Record radiation level in underground water well near ocean at Fukushima — Tepco: “Rise in radiation readings is an obvious concern” — 1.4 billion Bq/m³ of strontium/beta emitters

Published: December 8th, 2013 at 4:13 pm ET
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TEPCO: Immediate release: GRADUAL RISE IN RADIATION READINGS AT WELL MAY BE LINKED TO IMPROVEMENTS IN GROUNDWATER CONTROL, Dec. 5, 2013 (emphasis added): [...] gradual rise in radiation readings at a test well on the site of Fukushima Daiichi NPS appears to be the result of successful efforts to pump groundwater and divert it from flowing into the ocean [...] Readings at the well site had generally been within the range of 400,000 to 800,000 bequerels per liter of gross beta (total amount of beta nuclides), but had begun rising in the end of October this year. Various efforts to control the flow of contaminated water toward the ocean had been begun on July 8 [...] On November 28th, the reading at well 1-16, located in this area near Units 1 and 2, rose to 1.1 million bq/l, and on December 2 the reading was 1.3 million bq/l. [...] no change has been observed in seawater radiation density readings, which TEPCO measures and announces every day [though levels have not decreased, as would be expected if flow was blocked]. [...] there is no increased risk to human health or the environment. However, engineers are [...] continuing to analyze the results to more precisely determine the cause of the increase. Lake H. Barrett [...] an advisor to TEPCO, said: “While the rise in radiation readings is an obvious concern that needs to be carefully monitored, in some respects it is an indication of the success of TEPCO’s concerted efforts to isolate contaminated water and prevent its flow into the sea. The situation warrants continuous monitoring and careful analysis, but there appears no increased level of risk to workers, the public, or the environment.”

The most recent results from December 5, 2013 showed gross beta at well 1-16 rising to 1.4 million Bq/L or 1.4 billion Bq/m³.

On December 6, 2013, new results showed that strontium-90 is a very high percentage of the overall gross beta measurement.

  • 1T-4: 7,500 of 9,500 Bq/L — 79%
  • 1T-5: 2,900 of 3,200 Bq/L — 91%
  • 2T-2: 740 of 830 Bq/L — 89%

Yet, testing for strontium-90 levels has been reduced from 2 per month to just 1 at locations near the sea. (Source: Tepco, pg. 6)

Published: December 8th, 2013 at 4:13 pm ET
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85 comments to Record radiation level in underground water well near ocean at Fukushima — Tepco: “Rise in radiation readings is an obvious concern” — 1.4 billion Bq/m³ of strontium/beta emitters

  • jec jec

    NO increased risk, Mr TEPCOman Barrett??? Guess it cant get much worse than 25 Sv/h? Or can it….


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  • name999 name999

    As we experience a nationwide freeze, I got to thinking about this whole "ice wall" approach to somehow fencing in, holding back, controlling toxic waste from Fukishima. I wonder about the materials, perhaps extreme hi-tech super coolants being dumped on this hellish heated place, even if the ice wall is never built. Does anyone know about the application of super coolant chemicals and if this could also be a factor in this abnormal freezing cold in the U.S? Or if the ice wall could be being built now?


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    • dosdos dosdos

      What we are getting is our turn dancing with the polar air mass. The polar air mass isn't centered on the north pole, rather it skirts around it in a nine month cycle. We don't notice it much in summer, though it does help make for mild summers. But when winter comes, it's pretty obvious where the polar air mass is visiting. Right now, it's mostly in Canada. Last year, Europe and Siberia got it. The good news is that it will swing east, and late winter in the US should be relatively mild. With a 12 month year and a 9 month cycle, it becomes pretty easy to predict where the hard winter will strike each year. This is our year for an early winter.


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    • fireguyjeff fireguyjeff

      name:
      First off, as a design engineer and having dealt with ground water,
      I am of the opinion that the ice wall idea is at best an idea reserved for comic books and poorly written sifi plots.

      The idea of trying to stop the flow of water that is leaking out of the the cracked/ruptured foundations in to the soil is just absurd.

      Even if the ice wall would work, the amount of electrical energy required to make it work would be very large (i.e. expensive).
      And then it has to be kept running for 24/7 for the next 100 years or more? And all that would do is stop it from going in tot he ocean. It does not deal with the accumulation of radioactive water generated by pumped fresh water in to the mess, the latter of which has to go some where.

      As for "extreme hi-tech super coolants", I have never heard of such.

      What is missed in a lot of the stories on Fuku is the amount of energy transfer that is needs to happen to keep the fuel cooled.
      It is a lot. And when there is not much water volume on the fuel (corium) then the water temperature gets very hot very fast, hence losing it's ability to cool the fuel.
      Think water spray bottle on a grease fire on a stove top.
      Good luck.
      If TEPCO had any sort of "extreme hi-tech super coolants" they would be blathering about them every day as a means to better pacify the general public about the problem.

      As for the "abnormal freezing" in the US, I contend it is not abnormal at all.


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    • Grampybone Grampybone

      There are no super cold chemicals that are being used to cool the molten core's that could effectively do anything but cause another nuclear fission. Nitrogen's enemy is Yttrium so take that off the table. Gotta get the Borax. Ahem Boron. Because it's have fat neutrons to block electron circulation outside fuel assemblies. Not a solution just a slow dam against an ever growing wall of water. When unable to contain the water used to cool spent fuel alone TEPCO has opted to just let the job sink into the sea than continue an eternity of Boron + water pumping. Eventually it won't matter because Boron and salts surrounding the air in the area will spread the high dose rate to critical areas of the facility.


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      • HoTaters HoTaters

        Grampybone, what will happen when Boron and salts surrounding the air in the area spread the high dose rate to critical areas of the facility?


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        • Grampybone Grampybone

          The melted cores are responsible for the concentration of radiation at the site. All Boron around the melted core is unknown and salt Bromine/halogen/xeno-iodide fission products are then going out of the top and bottom of the 3 buildings. Concentrating in density enough to have a steady pulse of radiation deadly to humans in 20 minutes. The carrier particles move to the closest molecular bond when outside of 3 tier neutron blocking containment. When outside, available bonds make concentration rapidly spiral out of control. Ocean salt carrying on air can provide a Yttrium Trinitrite Hexahydrate compound at room temperature as it passes the atmospheric plume at the plant. The smoke goes up as the cores go down.


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          • Grampybone Grampybone

            Eventually TEPCO won't be able to do any work at the site. Boron pumping is ultra expensive and has never been used to prevent a critical mass. Solution…stop pumping Boron because it may not even prevent a critical mass. If the containment is cracked and the Boron already leaked out, it is quite possible that areas of containment are carrying fission releases of heavy neutrino Boron that has captured a particle. When they looked inside the vessel, the particle activity was so intense the photon receptors in the camera burned.


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            • That may explain the rising iodine levels in towns sewage plants.. that and the underground coriums, which get no boron.


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            • HoTaters HoTaters

              I'll have to read your explanation again to understand, GrampyBone. Thanks for commenting.

              Just one other question, what is the process called when an element captures an extra election and becomes an isotope? (And is that actually the process of isotope creation? That's what I thought I'd read.)

              Great posts. Your info. is a bit technical for me, but it's good. It's challenging.


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  • Jebus Jebus

    What a propaganda piece.

    They shoved a wall of steel pilings and corrugated cofferdam sheets into the ground on the seaward side and call it good.
    What, maybe 20 feet into the soil at most.
    Corium water obey now.

    It's so sickening, (literally), that they can claim progress towards mitigating the effects towards humans with no realization of the effects on the very environment, species, and Ocean that support humans ability to have radionuclide free food, air, and water.
    And these are the best scientists and consultants that humans have to offer towards mitigating this disaster just because they hoodwinked everyone successfully at TMI.

    We are fucking doomed if this is the best that humanity has to offer up…


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  • 富岡_Blue_Heron 富岡_Blue_Heron

    NRC, Sept. 2013: 10 Bq/L [of cesium-137] is the World Health Organization drinking water standard. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) limit is 7.41 Bq/L.

    But according to Tepco they can't even detect cesium-137 until it is more than twice the EPA limit.

    http://radioactivity.nsr.go.jp/en/contents/8000/7588/24/Sea-monitoring(20131119).pdf

    Why is this, the Heron wonders. Presumably if the EPA can do it the monitoring geniuses at Bq & Co can


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  • ftlt

    These knobs will do or say anything for a buck…


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  • tsfw tsfw

    Rise in radiation linked to improvement haha of course now when they have to admit it's bad, it will actually be good. Mhhmm.


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    • moonshellblue moonshellblue

      I guess they think the increase is due to a lack of water which would dilute the readings and since there is less water the readings increase? I'm assuming that is what Lake B. is saying although I personally don't see this as advantageous but they always say try to turn negative info into positive. Ahh the magic wand of nuclear engineers makes my head ache & shake.


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  • tsfw tsfw

    It's just silly, I'm going to take this holiday season to find a way to laugh at the utter ridiculousness of it all.


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  • Daisy207

    I want to know who and how they are collecting those samples. I would not be allowed to come physically close to that well. I would also like to know what other components are present. Give us a full lab report.


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  • fonzie3b fonzie3b

    LA Times article on Hanford from Nov 29th. Some highlights.

    "A million gallons of sludge from about a third of the 177 underground tanks have leaked into the soil, and some of it has reached aquifers under the plateau.

    The Columbia River, the West's biggest waterway, is seven miles downhill from the waste and, under a worst-case scenario, could be hit by the plumes in as little as 50 years, according to the WA Department of Ecology…

    Over the last two years, technical problems on the project have multiplied. Concern has grown that explosive hydrogen gas could build up inside the treatment plant's pipes and tanks. Clumps of plutonium could form inside the plant's mixing tanks, some engineers now say, potentially causing a spontaneous nuclear reaction…

    The basic plan is to pump the waste into a pre-treatment plant, that would filter and chemically separate the waste into two streams of high- and low-level radioactivity. Then, two other plants would "vitrify," or glassify, the waste. One would produce highly radioactive glass destined for a future geological repository, and the other a lower radioactive glass that could be buried at Hanford.

    The Energy Department's inspector general reported, employee safety concerns had been discounted, and estimated that more than 1/3 of the plant's nuclear safety reviews, required on every pipe, valve and device, were never conducted.

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-hanford-nuclear-risks-20131130,0,5013027


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  • We Not They Finally

    Ah, the wonders of funny-math: The radiation readings on site go UP, but that must be GOOD because it means that they're keeping the contamination away from the ocean At the same time, the ocean readings have NOT decreased, but that's also GOOD because there is "no increased risk to health."

    Well, that sounds nicely covered… with crap.


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    • HoTaters HoTaters

      Kind of like creative accounting, yes?


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    • Yup. Sort of like using dog poop for kitty litter.


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    • This is about the LARGEST PILE OF DOG CR#)#!

      How is something getting WORSE, getting BETTER?

      They are claiming CREDIT and SUCCESS for being FAILURES!

      In this upside down, backwards world of right is wrong and truth is lies and whistleblowers are terrorists, the criminals and genocidal maniacs get no bid contracts, bonuses and stock options, plus 30 million dollar a year salaries.

      THINGS R GTN WORSE… down there at the farm.. The horse doo doo is piling up in the stalls, it is getting REALLY DEEP now.

      NO one is even bothering to try shoveling it out.

      Now they are saying the horses LOVE the doo doo and are increasing in health because they are up to their bellies in it, so they no longer have to exert any effort to stand… wow, what balls!


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  • Alpha1

    I really do not know that the German model shows the truth of the Pu hitting the west coast then today they told us that 1000 tons of waste instead of 300 or 400 is actually being released daily. The world is being misled by words that are hypnotism to them, the melodic and verbology being used is hypnotism through propaganda.

    Look long look hard and you will see the redundancies and the mis quotations that have baffled everyone with BS. We and you are always wrong with estimation and assessment we are being used under hypnotist variance to make us null and void no threat to the reality that is going on…

    We are sheeple and not our own anymore if we believe this world of bull shit!!!!!


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  • SadieDog

    I'm going to start referring to Fukushima as 'Fukenstein' , (foo). Things about the comparisons to Frankenstein ; both created by mad scientists, both soon became uncontrolable by their masters, both were misunderstood by the public, and both were brought to life in a storm.


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  • SteveMT

    The words "precisely, carefully, and TEPCO" should not be used in the sentence.


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  • jec jec

    If you are a Swiss citizen I think it may be possible to file a lawsuit against Japan for pollution. See this:
    http://www.internationalbusinesslawadvisor.com/2011/08/articles/international-litigation/how-to-file-a-lawsuit-against-a-foreign-government-the-swiss-perspective/

    Note USA citizen could not do so, from this article. SO..if you are interested and have a legal background..


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    • HoTaters HoTaters

      What the hey? Why not file a lawsuit against U.S. firms or the U.S., too, while you're at it? WHO turned off the air monitors which were supposed to test what was in the plume, back in 2011? Private contractors, you say? Employed by whom?


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  • pleasure island

    TEPCO, Sunday night, outraged, anyone else been bored and thought of acronyms for TEPCO.

    Terrible Excuses Pathetic Cover-ups On-going

    or Total Extermination of Pacific C**ting Ocean,

    Cannot trust a word they say, reading anything of theirs is pointless. Sadly we need their readings, the real ones that is.


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  • Speedy

    I've got a stupid idea…I know the technology is available to make electricity directly from heat because sitting on my woodstove is a fan doing exactly that…it has no external power connections but an electric motor spinning a 3 blade fan…on a much larger scale could something positive come from all the underground heat? At the least enough power to support the cooling and pumping, maybe enough to freeze a wall…


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  • Grampybone Grampybone

    This situation has proved that improvement is a joke. A laugh, a silly idea that 3 molten cores can go missing and nothing will happen. An insanity that propagates the lie that multiple megatons of nuclear material can be spread about as if it was not even there. No consequences if the information can be selected for redacted release. Lie upon lie can't cover 3 molten cores with all the sea's water and all of humpty dumpty's merry Yakuza.


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  • razzz razzz

    Strontium-90 the 'bone seeker' acts like calcium and a body can't tell the difference. Usually contained inside the fuel rods but is running free at Daiichi.

    They have a gross beta count, what about alpha, gamma and neutron counts? Should I even ask?

    They have one incomplete wall constructed underground, what about the other 3 sides to complete an enclosure? Does groundwater pool behind one wall and stay put? Does the ocean tides know not to go around the ends of the wall and not mix with the radioactive waters?
    Rhetorical.

    "…The biological half life of strontium-90 in humans has variously been reported as from 14 to 600 days,[4][5] 1000 days,[6] 18 years,[7] 30 years[8] and finally at an upper limit, 49 years.[9] The wide ranging published biological half life figures are explained by the isotope's complex metabolism within the body, but by averaging over all excretion paths the biological half life is about 18 years…"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strontium-90

    You know longer decay rates are an educated guess ex. until someone confirms cesium completely decayed away in 300 years. Chernobyl cesium fallout is not decaying away as fast as they thought it would for some strange yet unknown reason.


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    • Grampybone Grampybone

      Decay can happens when a particles electron collides with a neutron creating a shorter wave emission on any given 3 frequencies(ABG). Alpha particle electrons travel faster and can carry other wave signatures from localized particles. Beta particle emitters are easily bonded and trail behind leaving daughters that feed gamma emitters in their quantum path. Particles can decay or not decay based on the types of emitters surrounding their quantum space. This is why concentration is so sinister. Dilution is just human insanity it seems.


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  • WHEN JAPAN DUMPS RADIOACTIVE POISON INTO THE OCEAN, it may be also poisoning a possible future source of fresh water.

    DAILY MAIL: VAST FRESHWATER RESERVES DISCOVERED UNDER THE OCEAN FLOOR, which could supply future generations.

    - Researchers make discovery on continental shelves off Australia, China, North America and South Africa

    - Discovery comes as UN estimates suggest water use has been growing at more than double the rate of population over the last century

    - The deposits were formed over hundreds of thousands of years in the past, when the sea level was much lower and areas now under the ocean were exposed to rainfall which was absorbed into the underlying water table.

    - When the polar icecaps started melting about 20,000 years ago these coastlines disappeared under water, but their aquifers remain intact – protected by layers of clay and sediment.

    READ MORE – http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2519911/Vast-freshwater-reserves-discovered-ocean-floor-supply-future-generations.html

    ~~~~~~~~~~

    Maybe there is, or there will be, a technique to extract that water without contaminating it, but something tells me that they will bungle that too, in their usual efforts to cut costs….

    ~~~~~~~~~~~

    http://ottersandsciencenews.blogspot.ca/


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  • wetpwcas1 wetpwcas1

    Please join BeauifulGirlByDana on you tube for his live cast each night, RadChick & many more have great imput to help all, the truth is put forth & if some one has things to add they may. This a grass root bunch who cares & puts their hearts into bring out the truth & hoping to find a solution & it will take all because we cant trust those who are over paid to do so!

    This is for real folks, we have only each other & the more minds that join in is better than doing nothing!
    Hope to see ya Monday night, just search you tube now!


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  • razzz razzz

    Arnie G. was responding to a question about allowing the 1,000+ tank farm to evaporate its water off (remove the tanks lids). He said because the water is already so concentrated with radioactive particles that any remaining residues would become unstable without water acting as a shield and what do you do with all the radioactive sediment left behind? I don't think humans could approach it. Then there is offgassing and other things to worry about, mainly disposal.

    Pure water itself can't become radioactive. It holds radioactive and inert elements in suspension. Water also moderates (slows down) neutrons which makes overloaded spent fuel pools so scary if the boron shielding plates go missing or they can't add enough boron to the pool water, the pools can act like a reactor core but with no moderating rods available to insert thus causing heat leading to boiling water or worse.


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  • Alpha1

    Just a statement that can not be anything but untrue: On November 28th, the reading at well 1-16, located in this area near Units 1 and 2, rose to 1.1 million bq/l, and on December 2 the reading was 1.3 million bq/l. [...] no change has been observed in seawater radiation density readings, which TEPCO measures and announces every day [though levels have not decreased, as would be expected if flow was blocked]. [...] there is no increased risk to human health or the environment.

    Radiation of any type kills and there is nothing they can say that will stop them from changing that. Their mass hypnotism can only work if people believe the shit they are spewing like the dead grunion that will not run anymore because of the keystone antics and major fuck ups that the Japanese are to proud to say they have done. The Japanese is now responsible for the worst incident ever in creation, they have succeeded in the destruction and devastation to an entire planet with billions of forms of life about to die. BECAUSE THEY ARE TO PROUD wow what a world we have become.

    We are an undeserving species responsible for our own demise, it is looking like the Mars thing may be a good idea to start terraforming however it may be to late as it is to do so, but a one way trip is looking better than living through the radiation nation…


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    • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

      Pretty sure Japan is what we called a conquered nation and it is currently occupied by the victor…

      You are certainly blaming the wrong people and these events must be our created spoils of war! :(


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      • flatsville

        obewan-Today is Monday. You can call Int'l Atty. Frances Boyle to shut down all NPPs globaly.

        Here's the number again:

        College of Law-Phone (217) 333-0931

        And if Atty. Boyle isn't the one good international attorney you claim can shut down every NNP globaly, ask for a referral.

        Also, ask about that consortium of attorneys working 5 hrs. each. Get some referrals.

        Let us know the answer later today.


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      • Ana Ana

        Obewan is right. Take a look at the book, "The Imperial Cruise", if you want to see who is really running Japan. I am an American and I am ashamed to say it is us who owns and operates Japan and has for over 100 years. We created the war between them and Russia, the Japanese invasion of China, Pearl Harbor (during which my own family including my grandparents, mother and uncle were bombed), and now Fukustein. It did happen in Japan but America owns it.
        Ana in Sacramento


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    • razzz razzz

      I'm sure any misinformation published by TEPCO will now be subjected to Japan's new Secrecy Law. /sarc off


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  • pkjn

    Cs-134/137 detected from 71% of Japan Tobacco Inc. burley tobacco produced in 2013 / 98% of them were shipped for sale
    December 8th, 2013 Fukushima Diary

    Cesium-134/137 were detected from 71% (104 of 146 samples) of burley tobacco produced in 2013, according to Japan Tobacco Inc.
    The samples were collected from Fukushima.
    The highest reading was 185.6 Bq/Kg (Cs-134 : 62.6 Bq/Kg, Cs-137 : 123 Bq/Kg).
    The safety standard of Japan Tobacco Inc. is 100 Bq/Kg (In total of Cs-134 and Cs-137).

    http://fukushima-diary.com/2013/12/cs-134137-detected-from-71-of-jt-burley-tobacco-produced-in-2013-98-of-them-were-shipped-for-sale/


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Gee, that Radiation Contamination ought to kill some unaware smokers and some second hand breathers in a hurry ! :(

    Just think..Hot Particles for everybody.. and the little children will love it too!

    Bobby would/will not be pleased… :(

    Keep a close eye on those chemo stocks!


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  • Heart of the Rose Heart of the Rose

    Groundwater level rising at 800m from the coastal line
    Dec8 2013

    "The groundwater level is also rising in the mountain side of Fukushima plant, according to Tepco. It’s approx. 800m from the coastal line, where a underground reservoir is located.

    From 11/29 to 12/1/2013, all β nuclide density increased from 8,600,000 Bq/m3 to 20,000,000 Bq/m3 in the leakage detector hole water of the reservoir, which made Tepco realize the rising groundwater level. Tepco is attempting to stop the reservoir from floating.

    Because of the underground wall on the coastal line, groundwater level is increasing in various places near the sea. However, Tepco hasn’t officially admitted the groundwater level is also rising even in the mountain side of the plant area widely, and it can be due to the underground wall, which can be the only cause."

    http://fukushima-diary.com/2013/12/groundwater-level-rising-at-800m-from-the-coastal-line/

    Inundation ..it's coming.


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  • moonshellblue moonshellblue

    Chairwoman A. McFarland recommends TEPCO dumps tritium tainted water into Pacific perhaps that is why Lake is suggesting that water has been contained because if higher levels. I can't believe she is recommending the release of contaminated water into the pacific. They must be very concerned about subsidence and the weight of all that water in thousands of tanks plus they are running out of room


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  • Nick

    The problems we face as Fukushima spews it's deadly toxins are technologically impossible to solve.

    The lying to date should prove, once and for all, that this is indeed the case.

    What's been happening globally is a consolidation of wealth, the Tokyo bid for the Olympics is an example.

    The clock is running out.

    Doomsday is sort of creeping up on us all, Japan being the first to really suffer.

    Heard there were a bunch of dead migrating birds in the great lakes. We're being told it's a "natural" die-off. Yeah right.

    When you see loved ones die un-expectedly, maybe you'll get a tad bit more educated about the horrors that await us all.

    Pay attention to thyroid anomalies. Lung issues. Heart conditions. Diabetes. Pancreatic cancer. Nose-bleeds. Lethargy. Insomnia. Depression.

    Thanks nuclear. Thanks for the memories of a once livable planet.


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  • Shaker1

    What they're seeing with concentrations increasing is/was predictable/intentional and I personally can't see where this as 'news' that is any more/any less frightening and certainly not enlightening. It's obvioous that attempting to contain the water in any manner or form will lead to such results, unless one is counting on the materials to just give up doing what they do and play dead.

    As for the ice wall, it's a dream with only limited results at best, diversion of water rather than sequestration and again will lead to the results above. When Tepco talked about using Unit 6 as a practice field for some of their strategies it struck me then that if an some kind of ice wall was planned they'd need at least Unit 6 to power whatever ice wall was dreamed. The geology at the site never had me thinking that the purpose of any ice wall would be diversion and a method of gaining time, slowing dilution of the shorter-lived products at best. Again, look at the sheer size of the site. And, personally, I think 1000 gal/day is an underestimate. I did some rough calcs a couple of posts ago of 400 gal/day and the depth of it over an acre, which was ~3.3ft. Think of the site's size, but also the fact that the accident is cubic in nature, one gets an idea of the great surface area which is exposed to water and how little 400 gal/day or even 1000 gal/day seems.


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  • Shaker1

    Yesteday in the post regarding the Canadian estimates I approached the thought that the estimates themselves at this point were frivolous, a waste of effort/money that can be better spent at the site itself. I attributed the thought to a 'bad mood' that had overcome my personal capacity for forgiveness, but, in all honesty, that thought has been with me all along. Those estimates and much of the scholarly exercises add nothing, truly, to the discussion, and even less to any remediation that is possible. How many workers would the salary of one of these researchers support at the site itself? Knowledge does no one any good without direct application to problem, does it? I compared it to watching a fire, and taking the time to estimate how many buckets of water might be required to put out the fire while it burns. I stand by that assertion. Show me a general in a battle in which he and his forces are surrounded and he's busy protecting his prerogative, and I'll show you a dead general.

    I once was running a large project in which time was short. I needed help and asked. A bit later, up walks a salesman in training who informs me he's the 'help' and asks what he could do. I had a hammer in my hand at the time, so I gave it to him and said 'hold this' and walked away. I returned a bit later feeling guilty, intending to apologize and really put him to work. There he was, though, still holding the hammer, yet full of suggestions. I didn't feel guilty then in thinking…


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  • rakingmuck

    Forgot to add that Dani 4 has been averaging between 800-900 for 3 years with no change. Only one with no change.


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  • Shaker1

    Yes, Joy B, sorry. In my previous comment I meant to say tons/day rather than gallons/day. The point in my statement was that 400 or even 1000 tons a day was unrealistic. With acres to the site, the unpredictability of tidal flow, the only numbers at which one might be truly sure are of the water they intentionally put there and those that they intentionally pull out and measure. With the limitations, intentional or otherwise, of equipment, the choices of where to deploy that measuring (volume and radioactivity) equipment, it's my idea that the estimates can be exponentially wrong. That 'wrong' may be in both directions from whatever baseline one chooses, but I'm inclined to believe the estimates generously biased to being too little, and what actually enter the ocean in a contaminated state is much more than even the 1000 ton/day estimate.


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  • Shaker1

    I agree, and wish we were more informed concerning Daini, rakingmuck.


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  • Same old, same old, admit 1%, cover up 99%.


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  • obewanspeaks obewanspeaks

    Same old, 1% stand up straight, and the other 99% bend over and wait for that special delivery… :(


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    • what a zinger… just right for a ringer.

      May the bells toll for the Japanese, because right now, that is about all they have to look forward to, the way they are doing this…

      They think decontaminating a farm's soil and then being able to grow rice with 'only' 50 Bq/kg is a GOOD thing. They celebrate that.

      So sad… so desperate.


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      • KiloCharley KiloCharley

        Dr. G.
        I appreciate your work. May I add, they grow food that is too contaminated for Japanese people's consumption, but they can export it to countries like….USA, or Korea, or China…? (BTW it is not Japan that has set these standards, it is your government).


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