Record radiation detected at Fukushima nuclear plant — Multiple locations register highest levels ever measured — “Radioactive materials in groundwater toward the ocean”

Published: July 3rd, 2017 at 12:12 pm ET
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Tokyo Electric Power Company, Results of Radioactive Analysis around Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station:

Results of radioactive nuclide analysis for groundwater at the east side of Unit 1-4 Turbine Buildings and seawater at the port in order to monitor the source, the extent, and the effect of the radioactive materials in the groundwater toward the ocean.

Underground water observation hole No.1, published Jun 28, 2017:

  • Gross Beta = 24,000,000 Becquerels per cubic meter (24,000 Becquerels per liter) *1

Underground water observation hole No.3-5, published Jun 27, 2017:

  • Tritium = 190,000 Becquerels per cubic meter (190 Becquerels per liter) *1

*1 The highest result announced in “Detailed Analysis Results in the Port of Fukushima Daiichi NPS, around Discharge Channel and Bank Protection” or the other handouts is provided.

See all results from June 2017 here

Published: July 3rd, 2017 at 12:12 pm ET
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  • or-well or-well

    Rob Godfrey has a brief, to-the-point essay on the situation in France.

    http://www.spiderbomb.com/blog/?p=4167


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    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

      Good stuff o.

      What is the general 'mood' north of the nuthouse?
      I have not had good/long talks with some very good friends lately.
      Summer/work/stuff


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      • or-well or-well

        AirSepTech
        Anyone I speak with thinks u-no-hoo is a dangerous nut.
        The right-wingers think he just might be able to turn things around – as in democratize the .gov – haha – crazy as usual they are.
        Growing rightwing hate/fear movement/bandwagon/gravytrain going on, ridden by flakes, opportunists, sociopaths and generally shitheaded mofos.
        Much like Murka, only with real tea.


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  • or-well or-well

    OK – filled the sidebar in my Mcfartanus impersonation. Hope it wasn't as absurdly useless as his spew usually is.


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  • DUDe

    Tekst"news" on Belgium TV :

    Tepco is gonne flush the radiated cooling water they stored in the ocean after removing all radioactive elements except one.


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  • SadieDog

    New Ene headline- "Despite the objections of local fishermen, the tritium-tainted water stored at the Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant will be dumped into the sea, a top official at Tokyo Electric says.

    “The decision has already been made,” Takashi Kawamura, chairman of Tokyo Electric Power Company Holdings Inc., said in a recent interview with the media.

    Tritium typically poses little risk to human health unless ingested in high amounts, and ocean discharges of diluted volumes of tritium-tainted water are a routine part of nuclear power plant operations. This is because it is a byproduct of nuclear operations but cannot be filtered out of water.

    As of July 6, about 777,000 tons were stored in about 580 tanks at the Fukushima plant, which is quickly running out of space."

    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/07/14/national/science-health/tepco-says-decision-already-made-release-radioactive-low-toxic-tritium-sea-fishermen-irate/#.WWjkVmt5mK0


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    • SadieDog

      The radiological significance of tritium is not related to its inherent toxicity, as it is a very low energy form of radiation, but to its easy incorporation into all parts of the body that contain water (Select Committee Report p.15).

      Tritiated water can be ingested in the liquid form. It can also be inhaled or absorbed through the skin in the form of water vapour or steam, which makes tritium an occupational hazard in CANDU nuclear power plants. In pregnant females, tritium ingested by the mother can cross the placenta and be incorporated directly into the foetus.

      Like all radioactive substances, tritium can cause cancer, genetic mutations, or developmental defects in unborn children (the latter following pre-natal exposure of the foetus). No threshold or "safe dose" of tritium has been scientifically established for any of these effects.

      http://www.ccnr.org/tritium_1.html


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    • SadieDog

      "Aquatic ecosystems are chronically exposed to natural radioactivity or to artificial radionuclides released by human activities (e.g., nuclear medicine and biology,nuclear industry, military applications). Should the nuclear industry expand in the future, radioactive environmental releases, under normal operating conditions or accidental ones, are expected to increase, which raises public concerns about possible consequences on the environment and human health. Radionuclide exposures may drive macromolecule alterations, and among macromolecules DNA is the major target for ionizing radiations. DNA damage, if not correctly repaired, may induce mutations, teratogenesis, and reproductive effects. As such, damage at the molecular level may have consequences at the population level. In this review, we present an overview of the literature dealing with the effects of radionuclides on DNA, development, and reproduction of aquatic organisms."

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22610297


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  • SadieDog

    "Radiation from x-rays, even in as low doses such as those required for recurrent CT imaging, could have long-term harmful effects on the cardiovascular system, according to a new study.

    While it’s known that high-dose ionizing radiation exposure, be it medical or environmental, can lead to symptoms suggesting an increased risk of cardiovascular disease, the study showed that even low exposure doses are associated with significantly increased risk of cardiovascular damage for up to decades after."

    http://www.massdevice.com/study-low-dose-radiation-linked-harmful-long-term-cardiovascular-effects/


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    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      thanks Sadie. May I humbly tag onto this interesting post on low dose radiation? Two points; primary DNA damage wasnt the causative factor. The DNA damage was a secondary effect in a biological cascade. Dont underestimate the importance of this. It overturns the entire presumption of nuclear danger, the stochastic ionizing track DNA damage doctrine.

      Secondly, there is possible link to the glutamine cascade and the damage to endothelial cells and nitric oxide production. Point source radiation…like shards of glass in beach sand.

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10534426

      "Endothelial cells form the inner layer of blood vessels and were found to produce reduced amounts of the essential molecule nitric oxide during several processes, including vascular contraction. Researchers said that while previous reports have shown decreases in nitric oxide in high-dose radiation mice studies, the study was the 1st to show impaired nitric oxide signaling at low doses.

      The exposed cells were also shown to produce increased amounts of reactive oxygen species, which can damage DNA and proteins, according to the study.

      Study authors concluded that the molecular changes “are indicative of long-term premature dysfunction and suggest a mechanistic explanation to the epidemiological data showing increased risk of cardiovascular disease after low-dose radiation exposure."


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      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        anybody who really wants to understand why nuclear fallout is different than background, and why its a threat to life, even while being a much smaller component of your total dose, should understand that the scientific dose model is flawed, even conceptually.

        You may have 1000x more radiation from background yet it may be fallout that is causing ALL of the problem.

        In low level radiation, the root problem is cellular biology, not radiation hits to DNA. Thus science mistakenly denies the morbidity effect shown by epidemiology of Chernobyl, and proven by the ability to re-mediate by dietary and supplemental means.

        Its a little frustrating that people dont catch on to the importance of this. Its really the key to overthrowing the legal and conceptual wall that allows the nuclear industry to exist and continue, embodied in the ICRP dose model. Without this understanding, you will lose an argument with Cullen et al


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      • SadieDog

        Of course Code. You don't need my permission. Thanks for the input.


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  • SadieDog

    "Villagers of Jadugoda say radiation from uranium mines is impairing their children. It is high time the government took measures against it so that a generation is not left crippled.

    The body of Guria Das looked like that of a three-year-old when she passed away at the age of 13. Guria was born in 1999 with a condition that constrained her growth. Her father, Chhatua Das recounts how Guria, unable to speak or move, communicated with him and his wife through gestures—a language that only the three of them could comprehend. Born in Jadugoda, in Purbi Singhbhum district in Jharkhand, Guria was one of the many children who succumbed to the health complications due to excessive radiation from the uranium mines."

    https://m.yourstory.com/2017/07/jharkhand-jadugoda-radiation-uranium-mining/


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  • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

    Here's some stuff about ATP, again, possibly related to cell function and say…glutamine/glutamate and some other stuff too.

    "Ionizing radiation induces mitochondrial reactive oxygen species production accompanied by upregulation of mitochondrial electron transport chain function and mitochondrial content under control of the cell cycle checkpoint"

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0891584912002468

    "Ionizing radiation induces the production of reactive oxygen species, which play an important causative role in apoptotic cell death. By supplying NADPH for antioxidant systems, we recently demonstrated that the control of mitochondrial redox balance and the cellular defense against oxidative damage are some of the primary functions of mitochondrial NADP+-dependent isocitrate dehydrogenase (IDPm)."

    http://www.jbc.org/content/282/18/13385.full

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8469730

    http://www.bioone.org/doi/10.1667/RR1737.1

    There may be some better links.


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    • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

      What is NADP?


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      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        really? Nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide phosphate, abbreviated NADP⁺ or, in older notation, TPN, is a cofactor used in anabolic reactions, such as lipid and nucleic acid synthesis, which require NADPH as a reducing agent

        Good nutrition can counteract fallout to some degree, an indication that the concept of how radiation damages biology is flawed. Niacin, glutathione, papain, manganese, ….not just blockers of absorption


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        • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

          Really.

          Most of the information I get and derive from is music, which is odd, but it is what is. I don't aaaanything about this stuff.


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          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            use your intuition and connect the dots. You might try reading about the Ling association induction hypothesis. Although its perhaps a long shot, it gives a different picture of cellular biology…the field which will finally elaborate on why man made radiation is a different beast than the much larger quantity of background radiation


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    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

      thanks Farth!

      Chernobyl research scientist Bandazhevsky isolated the glutamine pathway as one key to unraveling low dose nuclear fallout damage…

      low level radiation from fallout causes systemic morbidity…a dose of ill health to everything, at levels significantly below background radiation. The normal concept of radiation hits to DNA does not explain this, and thus mainstream science chooses to ignore the evidence

      Its becoming clear that most of the DNA damage may occur as a secondary effect of systemic biological dysfunction or morbidity. Reactive oxygen species, or oxygen free radicals are thought to cause most of that damage. But its a complicated picture. ROS is also used as an information mediator. The bystander effect comes in here as 50x as many cells can be effected than the one actually hit by radiation.

      'Whereas ionizing radiation (Ir) instantaneously causes the formation of water radiolysis products that contain some reactive oxygen species (ROS), ROS are also suggested to be released from biological sources in irradiated cells. It is now becoming clear that these ROS generated secondarily after Ir have a variety of biological roles'

      glutamine mitigates mitochondrial ROS
      https://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v532/n7598/fig_tab/nature17393_F4.html

      Mitochondrial metabolism and ROS generation are essential for Kras-mediated tumorigenicity
      http://www.pnas.org/content/107/19/8788.full

      a graphic
      http://www.mdpi


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        • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

          There was another graphic I linked to about the ATP and glutamine/glutamate cycle, you probably remember it (well, vaguely).

          Anyway, can't find it currently.

          But oh well..

          Oxidative stress, nitrogen?

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutamine_synthetase
          https://seqcore.brcf.med.umich.edu/sites/default/files/html/mcb500/aasyl/aametab.html


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          • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

            Farth, dont drown your own contributions in mire. That hexagonal mandala of glutamine enzyme….its amazing but doesnt quite show the bigger picture. If you take hamburger meat, all ground up, the water doesnt all flow out, even if you squeeze it. Meat eaters can try that. The water electrolyte is so well structured and bound that its not really like liquid anymore. Those enzymatic reactions, and the cell biology, utilize the water in its function…the hydrogen bonds. But it goes far beyond that. The molecules are lined up like the shells of an onion in alternating polarity. This gives a structure which unifies the cellular biology, according to the association-induction theory. Its this that interests me as far as understanding why low level radiation can be so damaging. Because there is far more radiation naturally present than fallout, for most victims of nuclear. We have seen that its the secondary pathways in the biological cascade of events which may do most of the damage.

            Two headed whales…is there a gene for that? There are about a handful of causes that have been found that control the shape of organisms. You will find the hedghog and other complicated things. But two stand out for me…the ionic and voltage gradients. This is being studied by very few people.

            autoradiographs of animals exposed to nuclear fallout show very clearly that there are point sources of radiation. These must be hot particles containing millions of atoms. But there must be…


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            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              continued …..blah blah blah


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              • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                Excellent study area and you should try to break that code! :)


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                • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                  Killing the Pacific Ocean should be against international law..but it isn't! :(

                  Do not drive through a stop light or jaywalk!

                  Radioactive water used to cool the crippled Fukushima plant is to be released into the Pacific Ocean, according to new plans.
                  The 'decision has already been made' to release the radioactive material said the new chairman of Tokyo Electric Power Company Holdings, the owner of the plant, on Thursday.
                  Currently around 770,000 tonnes of contaminated water is stored in 580 tanks at the plant and authorities are running out of space.

                  Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4697604/Radioactive-water-Fukushima-released-Pacific.html#ixzz4mqEzmBIp
                  Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook


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                  • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

                    You really like the dalymail, don't you?

                    I dunno, some good articles at times but like, half of the page is…yeah, no.

                    I mean, someone else mentioned that earlier today (was it Sadie? Sorry I don't remember).

                    Also, at nuclear-news.org.

                    https://nuclear-news.net/2017/07/14/fishermen-express-fury-as-fukushima-plant-set-to-release-radioactive-material-into-ocean/

                    Something really dark is going on here.


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                    • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

                      Oh right, nuclear-news.net

                      My bad.


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                    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

                      Daily mail is our world..own it.. for what it is!

                      Bat-shit crazy has/knows no borders! :)


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                    • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

                      Uhm, DUDe may like this. Relates to some other crap recently mentioned too.

                      https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-daly-793ab055

                      "Patrick Daly

                      Senior VP Projects, EnergySolutions

                      Oak Ridge, Tennessee
                      Environmental Services

                      Current

                      Canadian Nuclear Laboratories, Canadian Nuclear Laboratories and Canadian Nuclear Energy Alliance

                      Previous
                      ZionSolutions

                      Education
                      University of Michigan"


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                    • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

                      No worries, one of my Daily Hat Tricks.


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                    • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

                      Just saying… check some DHT, while you're at it.


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                    • razzz razzz

                      I can see both you and Code are overwhelmed by action-reaction of radioisotopes esp. when inside a body and you both try to make sense of it, if that is at all possible.

                      The problem with DNA damage (ex. spawning two headed beings) is if a mutation survives then you have a new species. Godlike unintended consequences.

                      With tritium, it is radioactive hydrogen until in combines with oxygen to become radioactive water. One inert the other decaying. The link to dumping tritiated water claims no method of removal while every military needing tritium for nuke triggers has no problem exacting and stockpiling tritium.

                      TEPCO's problem, is reaching high concentrations of tritiated water to the point of becoming unstable for mass storage. Tritium's beta decay seems harmless outside a body but cancer causing inside a body when combined to form radioactive water which can pass directly thru skin.

                      Cost avoidance is TEPCO's concern with removing and capturing tritium from tritiated water. If it was a one time dump maybe they could make a case but new inventory is produced by the minute along with all the other manmade radioisotopes that they have no control over other than let it wash away into the Pacific and beyond.

                      Like inert hydrogen, tritium is difficult and expense to contain and store. About 120 years for it to decay away to Helium-3.

                      Tritium used to be a rare occurrence in nature.


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                    • DUDe

                      Interesting post razzz..so basically , they DO CAN clean the water almost 100% percent of nuclear pollution..but they choose to let so much roam free in the environment for 70 years..


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                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      razzz, if you dont mind me saying, your grasp of genetics appears to be old school. Two headed whales is a clue…what do you think the chances are that random genetic hits are going to code for a bifurcation of the spine just there. Thats a disfunctional shape surely downgraded to oblivion in the evolution of organisms…yet we see a lot of this gross malformation. Simply put, its not a new animal at all, its a deformed one, and of the known handful of biomorphic controllers, you have the ionic and voltage gradients which would make a fit to nuclear fallout.

                      'In addition to biochemical gradients and transcriptional networks, cell behavior
                      is regulated by endogenous bioelectrical cues originating in the activity of ion channels and
                      pumps, operating in a wide variety of cell types. Instructive signals mediated by changes in
                      resting potential control proliferation, differentiation, cell shape, and apoptosis of stem, progenitor,
                      and somatic cells. . Spatiotemporal changes in Vmem distribution among nonneural somatic tissues
                      regulate pattern formation and serve as signals that trigger limb regeneration, induce
                      eye formation, set polarity of whole-body anatomical axes, and orchestrate craniofacial patterning.
                      New tools for tracking and functionally altering Vmem gradients in vivo have identified novel roles for bioelectrical signaling and revealed the molecular pathways by which Vmem changes are transduced into cascades of downstream gene expression…


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                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Might I just add that saying Im overwhelmed by action reaction of low level radioactivity effects is kind of a put down. Or we could say you are overwhelmed as well, as is everyone else. The difference is that I made significant strides by study of cross discipline papers to connect dots and paint a picture that helps explain the low dose conundrum. Heck, most werent aware there even IS a conundrum and reacted with strong denial about it. Its no great accomplishment, certainly not primary research, yet who else is doing it? Not you, if you dont mind me saying so….I admit,…perhaps its too overwhelming


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                  • DUDe

                    Zion..screw that man and his organization lol..

                    Lengty article about Tritium removal from water..includes a pdf..

                    Recovery of Tritium from Tritiated Waste Water Cost-Effectiveness Analysis

                    The US government (Drake-LANL, 1996) study, “Recovery of Tritium from Tritiated Waste Water Cost-Effectiveness Analysis” (see images below) was written by a physicist who holds an MBA, and did years of Ph.D. work in economics. Tritiated water is radioactive water. It is striking that his study opens up by saying: “Tritiated water is many 1000s of times more biologically toxic than tritium gas due to our water-based body’s propensity to incorporate tritiated water into its very makeup,” whereas currently the nuclear industry, of which the US DOE and NRC are acting as branches, rather than regulators, pretend that it is safe because it is dispersed throughout the body, even though this runs counter to logic. It must be clarified, as well, that he does not mean evaporated tritiated water, which is very dangerous upon inhalation and skin absorption, but rather pure tritium gas.

                    He states: “The Tritium Systems Test Assembly group at Los Alamos has developed a Palladium Membrane Reactor/ Isotope Separation System (PMR/ISS) to treat tritiated water. A waste-free effluent is produced composed of CO and CO2 which can be directly stacked to the environment.


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                    • DUDe

                      ..continued

                      It is simple to operate and reliable using well-established technologies (palladium permeator and catalytic reactor, and cryogenic distillation). Tritium is recovered for storage and recycle with a recovery efficiency of 99.999999%. Cost is believed to be about one third that of the current baseline Magnesium treatment technology, and may be even better once scale-up of the prototype has been accomplished. The PMR/ISS technology exceeds pollution prevention goals by eliminating all pollution. It also recovers tritium for storage and future use, capturing any value associated with a shadow price for tritium.”

                      https://miningawareness.wordpress.com/2015/04/13/recovery-of-tritium-from-tritiated-waste-water-cost-effectiveness-analysis/


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                    • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

                      You know what a Pa trick is right? My tricks.


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                    • DUDe

                      I dont get charmed by having trown zen-riddles between my legs to be honest , especially about fellow individuals lol
                      Keep moving..


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                    • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

                      Well, there was this song about a tale or tail between our legs. Know your place and shit like that.

                      Anyway, cheers, sleepy time.


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                    • razzz razzz

                      Canada and their CANDU reactors have to routinely remove tritium buildup and of course the local site's waterways are full of tritiated water (not to be confused with heavy water). So however effectively they try to do removal, it ends up in the environment anyway.

                      In the US it seems they dump it until they get caught dumping.

                      To morph a negative into a positive, you will read manmade tritium is used as a tracer i.e. for tracking ocean currents, as some kind of benefit to science.

                      That great nuclear experiment that has gone wrong as applied with Murphy's Law.


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                    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                      Correct in the separation, 'Fractional Cryogenic Distillation' is more correct.

                      Differing boiling points is the ticket, concentrations and the spread between the boiling points is the 'hard work/success' story.

                      Distillation is fascinating to me, even after many years. Simple minded fun.

                      Ethanol is easy, but you do have to make it

                      Xenon, not so much, at .0000086% concentrations.

                      Cost is what holds them back, and scale.
                      Had they built a plant to do this, they would have designed for through-put, there would be very little storage now.

                      Funny, it always comes down to someone's profit.
                      Thus, the world will be lost.

                      A shameless plug for AST's worldwide.
                      It can be difficult, it is not always safe.
                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_separation


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  • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

    Neuropathy hurts like a motherfucker, btw. I wouldn't recommend it.


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    • razzz razzz

      CodeShutdown: Rediscovering others findings may be only confirming prior work.

      I have no doubt the US already knows or knew what would happen when a Chernobyl or Daiichi event were to occur, right down to the types of cancer and their occurrence rates (think Manhattan Project). Do you really think some congressmen in closed sessions are running the show? Maybe setting up misdirection for public consumption but it is their (military?) handlers who direct and instruct sitting presidents, on down the line.

      Chernobyl studies were only confirmation of what was expected or why else jail scientists and destroy their lab work or seal medical records of patients in and around nuke sites, nuke tests and nuke catastrophes? Includes military nuke usage on battlefields.

      Two headed anything is an extreme example for effect but twins, blue eyed and blonde haired, etc., are anomalies. Everyday anomalies. Accepted anomalies. Hence the fascination of performing medical studies during the Hitler era which those findings are still used as a basis today. Lethargic would be an anomaly, radioactively induced, hard to diagnose, mainly because 'medical science' is heavily lobbied to avoid such findings.

      Unless you are constructing a computer program to put the pieces of the puzzle together, I doubt any one person could go it alone.


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      • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

        razzz. Im with you regarding government corruption. An appalling revelation compared to the innocence of ones view as a child.

        There is a difference between expecting what might happen and knowing why it happens. No small point. I think the Buesselers and Cullens of the world are sincere in their belief that low level radiation from fallout is the same as the effect from similar doses given by background. How would YOU argue that point with them?

        You seem to suggest that random mutations give rise to random anomalies. But this view only supports the mistaken view of the stochastic DNA hit theory which is upholding the ICRP model and views of scientists everywhere. Red or brown hair, blue or brown eyes? Try this; ubiquitous microcephaly and morbidity. Half the affected didnt have slightly larger brains. Nuclear fallout doesnt randomly create geniuses.
        microcephaly in Fukushima monkeys
        https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-03866-8

        The arrow of evolution induced by nuke fallout is downward. We cant afford that retardation and sickness. Similar doses, accumulated over life times and thousands or millions of generations from background did not have a similar vector of evolution or there would be nothing left.

        Its true, the understanding of the biophysics is intense. Nuclear health 'physicists' arent cutting edge cellular biologists and vice versa. But education or grasp occurs on many levels. By re-hashing the banana dose equivalent lie…


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        • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

          sorry, windbag code ran out of allowed words. razzz, please explain the banana dose equivalent lie. Im still confused, please….

          Please explain why you think the ocean is suffering mass casualties even though the radiation from Fukushima is 1/1000 background. You have the intelligence and confidence that tells me you can explain it. At least some bullet points…something, anything…

          is it stochastic DNA damage from high energy tracks of ionization accelerating the evolution process?


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        • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

          I have blue, green and brown eyes. I'm a fucking mutant.

          Anyway…at nuclear-news.net

          "JAPAN. Small head size and delayed body weight growth in wild Japanese monkey fetuses after the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster. Fishermen express fury as Fukushima plant set to release radioactive material into ocean. TEPCO chair: Nuclear plant must release contaminated water."

          I'm gonna mention a couple of totally unrelated things too (I mean, I already did, not that I can take credit for it).

          Those cas9 crispr mutations leading to like 1500 genome changes, for instance.

          And well, GMO wheat (cas9 crispr), the homology (as long as it contains gluten) espoused as acceptable by one of those Vatican fucktards.


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          • Cooter

            Got it backwards that's CRISPTcas9 and while it is a protein and the mechanism of transmittal is through a bacteria, others use a virus. Bacterial for plants and virus for animals works best, but both carry RNA targeted sequencing;
            See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRISPR

            You state "1500 genome changes" this is actually wrong and is only 50-55 sequential changes max., in the both the plant and animal world.

            CRISPTcas9 is predominately used by Monsanto but there is cas10 when used in conjunction with cas9 of which your homology refers too shows promise of better plant seed germination. Soybeans

            cas0 and cas10 when they get it developed will ensure that the organic soybean farmer will be put out of business for good with only GMO traits found in any soybean plant. This will be the first time in the worlds history that man has created a new Genetically modified plant that will never contain natural genome sequencing ever again. The soybean that nature gave us will be forever changed. Why did Monsanto choose soybean because it is the most important food grown. First they dominated soybeans then, on to dominate man.


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        • razzz razzz

          With government (paid) shills, they come off more like spokesmen than scientists taking liberties outside their scope of field. Much talk in generalities and rarely recognizing independent studies on nuclear industries (radioactive and toxic elements). Plus their peers or colleagues avoid arguments.

          Inquire about Hanford's ongoing and forever cleanup and you get a redirect to some other subject matter because Hanford is to real world. Question the west Pacific coast die offs and you get blank stares and silence which is also real time and real world results. Normally researchers clamor about such events, chomping at the bit for studies. Not lately. Don't want to know, don't do the studies.

          Cancer rates speak for themselves for the last 70 years or so. More interesting would be a breakdown of attribution i.e. nuke related, toxic elements related, oil industry related, medically induced and so on.

          The (innate) healing trait of cells and organisms to human beings is a puzzle within itself but overburden leads to a lower quality of life that not even self-repair is spared from interference.

          They can't even agree on a basic concept or model to use as a standard rule resorting to percentages instead of facts. The fact being, why does one suffer and not the other? How can Olympic times improve as the world suffers as a whole?

          Past nuke fallout is continuously raining out, events like Chernobyl and Daiichi ensure a continued source.


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          • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

            "More interesting would be a breakdown of attribution i.e. nuke related, toxic elements related, oil industry related, medically induced and so on."

            This is something I don't buy regarding "causative" scientific suggestions. I am unable to isolate multiple, correlating, causative factors in a system with multiple variables. But I'm stupid, so.


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          • razzz razzz

            Greed is one thing, stupidity is another.

            Remember when TEPCO was de-constructing Unit 3, without any tenting or cover? Workers' drinking water source was found to be radioactively contaminated during that period. If I remember correctly, the drinking water holding tank was found to be exposed to open air at the time.

            TEPCO commissions a study and investigates. Results include tenting Unit 1, using vacuums to remove debris, misting for dust control. All to control radioactive construction dust.

            Sheer genius after the fact.


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            • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

              " The fact being, why does one suffer and not the other? How can Olympic times improve as the world suffers as a whole?"
              Indeed, why did some people go blind at Bhopal and others not? This raises the question,…can one even blame Union Carbide pesticide at all?

              Modern men are wimps, athletes in decline
              https://phys.org/news/2009-10-modern-men-wimps.html

              Some arguments seem prozaic at best IMHO;
              "scientists taking liberties outside their scope of field"
              " More interesting would be a breakdown of attribution"
              " overburden leads to a lower quality of life that not even self-repair is spared from interference."
              "The fact being, why does one suffer and not the other?"

              Help me out please; Im going to have a discussion with a scientist soon…how can I make a cogent argument that Fukushima low level radiation is at the very least, 1000x worse than the same type of radiation from natural sources? Give me some pointers. Breakdown of attribution…yes, maybe most of the damage is from background radiation. scientists taking liberties; yes, maybe its just too far over our heads…trust the real experts. Indeed, what model to use as a standard rule resorting to percentages instead of facts? With faster running times, maybe nuclear HAS created superior athletes, despite the tiny extra burden of repair…


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              • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                Consider all assumptions made by the mainstream science on nuke fallout effects suspect of error. They ignore research of Yablokov and Bandazhevsky and many others because they dont fit with their paradigm.

                Those un recognized findings include the fact that man made nuclear fallout causes systemic morbidity. This is in stark contrast to the mainstream idea that some are affected and others are not, a stochastic all or nothing effect. They go so far as to narrow the effects to certain cancers within certain time windows. Nothing could be more unscientific!

                "Although the animals tested [with low level radiation] in these studies DID NOT SHOW induced CLINICAL diseases,
                biological effects were observed on various systems: impairments in the cardiovascular
                system such as an increase of CK and CK-MG, markers of possible heart muscle damage;
                decrease of mean blood pressure and disappearance of its circadian rhythm (Guéguen
                2008); in the Central Nervous System: EEG modifications, perturbations of the sleep-wake
                cycle, regional 137Cs accumulation in the brain stem ; molecular
                modifications of pro- and anti-inflammatory cytokines and NO-ergic pathway in the brain,
                indicators of a neuro-inflammatory response, particularly in the hippocampus ; and in various metabolic systems: alteration of vitamine D metabolism, associated
                with a dysregulation of mineral homeostasis ; alteration of testicular and
                adrenal steroidogenesis.


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              • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

                I love it when someone brings up the banana comparison. It opens the door for communication regarding uptake. Nuclear metals/isotopes mimic the pathways for potassium, calcium, iron, etc… Biological systems mistake them for natural elements necessary for life. The effects are not the same and that is easily proven! The table of elements is scientific proof of that! What "scientist" would ever say that any of those were of equal comparison? Everything soaks up nuclear contamination- just like vitamins, minerals and sunshine! But the effect is not life- but death! This gives rise to our need to stop contaminating our air, food, water and land with it!

                And who knows, perhaps the special properties of potassium allow easier uptake of imposter nuclides with exaggerated effects.

                Don't be suckered into the comparison argument. There is no comparison with the exception of pathway. The biological system not recognizing the difference and unable to eliminate it before damage, if ever- is the nuclear problem, not the nuclear solution.

                If a nukie tried that argument, I would look at him like he was crazy and ask why he thought potassium belonged under plutonium or cesium137 on the table of elements and if we should just chuck the table and use a napkin with bar room scribbles, instead.


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                • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

                  and if you REALLY want to go there, does the human biological system isolate and separate K40 from the potassium element at any time? NO? It's a constant? (Guessing) I would say that until nukes can wrap their dirty little imposters in special little case like potassium, they shouldn't be playing with fire or dressing as wolves in sheeps clothing.


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                  • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                    Hillbilly…of course if you were arguing with a Cullen face to face, he would tell you the amount of cesium that replaced your potassium is a vanishingly small amount and percentage (true), and that the chemical toxicity is not much different than table salt (true) and that the radiation is less than that given by potassium in all but ground zero victims (true). So now you would have to steady your gaze upon him and up your game… nearly half the birds and butterflies around Fukushima have VISIBLE deformation…the monkeys have small heads and retardation. Clearly, despite his truthful but limited understanding of nuclear, fallout is not like a banana. Argue it on epidemiology alone, or Unravel the localized bioaccumulation with ideas like ion exchange, even at the cellular size level. Dismantle the ion track stochastic DNA hit theory and supplant it with secondary effects mediated by entire biophysical system cascades, a prime suspect being the glutamine pathway…and on to inflammation and free radical production. Dont let him avert his gaze…keep him locked in your grip of knowledge and dont let him wiggle out of it. He will bring up the amount of radioactivity normal to the ocean…ask him to produce one study showing its detrimental effect, then suffer him to admit that his facts are not facts but suppositions only, extrapolated from a failed ICRP dose model based largely on Bomb victims…


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                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      personally I would shake his hand with a buzzer, and shoot him from my lapel flower squirt gun, then tape a sign that says egotistical fool on his back in a way he wont notice…


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                    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

                      I would say his focus on cesium was a smoke screen for all of the other elements he won't address and for you, I would say that you need to realize they do know that they are lying. They are not naïve and you would benefit to have faith in that fact so as not to waste time questioning their motive.


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                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      its possible the hundreds of other fission products all together, or mainly one of them, like plutonium, MIGHT be the greater cause of the pacific genocide. But its likely that cesium IS the major player, with strontium and a few others coming up. Certainly Iodine was the big whammy, the short half life one gone but its effects continue on.

                      I have read papers from both Cullen and Buesseler. Buesseler knows for example that the radioactivity the sediment is many times higher than the water, and in respects like that, he is white washing by selective reporting. Possibly to the point of creating the public assisted monitor program which reeks of a false campaign. Yet, Im inclined to think he really believes in the standard science and its conclusions. Cullens papers also show that there is a lot more known by science, especially regarding monitoring but here I think we have an egotist who also believes in the ICRP model and its results. They may have been part of the crack team that was assembled at Livermore in the first days of Fukushima. I may know someone also, but they are sworn to secrecy. What I do know is that professional ALSO believes in mainstream science, absolutely, resolutely. I would say to you…dont underestimate the power of mainstream science teaching and indoctrination.


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                    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

                      See any concern from your appointed "experts"? Any concern for the state of the Pacific? Dig deep and you find that they have paved the way for the military and nuclear industry (amongst others) to poison our waters and avoid public outrage or sanctions. Corporate lackeys. A scientist true to their science would be outraged and motivated to shed light on the science regarding what has and is taking place in our waters. Just because they say they are experts in the chemical make-up of the oceans and the effects nuclear fallout and waste (amongst other things) has on them, is in no way indicative of the current state of the oceans. Purposeful omissions galore. Instead, they dumb the masses, make claims of swimming and consumption safety and ask that you disregard anyone questioning the facts or having concern for the consequences of nuclear fallout. Ongoing nuclear fallout, no less. Oceanographers, indeed.


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                    • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                      Hillbilly I agree
                      " A scientist true to their science would be outraged and motivated to shed light on the science regarding what has and is taking place in our waters."

                      both Buesseler and Cullen and their institutes have conflict of interest and display no concern for the ocean.

                      Farth, you can quote this "I am become death, the destroyer of worlds"


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              • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

                "Yet, Im inclined to think he really believes in the standard science and its conclusions"

                See, I've seen you say that dozens of times. There is no ignorance nor good intent. It's a scam. We didn't designate them the experts. By their own admission, no one else stepped up to the plate, so they decided to lambast the airwaves as a favor "for friends and family". A very expensive favor, I might add. Leaves room for no accountability. One only need look at the funding entities.
                Omission is intent. It is very clear the focus is on brainwashing the public.
                Don't buy into the scam.
                Don't play into their hands arguing what is right about the presented facts. Don't assume they are the experts, as they would like everyone to believe. …Experts at conspiring to dilute Fukushima, perhaps.
                Argue what is wrong- what hasn't been presented and why. Question the funding, the omissions and the motive. Otherwise, it's a waste of time and has clouded the airwaves instead of highlighting the atrocities and the real impact of nuclear and Fukushima.


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                • CodeShutdown CodeShutdown

                  Hillbilly, again I agree with this
                  " Question the funding, the omissions and the motive. Otherwise, it's a waste of time and has clouded the airwaves instead of highlighting the atrocities and the real impact of nuclear and Fukushima."

                  but I dont agree with this
                  " There is no ignorance"
                  The grip of the standard dose model is tight. If you talk to any student, any professional anywhere, they believe it. Why would Cullen and Buesseler be the enlightened ones that studied enough to see through the failure of nuclear health physics?

                  There is another factor…emotions rule beliefs. How many professionals has Busby been up against who cant allow his data into their brains because it means their whole career was wrong and an ethical crime? Cullen knows enough…so many factoids,..that he can argue for the mainstream science forever….sort of a high level Anne if you will. Those people…experts everywhere…are pinning the ocean destruction on global warming, cycles and sometimes chemical pollutants. And the problem is, there are those influences….fertilizer creating hypoxic zones, mercury and much more.

                  Ive read their pre FUkushima papers. They use standard scientific dosimetry…


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  • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

    And, please stop giving Anne shit, she's metal as fuck.


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  • Sol Man

    https://www.gofundme.com/christinaconsolo?viewupdates=1&rcid=r01-149593968204-3cc34c6f35034758

    A few lines from the link: "Ehlers Danlos Syndrome, EDS- a genetic condition that means that the glue that holds the body together is faulty and too weak causing widespread pain, daily dislocations, cardiac abnormalities and multiple other illnesses… I started to lose consciousness regularly, vomit blood, experience extreme pain, multi organ involvement, chest pain, weakness in my limbs. In March, 2017, I was told that Crainocervical Instability was to blame for these problems. CCI means the ligaments ligaments in my neck are too stretched and weakened to support my head. This is causing my spine to squash my brain stem under the weight of my skull. My cervical discs are damaged and prolapsing. I feel the relentless agony of every minute of the day in addition to the nerve damage…"

    The question is this: does the radiation that attacks soft tissues have anything to do with this hellish condition?

    If it does this information would bode badly for all life.

    What do you think?


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  • Max Sievert Max Sievert

    Invasion from ‘Borg of the ocean’ baffles scientists
    Bizarre sea creature proliferating off Southeast coast
    http://juneauempire.com/news/2017-06-21/invasion-borg-ocean-baffles-scientists


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  • PlowboyGrownUp

    'this could be fake news' "CIA Agent Confesses On Deathbed: ‘We Blew Up WTC7 On 9/11’" http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/47440.htm


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  • razzz razzz

    The arrogance of the entrenched deep state is beyond words.

    'DNC honors murdered staffer Seth Rich with memorial bike rack outside of headquarters'
    http://www.fox5dc.com/news/211991353-story

    Then the latest 'could be' DNC related victim is worried about his soon to expire life insurance policy paying out. So is found with a bad over his head and a suicide not claiming it was only a suicide. Problem is, most life insurance does not pay out in the event of a suicide.

    'EXCLUSIVE: Doubt Surfaces About ‘Suicide’ Claim of Clinton Investigator'

    "…Smith, 81, had a long history of investigating the Clintons. He reportedly had a hand in exposing then Gov. Bill Clinton’s “Troopergate” scandal in which the future president used state troopers to guard him while he was having sex with various women.

    Smith was behind an unsuccessful 2016 effort to enter the “dark Internet” to uncover Clinton’s deleted emails…"
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/14/exclusive-doubt-surfaces-about-suicide-claim-of-clinton-investigator/

    Since Trump is an outsider (first person to be president that never held a political office or was never in the military (besides not being a lawyer or banker) just about everyone in DC wants him gone since controlling him via blackmail does not seem possible after already being vetted as a public figure for decades already.

    So they have to invent plausible scenarios to take him down and/or anyone associated with him.


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    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      So true, and but then people with money always seem to have very long tails carrying around plenty of skeletons along with it.

      Trump I am afraid will be no different and there are plenty of pictures of him chumming up to the Clintons.

      Birds of a feather normally flock together.. is the old saying.

      You thought it was by accident you were only given two choices?

      4+ trillion per year and 16+trillion in 4 years is a great deal of power and influence around the world and neither party will give this power up willingly.

      Sometimes they have to share..but it is always their power turn once again.. at some point.

      The game is rigged and always has been. :(


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  • PlowboyGrownUp

    I thought this was 'old news' " The “decision has already been made” to release radioactive material from the Fukushima plant into the ocean, according to its owners. Fishermen have reacted with fury to the decision, claiming it will devastate their already struggling industry.

    Under the plan the radioactive material tritium, which is being used to cool reactors whose cooling systems were damaged in the 2011 tsunami, will be released into the Pacific Ocean." https://www.rt.com/news/396358-fukushimas-radioactive-water-released-ocean/


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    • unincredulous unincredulous

      " the radioactive material tritium, which is being used to cool reactors "

      yeah, right. Tritium cools reactors. Uh huh. Hope that's a translation error, and not a deliberate plan to deceive us.

      "Water is used to cool the reactor — H20. Tritium (/ˈtrɪtiəm/ or /ˈtrɪʃiəm/; symbol T or 3H , also known as hydrogen-3) is a radioactive isotope of hydrogen. The nucleus of tritium (sometimes called a triton) contains one proton and two neutrons, whereas the nucleus of protium (by far the most abundant hydrogen isotope) contains one proton and no neutrons. Naturally occurring tritium is extremely rare on Earth, where trace amounts are formed by the interaction of the atmosphere with cosmic rays. It can be produced by irradiating lithium metal or lithium bearing ceramic pebbles in a nuclear reactor. Tritium is used as a radioactive tracer, in radioluminescent light sources for watches and instruments, and, along with deuterium, as a fuel for nuclear fusion reactions with applications in energy generation and weapons. The name of this isotope is derived from Greek τρίτος (trítos), meaning 'third'."

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritium

      It's radioactive shit that will be radioactive for decades. https://books.google.com/books?id=f_HC_MKnz-sC&printsec=frontcover&dq=The+Medical+Basis+for+Radiation-Accident+Preparedness&hl=en&ei=BRCFTcTUC4fWtQOXjqT3AQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

      It doesn't come in 50 gallon drums…


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      • unincredulous unincredulous

        50 gallon drums marked "reactor cooler" biodegradable. It's hazmat


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      • unincredulous unincredulous

        Misplaced quotation marks in post

        Water is used to cool the reactor — H20. (me, not Wikipedia)

        "Tritium (/ˈtrɪtiəm/ or /ˈtrɪʃiəm/; symbol T or 3H , also known as hydrogen-3) is a radioactive isotope of hydrogen. The nucleus of tritium (sometimes called a triton) contains one proton and two neutrons, whereas the nucleus of protium (by far the most abundant hydrogen isotope) contains one proton and no neutrons. Naturally occurring tritium is extremely rare on Earth, where trace amounts are formed by the interaction of the atmosphere with cosmic rays. It can be produced by irradiating lithium metal or lithium bearing ceramic pebbles in a nuclear reactor. Tritium is used as a radioactive tracer, in radioluminescent light sources for watches and instruments, and, along with deuterium, as a fuel for nuclear fusion reactions with applications in energy generation and weapons. The name of this isotope is derived from Greek τρίτος (trítos), meaning 'third'."

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tritium


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  • PlowboyGrownUp

    Computer starting to act up and the first ad above is about ransomeware.


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  • irhologram

    Plowboy
    Re: your fake news story. From comments:

    Fitzhenrymac126p · 1 hour ago
    Sorry folks, you've been had.

    It's a direct rip off by Baxter Dimitri of his earlier Mi5 killed Princess Diana article.

    Here's the original http://yournewswire.com/mi5-agent-killed-princess

    Here's the analysis
    http://www.snopes.com/retired-mi5-agent-confesses

    And hears another one of his:
    http://yournewswire.com/cia-pilot-swears-oath-pla

    and its credibility is destroyed
    http://science.howstuffworks.com/space/aliens-ufo

    Baxter Dimitri, who writes this stuff works for Your News Wire. See link below for info on them. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/YourNewsWire

    Whats interesting, too, is Howard saying las if in an asie, off-hand like a throw away statement…that his participation was before the CIA wasn't taking its orders from the top. Sub-tle.


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  • Jebus Jebus

    We are presenting here a transcription of an NHK TV documentary (note1) on insoluble radioactive particles found in Fukushima and in the Tokyo metropolitan region. Since it is quite heavy with images, it will be uploaded in 3 parts.

    These particles contain cesium, which has the property to dissolve in water. However, in the case of these particles, the cesium was taken into glass-like particles during the Fukushima Daiichi NPP accident before it was blown away by the explosion. These particles do not dissolve in water, and as a consequence the cesium will remain longer both in the environment and in the human body, which will modify the impact of radioactive materials on the environment and on health.

    https://fukushima311voices.wordpress.com/2017/07/14/insoluble-radioactive-particles-part-1/


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  • Jebus Jebus

    The PNAS study is just the latest in a series of studies to warn of a sixth mass extinction event. Unlike its predecessors, it looked not just at the rate at which species are being wiped out, but also the dramatic decline in the range and populations of species that are still with us.

    It came to the sobering conclusion that 50 percent of individual animals "that once shared Earth with us are already gone."

    Williams points to some alarming statistics. Humans now appropriate between 25 and 38 percent of the planet's primary energy production. And the total carbon mass of human beings and our domestic animals is now 35 times that of all other land mammals put together.

    http://www.dw.com/en/are-we-really-heading-for-an-anthropocene-apocalypse/a-39686977


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  • Jebus Jebus

    Anyone can choose to ignore the ground at their feet.

    No one can ignore the consequences…


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  • unincredulous unincredulous

    Does TEPCO have this data in English? They are supposed to be so eloquently communicating with the world.

    Can't they put each data point on a friggin graph so we can at least get a clue as to what is going on.

    http://www.tepco.co.jp/nu/fukushima-np/f1/smp/2017/images3/2tb-east_17071401-j.pdf

    Maybe the IAEA would be so kind as to make such a database for us without copyright, in the name of transparency. HA ha. Ha. Hoo. Good one right?

    the relationship between the nuclear industry and the rugulators (no typo, more like rug burns) explained https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzTqU2BVf10


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  • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

    Bad news. Geological. Soon.


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  • unincredulous unincredulous

    The Austin Powers of Japanese science guys.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15KuDea5ayw

    3:24 Where water bearing planets come from? No? seriously, maybe something worth knowing here but …


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  • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

    Did someone mention this? Because I have no idea why this page is opened. Maybe it was the DHT thing. If you did post this, please remind me.

    http://ascopubs.org/doi/abs/10.1200/JCO.2017.35.15_suppl.4550


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  • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

    Is the mid-north Atlantic warming?

    https://garryrogers.com/2017/07/14/u-s-temperature-2017/

    I see something like this:

    http://imgur.com/a/XIUuu

    Excuse the crude implication.


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    This guy is a pig!

    He property is only valued at around 4.5 million based on taxes paid and he is asking 75 million?

    Can't be a bigger pig! :( Greed will be the downfall of this country..won't be long now.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4698256/Buy-Lake-Tahoe-s-expensive-home-75m.html


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  • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

    "MELOX MOX fuel fabrication plant, Marcoule (Gard, France)
    INB No. 151
    Information about Marcoule plant [external link] (Nuclear Safety Authority – ASN, in French)

    Violation of criticality rules at MELOX MOX fuel plant
    On June 25, 2017, the amount of plutonium found in a waste container showed a "significant exceedance" of the permitted limit. (ASN July 13, 2017) "

    http://www.wise-uranium.org/epfr.html#MELOXMARC

    May also want to check the Alerts page at wise-uranium.org 4 and 7 days left to comment on the EPA and ICRP stuff, respectively.


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  • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

    I'm kinda getting angry. Anybody notice that article about teen vogue at BIN? I don't wanna link it, because…


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  • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

    Yet again, a bunch of new articles, some climate change and nuke related over at https://nuclear-news.net/


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    • unincredulous unincredulous

      "'Releasing [tritium] into the sea will create a new wave of unfounded rumours, making all our efforts for naught', Kanji Tachiya, head of a local fishing cooperative, told Kyodo News."

      UNFOUNDED????????

      http://www.dictionary.com/browse/unfounded : "without foundation; not based on fact, realistic considerations, or the like: unfounded suspicions.

      This is interesting, this word "unfounded" break it down into
      "un" and "founded" look up "founded" and see that it is not a word. Only "found" is a word

      https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/found
      "[ T always + adv/prep ] to base a belief, claim, idea, etc. on something:
      This case was founded on insufficient evidence."

      But try to look up "founded"

      If you think that makes sense, trying looking up the word "losted"

      These Japanese fisherman are losted.


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  • rogerthat

    at random from the comments lol:

    Mtnrunnr nmewn Jul 14, 2017 8:16 PM
    well I mean where the fuck else are they gonna put it. I've got news for ya, they've probably already dumped 50x that much shit into the ocean from there anyway. disgusting.


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  • rogerthat

    and another:

    JethroBodien solidtare Jul 14, 2017 8:45 PM
    To stay informed frequent this site

    http://enenews.com/


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  • rogerthat

    and another:

    Not Too Important Mtnrunnr Jul 14, 2017 10:03 PM
    Whatever they use this water for, let's call it X. So they're going to dump 700,000+ tons of highly radioactive water into the Pacific Ocean. The IAEA gave Japan permission to do this years ago, so the world governments have already braced for this decision.

    So, after they dump all this water, they still have to cool X, so that water which used to be stored will now be sent straight into the Pacific. The 700,000+ tons has been accumulated over 6 years and 4 months, or 9,200 tons per month since 3/11/11. At 30 days per month, that's 306.66 tons per day (no, those trips are not lost on me, they pop up a lot when calculating Fukushima math).

    So, in addition to the 300+ tons of highly radioactive water already flowing straight into the Pacific that isn't captured (non-Tepco estimates are from 400-800 tons per day), they're now going to add 300+ tons per day, bringing the daily discharge into the Pacific Ocean of 600+ tons of highly radioactive water per day (or 700 to 1,100+ tons per day, per non-Tepco sources). Highly radioactive water that will flow into the Pacific Ocean for a billion years.

    After almost 6 1/2 years, after over 95% of the sealife in the Pacific has died off, the radiation is now in the rain cycles, flooding North America, Japan and China something horrible at the moment with radioactive rain water, growing in intensity daily, and doing so for billions of years. …


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  • rogerthat

    stratfor: critical faculty required imho:

    https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/six-years-after-fukushima-japan-tries-quell-its-energy-angst

    Forecast Highlights
    Japan will not abandon nuclear energy entirely, and its reactors are slowly restarting. But it will not return to the level it saw before the Fukushima disaster anytime soon, if ever.

    Japan's long-standing quest for energy independence will be largely unrealized in the medium term.
    The trajectory of the country's renewable energy sources will be a critical source of uncertainty that bears watching in the long run.

    More than six years after the disaster at the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear plant, Japan is apparently on its way to restoring nuclear energy as one of its biggest sources of electric power.

    Five nuclear reactors in the country have already been restarted, and a June court ruling cleared the way for two more to open. But 43 of Japan's 54 original reactors are still offline.

    Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, for his part, has promoted a policy of restarts, but he is politically weaker now than at any time since his 2012 return to power.

    Therefore, it's worth assessing just how far Japan's nuclear revival can go, and how it and other factors, such as the rise of renewable energy, may affect Japan's longtime desire for energy independence. …


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  • rogerthat

    lol, this is the reuters version of reality. no wonder the msm is seen as a joke:

    http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/tepco-to-push-for-decision-on-tainted-water-in-fukushima

    July 15:

    Tepco to push for decision on tainted water in Fukushima

    Debate on release of water into ocean has dragged on for years since 2011 earthquake

    TOKYO • The owner of the wrecked Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant in Japan will push to resolve the debate over the release of contaminated water from the site, its new chairman said on Thursday.

    The debate has dragged on for years since a devastating 2011 quake that led to a nuclear disaster.

    Tokyo Electric Power Company (Tepco) will also speed up a final decision on the future of a nearby plant, Fukushima Daini, which suffered only minor damage, chairman Takashi Kawamura said in an interview with foreign media.

    "I'm very sorry that Tepco has been prolonging making a decision," said the 77-year-old, a former chairman of conglomerate Hitachi. "Just like (for) tritium, we will aim for an earliest possible conclusion." …


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    • rogerthat

      Mr Kawamura, who previously sat on a government panel looking into the Fukushima cleanup, said he believed Japan needed to keep operating nuclear power plants for future generations and as part of national security.

      The nationalisation of nuclear power plants was a matter that could be discussed in the future as national policies had a role in the operations of nuclear power, he added, but did not elaborate.

      Tepco wants to release the tritium-laced water currently stored in hundreds of tanks at Fukushima into the ocean – a common practice at normally operating nuclear plants – but the firm is struggling to win approval from local fisherman.

      Missteps and leaks have dogged the efforts to contain water, slowing down the decades-long decommissioning process and causing public alarm, while experts have raised concerns that tank failures could lead to an accidental release.

      "We could have decided much earlier, and that is Tepco's responsibility," said Mr Kawamura, adding that he would push a government task force overseeing the cleanup to give a clear timetable on when a decision could be made on the tritium-laced water.

      Tepco is also under pressure from the central and local governments to decommission all four reactors at Fukushima Daini, 10km to the south of the wrecked plant.

      "One of the sticking points is that it's taking time for an economic check of all plants," Mr Kawamura said, referring to studies on whether the plants …


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    meanwhile, back in the jungle:

    https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=133004514

    Fishermen express fury as Fukushima plant set to release radioactive material into ocean

    By Julian Ryall, Tokyo
    14 July 2017

    Local residents and environmental groups have condemned a plan to release radioactive tritium from the crippled Fukushima nuclear plant into the Pacific Ocean.

    Officials of Tokyo Electric Power Co., the operator of the plant, say tritium poses little risk to human health and is quickly diluted by the ocean.

    In an interview with local media, Takashi Kawamura, chairman of TEPCO, said: "The decision has already been made." He added, however, that the utility is waiting for approval from the Japanese government before going ahead with the plan and is seeking the understanding of local residents.

    The tritium is building up in water that has been used to cool three reactors that suffered fuel melt-downs after cooling equipment was destroyed in the magnitude 9 earthquake and tsunami that struck north-east Japan in March 2011.

    Around 770,000 tons of highly radioactive water is being stored in 580 tanks at the site. Many of the contaminants can be filtered out, but the technology does not presently exist to remove tritium from water.

    "This accident happened more than six years ago and the …


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      authorities should have been able to devise a way to remove the tritium instead of simply announcing that they are going to dump it into the ocean", said Aileen Mioko-Smith, an anti-nuclear campaigner with Kyoto-based Green Action Japan.

      "They say that it will be safe because the ocean is large so it will be diluted, but that sets a precedent that can be copied, essentially permitting anyone to dump nuclear waste into our seas", she told The Telegraph.

      Fishermen who operate in waters off the plant say any release of radioactive material will devastate an industry that is still struggling to recover from the initial nuclear disaster.

      "Releasing [tritium] into the sea will create a new wave of unfounded rumours, making all our efforts for naught", Kanji Tachiya, head of a local fishing cooperative, told Kyodo News.

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/07/14/fishermen-express-fury-fukushima-plant-set-release-radioactive/


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      • unincredulous unincredulous

        I would like to see an independent analyses of the water, not just take their word for it that there is "only" tritium in it, and that all other contaminants are removed.

        That seems extremely unlikely.

        What are they doing with the "filters" that supposedly removed all that contamination "except tritium"
        I guess they could dump the filters in the ocean…


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    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

      "the technology does not presently exist to remove tritium from water."
      Which is why they say this:
      "Officials of Tokyo Electric Power Co., the operator of the plant, say tritium poses little risk to human health and is quickly diluted by the ocean."
      Not because it doesn't exist, or poses no threat. According to this, tritium removal technology DOES exist, but money, monopolies and politics prevent TEPCO/GEH from applying their better judgement and removing the tritium.

      http://www.artaqua.co/about-company-philosophy-and-founder/

      …technology that can filter heavy metals, arsenics, nitrates, resistant bacteria and radioactive substances such as Caesium 134, Iodium and Tritium out of water. The technology won the gold medal at EUREKA

      …However, the Japanese officials friendly rejected the offer pointing out that Toshiba had developed a filter that could seperate nuclear particles as well which 2 years later has been found not to be very effective.

      … Niemeyer, who shot a documentary film in Japan “Hibakusha: from Hiro- to Fukushima”, asked the Japanese bureaucrats and government ministers why one used sea water from the Pacific which because of the mineral concentration posed an even bigger problem carrying more radioactivity than sweetwater would, the answer was that it was cheaper. 400 tons of the cooling water trickles into the groundwater near the reactor and finds it’s way into the Pacific Ocean causing higher bq/l levels in Hawaii and California…


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    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

      There are discharge limits for tritium.

      If Tepco dumps it, there should consequences, penalties and legal action. Environmental consequence aside.

      I predict the nuke industry (ie regulators) will allow for this atrocity, giving exception to the rule, citing special circumstance, when in fact, it is favoritism. The laws and allowable releases were put into place for a reason. "Financial burden" is no excuse.

      Great technical document, here:
      http://www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/publications/PDF/TRS421_web.pdf


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      • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

        Methods for removing tritium from liquid waste provide an alternative to the control of tritium emissions and personnel exposure. The most commonly practised application of tritium removal from liquids is the detritiation of heavy water. In this application, the detritiation and recycling of the heavy water is much more economic than the production of new heavy water. A number of techniques have been developed, primarily for tritium removal or the detritiation of heavy water (for HWRs). These techniques include electrolysis and catalytic exchange and fractional distillation. Tritium removal from light water, however, requires larger stripping and recovery factors than for heavy water upgrade. To be capable of obtaining the required high recovery, a feasible tritium removal process will require a high isotopic separation factor. The hydrogen–water chemical exchange process has the required high isotopic separation factor and is suited to a water feed. In addition, the technical feasibility of hydrogen isotopic enrichment through the exchange between hydrogen and water is established. Previous IAEA reports [23, 54] have described the state of tritium technologies at the time of their publication (1981 and 1984, respectively), whether speculative, in development or in use. Table 28 provides a summary of these technologies and their current status.


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        • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

          It is important to store tritiated waste in leaktight containers, preferably in stainless steel containers having an endurance life of about 100 years, to allow the tritium activity to decay to an insignificant level. A carbon steel container with a typical endurance life of 35 years is not recommended for storing tritiated waste, since the endurance life is not long enough. The immobilization methods discussed in Section 7.2 can also be used for the long term storage of tritium. However, these methods have the potential for release of tritium and the risks associated with the methods need to be investigated.

          When released to the environment these radioisotopes are distributed globally, owing to their long half-lives and residence times in the atmosphere and hydrosphere. Since both 14C and tritium are mobile in the environment, it is important to control their release from nuclear facilities and waste management sites by means of appropriate operational procedures and waste management strategies and practices. In assessing the impact of 14C and tritium releases, the consequences of exposures of an individual in the immediate vicinity outside the exclusion boundary area, and of the public at large, should be considered. Appropriate effluent and environmental monitoring programmes (e.g. for 14C and tritium) are therefore required for each nuclear facility to ensure the protection of the public and the environment from radioactive discharges.


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          • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

            Discharge limits for radioisotopes are established in most countries in accordance with the recommendations of the ICRP and by taking into account other country or site specific factors and requirements. These limits differ from one site to another, depending on assumptions on the nature of the effluent and on the environment into which the discharges are made. In an authorization, such as a licence for a nuclear facility, in most cases tritium discharge limits are established independently of other emission limits, such as for halogens, particulates and beta–gamma and alpha emitters, for both gaseous and liquid effluents.


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      • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

        "If Tepco dumps it, there should consequences, penalties and legal action. Environmental consequence aside."

        I agree, there should be, and shouldn't just include Tepco, and it shouldn't be aimed at the Japanese public, generally speaking.


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        • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

          Penalties? Try jail for all those involved!


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          • AirSepTech AirSepTech

            I was fined/threatened 10yrs for spilling coolant(antifreeze is used in boilers).

            $10,000 because I did not report an 'out of containment event', my report was on just the contained event.

            The only amount 'out' was on rubber boots, on the feet of the cleanup crew. total spill was about 25-30 gal, properly handled. The footprints were washed down. System capacity was 2000+ gal.

            I volunteered all of the pics, docs, info that convicted me.
            I thought I might lose my job.

            Nope, my company was so pissed off at the EPA, they have spent millions on lawyers&lobbists, for years fighting every case, tooth and nail. I do not exactly feel it is good, but the EPA has affected me in other bullshit ways. All of us.
            They are not the 'fixall.org' that people believe.

            Funny, this happened on a .gov site(NASA), that is likely a 'superfund' site, been that way well before I was born.

            :lol:

            There will be no punishment for the wicked, they own it all.


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            • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

              Hmmm…well, I guess I can justify being supremely evil then.


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              • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                Can't imagine it will hurt a thing.
                LOTS of wicked competition out there.

                I was raised to be polite.
                New format..
                Shoot back.


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                • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

                  Yeah, I was sort of raised with the…uhm, societal fake nicety bullshit. Which, I dunno, some people call "manners" and "politeness" and well, I don't believe in it.


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                • PlowboyGrownUp

                  Hey AirSep, I think it is either or both ethylene glycol or propylene glycol in salad dressings and such. Antifreeze. A small amount will kill a dog.
                  I'm sure you know all that.


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                  • AirSepTech AirSepTech

                    Yep. Ethylene is the true/longtime antifreeze.
                    not good for mammals, fish, nothing. Machines+

                    Propylene glycol is in everything, soda pop, food, all kinds of liquids(makes stuff slippery), inhalers, e-cigs, huge list. Gets confusing, it is used in RV waterlines for sub freezing storage, and some was used as 'green' automotive AF(Sierra?).
                    Non-toxic—for now anyway. haha

                    I'm ok with most law, application and management is where it goes south.

                    EPA is messing with 10's of 1000's of small land/water rights folks. If we little folks lose those rights, all little folks will be done. They need to manage the 'big' guys better, not be controlled by them. The little guys have no chance of survival without that.

                    Keep them posts coming man, you're a great asset to the effort.

                    Some Hollies-

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl5vi9ir49g


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          • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

            Why jail when you can recycle them?


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        • razzz razzz

          TEPCO dump, pay the fines, raise electric prices for ratepayers to makeup the shortfall.


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  • rogerthat

    and, for anyone who thinks these nincompoops have their finger on the pulse:

    https://www.iaea.org/


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  • rogerthat

    this is worth the trouble for the comments:

    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2017/07/14/national/science-health/tepco-says-decision-already-made-release-radioactive-low-toxic-tritium-sea-fishermen-irate/#.WWoEXdOGNsO

    one that i like:

    Leonard Nuda Waya Siebert • 20 hours ago

    I can only assure you that "Tritium" is not the only isotope left in that water they are releasing. I know the filtration system they are employing and it was ineffective in 1992; in fact unviable.

    It was signed off on because there was no better solution at the time; still isn't and yet they claim its "safe". Another nuclear lie like "Decontamination".

    If decontamination were real? Three Mile Island and Hanford would be golf courses for the wealthy elite. That will NEVER happen…

    Oh and for those critics of my statement that whine: "They have to do something!" Perhaps they need to try some honesty about the actual severity of this "planet killer".


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  • Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar Dr. Anne Lee Tomlinson Maziar

    Rand Paul on Obamacare-lite Bill: It’s a Bailout for Insurance Companies
    Libertarian outrage will likely spark resurgence of Tea Party
    07/14/17
    http://observer.com/2017/07/rand-paul-republican-health-care-bill/

    Rand Paul: Crony capitalism isn't a right, so why does Senate healthcare bill give insurance companies the right to a bailout?
    by Sen. Rand Paul |Jul 13, 2017
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rand-paul-crony-capitalism-isnt-a-right-so-why-does-senate-healthcare-bill-give-insurance-companies-the-right-to-a-bailout/article/2628572


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    • AirSepTech AirSepTech

      'Libertarian outrage will likely spark resurgence of Tea Party'

      Good, maybe someone can scrounge up a $2.99 calculator.

      Maybe they can find the problem, and the fix.

      It's a mousetrap, what to do? Tell the investors, employees, admins, on and on, even the dimwit public, the INSURANCE COMPANIES 'are' the problem? They drive multiple layers of added cost, and support multiple layers of useless non-productive consumption.

      But, it provides profit. Can't do anything without profit.

      Fail. World will fail on the 'profit' motive.


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    • HillbillyHoundDog HillbillyHoundDog

      The medical industry, by and large, does not address the current state of Fukushima, nuclear contamination and exposure, inhalations, ingestions, or the negative health effects on the population. (Including the ongoing "x-ray" of all living (and non-living) things.) The medical industry, heavily guarded by nuclear and pharmaceutical interests, along with the FDA, outlaws effective non- side-effect laden "cures", causes and medicines. Profit is the guiding principle. Enlisting the public to banter about healthcare law and politics does nothing to address the real issues of corruption, profit, greed and shockingly, health.

      It is also Off-Topic. Please refrain.


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  • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

    I was considering an interesting dilemma earlier, it was basically went something like this:

    "Nuclear catastrophes, but because you're an "influential person", some others offer and insist you seek shelter in a nuclear bunker, would you take up that offer?"

    Somehow, I struggle to be able to justify saying yes to that.


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  • SadieDog

    "So alarms went off after state environmental officials and the Tennessee Valley Authority revealed this week that high levels of arsenic and lead had been found in groundwater beneath the coal-fired Allen Fossil Plant in southwest Memphis. The toxins were detected in wells where pollution is monitored from ponds that hold coal ash – the dirty byproduct left from burning coal to generate electricity.
    One well had arsenic at levels more than 300 times the federal drinking-water standard. The monitoring wells run about 50 feet (15 meters) deep and are about a half-mile (.8 kilometer) from far deeper wells drilled by the TVA directly into the Memphis Sand aquifer. Next year, the TVA plans to pump 3.5 million gallons (13.2 million liters) of water out of the aquifer per day to cool a natural gas power plant that is replacing the aging Allen coal plant.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-4698330/Toxins-water-Tennessee-power-plant-causing-alarm.html#ixzz4mvLEsbV1
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  • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

    I don't understand why life has no meaning.


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  • Farthington MacMananus Farthington MacMananus

    I'm gonna start puking toxic acidic vitriol from now on. Enough is enough.


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