated.

          Fell through the walk grate BEFORE the meltdowns I suspect…

          Don't you?

          ..Even with a full metal and shielded suit you could never even get close to that place without becoming jello goo by the time someone pulled you out.

          Why?

          Gamma, the worlds thinnest and sharpest scalpel cutting at thousands of times a second…

          …The best cameras in the world today can't get close enough to take photos of the melted fuel blobs, nor can any robot carry one to that place (reactor fuel) to begin with.

          Radioactive – Lindsey Stirling and Pentatonix
          https://youtu.be/aE2GCa-_nyU


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  • Why did the experts NOT run to Fukushima and try to stop this from happening?

    Simple answer? They are experts!!!

    We that have followed this disaster from early on need only to look to the response (by experts) to figure that out in the official government documents…

    A catastrophic failure no one or anything (not even space age robots) can get close enough to, to even start helping to stop this ongoing release!!!

    http://enformable.com/fukushima-radiation-data/foia-documents-related-to-fukushima-disaster/

    Here's some truth…

    They (all 3 melted down reactors) are still undergoing fission and will throughout our lifetime, and probably our grandchildren's lifetime too.

    Sr-90 (strontium) creation and dispersal is at a all time high as are many thousands of other metallic (metal and ceramic) based poisons.

    If these levels were airborne, many forms of land based life would be extinct by now in the northern hemisphere as a direct result. Since it's trapped in water (a natural shield), many managed to survive.

    Not so for the Pacific sea life as shown here…

    http://www.agreenroadjournal.com/2013/10/the-deep-pacific-ocean-is-brokendead.html

    We have 23 of these same reactors (some still operating) here in the US…

    What's to be done? Anything (and everything) we can do to stop this from happening again.

    These melted down reactors will continue to fission and produce deadly poisons for the next 40+ years out of the control of anyone…


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  • freebywill

    Why is rad activity increasing? IF the core melted out of RPV, out of the PCV, and is somewhere in the ground below shouldn't rad activity be decreasing.

    Is the increase from decay products adding to the total?

    Is the increase due to an accurate value now vs a false previous val?

    This is a mark 4 using to show RPV pedestal
    ref pg 27 of this doc https://www.nrc.gov/docs/ML1125/ML11258A322.pdf

    Could it be that the new measurement is magnified because it is from from within the pedestal directly under the RPV?

    Is the grate they are talking about the work platform under the control rod drives?

    this is a mark 1 diag
    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:BWR_Mark_I_Containment,_diagram.png

    Anyone have any pics of the area under a BWR RPV before a meltdown?


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    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Me thinks.. it is now feeding itself what ever it can find…and it will continue to eat.. for a couple hundred thousand years. :(
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavior_of_nuclear_fuel_during_a_reactor_accident


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    • "Why is rad activity increasing? IF the core melted out of RPV, out of the PCV, and is somewhere in the ground below shouldn't rad activity be decreasing"

      These things will fission and wain, fission and wain, fission and wain for decades.

      Not to mention that all test and evidence shows strontium and many other (of the nastiest) poisons are produced 5+ years after a meltdown…

      Proven physics, the desperate attempt to cool these cores after the meltdowns don't work and when cooling below a certain point the fuel condenses and crusts over creating a blanket (so water can't cool the inside) and starts the heating process all over again…

      With tons of this stuff reacting this won't stop until someone intervenes and stops it…

      …Problem is nothing on the planet today is capable of getting close to it.

      Readings will go down then up, down then up and down and up for decades.

      Temperatures will go down then up, down then up and down and up for decades.

      Emissions will go down then up, down then up and down and up for decades.

      That's the reality of this (Fukushima) situation plain and simple…

      Cool it down and create a crust that acts like a blanket and insulates (and compresses?) the center and it'll heat right back up release gasses (blow a fart) and start cooling down again. And again and again and again and again…

      https://youtu.be/LLrTPrp-fW8?t=18s


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  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "Import Alert 99-33

    Published Date: 12/29/2016
    Import Alert Name:
    Detention Without Physical Examination of Products from Japan Due to Radionuclide Contamination
    …(bottom) Guidance:
    Districts may detain, without physical examination, the specified products from firms in the Fukushima, Aomori, Chiba, Gumna, Ibaraki, Iwate, Miyagi, Nagano, Niigata, Saitama Shizuoka, Tochigig, Yamagata and Yamanashi prefectures."
    (list of products)
    http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/cms_ia/importalert_621.html


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  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) denied for two months after the disaster that a meltdown had taken place. It said officials didn't know the company's manual contained a section for determining if a meltdown is underway. " http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/fukushima-operator-admits-it-didn-t-reveal-meltdown-months-n525431


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    • PlowboyGrownUp

      But, 2016 "TOKYO — The utility that ran the Fukushima nuclear plant acknowledged Tuesday its delayed disclosure of the meltdowns at three reactorswas tantamount to a cover-up and apologized for it.

      Tokyo Electric Power Co. President Naomi Hirose's apology followed the revelation last week that an investigation had found Hirose's predecessor instructed officials during the 2011 disaster to avoid using the word "meltdown."

      "I would say it was a cover-up," Hirose told a news conference. "It's extremely regrettable." " http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fukushima-tepco-power-japan-nuclear-meltdown-apologizes-cover-up/


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      • What were they going to do? Streets littered with debris, no way to get anything anywhere and children injured and washed away?

        Disaster? You know it was, prepared they were not.

        You ready for a flood? No is the answer if your'e honest…

        Why place blame? Why make it harder than it already is?

        No one knows…

        Does nothing to solve the problem but it sure is something to sit around and gab about huh…

        Oh Fucketh….


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          • Saving our kids and our country with truth and facts?

            Not preconceived notions of true?

            A photo of you? Maybe Me?? Could it be all of us???

            https://youtu.be/AE0MDlpQ2ig


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            • SadieDog

              But… "What were they going to do?"
              "Why place blame? Why make it harder than it already is?

              No one knows…

              Does nothing to solve the problem but it sure is something to sit around and gab about huh…"

              What the fuck are you talking about?


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              • The point ids this…

                They knew the BWR Mark 1 has a insane thing but let it go for the few bucks at the time…

                Real folks resigned…

                Needed additional power and new biscuits for nukes at the time…

                No longer needed or wanted…

                NO MORE NUKES!!!!!!!!!!!!

                Plain and simple…

                https://youtu.be/32GZ3suxRn4

                Jump on or get off…


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                • SadieDog

                  But don't blame anybody? Speak English jackass.


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                  • GOM GOM

                    SadieD

                    They are the bullies from HS. Now a clique on ENE. Same dance on the main thread if look.

                    See what happened when I bi*ched about the thread content? They jumped on me quicker than a buzzard seeing a shit wagon.

                    Then, when Admin replied, the same crew had the balls to respond actually telling Admin he didn't have to respond!

                    Assholes of a feather flock together.

                    xoxo


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                  • "But don't blame anybody? Speak English"

                    That comment was simple, Don't waste your life blaming someone for a earthquake and the tsunami that followed.

                    Time wasted blaming people will not help anything…

                    Seems strait forward and should be easy to understand by anyone that can read and comprehend at a 10th grade level. But invariably a few will try to sling insults and confuse this simple fact.

                    The streets were blocked with everything imaginable, 10's of thousands injured and/or missing…

                    All true statements!!!

                    The responses?

                    FALSE:

                    "They are the bullies from HS. Now a clique on ENE. Same dance on the main thread if look."

                    Who are the real fake information posters spouting all kinds of made up fairy tale tripe here? We are now bullies from some government agency? What a complete load of BS.

                    Here's another one…

                    FALSE:

                    "But don't blame anybody? Speak English jackass."

                    Who are the ones twisting the true statements around so they have a excuse to sling insults and create doubt and dissension?

                    Obvious isn't it…

                    One need only look at the posts made by these folks to understand who the real fake information posters are here…

                    If done on purpose or out of inadequacy it makes little difference, these types will always twist the facts to suit whatever whim they like regardless of who it hurts or confuses…

                    Ego? Pure Stupidity? The reasons don't matter…

                    False information is false information period…


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                    • GOM GOM

                      HipD

                      I said that bullie statement, you are doing it now, on the main thread. If B4 mentioned Mandela here, she would be crucified. I asked her not to.. what a joke this site is.

                      All gloves are off asswipe..


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                    • OK GOM the gloves are off…

                      I know who said it, it's in writing just above your current stupidity…

                      People like you ARE the problem with this country as a whole today…

                      All you do is twist statements (I'm a bully while you are the one cursing and acting like a bully and a complete fool) You don't even seem to have the ability to make a complete statement without slinging a cursing insult.

                      Then go ahead and do exactly what you say someone else is doing…

                      Completely idiotic!!!

                      I think a intelligent person sees this as it is all in writing.

                      And Mandela? Propaganda and anyone with a working brain knows it.

                      You get involved with these fairy tales (pizza gate?) and provide more false information at the drop of a hat and anyone that speaks the truth is a bully? All the while spouting bulling curse words and threats?

                      The ones that are full of BS are easy to spot by sane folks…

                      Too bad you just don't seem to be one of the sane ones…

                      So do exactly what you falsely accuse others of doing on genius ones…

                      It's all here to read and you don't even seem to even have the sanity to see that simple fact!

                      Gloves off? You wouldn't have a chance son…

                      Here's one to watch, although you probably won't get this simple information either.

                      https://youtu.be/VMqcLUqYqrs?t=1m28s

                      Time to get off your whining ass and do something real for our country and our world instead of wasting time typing lies and misinformation or propaganda.


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                  • SadieDog

                    Ok. Thanks for explaining. You blame the situation at Fukushima on the earthquake and tsunami and absolutely no human should be held responsible for anything that happened before, during or after the accident. Got it.


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                    • Nope!!! Again for the learning disabled and the twisters of statements…

                      I said (let's try this one at a 6th grade level).

                      1) Sitting around complaining about who did what in a situation where many hands were tied by debris and rescue efforts is a waste of precious time.

                      2) In a time where we should be spending our efforts discussing and revealing the ongoing releases and what can be done about them is and should be the main priority.

                      3) Seeking to punish and discredit those that are now speaking out about this disaster is wrong, a waste of time and pure tit for tat childishness…

                      I don't think in terms of No one or Never or always and neither does anyone else that is mature and sane and wishing to help with these ongoing problems.

                      Wasting time pointing the finger at any public figure is a waist of time, makes no real difference in the fight to stop these releases and is nothing provable in most cases…

                      …Just a bunch of whiners that will whine on and on and contribute nothing real to the fix.

                      The few (such as yourself) only want to twist the true statements made… Then blame and accuse others instead of helping to find a cure or garnering support to get these releases stopped.

                      It's like 2 kids fighting over a ice cream cone until it melts or falls and no one get's any…

                      I notice you never use the actual statements written when creating these fake opinions and labeling them with someone else name…

                      Fake misinformation…


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                    • SadieDog

                      Verbatim, you – "Why place blame? Why make it harder than it already is?
                      No one knows…
                      Does nothing to solve the problem but it sure is something to sit around and gab about huh…"

                      And, "Don't waste your life blaming someone for a earthquake and the tsunami that followed.
                      Time wasted blaming people will not help anything…"


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                    • So out of those statements you garnered that I was saying to let all the criminals go?

                      And then waste all our time insinuating that I was stating no investigations should be done?

                      Didn't say or imply that at all…

                      I said wasting time arguing over who did what was a waste of time!!!

                      Funny how the people that are experts on finding criminals never go around complaining and spreading rumor or half truths, they keep their mouths shut until is's proven in a court of law and than release the real truth in writing for the world to read and know.

                      Something I think allot of Americans nowadays have no desire to do. I guess it's easier to complain and argue silly misinterpreted or downright twist points into lies than it is to work hard to get something real accomplished.

                      Sad but true…


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                    • Great song and Steely Dan is one of the many bands I post here because of their work to stop nuclear weapons and nuclear power…

                      "King Of The World" was one of several produced to help expose the nuclear industry…

                      http://feverdreams.whatsmykarma.com/countdo.htm

                      Many music groups have given tirelessly to stop nuclear even while others work(ed) only to discredit them.


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                • Danebramage is mostly ego…

                  Used to be called ignorance…

                  …back before AC, cellphones and pure free information based on ego and/or fiction.

                  https://youtu.be/OPf0YbXqDm0

                  Guard your kids and your water now!!!!!!!

                  Or be part of the total ass that doesn't.

                  Unfortunately Fukushima will live and produce child killer poisons for generations to come…

                  True or false? You be the judge…

                  Danebgammage???


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              • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                SD same old song, same head numbing chickenscratch.

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7v0V58V3Uw


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              • GOM GOM

                SadieD..or anyone really

                As evidenced by you're confusion over the HD post, this is a pattern. I just noticed it. AST did this shit the other day, posting jibberish stuff, confusing me and others. I said he was drunk. Not so, the next post was normal, as was the rest.

                Hippie Dog is doing it now. AST is following suit. Haven't you seen the crazy talk posts?

                Methodical disruption aimed at confusing the victims.

                Stay alert Sadie.


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  • razzz razzz

    Handout at press conference Feb 2, 2017 (.pdf) says because of some obstructions and mainly because of the appox. 3 foot hole in the grating, that a track robot may not be able to be maneuver for further inspection. TEPCO has a picture of what the area normally looks like with all the insertion apparatus for control rods and says recent pictures do not show it disturbed much.
    http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/handouts/index-e.html

    Looks like a clean cut made the grating hole. The blob or drip must have been hotter than hell. Maybe a camera can at least look down and through the grating to below.

    The press handouts also mentions and has pics of an Unit 3 roof cover over its fuel pool being constructed. I didn't see a detailed report on what the idea is.

    Anyway, if the primary shell had no leaks then TEPCO wanted to flood and fill the shell including the burnt out reactor vessel with water to shield the melt. No air escapes according to TEPCO but water can? Makes no sense. The first few recent pictures show a fog or haze along with some dripping water meaning the melt must still be quite warm.

    530 sieverts, it that a lot? I wonder what the readings were for 3 Mile Island's melt was.


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    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

      Thanks for the pic link razzz.

      I too wonder what is 'high' reading in Sv.

      I thought I read 500Sv at 1 minute is fatal.

      Where (anywhere/thing/time) has been measured at 1000/5000/10000
      Highest ever?
      Gotta go dig that up. ;)


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      • DUDe DUDe

        Anybody knows what is the current technological limit of what they can test before the meter blows up..?


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      • Wooster

        Based on the "noise" in the images, the utility estimated that one area of the containment vessel was emitting radiation at a level of 530 sieverts per hour — enough to kill a human in under a minute.

        http://asia.nikkei.com/Japan-Update/Nuclear-fuel-likely-melted-through-Fukushima-reactor-vessel


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      • AirSepTech AirSepTech

        I can't say it is any more interesting than it is ghoulish.

        10 to 17 Sv: fatal acute doses during Tokaimura nuclear accident. Hiroshi Ouchi who received 17 Sv was kept alive for 83 days after the accident.[46]

        21 Sv: fatal acute dose to Louis Slotin in 1946 criticality accident[45]

        36 Sv: fatal acute dose to Cecil Kelley in 1958, death occurred within 35 hours.[47]

        54 Sv: fatal acute dose to Boris Korchilov in 1961 after a reactor cooling system failed on the Soviet submarine K-19 which required work in the reactor with no shielding

        270 Sv/h typical PWR spent fuel bundle, after 10 year cooldown, no shielding[57

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sievert#Personal_dose_equivalent

        I will still be looking for a max measured. :lol:


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      • razzz razzz

        I was being sarcastic about the 530 sieverts. 6 sieverts exposure is certain death. But sieverts is some invented conversion to human internal dose rate calculation that does not really apply to such high radioactive readings. You have to switch to some other measurements like rem or gray units at those high levels as you only need to show the rate of decay count per second or per minute or per hour.

        Here's some figures from a sieverts chart:

        2000 mSv=(2,000,000 ?Sv )=(2 Sv) – 1 in 10 lifetime risk of fatal cancer
        4000 mSv=(4,000,000 ?Sv)=(4Sv) – 50/50 chance of continued survival
        4,000,000 ?Sv (4000 mSv)(4Sv) – 1 in 5 lifetime risk of fatal cancer
        6,000,000 ?Sv(6000 mSv) (6Sv) – Early death.

        So you can see how silly measuring or using 530 sieverts is at these high decay rates. Plus, the readings are probably higher as two decays (or more) happening at the same moment can count as only one decay. Decays also means heat is being released, measured in joules(?).


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        • AirSepTech AirSepTech

          I figured it was kind of 'tongue in cheek' humor.

          Your right, rem is more appropriate at high levels.
          SI is just a conversion.


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          • earthsmith earthsmith

            TY razzz
            Nuclide Analysis Results of Fish and Shellfish: I was interested in this. Most of the samples where ND. So I wanted to see who did the studies/analysis. Turns out it was KANSO CO., LTD. KANSO has one shareholder…Kansai Electric Power Company(KEPCO). I see conflict of interests but thats how it works these days. Cherry pick away…..the world.
            Mirror mirror on the wall, who is the most alternate of all….


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        • razzz razzz

          Probably should have used rad/rem as radiation measurement examples. The US Navy still uses them.

          Here's a JapanToday article about the current Unit 2 observations. The comments seems to show a bit more tuned in readership than at the time of the catastrophe. Certainly less nuclear apologists showing up.

          'Record radiation level detected inside damaged Fukushima reactor
          Feb. 03, 2017'
          https://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/record-radiation-level-detected-inside-damaged-fukushima-reactor

          It is still never stated that there is no containment with any of the 3 melts as most of the radioactive fallout now finds its way into the Pacific Ocean.

          TEPCO complains Unit 3's new roof construction is hampered by high radiation emanating from the blown out building so everything has to be done remotely by crane. Necessary approach by humans is limited to minutes.


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  • PlowboyGrownUp

    "Japan Declare Crisis As Fukushima Reactor Falls Into Ocean"
    Posted on February 3, 2017
    Just posting a headline…
    http://yournewswire.com/japan-fukushima-reactor-crisis/


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  • PhilipUpNorth

    SimplyInfo has a great article on topic for this thread:
    http://www.fukuleaks.org/web/?cat=33

    The location of the 2 meter hole is the center of the pedestal, right below the control rod equipment at the bottom of the reactor.

    The grate is for workers fixing control rod hydraulic equipment. It is located just above the basemat.
    I wondered why the grate seemed to be still intact, in the video released yesterday.
    The temperatures in the corium were well above the melting point of steel.
    As these photos show, the grate did, in fact, melt.

    As to the calculation of 540 seiverts, Tepco wants to find a mound of corium on the basemat below the hole.
    Wishful thinking.
    My guess is they will only find a water-filled hole through the concrete.

    They have cancelled next month's planned deployment of a robot.

    The question remains:
    "Where is the damn corium?"


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  • PhilipUpNorth

    Only a sarcophagus can sequester the corium from the planet.
    100' foundation, with a concrete bottom, around Units1-4.
    Buttressed against sinking and twisting.
    They will think this through, eventually, and decide that this is the right course of action.

    The first step is to find and map the corium.
    Slant drilling should be able to accomplish this.
    Tick, tock, Tepco, time is awasting.


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    • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

      Fukushima is built on fill.. probably went through it like butter.


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    • jump-ball jump-ball

      The solution was, in 2011, a 100' coffer dam + new lower containment before the corium had spread out, but now it's an idea whose time has passed.


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    • "Only a sarcophagus can sequester the corium from the planet.
      100' foundation"

      This is not possible due to the location, not only of the corium but also the water table.

      A sad fact and this is why you don't see any work or plans of work on that idea.

      The ice wall was built primarily for cooling (something few have ever talked about).

      It will be semipermeable and always has been…

      …the ice wall never sealed the reactors and has always leaked water.

      A enclosure of any kind at that site would be like a bathtub and would eventually fill to overflowing with concentrated contaminated water and the instability that would create would cause the buildings to sink and/or fall…

      You could call this situation "between a rock and a hard place" although neither a rock nor a hard place exists in that location that could support these reactor buildings if that area is sealed watertight.

      Also if the corium has already gotten to the water table sealing it from underneath is impossible. Sealing the sides won't help to do anything except concentrate the radioactive materials to a critical point causing the site to be abandoned and could cause a massive explosion sending all the contamination airborne…

      A ELE (extinction level event) type disaster of epic proportions…

      The only hope is to find a way to stop the fission reactions and then dig the coruim out.

      Unfortunately, that technology simply doesn't exist at this time.


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      • PhilipUpNorth

        Many thanks for your thoughts, Hippie Dog.
        The water table at Fukushima begins only about a Few feet below ground level.
        The water table begins above the level of the torus basement floor of Units1-4.
        There has been much said about groundwater leaking INTO the torus basements, and generator building basements.
        The shallow level of the aquifer is the reason why.
        The aquifer extends to a depth of 100'.
        This is the reason that the depth of the foundation must be 100' or more, so that the underground river can be diverted around the corium in the ground.
        The corium reached groundwater within a week.
        The underground foundation will be built starting with the uphill leg.
        This keeps the area around the reactor ruins from flooding.
        If the corium is found within 100' of ground level, it can be contained by digging a series of horizontal tunnels at a depth of 100', under Units1-4, and filling the holes with concrete.
        It corium is deeper than 100', the sarcophagus plan must be reconsidered.
        Heart points out that Units1-4 were built on 'fill".
        The FDNPP was built on mudrock, left when a cliff was removed to prepare the site.
        Once the mudrock was removed, a few feet of gravel fill was added to level the site for building construction.
        Mudrock is a porous rock, with limited weight-bearing capacity.
        Accordingly, the foundation walls must be buttressed, to protect the sarcophagus against settling and earthquake movement.


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        • "groundwater leaking INTO the torus basements"

          I hear ya PhilipUpNorth…

          Leaking into the torus room would be a good sign but it's not as far as we can tell at number 2 from what (information) has been released to the public…

          …"mudrock" is saturated clay, it should shed water and does.

          Unfortunately at that location (Fukushima), it runs off into the Pacific to be transported around the world! Ya can't block the water with a water tight barrier or the buildings will fall from the mudrock geting soft
          (with fuel pools over 50 feet in the air weighing thousands of tons).

          There is NO way to build a sarcophagus at Fukushima or it would have been done by now (and demanded by the worlds experts early on) regardless of costs.

          Life is important, children are important, grandparents are important, love is important, true is not only important, it's true…

          Ya just can't seal em up, that's fact. Too many real technical reasons you can't.

          The elephants foot at Chernobyl has never been cooled with water, think about that for a moment….

          https://youtu.be/2_hZUQyAMYs


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  • Wooster

    The radiation level … stood at 530 sieverts per hour.

    Wow, just wow.

    But we're still good for the Olympics, right?


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  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/handouts/2017/images/handouts_170202_01-e.pdf

    What it's supposed to look like under fuel @ U2 and what it looks like…China Syndrome.


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  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/nu/fukushima-np/handouts/2017/images/handouts_170123_01-e.pdf

    Jan 23, 2017 Changes in the amount of water transferred from groundwater drains to reactor and turbine buildings and in the amount of groundwater and rainwater flowing into the buildings(PDF 236KB)


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  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    Someone mentioned Tepco not accepting help from outside…

    http://www.pressreader.com/malaysia/the-borneo-post-sabah/20170202/282394104178030

    …Of 44 subsidised projects publicly awarded by the trade and economy ministry since 2014, about 80 per cent went to the International Research Institute for Nuclear Decommissioning. The group, known as IRID, was established in the wake of the Fukushima disaster and is comprised entirely of Japanese corporations, according to the ministry’s website.

    Japan’s trade and industry ministry awarded funds directly to only two foreign firms during the same period. Many of the contracts had only one or two bidders.

    Of about 70 contracts awarded since the March 2011 disaster, nine have gone to foreign companies, according to an official in the ministry’s Agency of Natural Resources and Energy who asked not be named citing internal policy.

    To provide opportunities for foreign companies, the ministry has created an English website for bids and also provides English information sessions to explain the contracts, the official said.

    IRID’s contracts are given to its members, including Toshiba Corp., Hitachi Ltd. and Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Ltd., which have partnerships and joint ventures with foreign firms, spokesman Yoshio Haruyama said by phone. While it doesn’t directly contract work to companies overseas, IRID taps foreign experts as advisers and participates in international collaborative projects, he said.


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    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

      Mitsubishi Heavy has about five or six contracts through IRID, but can’t share how many partnerships it has with foreign firms, spokesman Shimon Ikeya said by phone.

      Hitachi has sub-contracts with foreign suppliers related to the Fukushima cleanup, but can’t provide details about these agreements because they aren’t public, a spokesperson said by email.

      Toshiba doesn’t directly bid for ministry contracts, and instead works with IRID, company spokeswoman Yuu Takase said by e-mail. IRID, which aims to “gather knowledge and ideas from around the world” for the purpose of nuclear decommissioning and was receiving over 20 billion yen in government grants in March, doesn’t disclose how much of their funds ultimately go to foreign businesses, according to its spokesman. Barrett, its adviser, said he thinks it’s “very low,” but should ideally be five per cent to 10 per cent.

      Japan’s biggest nuclear disaster isn’t void of foreign technology. Toshiba, which owns Pennsylvania-based Westinghouse Electric Co., and Hitachi, which has a joint venture with General Electric Co., are tapping American expertise. A giant crane and pulley system supplied by Toshiba to remove spent fuel from the wrecked reactors employs technology developed by Westinghouse.



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      • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

        “We bring in knowledge from foreign companies, organisations and specialists in order to safely decommission the reactors,” Tatsuhiro Yamagishi, spokesman for Tokyo Electric, said by e-mail. While the company can’t say the exact number of foreign firms involved in the Fukushima cleanup, companies including Paris-based Areva SA, California-based Kurion Inc. and Massachusetts-based Endeavour Robotics are engaged in work at the site, according to Yamagishi.

        However, foreign firms independently securing contracts is still a tall task.

        “When it comes to Japan’s nuclear industry, the bidding system is completely unclear,” said Hiroaki Koide, a former assistant professor at Kyoto University Research Reactor Institute, in an e-mail.

        “The system is designed to strengthen the profits of Japan’s nuclear village,” he added, referring to the alliance of pronuclear politicians, bureaucrats and power companies that promote reactors. — WPBloomberg…

        MORE


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  • Jebus Jebus

    Why do they put those expensive defective reactors around that toxic manmade nuclear fuel if what got out, when they blew up, is of no imediate concern?

    Why do they wear tyvec and masks?

    Is it to stop the external exposure?

    Shoud I wear tyvec and a mask now?

    White is not for a grease monkey, can I get a different color?

    Is it ok that I breath it, because I am so far from the source?

    Is it ok that I eat it, because I am so far from the source?

    Where have all the coriums gone?

    Where have all the robots gone?

    Where have all the sea birds gone?

    Where have all the sea stars gone?

    I just wish I could not add, too…


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  • Sol Man

    Where have all our futures gone?


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  • 4Yahshua

    2~4~5999 (out of 6000) Sabbath in this "Doomsday Apocalypse".
    Last Evil Days of "Manmean". Yahshua the Son of Yahweh
    Returns VERY SOON! Pray NOW to be SAVED and SEALED in THEM.
    Revelation 14:1 HalleluYah! Hebrew: "Praise ye Yah!"

    May I suggest that EVERYONE have a supply of Potassium Iodide (65 mg.) on hand? This is just in case we become suddenly exposed to massive radiation as were sailors near Fukushima when it happened. They were not given this and many are now are either dead or in terrible suffering.

    Mankind SHOULD be saving Yahweh's earth (Psalm 14:1)NOT destroying it!

    ETERNAL SURVIVAL BLESSINGS FOR YAHWEH'S SAINTS!


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    • Should we be storing Potassium Iodide Tablets in case of a accident?

      "May I suggest that EVERYONE have a supply of Potassium Iodide (65 mg.) on hand? This is just in case we become suddenly exposed to massive radiation"

      I already know the answer I'm about to give will be met with resistance but the truth needs to be told as there are lives at stake.

      I say are because taking KI tabs (Potassium Iodide) has more than a small risk in itself.

      Here are the facts…

      These supplements have a window of opportunity to be even slightly effective.

      In other words you have to take them some time before the radiation is in your environment. It's a fact that if radioactive iodine is already in your environment these supplements won't help you (supporting link below).

      The way these substances work is they provide stable iodine so your body doesn't take up the man made poison iodine and potassium to help your body reject cesium because cesium mimics potassium.

      KI tabs and liquid iodine and potassium work on a simple principle…

      If you are not deficient in iodine (most people are) your body is less likely to store the Radioactive Iodine. This doesn't mean you won't ingest it, it simply lessens the likelihood of your body trying to store it. The hope being that you will excrete it instead…

      It (KI) however does not protect you if you take it moments before or after a radiation problem arrives…

      Continued..


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      • Continued..

        Should we be storing Potassium Iodide Tablets in case of a accident?

        ————-

        The biological process of absorbing these nutrients takes time you simply won't have if you rush to take them after a emanate problem.

        These measures help simply because you suddenly have a large supply of the stable nutrient. But again it takes time for it to be absorbed and be effective… Is dependent on many factors (when you last ate, your individual hydration and metabolism at the time, etc.) and does absolutely nothing to stop you from ingesting these radioactive elements. KI tabs only help to lessen the odds of you storing the radioactive versions, you will still ingest and excrete these elements in the event of a accident.

        The problem with a supplement like this is it must be taken in advance and should NEVER be taken routinely, the risks of KI tabs are well known and can be very serious, even life threatening, if used improperly.

        This is why people around nuclear plants are given the minimum supply of these tablets and told NEVER to take them unless instructed to do so by authorities.

        This is also why we began iodizing salt…

        So when you wonder why we don't just all take supplements to eliminate the vulnerability in advance, ask yourself what the risks are in taking potassium iodide (or any supplements like this) to begin with.

        It's widely known to be risky to take these things in supplement form…

        Continued…


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      • Continued.. (part 3)

        Should we be storing Potassium Iodide Tablets in case of a accident?

        ————-

        So what's the answer? How do we protect ourselves?

        The answer seems obvious…

        FOOD!!!!

        Although it's not a simple thing to modify your diet with foods rich in natural iodine and potassium, it's the only 100 percent safe way to protect yourself and your family.

        And the side effects of doing it this way are vibrant health and energy.

        If you have health problems you really need to research and consult a doctor before starting ANY modification in your diet (that includes ANY tablets too)…

        Just remember KI tablets, nascent iodine elixirs, multi vitamin tablets and all supplements of this type (liquid, powder or tablet) and the iodine / potassium they contain are a man made/altered products and all man made supplements come with risks. That is a given for anyone that has studied these problems.

        So diet (a well nourished body) is the only real way to help you be protected from these disasters and that a daily habit of eating natural foods that contain these nutrients.

        Good luck and keep researching for a natural solution to vitamin and mineral deficiency…

        Your comments are welcome and appreciated. This could save countless lives so everyone feel free to jump in with any suggestions on diet and nutrition information using natural foods!!!!

        It's simply the ONLY way to be really prepared for these disasters…


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  • PlowboyGrownUp

    High radiation levels made the corporate news "The Japanese nuclear plant has recorded the highest radiation level since the 2011 earthquake and tsunami. The findings are likely to delay attempts to dismantle the plant and will likely increase decommissioning costs."
    http://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/newsother/radiation-at-fukushima-plant-hits-5-year-high/ar-AAmAkoU?li=BBr8Mkh


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  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

    High radiation levels at Fukushima reactor is bad, bad news
    “The fatal levels will keep officials from stabilizing the area as we approach the 6th anniversary of the nuclear plant's disaster….”
    February 3, 2017
    https://www.cnet.com/news/deathly-high-radiation-levels-at-fukushima-nuclear-reactor-is-bad-bad-news/


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  • irhologram

    73 Sieverts on in March 2011…NOW 530 Sieverts??! Fissioning? Criticality?
    (What was the high reading elsewhere at FD, guys?)

    "…recent reading (530 Sieverts) described by some experts as “unimaginable”, is far higher than the previous record of 73 sieverts an hour in that part of the reactor."
    http://www.indiatimes.com/news/world/nuclear-radiation-at-highest-level-since-2011-meltdown-at-japan-s-fukushima-reactor-270867.html

    ? Now I understand why we're seeing all this old info about melting robots [from 2 years ago] and missing grates [I think this was under discussion back with Pattie B and then another major discussion a couple of years ago that involved green stuff on the grates, but also up a wall…Code, I think you were debating that one.

    They are bringing this stuff up as new because it IS new or new to us. It's fissioning, wouldn't you say? More and more powerfully, wouldn't you say? 530 – 73 = a 457 Sievert increase. Over what period of time have they been watching this increase?

    Is that more than a 700% increase …just now discovered but was all along incremental…or is this change sudden? If sudden, what would escalating change mean? What it appears to mean is that it has gone critical, possibly exploding remaining nearby nuclear coriums and coolant pool rods.

    cont.


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    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      irholo, I think when you read more of the posts on how the temperature was measured you might see that the temperature hasnt gone up and is no sign of recent fission or anything. As far as fission, the I-131 found in sewage is the only thing I know of that indicates ongoing fission. Most likely the inside experts know when and how much. I dont think its "large" compared to the initial event.


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      • irhologram

        Code. So you dissgree with the entire premise of the article, that there has been an increase of radiation heat…which would be related in some way to the also significant recent releases of Plutonium?

        You are saying some "difference" in measurement methodology has been sensationalised for a "story," even though the percentage of difference is more than 700%? Explain this please.

        Also, if there were fission (and if …there's fission in the sewage…then…there is fission) …would that fission result in significant recent releases of plutonium?


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        • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

          I read elsewhere that the current measurement was taken from a location not measured before and that it is closer to the corium, therefore the highest reading to date (I think they called it a "cow chute")… Also, the reading was from estimates from camera pixilation or some such derivative- not relating to actual measurements.

          Just some things to consider…


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          • AirSepTech AirSepTech

            That is correct, they 'core drilled' into the 'pedestal' that the PRV sits on.

            The bot/cam went up the ramp aka 'control rod chute'? to the new hole and peaked in.
            My guess is the 'ramp' is to R/R control rods.

            Don't know what to think about the heat…40c is not very hot.

            As always, the info sucks.


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            • irhologram

              Code, Hillbilly Air.

              This is the additional link I was using…above.

              http://www.indiatimes.com/news/world/nuclear-radiation-at-highest-level-since-2011-meltdown-at-japan-s-fukushima-reactor-270867.html

              So it is incorrect? And this has nothing to do with the increased Plutonium release?


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              • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

                The hole was recently drilled http://photo.tepco.co.jp/en/date/2016/201612-e/161226-01e.html Completion of drilling a hole toward investigation inside Unit 2 Primary Containment Vessel (PCV) at Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station Upload date December 26, 2016

                IMO, they said it to imply fuel was located- meriting a high reading. Keep in mind- there is no actual reading- only guesses from picture pixilation.

                http://www.tepco.co.jp/en/press/corp-com/release/2017/1371751_10469.html
                TOKYO, Jan. 31-A camera placed inside the Primary Containment Vessel (PCV) of Unit 2 at Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station has captured intriguing images that may be fuel debris from the March 2011 accident, but further examination is necessary before that can be verified.
                Reports that have been widely circulated in the media may be premature, TEPCO Holdings believes. Images said by some reports to be of “black chunks” may in fact turn out to be fuel debris, but may also be the result of missing paint or rust discoloration.
                TEPCO Holdings recognizes that the matter has generated great public interest because a sighting of fuel debris would represent an important ‘first.’ But it is important that TEPCO Holdings carefully verifies what these images appear to be showing before reaching conclusions.

                ******

                And they covered their butts before releasing the statement.


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                • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

                  In other words- they wanted the public to believe fuel had been located and high radiation readings verified this. Notice the media went viral with it? The fact is, however, no fuel has been verified and no reading of 530s/h has been verified, either. We do have some pretty graphic images of it, though…


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                  • irhologram

                    Hillbilly. Thank you for explaining this to me!


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                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    The fuel may not have melted through the concrete. See somewhere above where I posted the advanced modelling. I think it depends on how fast they got water on it. Haizedustrium just posted a video with Naoto Kan saying if the fuel had melted all the way through, they would not be sitting there talking now. There was a huge explosion at the lowest level. This could be a steam explosion in the torus? Joints or holes may have caused a breach in containment, while the majority of corium could still be within the concrete. We dont know…but without a doubt, the insiders know a tremendous amount about it.


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        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          Irholo, I dont think you understand the premise of the article, and I think you are confused on the time frame of the plutonium peaks. Its not immediately evident…but there is a big difference between record levels and largest levels measured. ….Im with you..who has time to read and figure things out?


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          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            How hard would it be to make a compressed air powered helicopter drone…fed and controlled by a hose and flexible push rods…absolutely no electronics on board except the camera…and even that could be transmitted to a remote sensor by fiber optics. Heck you could just place some ultrasonics in there and reconstruct the whole cave of hell by sonar…they have 3-d sonar reconstruction down


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            • AirSepTech AirSepTech

              Not hard at all, even self contained.
              AirMotors are common, many types.

              A small liquid N2 tank will last a Looooong time.
              You do have some safety rules to follow

              It can power anything, any size, anything electric can do

              Non-explosive/intrinsically safe type stuff.

              My boys had a toy planes called 'air hogs'.
              We made some 'cool' ones when they got older. :)


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        • razzz razzz

          That hole in the grating has been there for almost six years now ever since a 'loud noise' was heard from Unit 2 back when all three units were melting down and out during 3/11.

          The decay rate of 530 sieverts is only a guesstimate extrapolated from the recent pictures as radiation caused the camera chip to pixelate. They guessed how much radiation it took to cause interference in the pictures.

          The next scheduled observation using a robot with tracks will have temperature and radiation probe meters. But, since the recent initial pictures show debris and many missing grates, TEPCO is not sure if it safe to maneuver with a self propelled robot. And that is not figuring for the high radiation readings the could incapacitate or shorten the life span of a robot. If some of the globs on the grating are actually melted fuel then the robot must avoid them or risk frying on board electronic in short order.

          As far as radioiodine being found in sewage sludge, TEPCO likes to say it is from medical treatments.

          Otherwise, I would worry more about emptying Unit 2's spent fuel pool (and 1&2) than worry if the melts are fissioning because there is absolutely nothing that can be done about it.

          There is something scary about the melts sitting in or surrounded by water since now it is just raw uranium and plutonium exposed to water than can act as a moderator.


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  • irhologram

    According to this, the term of exponential increase may be over the last few months. Relatively speaking how fast is that, and where are we are a criticality scale? http://enenews.com/video-us-states-hit-with-extremely-large-peaks-of-fukushima-radioactive-material-significant-amount-of-plutonium-released-for-months-radioactivity-from-plant-measured-gl/comment-page-1#comment-819282

    What would a 3 NPP criticality mean to the fracturing lava tubes that underpin the entire island beneath the mudstone?

    I have tried several times to locate the video made by the Japanese geologist about 3 weeks after 3/11. I believe his name is, Nobichiko Obara, but he is no longer in YouTube archives, and references to him seem to have been scrubbed, except in woo-woo, Edgar Cayce type sites or ones that divert you to prize entries.

    He stated that he was certain that in the short term, these lava tubes would completely fracture due to ongoing earthquakes, and remember, as Plowboy reminded, the coastline moved 8 to 13 feet EAST, away from the landmass. This was explained by scientists as a movement of the entire continental plate, which to my mind, and the mind of the Japanese geologist, is not born out by data, considering the plate is east of Japan, and measurements elsewhere don't match.

    cont.


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  • irhologram

    So lets say the entire FD goes critical. What is the effect on liquifaction, but ALSO on the splitting the lava tubes, which then break off completely while Japan slides into the sea potentially taking Sendai and all the Nuclear Power Plants on the East Coast or further into of Japan with it?

    I've been watching folks here comment that the splattered corium would be cooling now…that while it would have been red hot then, temperature should be dropping. I didn't understand that, because that's not how these SAME folks say a China Syndrome works (less technical than their terms, but I'll use the words "China Syndrome".)

    Well, based on results, the corium is NOT cooling, and we should proceed down the rabbit hole of how these daughters of daughter's daughters are interacting and how far those interactions reach. The only reason I connect dots is because…well, they're there to connect.


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  • irhologram

    Sorry for all the typos. I have extreme dry eye today. Oh well…you get what I meant, right?


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  • Here's some reports from people on the ground (plant Workers) that suggest the hole on the walk grate pictured above could have happened before the tsunami and is not a melt through but a heavy object falling due to shaking.

    This is a fact Tepco would not want to be known as this puts EVERY reactor they operate in question of catastrophic failure from earthquakes.

    Obviously the story Tepco want's everyone to believe is the tsunami is responsible and not a earthquake shaking a already compromised reactor…

    Further grounds to shut em ALL down as earthquakes are common throughout Japan…

    So it makes it (unbelievably) better for them (Tepco) to support a melt out than to admit that a very heavy object crashed through the grate before the flood occurred.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/the-explosive-truth-behind-fukushimas-meltdown-2338819.html

    The article doesn't site the area below the reactor because no one could get anything near that place at the time the article was written.

    But it sure does bring into question just how much damage there was from the earthquake alone. And seems to draw the conclusion that a meltdown was inevitable even before the tsunami reached the plant…

    What do you think?

    In my opinion this article supports what many experts have stated, the plant was doomed even before the tsunami hit the site.


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  • irhologram

    Except that many of us saw pix of that grate 2-3 years ago, as I mentioned a ove, the frid looked eaten away. It did not look dented or like edges were pointing down as an object deformed them. Also, it is said that the EQ OFSHORE was just under a 9, but 1) it was 50 miles from Sendai and did no major sturctural building damage or cracked streets, fallen overpasses, etc. Fukushima is another 100 miles or so away from the trench location of the earthquake.

    So…unless these guys have a picture of the metal deformed by i pact, I'd say the perfectly flat grid shows melt through.


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  • 17 Most Radioactive Places in the World!

    Guess what place is number 1 !!!!

    Here's a hint, It's not Chernobyl…

    https://youtu.be/3e41Q4KWvz8

    Not exactly scientific proof but at least people are starting to admit that Fukushima is in fact a worse disaster than Chernobyl and the worst release ever recorded. Admitting it's the most radioactively contaminated place in the world today is at least a start!!!


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  • This article is actually getting some semi-viral action on Facebook! 51K people talking about it.

    I have no idea why this article in particular is digging in after almost 6 years, but hey, it's a start.


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  • This is a good chance to get some real information out there, so comment, comment, comment, all you super with-it Fuku researchers. :-)


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  • You can help them to understand (the ones that want to) by adding to this momentum with real, hardcore facts.


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      • theworldisalie theworldisalie

        Oh was that all… I wonder how much plutonium was in that 195 tons.


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        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          plutonium…he gives the lower estimate of 433 lb


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        • About 6%. Good article on how this amount, and deposition from the atmosphere, based on past studies, means most people will get less than 1 microgram in their life.

          Some will be screwed, but this is not ELE by itself. Will find article…

          need to reboot

          stock out


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          • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

            Is that taken from global population numbers?


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          • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

            and is the "less than 1 microgram" the estimated size of the particulates? Or accumulative dose amount for the global population's exposure of particulates amounting to less than a microgram in their lifetime?


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          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            radiation effects…stochastic? Many people have seen the ice crystal pictures of Masaro Emotu. Intriguing, but when you try to look into it, there is a frustrating lack of explained scientific method and control.

            Perhaps fewer are aware that there has been another crystallization method in use for 80 years. 'Ehrenfried Pfeiffer developed a method in the 1930s to demonstrate visually the presence of formative forces―those forces acting on living organisms that emanate from the Earth, the Sun, and other planets. He arrived at the sensitive crystallization method, using copper chloride crystals mixed with samples of the particular plant.
            Sensitive crystallization is of great consequence to winemaking and winemakers.'

            Truely scientific minds will be open to the many things yet to be known. Exponential growth of discoveries is proof that mankind not only does not know it all, but in fact is very limited. Mankind has not mastered life, cannot even make a grape, a sunflower seed or indeed any living thing.

            When pro and anti nukers think about radiation, they tend to be 'reductionist' in their thought and conclusion. Maybe that minuscule bit of unnatural super poison is having an effect on the substrate of life in ways not measured by becquerels.

            http://www.forschungsinstitut.ch/en/research/sensitive-crystallization/
            http://webbut.unitbv.ro/BU2014/Series%20II/BULETIN%20II%20PDF/13_CIMPEAN_Cristalizare.pdf


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            • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

              Bulletin of the Transilvania University of Braşov • Series II • Vol. 7 (56) No. 1 – 2014
              Many scientific researchers have shown, during the latest years that water has remarkable properties: it can copy the information of a substance that is in contact to it, even if this substance is in the very, very small quantity compared to water. On the other hand, the cupric chloride behaves like a revelator of the information of the water, the same way silver is the revelator for the light in photography [3]. We can say that the appearance of the image of sensitive crystallization is very much like the way how iron dust is placed in a magnetic field, along the lines of this magnetic field, offering us a sort of “picture” of the magnetic field that now becomes “visible” for our eyes. From this point of view, the sensitive crystallization is a “photography” of the morphogenetic forces. When a solution of
              cupper chloride is in contact with a very small quantity of substance of biological origin, the water of the solution is impregnated with the information of the substrate, actually with the morphogenetic forces that coordinate the growth, the development and the degeneration of the living matter. These forces form what we may call the informational matrix of the analyzed substrate [4]. All the observation on the crystallization of the cupric chloride when it is in contact with a substance have shown that it is never combined with the analyzed substrate…


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              • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

                but it is just modifying its aspect, the morphology of the crystallization network.

                ****************

                Effects of the meltdowns are forever incalculable.


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                • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

                  Take a few sprinkles of your MSM powder, put it in a glass, clear dish, add a few drops of water, let dry. The crystal effects seen under the microscopes in the above images can be seen with the naked eye with this formula. Add salt, heat, sunlight and other variables to gage the outcome.

                  Life is too sensitive to change on so many levels to add man-made radionuclides. Especially in the amounts we have. It took billions of years to evolve in a forward motion, relying on every aspect of these molecular and frequency changes and adaptations, both seen and mostly unseen. How reckless and idiotic to do what we have with nuclear. Especially with little understanding of how things work and no consideration when we do understand. When nuclear watched human skin peel off from their radiation, they proclaimed "I bet it will boil water!"


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            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              incidently, if you look at the crystalizations halfway down in the article, one cant help but notice the similarity to the iris. Also to trees.

              But there is another similarity of form…the living cell. The cell looks very much like those images…the cytoskeleton forming a bush-like, branched, living structure that has very interesting characteristics to it…hundreds of mitochondria run in molecular sized tubes, vibrating in unison.

              This microcosm is a little version of your larger self, of course with the blueprint of your being in its center. The tiny tubes extend out from the cell, communicating with other cells by shuttling precious cargo on these 'filopodial bridges'.

              The cell has certain and specific vibrational frequencies. Recently I posted a meta study showing that health effects from radiation had specific frequency and harmonic relationships.

              The potassium-water is so structured that it is in a gel state. The potassium ions link to enzymes and a field effect of molecular bonding angles extends into the onion like shells of alternating polarity molecular structures.

              The cytoskeleton…that resembles the sensitive crystalization pictures, allows the cell to change shape, to divide. Its highly dynamic, alive and unified. When scientists and pro or anti nuclear people think about radiation effects, they are very limited in their visualization and understanding of the living picture. Voltage and ion gradients are known factors in…


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              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                sorry, the word limit…a sure sign Im blabbing. I was referring to the crystalization images in this article
                http://webbut.unitbv.ro/BU2014/Series%20II/BULETIN%20II%20PDF/13_CIMPEAN_Cristalizare.pdf

                It appears that the east Europeans have been doing some of the leading edge study on cell biology. I think very few of the nuclear health physicists are educated in their findings. There are forms of radiation that are studied by very few and which show information carrying ability and are stimulated by the natural radiation within the cell. I first read about these biophotons more than thirty years ago.

                Maybe the take away is that three pound brain ape man should be VERY WARY about thinking he knows the answers, knows the effects and can improve or exploit nature without consequence. So far, man only mastered dead things, a non living chemistry, and even there, very crudely. Usually he gets the best ideas by copying natures exquisite design. This subject and philosophy is very pertinent to the nuclear problem


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                • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                  I do recall your blab, made me think back to bio, then to brain chemistry, then to a lot of 'stuff'.
                  I find the energy/freq correlation interesting.

                  I think we will find we are a little 'short' on the big picture.


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                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    AST, the cell structures are pretty small, so you can imagine…high frequencies. I looked many years ago…as an uneducated cretan…for resonance effects at the cellular level…but all you find is lock and key biology. The small is viscous and damped. But dig far enough and you never know what brilliant research you might find.Wavelet analysis reveals heterogeneous time-dependent oscillations of individual mitochondria.
                    Kurz FT1, Aon MA, O'Rourke B, Armoundas AA.
                    Author information
                    Abstract

                    Mitochondrial inner membrane potential oscillations in cardiac myocytes synchronize under oxidative or metabolic stress, leading to synchronized whole cell oscillations. Gaining information about the temporal properties of individual mitochondrial oscillators is essential to comprehend the network's intrinsic spatiotemporal organization. We have developed methods to detect individual mitochondrial tetramethylrhodamine ethyl ester fluorescence oscillations and assess their dynamical properties using wavelet analysis. We demonstrate that these advanced signal processing tools can provide quantitative spatiotemporal information about intermitochondrial coupling. We have found that the mean frequency of selected groups of continuously oscillating mitochondria was 16.49 ± 1.04 mHz, whereas the mean frequency in the normalized mean global wavelet spectrum was 22.84 ± 1.80 mHz (n = 9 myocytes). In conclusion, this novel methodology will help shed new light on the dynamical properties…


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                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      Yes, I remember finding (short definition) cell 'synchro'. A lot of energy dynamics.

                      We have a lot of turbines, some very high freq/db. A lot of stress, no sleep, mass amounts of energy bombardmet in the work areas. Many sick, affected, long term guys

                      I was studying brain function/bi-polar cause/effect at the time, ran across info such as you speak. It was a long study.

                      Add in some absolute zero lab time/work for the sake of science.

                      There is a lot to learn, people and animals chemically, are sensitive to things we do not fully grasp.
                      There are many variables, too many.

                      Nuclear/atomic pollution is a very bad idea
                      Uneven mass dispersion, and moving targets
                      Too many individuals, no good tracking, zip
                      We may find out too late just how bad. :(

                      sorry this might sound a bit fu, I'm on acall sooooo….. submit!


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  • I kinda meant comment on FB, though, where most people don't know what is up. :-)


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  • If you click on the "Trending topic," it will take you to a screen of all the people sharing it, etc. And you can throw some mad factz their way.


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  • MVB MVB

    Just a quick note on why they might be calling the measured "unimaginable".

    The value is almost meaningless without also knowing the distance from the emitting source, due the inverse square law. The calculation is made easy @ http://www.radprocalculator.com/ (-> other calculations –> inverse square law)

    If 530 Sv/hr was measured from a mere 10 cm away (4 inches), then the dose rate at the surface of the fuel itself, let's say at a distance of just 1 mm, would be 5.3 million Sievert/hr.

    The distance is unknown, though. Just stating the obvious,

    MVB


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  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-03/

    TEPCO Admits Fukushima Radiation Levels Reach Record Highs As Hole In Reactor Discovered


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  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

    “more and more evidence of a “Chernobyl dementia” phenomena [I didn’t locate the page number]

    Chernobyl 20 Years On; The Health Effects of the Chernobyl Accident.
    https://www.ratical.org/radiation/Chernobyl/chernobylebook.pdf

    Neuropsychiatric effects. Pp. 80-


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  • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

    http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201702030064.html

    Radiation level in Fukushima reactor could kill within a minute

    THE ASAHI SHIMBUN

    February 3, 2017

    Most informative.


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  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

    Radiation Levels Are Soaring Inside the Damaged Fukushima Nuclear Plant
    Feb 3, 2017
    “…The radiation level inside the plant now far exceeds the previous high of 73 sieverts per hour, which was recorded soon after the triple meltdown in March 2011. Tepco made the readings by analyzing electronic noise caused by the radiation in video images. The company says this technique has a margin of error of plus or minus 30 percent (so even at the extreme low ball, the levels are no lower than 370 sieverts per minute—but possibly as high as 690!)….”
    http://gizmodo.com/radiation-levels-are-soaring-inside-the-damaged-fukushi-1791958714


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  • Jebus Jebus

    'Fukushima catastrophe ongoing: Leakage on a daily basis’ – 2/7/17

    There are many shoes still to drop at Fukushima Daiichi, said Kevin Kamps, radioactive waste monitor at Beyond Nuclear. If something goes wrong with the radioactive waste storage pools, there could be a release of high-level radioactivity into the air, he added.

    Radiation at Fukushima’s nuclear power plant is at its highest level since the tsunami-triggered meltdown nearly six years ago. Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) is reporting atmospheric readings inside Daiichi’s reactor No.2 are as high as 530 sieverts an hour, while a human exposed to a single dose of 10 sieverts would die in a couple of weeks.

    It is not unexpected, but we still don’t know where the cores are. There are claims that “it’s all contained, don’t worry about it.” It is indisputable that there is a daily flow of radioactively contaminated groundwater into the ocean. The figures something like 80,000 gallons per day of relatively low-level radioactive waste water. Then you’ve got those storage tanks – we’re talking 800,000 tons of highly radioactive water stored in tanks. Every day they pour a hundred tons of water on each of these three melted down cores. Sometimes they lose those tanks. They leak, they overflow – it is an ongoing catastrophe.

    We’re just in the beginning.

    https://www.rt.com/op-edge/376607-leakage-radiation-fukushima-japan/


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  • unincredulous unincredulous

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hxy1BxDuzk#t=106.305062 530Sv news

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgfZ_SeA-pc 530Sv news

    2:35 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpFvgnrdL-o never heard of the tunnel dug under Chernobyl

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j3Mu3Lcqpc Japan Declares Crisis As Fukushima Reactor Begins Falling Into Ocean And Radiation Levels Soar. I think PJ, or Anna posted the title earlier but I did not see a link


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  • Mack Mack

    Drudgereport has an article on the high radiation readings at Fukushima

    Quote from the article:

    "…the level of the reading should give pause to proponents of nuclear power in Japan, including Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, who has been pushing to restart reactors shut down after the 2011 disaster.

    It’s unbelievable that anyone would want to restart nuclear plants when Japan hasn't learned how and why the Fukushima Daiichi accident happened, or learned lessons from it," said Fumiya Tanabe

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/02/08/japanese-nuclear-plant-just-recorded-an-astronomical-radiation-level-should-we-be-worried/?utm_term=.70515766f4d1


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  • unincredulous unincredulous

    "Unimaginable" radiation. 150 ton core meltdown.

    Well, now you know.


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  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

    how does the radioactivity of corium compare to spent fuel?


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    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

      that is a good question I wish I knew.
      Spent fuel becomes corium if not cooled after burnup.

      Can they measure fuel bundles in the cooling racks?
      Inverse square root for corium, can't get that close?

      I thought I read 10000Sv @ 1 meter for spent fuel, but I don't remember if/how long cooled. Seemed like it was on that reddit link someone posted. ?? Could have been 100k, rem/rad/???

      I should probably learn more about it. Got a trip coming, maybe after.


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      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        most of the radioactivity is from fission products, which is roughly 4% of the fuel. Almost ALL of the volatile fission products escaped. One would think that corium is less radioactive than spent fuel.

        Where was Japan planning on storing their nuclear waste for the next 10,000 years? They arent using big enough machines. FLood with water, cut it all up, dig it up and put it into storage containers and store it with the rest of the spent fuel…..if only they had a place.


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        • AirSepTech AirSepTech

          Hey Code got an answer..maybe.
          Funny, I call a friend, he says no difference.

          Then I read the current WashPost piece on this, and in the comments there was a statement to the same effect. From the tone, I am real sure the guy was a nuke engineer.

          So nuke engineers say corium/spent fuel same rads.

          ???


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        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          wasnt Paveway here just the other day or did I dream it?

          I say if they can handle spent fuel, they can handle corium. Just need the right tool for the job. How did they scoop up the melt in unit4 SFP?


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          • AirSepTech AirSepTech

            Paveway…im all screwed up from looking at archive stuff, and quite a few vet posters lately…no help sorry
            It seems so. :(

            Yes, just needs to cool. Which is my biggest question. Heat.
            Where is it and how hot? Never hear 'official' numbers.

            Why?


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            • AirSepTech AirSepTech

              Sorry, SFP#4 was easy, had a water shield, or they left it
              until its cool enough.
              We only get 'very' controled info.

              That is a fact. ;)


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              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                That is why I say, they should flood the whole place and use mega saws to cut the place into pieces. But this implies failure. As it stands, Fukushima is in cold shutdown, and every step is a 100% success, and the shareholders are still making money. I dont buy the story that they cant decommission it. They would if they had to. Science is their enabler…the world dies


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            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              Cooling the decay heat is a question of a few years. If it was all spent fuel, we would be there now. It is interesting that they had to build that mega sarcophagus at chernobyl. Apparently they still cant approach the corium, cut it up into bite sized chunks and store in the usual manner…..wait, there is no usual manner….

              After Chernobyl unit 4 blew up and rendered livestock as far away as Wales to be inedible for decades, units 1,2 and 3 were still operated. In 1991, a fire shut down reactor 2. Reactor 1 continued operating until 1996. The final reactor was eventually shut down in 2000.

              So we are dealing with money and power hungry bastards, and I think this determines the fate. Somehow, the sarcophagus was the cheapest decommission method…


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              • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                Yes, it is a moneymaker.
                It is the standard nuke play
                We didn't do it and you can't prove it.
                They control the science and narrative.

                They can not afford a 'blatant foul' while climate change is in question. It is their golden parachute.

                So the façade of a non failure stands, just an 'oops', a '1000' year event is to blame.

                And the band plays on, unless a LOT of people raise hell. We just need to keep the heat turned up. :)


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